Prophet 10 Rev4 Vs Prophet Rev2
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- čas přidán 13. 11. 2020
- Inspired by Starsky Carr I bring a sonic comparison of my two favorite synths that share many qualities. I intend on making a sound library called "Two/Twin Prophets" that share near identical qualities.
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Great look at these!
Thank you ! I’m a fan of your channel it’s great seeing you comment here !
If there was a point to this video it was to show how similar these two synths can sound in certain aspects. You can tell they are related...What I failed to mention and demonstrate is just how different they can sound as well. I am going to make a follow up video to this to show how they compliment each other. They are both “essential workers” in my beat factory.
Thanks ! :)
Nice! Am wondering how close my Prophet 08 will compare, probably pretty similar to your Rev 2 I'd imagine. But since I very resently added the 08, I'll need some more time with both. Excellent demo, hope you make a vid getting these into areas each would not be able to go, looking forward to it!
Yes we need this 2nde video 👍
Thanks for the solid content, man!
Excellent Justin...I was waiting for this to appear.... really enjoyed it..
I wrote in some forums that I prefer the Rev2 over the Prophet 5/10. Everybody said I'm insane, that the 5/10 is so much better. And I get their point, when you hear single sounds, not in a musical context, but by themselves alone, and you hold notes for a long time, yes, I can hear the lushier sound of the 5/10, compared to the more direct, in-your-face sound of the Rev2... but when i listen to music played, man, the Rev2 is such a musical synth... it has expression! It's lead sounds vibrate, they resonate, I don't know how to describe in words but they sound alive, as if it was a physical instrument with phisical properties. The lead sounds in the 5/10, they don't have that inner movement... that secret sauce, whatever that is... they sound like great polyphonic patches played one note at a time, flat if you want... the Rev2 leads sound as if they were real standalone instruments, with expression and soul that cuts through.
One may say "but the 5/10 makes lush pad sounds that feel like velvet, something that the Rev2 can't". I concede that...but they're pad sounds...in a musical piece, a pad sound might have it's 15 seconds of glory, but then it's background task that it has to cover, and frankly, there's tons of cheaper synths out there that can make great background sounds that work 99% as well as the Prophet 5/10 pad sounds in a background... while lead sounds, they are up front... if a lead sound fails, the whole piece fails. Lead sounds need to have personality, they need to have playability, and they need to cut through dense mixes... and in my humble opinion, the Rev2 does these things better than the 5/10.
But hey, I'm nobody, and there are only my 2 cents.
I value your two cents and yeah, the rev 2 basically has its own place alongside the P10. There is overlap but in the areas they differ I can’t ever say what’s better or worse . I can say hands down I think the rev 2 is the best value and regardless of price totally unique and vital .
@@JustinCarey listen to these lead sounds: czcams.com/video/58yog7dDJHU/video.html I never heard lead sounds so vivid and brilliant from the classic Prophet. The Rev2 leads cut through almost as much as Minimoog's leads.
I agree
Awesome comparison. Now I'm even happier with my Rev 2. I tried the P5 and the P6, they sounded lovely, but they're both pretty limited and ancient. I wanted loads of polyphony and loads of modulation posibilities. Rev2 can also sound very 80's, cold and dystopian which I really dig.
Well put !
REV 2 can sound very warm and VCO-ish, if you know how to program it.
Rev 2 has a bit more buzz and bite, just a bit more modern! Getting myself a rev 2 and ob 6 , very excited for the combination
Feels like doubling up a bit, to me ? (moreso than pairing a Rev2 with a P6/5/10, I mean) … I think the Rev 2 can get the ol’ VCO OB sound, easier than the ol’ VCO Prophet sound, in my experience … 🤷🏻♂️
The prophet 08/rev2 is a functional beast with solid analog tone, despite having clearly DCO sound.
The Prophet 5/10 is not trying to be everything for everyone- it’s its own thing. Far more limited, but it has magic that I haven’t heard in any other DSI synth (I’ve owned or played almost all of them). I’ve owned the P10 for a few days now- literally everything it does sounds amazing; you don’t need to bring anything out of it, it’s already there. 40+ years and they got it right the first time.
I could not agree more !
rev2's not dco it's dcao which is different again. DCO's effectively use samples, the rev2 is pure analogue oscillators but with digital control so they don't need a $1500 tune up every few years like some old synths needed.
I got a Pro 3 and gonna use it to dictate to the Rev2 16
Yep I agree. I just got the P5 two days ago and I've just finally managed to overcome the tuning issues via the 2.0.1 firmware update it.
I used to own a rev 2 8 voices and it was great, but the P5 has got a deep, velvety texture that I haven't heard anywhere else. The stuff that dreams are made of...
Wow thank you for doing this comparison. I wanted to see how closely the rev2 can sound like prophet 5/10 and this pretty much clarifies it for me. Probably going to buy a rev2 soon.
I love the Rev2
thanks for this comparison.
Rev 2 = so under-rated!
Well your video I like it its great 👍 cool song
I love your love bro. thank you!
Wow! I have a Rev 2 16 voice keys, for me personally, I am pleased that came out before this one!
Rev 2 is sweet, for sure. Prophet 10 sounds more pleasing to my ear but sometimes buzzy and angry is just what the doctor ordered. It’s great to have so many options.
I agree
REV 2 can do both.
Valued comparison as I choose Rev2 16-voice or enjoy neither. Feeling very comfortable now with Rev 2 ! Many thanks !
Rev2 is so strong!!! 🔥 love it. Pro 10 is amazing to, but with all the built in effects and sequencer gotta get rev2! And thanks for an excellently awesome review.
Dig it ! I’ve been saying it forever the Rev2 is the best all around poly synth... and definitely the best value
wow! didn’t see that coming :)
Wow, I have the same exact two synths set up the same way as you do, on a 2 tier stand with the REV2 16 voice on the top tier and the Prophet 10 Rev 4 on the bottom tier. They are indeed both excellent synths that are nice compliments to each other. I bought both of them the same year and had them for 2 years now.
Wait a minute, this video was made 2 years ago going on 3 (as of the typing of this comment) in Nov. 2020, which was actually a few months before I bought either of my synths. What a strange coincidence!!!!
So you were an early adopter of the Prophet 10, I see. Cool!!!
I haven’t tried the rev2, and it looks like it def wins for value with all that versatility, but I agree, there’s something hard to put my finger on about the rev4 10 when I play it, the way it responds really resonates with me and evokes a feeling every time. I don’t get that much with other synths I’ve owned. Perhaps it has a lot to do with the velocity / after touch keyboard, as it’s the nicest I’ve played and feels much more like an instrument. Thanks for posting, and I look forward to all your future rev4 p10 videos! PS: post those patches for sale, they’re brilliant!
Thank you and I will have something up in the not too distant future!
10 sounds warmer in line with the 6. 8 rev2 sounds brighter.
qualcuno mi spieghi per quale folle ragione, sul prophet 10 è stata fatta l'uscita audio mono. Il synth suona piatto come un morto, pur essendo un grande strumento. Dave Smith ha picchiato la testa contro un ferro da stiro?
I'm a big fan of the P'08 and I bought the REV2 as well, I had a Prophet 5 desktop, but send it back after a few day's, because I was making P'08 sounds on it. I have most Dave Smith Sequential Pro and Prophet synths, but the P'5 REV4 is not for me. Oh yeah, I also didn't like the Filter of the P'5, it sounds amazing, but it works different then I like to use it and I also like to have more control of the Keyboard amount.
Cool video
I think you did a great job on the video, and thank you for making it. Your playing is great and your sound design is awesome. But, for me personally I would get a much deeper understanding of the core tone of these synths from listening to them in the context of a track. For example, a simple 30 second track with Lead Bass and Pad using the P10 and then the same track but produced using the 08Rev2 would do more to bring their personality to light I think.
whats the best polyphonic synth to get with some great sub bass action. i like the buzziness in the rev 2. i like synthwave and those round bass sounds. im into italo disco and trap melodic music/rap. im looking for like 6 voices i guess...probablyy more voices though
Hmmmm I have no clear answer. It depends on you , I will say the Rev2 Sub oscillator is decent.
Are the knobs on the Rev 2 mounted to the chassis or are they like the P6 and OB-6 ?
Thank you for taking the time to make this video, it's very informative. One question I have is if you notice a difference between the physical key's themselves. Are they the same? Or does one key have a different feel/attack?
Good question, the keys are the same with slightly different feel. Both feel/play great .
Really would love the Prophet 10 as a successor to my Rev 2 but until I can afford it I'm happy with my Rev. Thank you very much for the comparison!
the Rev2 can hold its own, you crushed it in your “Jerusalem” cover!
Is the Rev-2 really better then the Prophet-10? In where lies the price difference if I may? Been interested in the Rev-2 for a while, but the Prophet territory is still kind of unknown to me. I have the Deepmind already, but i would love to have a 2nd poly next to it with a different workflow and sound. Can you advise me?
I think the rev 2 is the best value and most versatile , however the 10 has that vintage sound. It’s all very subjective . I recommend demoing them if possible
pro 10 has snappy env , but rev 2 sounds much better than I thought, I might get one :D
This guy gives me hope for America.
That made me laught heartily thank you !
Great review Justin , may i ask you if ya had a chance to test the Take 5 versus the Rev2 , this is my actual dilemna ;)
I have not played the Take 5 yet.
Hey great video thank you , i was also wondering what you think is better to go for rev 2 or prophet 08 as a first synth? Thanks in advance
Rev 2 all the way.
Holy hell that 10 has like sprinkles of magic in the tone some electro pizazz in the oscillators, but its like 3 times the price. Dang man that prophet 10 sounds just a couple legit ounces better, what a dilemma I have.
Get a P6. It's cheaper and gets you like 99% of the P5. I have both the P6 and the rev 2, and they are an excellent team. They sound so good together :)
reminds me of dual keyboarding on my hamonds
I'd like the hear multiple oscillators going with 75% open filter, longer ADSR which allows for harmonic intermingling, as well as polymod set to modulate the pulse wave - on both - rather than pecking back and forth. Almost every one of my synths has an identical sound sawtooth wave. It takes some movement to get the differences to come out. Thanks for taking the time.
I’ll keep that in mind for my follow up video, I intentionally made them sound similar. You are 100% correct the longer envelopes reveal the difference in sound.
They put the engine of a rev2 and put it in a new case !!!! why they dont take the original curtis ship of the prophet 5 and recreate the original analog synth, may be too complicate in 2020 ?
Not exactly, I have opened them both up and there is a different circuit and chipset in each. What they have in common is SMD technology. I made this video and the sounds to show how they can sound similar, they can also sound completely different inherently. Classic prophet 5’s can never be duplicated 100 % but I’m happy for a reliable 90% vintage P5’s are like aged wine !
Did your Prophet 10 have the 'caps' fix?
Yes indeed
@@JustinCarey Ah, okay, thanks for your reply!
What’s the caps fix ? Needed on a new P10 Rev 4 ?!
I like the rev 2 better--like to hear it in a mix
I really want to hear rev2 vs poly evolver
REV 2, for sure. Unless you want to sound like a busy carnival.
I think the REV2 is great! Kinda crazy to think you can have 16 voices! But there is something about the vibe of the P5/10 REV4 which I think can't be replicated... even just looking and experiencing playing it is a whole other level of enjoyment.
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P10 is FAT. It's still got the lean and mean prophet thing going, but it's like...damn. Just a bit beefier than the rev2. Good point with Rev2 value, though! Best synth in it's price range, especially for live performance
I hav a REV2, that’s beautiful but TBH I hear a more musical and organic tone in the Prophet10 in every single test you make. It’s subtle but REV2 sounds always a bit more artificial. And that’s a shame because I don’t think I can afford a P10 in this moment (anyway I have also P6 desktop and P12 desktop, so better to be happy...). Greetings
In some ways I agree ! However I thought once I had the P10 that I’d be letting go of the Rev2 and realized I cannot. Inherently yes the P10 has a sweeter richer oscillator tone the But cannot have the same type of modulation control and animation as the rev 2 , there are different sounds that only the Rev2 can make and after spending hours making sounds I still love it as much as the P10. I dig the combo you have and have secretly lusted for the P12 lol.
@@JustinCarey thanks for the answer man. The combo is undoubtedly sweet (and I love how P12 sounds, though many people despise it. I see REV2 is a very deep synthesizer and if one has the time to tweak it the right way, as you do, it can surely give satisfaction. Thank you for your good work 🙋🏻♂️
Sorry... I replied from one of my bands’ account. Ciao!
No comparison for me, the P5 is the synth to go.
All same machines in different boxes 😂
It’s a father like son scenario lol, the prophet Rev2 did not fall far from the tree.
i think so , i prefere my Prophet 5 original, more pleasure to play on it than a clone.
@@analogsynthmuseum784 that must be amazing to play !