Scale Adjacency, Sharps and Flats | Maths and Music | N J Wildberger

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  • čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
  • The almost uniform property of the major scale that we discussed in our last video has an important consequence which is responsible for the current staff notation system of using sharps and flats to create key signatures for the 12 major keys.
    Here we look at this from a mathematical point of view, using 12 tone chromatic scale notation. The circle of fifths or fourths, which is better described as the circle of 7 steps or 5 steps, naturally makes an appearance. And there is an interesting connection with the geometry of the clockface.
    This video anticipates a wider ranging discussion about alternative ways of notating music.
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    Video Contents:
    00:00 Math: three sets from {1 2 3 4 5}
    3:42 Circle of Adjacent Scales
    12 :36 Major Scale
    18:32 Using Traditional Notation
    21:04 Sharps and Flats
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Komentáře • 10

  • @kendebusk2540
    @kendebusk2540 Před rokem

    Absolutely wonderful, Norman! I started on piano over 60 years ago, know all the sharps and flats, but never once did I realize the clock face with the evens being "right" and the odds being "anti-right" so to speak. Please keep up this series, I continue to learn and be amazed at how complicated it is in relation to mathematics!

  • @FergalByrne
    @FergalByrne Před rokem

    Hugely enjoying this, as you also seem to be!

  • @mattbennett277
    @mattbennett277 Před rokem

    Another thing that seems arbitrary from a mathematical perspective is the preference for the Ionian mode. Dorian mode is symmetric and perhaps highlights certain relationships better. For example, the first adjacent scale either raises to a major third (#3) or lowers to a minor sixth (b9 = b(-3)); so there is an inverse relationship with respect to 0 mod 12. Also, it can highlight the relationship between the modes better - Dorian moves to Mixolydian by raising the third (#3) or lowers to Aeolian by lowering the sixth (9b).
    Slide 3 shows the relationship between the raising note and the starting note of the scale - the Dorian version demonstrates a relationship where the notes leading into an augmented triad {x, x + 4, x - 4} are a raising or lowering of the same note. For Ionian, if the starting note is x then the raising/lowering note is x + 2. For Dorian, the raising/lowering note is x. For example, if the starting note of the scale is 2 then the notes leading into 6 & 10 are 4# & b4, respectively. But for Dorian, with starting note 2, the notes leading into 6 & 10 are 2# & b2, respectively.

  • @mrborisak
    @mrborisak Před rokem

    love your work, thank you

  • @Drbob369
    @Drbob369 Před rokem +1

    Very unique stuff you mske

  • @Unidentifying
    @Unidentifying Před rokem

    sir you're a legend

  • @user-bo9ky5vz4n
    @user-bo9ky5vz4n Před 2 měsíci

    I'm still confuzzled, I'm not sure if this has to do with this video, but how do I do 4#8? It was in a mathcounts competition. I don't know how to do sharps, flats, and naturals in math...

  • @daakuredpanda5782
    @daakuredpanda5782 Před rokem

    Respected Professor, I need to talk to you. Cantor's work on infinity is incorrect and I have proof. I heard you retired, how can I send in a mail about this?
    My Name is Ishit Kulshreshtha. I was in the PhD program at CSE Indian Institute of Technology Bombay.

  • @janetcox4873
    @janetcox4873 Před rokem

    The jump from sound to numbers was so sudden -- didn't exist, actually. The numbers represent intervals, I take it. That seems like a cop out. The sounds are frequencies that have been numerified. What frequencies are harmonic and not harmonic would be interesting. Are all the notes on a scale equidistant? Are all sharps and flats equidistant from actual notes? You're fiddling with arbitrary measurements or assigned numbers here.