LOW-End MacBook Air M1/8GB in Music Production (Ableton 11/12 & Logic)

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  • How the slowest "M" MacBook Air (M1, 8GB, 2020) works in music production projects.
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Komentáře • 67

  • @8washburn8
    @8washburn8 Před měsícem +3

    Super helpful video! Theres a ton of misinformation out in forums, but this is a real proof that theese machines still cut the edge. Thank you!

  • @bosonbreeder
    @bosonbreeder Před 2 měsíci +7

    Great video! Setting the number of available cores in Logic to 8 instead of "auto" makes a huge difference as well. Also, freezing a couple of tracks your're not currently editing never hurts.

  • @raw_pc
    @raw_pc Před měsícem +2

    Exactly what I needed right now :) M1 Air is a small beast. Thank you for sharing!

    • @bjornark
      @bjornark  Před měsícem

      You are welcome! Thanks for watching.

  • @samgruse3824
    @samgruse3824 Před 2 měsíci +6

    I've been using a 2013 Macbook pro with 8gbs of ram for the last 10 years for Ableton. It's lasted me soooo long and I've made some good songs with it but now it's showing its age. After watching your videos I just ordered a Macbook pro M2 pro chip with 16gbs of ram. Looks like the M2 chips run Ableton better than M3 which is why I opted for the 1 year old Mac

  • @iamyila
    @iamyila Před 2 měsíci +9

    More than enough, end video

  • @albertorobinson7611
    @albertorobinson7611 Před 3 měsíci +3

    cheers always very helpful

  • @thomasolender3427
    @thomasolender3427 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Could you also try to play along some notes with e.g. Diva via midi while a track is running to see, if there really is no latency?

  • @MadelnMachines
    @MadelnMachines Před 3 měsíci +2

    Thanks for this. Very helpful. I'm sure an M3 Air with 24gb ram and 2TB could handle any electronic music project i'd want to make. It's always tempting to spend more though - for £1000 extra you can more than double the cpu power and get 12gb more ram. Seems worth it. I don't think the 16 core is worth it over the 14 core but if you want more than 36gb ram you don't have a choice. I'm not really sure the pro chip is worth it over the 8 core but the max certainly is.

  • @nukenoly8751
    @nukenoly8751 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Yeah that MacBook Air M1 is a jewel 💎 and best Air ever. The base model can do everything but get 16GB if you can

  • @Jojo37122
    @Jojo37122 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Progressive House ❤❤❤❤

  • @nerdpunk8922
    @nerdpunk8922 Před měsícem +1

    I wish somebody would do one of these tests with this MacBook in Reaper.

  • @JRay517
    @JRay517 Před měsícem +1

    Well heres the thing, i do music too, on a late 2013 that was top end at the time, with 32gb ram. Thing works amazingly well with new plug ins, can have 50 tracks without a sweat. But i should upgrade. Im just poor, so its either a mac mini like this or a souped up windows mini pc (just got a push 2 ) and going to start using ableton and get performance down. Any input?

  • @mizzstarr510
    @mizzstarr510 Před měsícem

    Hi, I have a few questions. I have a regular MacBook Air. Would it still work for me?
    Also, if I have a 2015 Mac air with Monterey OS, it’s still okay to download the newest version of the Pro or would it not work,
    I have a FL-X4 controller, do you think it’ll be compatible to use? I didn’t see it on the Monterey “compatible” list.

  • @Wainster
    @Wainster Před 3 měsíci +2

    Always enjoy these vids... I think my start system would be built around Logic and M1 Mac Mini. Used, but with 16GB & 1TB for some headroom...
    :)
    A used Studio M1 Max also looks wicked in the Logic benchmark scores too, but it still holds a high value which puts it out of reach...

    • @bjornark
      @bjornark  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I think that when Apple release updated Mac Studios with M3 we will see discounts on the older Mac Studios. Then it might get to a reasonable entry price for used/discounted models.

    • @Wainster
      @Wainster Před 3 měsíci

      @@bjornark It will be interesting too, to see how the M3 version of that does once released too. It's all interesting regardless :)

    • @ElectroPanPipes
      @ElectroPanPipes Před 2 měsíci

      Getting an M1 at those specs is difficult and people want prices close to what you'd pay for M2 mini. I bought an M2 Pro, so it came with 16GB. I just use external SSD's for sample libraries. It generally runs 100-150 tracks in Logic no issue.

    • @Wainster
      @Wainster Před 2 měsíci

      @@ElectroPanPipes I've seen several M1 Mini's with 1TB+16GB sell for £750 and under in the UK. £685 including postage. You have to be prepared to look daily and wait. To save 45% off retail price, it's worth it.

    • @ElectroPanPipes
      @ElectroPanPipes Před 2 měsíci

      @@Wainster Like anything, things come up if you wait. I opted for an M2 Pro as the performance and warranty was worth it to me. Storage not so much, as I have 10TB externally already.

  • @Andrea.Zechmeister
    @Andrea.Zechmeister Před 2 měsíci +1

    I had Windows 10 and 16 GB a long time ago
    My first Mac Book Pro since 2013 which still runs with Ableton 11 and 2000 Mb bufferby 47 Sample and sometime 60 samples into project have little bit drop out by headphone is all better
    Mac Book Pro 2015 /2 Core 16Gb ram

  • @Aless6996
    @Aless6996 Před měsícem +1

    I just recieved a macbook pro m1 8gb and I was curious if I could use Logic Pro safely with only 8gb and this video has been very enlightening. I am now ewncouraged to pick up music production again after some years of halting. My only question would be if it handles audio recording with ease, since I want to record some vocals. I would be using an audio interface (UA Volt 2) Many thanks

    • @bjornark
      @bjornark  Před měsícem +1

      Yes, should work just fine.

  • @rmselector
    @rmselector Před 2 měsíci +1

    im using the lowest end macbook air. It works better than the m2 pro base models

  • @richertz
    @richertz Před 2 měsíci +1

    Jumped from M1 air to M2 pro, so much better, more power, more ports, and a much better screen, even though 14 inch the contrast was so much easier in the eyes.

    • @bjornark
      @bjornark  Před 2 měsíci +1

      The 14 Inch is more or less the perfect laptop. You get some more performance cores as well if you get the right one. Good choice.

    • @richertz
      @richertz Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@bjornarkyes I got the 12 core (8 performance cores). It’s definitely the best overall for DAWs.

  • @SERJACINESCOPES
    @SERJACINESCOPES Před 17 dny +1

    Tbh this is more than enough for me..becs I don't produce that heavily..My maximum tracks be like 30/40 maybe..and I use studio one which is probably the lightest among daws..

    • @bjornark
      @bjornark  Před 17 dny

      Yeah, then its good enough for you most likely. :)

  • @igorsim8170
    @igorsim8170 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks for video. What you think of Pro m1 16gb Ram? Thanks.

    • @bjornark
      @bjornark  Před 2 měsíci

      You are welcome! The answer you seek are at timestamp 14:37 in the video... ;)

  • @danielribeiro4618
    @danielribeiro4618 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Im actually searching a new macbook pro 16" to replace my old late 2014 macbook pro laptop. Would you recommend to buy the 16" M3 max over the M2 max (mostly for ableton 11) if the price are +- the same?

    • @bjornark
      @bjornark  Před 2 měsíci +2

      If the price is the same? Then yes, go for the M3.

    • @danielribeiro4618
      @danielribeiro4618 Před 2 měsíci

      @@bjornark yes, for the 14 core... I had the chance to buy a new M1 max 16" but I was afraid about less apple support (-2 years) so decided to go with the M2 pro or M2 max almost same price. And now the M2 max is almost the same price as for the M3 max (14 c).

  • @hasenakkhaya
    @hasenakkhaya Před měsícem +1

    ok great video but i d like to see the cpu temperature values as well. since air models dont have a fan cooling system, after certain amount of high cpu usage time, the cpu starts throttling to cool down the system. why is this important? not all the ableton users are in home producers, some of us doing live looping performances and djing with the macbooks and sometimes it is in hot weather in summer beach etc

    • @bjornark
      @bjornark  Před měsícem

      Noted, I will implement temp-monitoring software in the future.

    • @hasenakkhaya
      @hasenakkhaya Před měsícem +1

      @@bjornark with long term usage please. Not just 3-5 minutes, maybe 30 minutes or more? İ dont know but you are such nice person thanks for the reply

  • @konrad.conrad.conrado
    @konrad.conrad.conrado Před měsícem +1

    Would improve efficiency if instead of use Vst format, go for AU??

    • @bjornark
      @bjornark  Před měsícem +1

      Depends on the plugin I believe. VST3, AU, CLAP is the modern ones.

  • @davidpickett3546
    @davidpickett3546 Před měsícem +1

    Ive just bought the new m3 air 8gb. Will this suffice for just audio tracks with minimal plugs

  • @budgetkeyboardist
    @budgetkeyboardist Před 2 měsíci +6

    My 8 GB M1 Mac Mini is more capable than my 16 GB 2018 MacBook Pro by a pretty good factor. If your needs are modest, 8 GB of RAM on an M1 can work fine. People who say "It's not enough" are not taking into account any variables. It's enough for many uses, but not for all.

    • @Marco-ek8wu
      @Marco-ek8wu Před 2 měsíci

      Same here. M1 Mac mini, 8GB ram, 500gb hardrive. Ableton 12. More than enough.

  • @KevinBenjaminMusic
    @KevinBenjaminMusic Před 2 měsíci +3

    i admit that for musicians that records music out of the box and not working fully in the box with virtual instruments and alot of effects
    you can get away with a base modal and thats pretty awesome ....BUT !
    apples sales tactics and still selling 8 gb of ram in pro models and the uprade pricing is still the worst thing about apple

    • @bjornark
      @bjornark  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Agree with everything you say. Especially the upgrade prices. Going from 8GB to 16GB or 512GB to 1TB storage. Those prices are too high IMO.

  • @SuperAnatolli
    @SuperAnatolli Před 2 měsíci

    It has 4 times more RAM than I have on my DAW-computer (that works just fine)...

  • @TonyThomas10000
    @TonyThomas10000 Před 2 měsíci +1

    They are actually selling that model again exclusively at WalMart for $699.

  • @MediaMusik777
    @MediaMusik777 Před 2 měsíci +1

    It’s a parallel design so really 8 is 16 and 16 is 32 so forth

  • @wazmand
    @wazmand Před 18 dny

    Don't do it in logic 11 :( CPU issues .

  • @felixbr26
    @felixbr26 Před měsícem +1

    Hello, is this 48khz or 96khz?

  • @nemesishacking
    @nemesishacking Před měsícem +1

    Can you help me choose? I will donate a sample pack that has 500mb of rare samples. All high quality. If you can help, I need a macbook for running ableton 11. I also use logic. Id really appreciate it. My budget however, is 3000au dollars. So I cant afford the best. Id appreciate it.

    • @bjornark
      @bjornark  Před měsícem

      Its difficult, I dont know how your market is where you live. But focus on getting a mac with the most amount of performance cores you can afford.

  • @FynnFTW
    @FynnFTW Před 2 měsíci +1

    "cause 8gb in our MACs is like 16gb on other systems" 🤣😂

    • @bjornark
      @bjornark  Před 2 měsíci +2

      8GB is absolutely not 16GB. :D But macOS might manage the memory better in some cases, compared to windows.

    • @FynnFTW
      @FynnFTW Před 2 měsíci +1

      well. i just quoted apple@@bjornark

    • @bjornark
      @bjornark  Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah I know, that was peak-Apple PR. :D

    • @typ0_music
      @typ0_music Před měsícem

      He's not wrong though, it's always seemed that way to me between various Mac and windows machines, now since the M1 in 2020 released its even more apparent

  • @synthetic144
    @synthetic144 Před 3 měsíci +18

    just dont do it ! even your grandma needs more than 8 gb ram these days

    • @bjornark
      @bjornark  Před 2 měsíci +13

      Haha, nope. My mom and mother in-law is doing fine on 8GB :D

    • @GoutamSingh
      @GoutamSingh Před měsícem +1

      😊

  • @KC-lg8qf
    @KC-lg8qf Před 2 měsíci

    No....not enough