Not alot of videos or information on the valves , mine would only go left . I tested everything electrical , no difference , finally watched your video and cleaned out the valve assembly and found one valve was stuck ever so slightly. cleaned them all out and its working properly finally . thanks again for explaining things everyone else seems to forget !
I just wanna say w/ a good video save me a big trouble my plow was gone up and down super slow and after I watch his video it works like a brand new thank you so much brother...
The western plow pump repair video Fix turning and up Down was Excellent!!! My neighbor has a problem with his up and left to right I noticed he had someone change the motor to a new style puting the ground cable on the side of the motor instead of motor housing. I like what you did grounding the solenoids seperatly makes sence for a good ground like the old way they were. Im a retired mechanic still working on old junk. Why dident western plow co make a video like you did ??! Thank you David
What a great video. Reluctantly I did not want to go through all the steps,after tearing our plow apart the problem was just as you described. Thanks for posting this video.
I cannot thank you enough for your video my blade would not go down pulled out the valve and found out it was stuck, freed it up and Voila it drops faster than a prom dress. Let it snow!!!!
Just wanted to let you know that thanks to you're video I knew what valves to take out and clean, actually found a chunk of something in one of them and now it is back up and running. TY.
What, you slackin on us? Yours are the best snow plow vids I’ve seen, even though dated. This one on the Western is good stuff. I run a Western 8 ft Pro on an ‘07 Dodge 1500. Nothing commercial. Just my place up in the North Eastern mountains of Utah. Great stuff. Thanks for your vids Shawn.
You did a good job of explaining what all the valves do. Mine stopped angling today for an unknown reason, not sure if a valve is stuck or the safety relief valve went bad but it will angle if I push up against something so I'm assuming the relief valve might be ok. The solenoids seem to have good magnetism and connections are good so I'm assuming a valve may be stuck and thanks to you're video I now know which ones to check. TY.
Great Video you really show everything finally a guy who knows how to show you what to do you got your shit together lol Thanks just a great great video
S1 valve is lower only S2 right turn S3 left turn(w S2) and lift. What is not mentioned is, anything that has to return, has to run through S2, and S3. Your plow lowering has to push oil through S1,S2,and S3. Right turn and left turn push return fluid through S2 and S3. Raising the the plow, pushes oil through S3, S2 , and S1. S1 holds the plow up until lowered.
Having issues getting plowed going up and down have to get out and take a cable and hook to the battery and touch the motor and it will raise it up but other than that any ideas
Great video! But here lies my problem. I pulled the "safety valve" out clean it but when I did this (left the hydraulic control unit attached did not pull it off the pump housing) so vertical. I cleaned 'the port out and a small piece like a small gear came out. No ball bearing or spring came out. What should I do now.
i've a bunch of western plows and they do happen at times freeze, so i just disconnect one hydraulic line and apply power to blow it out, and then proceed to the next line, usually works
Great video. Did you flush the hydraulic lines and cylinders because everything cycles through the pump. If you don't flush them as well, you will go back to square one. Fluid and hoses are cheap compared to a breakdown when you are out there doin your thing.
Try a different controller in your truck or your controller in someone else's truck...the mvp controller won't turn on unless the plow is hooked up to the truck..
this was a godsend video for me today thanks a ton , question i have the same plow this morning i picked up plow while backing up the bottom low corner of the plow got snagged on a cable jerking the blade later i lowered the plow when i went to pick it back up it would pick up or turn motor ok , im thinking back pressure on cylinder getting pulled blew a seal ? thanks
Amazing video my Fisher is the same style basically and I just replaced pump and motar and k now it's looking like the bottome valve. I cant push it in and out at all like you should not even to clean it
Im glad the video helped. I searched CZcams videos for hours on how to fix mine..no luck!! I decided to just figure out how to repair and make a video to save others the aggravation!! Take care and good luck with your plow!
@@HackNpackShop I'm still down and going to see a guy tommrow thays a guru I guess we got 24 inches and snow blowed 15 out of my 40 contracts hired a guy to do some and still have some waiting I've called 20 other guys in town and all broke down and haveing issues aswell. This storm killed me and I lost half my clients becouse of this.. I just got it serviced to at the local Fisher dealer and was told good to go but shot happens of course but this is killing me
Awesome western plow video. I've got and older unimount worked great last snow fall . Next day I raise the plow all good . Did one property dropped the plow then it wouldn't raise. Moved it left to right a few times. Then it would raise . Now it just drops on it's own and try's to raise . If I leave it for a bit it will raise. I pulled the motor off everything spot less inside . Any suggestions.
Hi. I have one western plow. But it not have any information about it. It is the same what you have. Please if you have any info about the plow pump let me know. Thank you..
Ok, are there 2 pressure relief valves??? Im having the same issue as you. Cleaned everything you showed, replaced filter, replaced fluid, new pump motor, new ram and seals, and it worked perfect for about an hour of plowing then started lifting very slowly and turning side to side very slowly while straining pump motor. I started ordering new parts to completely rebuild the pump and manifold. On plow parts direct website they sell 2 pressure relief valves as a kit! So is there two? You only show and talk about one. Thanks!
Too much work. How about... put a fresh hydrauliic filter on each November and come springtime do a complete fluid changeout before laying up? Yeah, you still gotta take it apart every few years and replace o-rings or seals, but if you keep the system closed it should be ready for you when you need it. That pickup screen might be okay in protecting the pump, but maybe add a good filter/housing to your setup to protect your valves and devices in the block. Speed problems on hydraulics are almost always volume problems [not pressure] - the regulator has caught some kind of system trash or a hose is failing on the inside/partially blocking flow.
Great video. I have the cable style (Western Isarmatic Mark IIIa) and I was just testing things moments ago and my plow will not move to the left. Would you happen to know which valve operates the left motion? I had the wife push the joystick to the left and I pulled on the left side of the plow hoping to break it loose. No go. I'm scratching my head and I'm stuck like my plow! LOL!
UPDATE: I just went back outside to look at the pump and because its cable driven it looks completely different than your video. I may just drain it, take it off the Jeep and take it to a plow shop. I know a garage my dad took it to Jerry rigged a missing part and I would like to sure the plow is in tip top shape. The farmer's almanac predicted a terrible winter this year and I don't want to be stuck without a plow.
I have the same setup, could you make a video of the solenoid wiring harness, where everything hooks up and what controls what? Thank you would be gladly appreciated!
My plow works for an hour when I put it on the truck but then it does this thing like it sounds like the pump motor is running I can turn it left right with no problem but then it shuts off I press the up bottom on the stick and all it does is click but i let it sit for maybe 15mintes it works again but then it stars all over. Any ideas ?
If I remember right, counterclockwise to increase drop speed...nothing you can to to make it turn faster as far as I know..just have to make sure filter clean
I have a slight leak where the solenoid block meets the pump housing. Would you say it’s probably just the O-rings or should I attempt to tighten? I just noticed it, haven’t tried anything yet. It’s the same Unimount set up and motor etc.
Okay thanks for the quick response. I bought the plow recently and just got it mounted yesterday. Runs great otherwise. Going to change the hydraulic fluid/gasket etc this next week on it and get it cleaned up inside. I’ll probably go ahead at that point and change the o-rings too.
@@zugzug1107 appreciate it. I thought that was the one, but the guy I bought my plow from said the drain bolt is leaking, so it confused me. Long story short, it's not leaking there. Thanks for the info!
That would be called a quill. Most have them on their valve block. Its a valve block , not "the solenoid holder" LOL..... the drop speed is important. If you're running a commercial grade heavy Mall bored , you don't like that falling as hard as they have theirs falling. You will crack and break concrete. 31 years doing this , I have done it and learned a valuable lesson.!!
The relief is what he was talking about but could not give the correct valve name. What that does is protect your lines and equipment from excessive force if it is in straight blade, and you grab a very heavy heavy snow on the right side, if it is too much the relief valve will let loose instead of your RAM or bending Mall board or frame. hope that helps and it does have absolutely nothing to do with drop speed... Drop speed and hydraulic flow are always on quill adjustment nuts
I have a western plow won't go up or down or side ways change the 3 cartridge and solenoid now everything work except it wont go down anybody out there
Not alot of videos or information on the valves , mine would only go left . I tested everything electrical , no difference , finally watched your video and cleaned out the valve assembly and found one valve was stuck ever so slightly. cleaned them all out and its working properly finally . thanks again for explaining things everyone else seems to forget !
I just wanna say w/ a good video save me a big trouble my plow was gone up and down super slow and after I watch his video it works like a brand new thank you so much brother...
best video on the internet! coming from an engineer, thank you very much. 🎯
Thank you!
The western plow pump repair video Fix turning and up Down was Excellent!!! My neighbor has a problem with his up and left to right I noticed he had someone change the motor to a new style puting the ground cable on the side of the motor instead of motor housing. I like what you did grounding the solenoids seperatly makes sence for a good ground like the old way they were. Im a retired mechanic still working on old junk. Why dident western plow co make a video like you did ??! Thank you David
What a great video. Reluctantly I did not want to go through all the steps,after tearing our plow apart the problem was just as you described. Thanks for posting this video.
Thank you for making this! I'm in Northern Michigan and have a old plow that I have to keep going because, of my 550 foot driveway!
Nice job. The break down of the valve distribution box was exactly the info I was looking for. Thanks!
You're welcome
Thanks for the information, I have this problem just right now!😢
Great video, got me going after a break down. Miss the plowing videos
thanks for explaining the hydraulic block
I cannot thank you enough for your video my blade would not go down pulled out the valve and found out it was stuck, freed it up and Voila it drops faster than a prom dress. Let it snow!!!!
I'm glad my video helped you!
Snow storm coming in a couple hours here thank you for the video I appreciate you taking the time to help us fix our own
No problem..always happy to help!!
thank you for making this video, it's been a huge help for me.
You're welcome
Just wanted to let you know that thanks to you're video I knew what valves to take out and clean, actually found a chunk of something in one of them and now it is back up and running. TY.
excellent info. I'm going heavy duty winch with the plow stationary angled .Just up and down when I back up. just use it for my own driveway,
This was extremely helpful. Thank you brother!
You're welcome
What, you slackin on us? Yours are the best snow plow vids I’ve seen, even though dated. This one on the Western is good stuff. I run a Western 8 ft Pro on an ‘07 Dodge 1500. Nothing commercial. Just my place up in the North Eastern mountains of Utah. Great stuff. Thanks for your vids Shawn.
Thank you. This is the only video we could find explaining where the wires go and how to reassemble and clean the valves.
Good detailed video
Thanks much
Nice video - I too love to jam White Zombie while I work
Thank you! I've been searching for this Info and you did great
Always happy to help!
You did a good job of explaining what all the valves do. Mine stopped angling today for an unknown reason, not sure if a valve is stuck or the safety relief valve went bad but it will angle if I push up against something so I'm assuming the relief valve might be ok. The solenoids seem to have good magnetism and connections are good so I'm assuming a valve may be stuck and thanks to you're video I now know which ones to check. TY.
Thanks!!!!!
Very helpful, it helped me to diagnose, tear down, rebuild, and fine tune.
“Hope you have a goodie - goodie” ! Glad you’re back Hack. You had the (Comments) turned off in the live stream
Thank you so much for going in depth on this 👍
You're welcome
Great Video you really show everything finally a guy who knows how to show you what to do you got your shit together lol Thanks just a great great video
Hey thanks a bunch mine wasn't turning and was lil. bit apprehensive tearing into the solenoid part... great job.. thank you
You're welcome...the plow is still working great after the repair!
Learned a lot from this video.
Glad to see you doing some vids once again Pisser. Missed ya! Want to see some more commonsense body repairs and blending.
Great Video!!
Thank you
He’s back!!
Great video it helped me out just in time I was having the same problems thank you very much keep up the good work
I appreciate the video had a issues with angle left right and after I took valves off clean it and works great
Thanks
Thank you! I've been searching for this Info
Great video
S1 valve is lower only
S2 right turn
S3 left turn(w S2) and lift.
What is not mentioned is, anything that has to return, has to run through S2, and S3. Your plow lowering has to push oil through S1,S2,and S3. Right turn and left turn push return fluid through S2 and S3. Raising the the plow, pushes oil through S3, S2 , and S1. S1 holds the plow up until lowered.
Very helpful thanks for explaining everything
Thanks, middle of winter ,no garage and pump failure, fortunaly it;s in my parking area.
U are the goat bro
Good video now I know what to look forward to. Mine is going up and down great but rams are locking up going left to right. .
Having issues getting plowed going up and down have to get out and take a cable and hook to the battery and touch the motor and it will raise it up but other than that any ideas
Thanks for the Vid 👍
NICE JOB MAN !!! GOOD VIDEO THANKS 👍👍
You're welcome!
Great video do you no were I can get parts
Liked the video thanks
Very good video. I have a v blade and this will still be an excellent guide for tearing the hydraulic unit apart
Great video! But here lies my problem. I pulled the "safety valve" out clean it but when I did this (left the hydraulic control unit attached did not pull it off the pump housing) so vertical. I cleaned 'the port out and a small piece like a small gear came out. No ball bearing or spring came out. What should I do now.
Great to see ya welcome back man!!!
Thank you
great video! how does the poppet check valves get replaced?
Great video but I wished you had tested the current to the solenoids. Thinking that is my plow issue. Thanks.
i've a bunch of western plows and they do happen at times freeze, so i just disconnect one hydraulic line and apply power to blow it out, and then proceed to the next line, usually works
Thanks for posting...
are you going to make some plowing videos this winter?
Nice to see you Sean......
Miss your vids mate. If you don't get to tube another before Christmas, make sure you have a Goody Goody.
Great video. Did you flush the hydraulic lines and cylinders because everything cycles through the pump. If you don't flush them as well, you will go back to square one. Fluid and hoses are cheap compared to a breakdown when you are out there doin your thing.
Knowledge is key in life! I have a Western V Plow MVP that I can’t get to work. Does anyone know if there’s a way to test the controller?
Try a different controller in your truck or your controller in someone else's truck...the mvp controller won't turn on unless the plow is hooked up to the truck..
Thanks, good video!
would you happen to know what is the cure/ fix
for lights dimming when i am operating it, I have 2 batteries and the larger alternator, still doing it
this was a godsend video for me today thanks a ton , question i have the same plow this morning i picked up plow while backing up the bottom low corner of the plow got snagged on a cable jerking the blade later i lowered the plow when i went to pick it back up it would pick up or turn motor ok , im thinking back pressure on cylinder getting pulled blew a seal ? thanks
Amazing video my Fisher is the same style basically and I just replaced pump and motar and k now it's looking like the bottome valve. I cant push it in and out at all like you should not even to clean it
Im glad the video helped. I searched CZcams videos for hours on how to fix mine..no luck!! I decided to just figure out how to repair and make a video to save others the aggravation!! Take care and good luck with your plow!
@@HackNpackShop I'm still down and going to see a guy tommrow thays a guru I guess we got 24 inches and snow blowed 15 out of my 40 contracts hired a guy to do some and still have some waiting I've called 20 other guys in town and all broke down and haveing issues aswell. This storm killed me and I lost half my clients becouse of this.. I just got it serviced to at the local Fisher dealer and was told good to go but shot happens of course but this is killing me
Nice to have you back pisser!
The pump bolts are 5/8 not 16mm
Give us some bodywork videos? How’s the rusty wrangler holding up??
Awesome western plow video. I've got and older unimount worked great last snow fall . Next day I raise the plow all good . Did one property dropped the plow then it wouldn't raise. Moved it left to right a few times. Then it would raise . Now it just drops on it's own and try's to raise . If I leave it for a bit it will raise. I pulled the motor off everything spot less inside . Any suggestions.
Great video! Any idea on the pump Continuously pumps when to powers harness is connected.
Check solenoid and controller.
Hi. I have one western plow. But it not have any information about it. It is the same what you have. Please if you have any info about the plow pump let me know. Thank you..
Love your videos buddy i been a fan since the start. I wish you was close so you could paint and do the body work on my grand caravan
I bought this plow but I would really like to rebuild it first, is the Western website good for kits?
good video thanks for info still cant find parts does anyone have a good website for parts
Aahh...finally back. Where the hell have you been?!
Ok, are there 2 pressure relief valves??? Im having the same issue as you. Cleaned everything you showed, replaced filter, replaced fluid, new pump motor, new ram and seals, and it worked perfect for about an hour of plowing then started lifting very slowly and turning side to side very slowly while straining pump motor.
I started ordering new parts to completely rebuild the pump and manifold. On plow parts direct website they sell 2 pressure relief valves as a kit! So is there two? You only show and talk about one.
Thanks!
Too much work. How about... put a fresh hydrauliic filter on each November and come springtime do a complete fluid changeout before laying up? Yeah, you still gotta take it apart every few years and replace o-rings or seals, but if you keep the system closed it should be ready for you when you need it. That pickup screen might be okay in protecting the pump, but maybe add a good filter/housing to your setup to protect your valves and devices in the block. Speed problems on hydraulics are almost always volume problems [not pressure] - the regulator has caught some kind of system trash or a hose is failing on the inside/partially blocking flow.
Was your plow attempting to turn but not actually moving more than an inch? I have a very similar pump and pretty stuck on how to fix it...
Great video. I have the cable style (Western Isarmatic Mark IIIa) and I was just testing things moments ago and my plow will not move to the left. Would you happen to know which valve operates the left motion? I had the wife push the joystick to the left and I pulled on the left side of the plow hoping to break it loose. No go. I'm scratching my head and I'm stuck like my plow! LOL!
UPDATE: I just went back outside to look at the pump and because its cable driven it looks completely different than your video. I may just drain it, take it off the Jeep and take it to a plow shop. I know a garage my dad took it to Jerry rigged a missing part and I would like to sure the plow is in tip top shape. The farmer's almanac predicted a terrible winter this year and I don't want to be stuck without a plow.
I have the same setup, could you make a video of the solenoid wiring harness, where everything hooks up and what controls what? Thank you would be gladly appreciated!
I'm currently working on my plow pump and noticed a couple of solenoids have some corrosion on them, I'm curious what you used to clean yours up.
Thanks. My unit is leaking fluid. Any suggestions?
how did you turn on the lights to make the change
Doesnt wesrern have a ajustment vavle for the speed of the pump on the top right? Seen another youtuber ajust it when his got slow
My plow works for an hour when I put it on the truck but then it does this thing like it sounds like the pump motor is running I can turn it left right with no problem but then it shuts off I press the up bottom on the stick and all it does is click but i let it sit for maybe 15mintes it works again but then it stars all over. Any ideas ?
Pisses me off when there are metric and SAE mixed together on something.
This video was very helpful thank HackNpack
when adjusting drop speed, which direction do you turn to increase or decrease drop speed?...also, can you adjust left and right speed likewise?
If I remember right, counterclockwise to increase drop speed...nothing you can to to make it turn faster as far as I know..just have to make sure filter clean
Hose sizes? I have the identical unit. Thank You
Hey Shawn, are you gonna post some new vids?? 👍👍
I've been waiting also,miss the auto body rust repairs and his good humor.
anyway we can get some more plowing videos from you?
Hey my plow keep getting down by its self any tips its goes up down side to sede fine but it keep getting down slowly with out releasing the joystick
Either a bad valve or cylinder. More than likely a stuck valve
I have a slight leak where the solenoid block meets the pump housing. Would you say it’s probably just the O-rings or should I attempt to tighten? I just noticed it, haven’t tried anything yet. It’s the same Unimount set up and motor etc.
I would put new o rings on it...tightening it more may work but also a risk breaking something. All depends on how tight its in
Okay thanks for the quick response.
I bought the plow recently and just got it mounted yesterday. Runs great otherwise. Going to change the hydraulic fluid/gasket etc this next week on it and get it cleaned up inside. I’ll probably go ahead at that point and change the o-rings too.
@@lakesidecabinets517 you're welcome
Rusty wrangler update?
My sweetheart
Any chance you could show me which bolt on the bottom is for the drain.
The drain is a pipe plug on the bottom. You will need an Allen wrench to remove it.
@@zugzug1107 appreciate it. I thought that was the one, but the guy I bought my plow from said the drain bolt is leaking, so it confused me. Long story short, it's not leaking there. Thanks for the info!
If i was you I'd turn that pump motor 180° so the positive isn't next to the ram.
How about the relief valve for lowering?
That would be called a quill. Most have them on their valve block. Its a valve block , not "the solenoid holder" LOL..... the drop speed is important. If you're running a commercial grade heavy Mall bored , you don't like that falling as hard as they have theirs falling. You will crack and break concrete. 31 years doing this , I have done it and learned a valuable lesson.!!
The relief is what he was talking about but could not give the correct valve name.
What that does is protect your lines and equipment from excessive force if it is in straight blade, and you grab a very heavy heavy snow on the right side, if it is too much the relief valve will let loose instead of your RAM or bending Mall board or frame. hope that helps and it does have absolutely nothing to do with drop speed... Drop speed and hydraulic flow are always on quill adjustment nuts
Like when your dad in law got stuck in the woods with his tractor,and pisser to the rescue.Dam that tree detroyed ur truck.
well this channel died a whimpering death
I have a western plow won't go up or down or side ways change the 3 cartridge and solenoid now everything work except it wont go down anybody out there
Flathead screw on pump is your down speed..mess with that..try different controller? Check pins in the plugs..
found two wires cross thanks
@@jessehubbard2513 glad you found it!
It's time you slacker.
Where you been Charles Manson?
You out of prison yet Manson?