Yu-Gi-Oh! Forbidden Memories - Heishin 2 win and Seto 3rd loss
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I'm extremely happy with how I played these two duels. After the Heishin duel I basically figured I wouldn't have enough time. The seto duel confirmed this, but I kept trying anyways, and came VERY close. With what my deck was, this run went so far. Thanks to all who were around for it FrankerZ/
FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW: The reason behind not attacking the strong cards on the field, like Gate Guardian, is because I had them 'magic locked'. This means by keeping these stronger monsters alive, the AI thinks they are in control of the duel so they do not play magics, like Shadow Spell or Raigeki. I use this to my advantage in order to try to chip away at their lifepoints and win. For more information on this manipulation relating to magics, check my other CZcams video titled "AI Manipulation" or something to that nature. -- Watch live at / gfc_
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I sware to the good lord everything in this games makes twin headed thunder dragon
*swear
Cwear
Twin Headed Thunder Dragon should be the game mascot
I never thought I'd see someone deck out against Seto the third 😮
It was so frustrating seeing you not destroy the gate guardian I really don’t understand why you didn’t
There's a technical reason called magic locking. Without getting into the specifics of how or why it works, basically, in this particular situation, keeping the Gate Guardian alive was keeping Seto 3rd from playing magics like Raigeki against me.
The moment I killed that Gate Guardian, I would've lost from a Raigeki being played.
I plan on releasing a video soon explaining how magic locking works well. I do have a video that explains it, but it's super old and shitty.
@@GFC_FM ouhhhh I see fair enough and tbh after 6 years I’m surprised you even replied yet alone so quick 🤣🤣🤣
@@bigchef4414 LOL I still get notifications on my phone for comments and I try to reply to ones like this as much as I can
ONE OF THE BEST DUELS OF YUGIOH FORBIDDEN MEMORY EVER I HAVE SEEN.
GOOD JOB!
ACTUALLY, THESE BATTLE LOOK ''REAL''
We can't really escape twin headed thunder dragon, can we? xD
Excelente serie de este juego de mi infancia . Toma tus likes
That fucking machine king
You just simply can’t get any better at this game than this guy. With every odd against him he still beat heishen 2 and almost beat seto 3
"almost beat seto 3" I'm sorry but he could've easily defeated him..... He just was stupid enough (and I mean no harm here) to attack the Guardian with his Thunder Dragon.
Edit: I was not aware of the technique of "Magic Locking", like I said I did not mean any harm. It seems he would have lost no matter what he did. So hereby I apologize.
@tanriel bloodwood I was wondering why he didn't attack gg as well. Some other comments mentioned how the computer will use a raigeki to win no matter what "rng manipulation,magic locking" etc. U weren't the only one thinking it lol.
why would gate gardian attack the twin dragon if not at least draw the battle?
I asked myself the same but I assume the AI only thinks in 100 steps.
If I'm not mistaken is some bug related to the AI that does not verify the card equip / field boost if the Player has
The crazy music was one reason this game became a duelists worse nightmare
Nice duels!
I really love this game...but how can you play it online?
i was thinking. is even possible make the machine think the right choices before plays a card. i dream with this. so gfc.. what do u think?
8:06 Why does it say Raigeki?
Aram Izadi would also like to know, looked like the color palette for raigeki too or something
Its a graphical glitch and I think it only happens if you play the game using a ps2 console.
@ No, I play on PC and it happens very often.
@@Angel0ndeado Yeah dumbass that's called emulation which is exactly what the ps2 is doing so it's the exact same thing, it never happened when played on ps1. Only when being emulated.
The AI on this game can cheat and turn an existing card in it's hand into something else. There's other videos showing this on youtube.
shouldve set widespread ruin down after powering up thtd instead of constantly putting down monsters so u couldve gotten rid of seto 3rd gate guardian instead of having it last until you decked out.
He should have farmed for 3 meteor b dragons and 3 dragon treasure's
I think the idea there was to keep him magic locked to avoid raigeki
@@kdawg1492 He had a chance: the AI will always decide whether to use their Spells before declaring attacks. So, by putting THTD in defense position, the AI would check off the Spells, then attack with Gate Guardian, then end his turn without using them still, giving GFC the chance to counterattack and win in 1 turn so the Spells never get used. It'd be a risky move (Seto could draw something else that could attack over THTD's defense. Heck, considering Seto's LP, in order to win in 1 turn it'd have to be a turn where Seto sets a Spell so that Widespread would leave his field wide open), but it was his only chance.
why is the harpies featherduster called raigeki? 8:06
The AI can change the cards in it's hand, Seto 3rd changed Raigeki into Harpies there.
AI uses Gameshark.
Weil Seto genauso von hinten kommt wie Derva.
i wish the heishin i played against would be just as stupid like the heishin in this video. 😂 but very nice played man. i would lose in the first minute
8:06 what the heck is that
It's Raigeki Feather Duster... Duh! 😏
Too luck aganist Heishin man XD
It was interesting to see all of the comments of people arrogant enough to think they know more than this guy lmao
Why dont you beat gate guardian?
If i'm not mistaken, he didn't destroy it for RNG manipulation.
If he would of destroyed Gate guardian, then he would activate one of the magics that he has (rageki could be one of them) and win anyways
People say nightmare is the toughest and yeah he gives me trouble but I swear every duel with aero 3rd I always have to deal with that ultimate dragon and without meteor b or a very topped up skull knight it’s next to impossible 😪
Good go though 👍 I know you was trying to prevent magic cards but there was some turns where all he had on the field was gate guardian and at that point I think putting one trap down and destroying gate guardian would have kept you safe since he would either summon or play harpies feather duster or raigeki but he couldn’t do all 3 so even if you lost your thunder dragon you’d still have defence to attack next turn while there weren’t traps left. It’s obviously risky but these last duels in the game you have to use everything you can to get through
Seto is actually harder then Nitemare, since seto actually has a higher chance of using the ultimate dragon and he uses good spells and traps too while nitemare only uses monsters
8:06 Raigeki??????????????????
Tadakatsu Honda si tienes suerte, al comienzo del juego te dan uno, pero si es posible, lo que yo nunca logre sacar son las widsperread ruin
Las trampas de "Ruina generalizada" las da Heishin 1 y 2 en stec (cuando la AI se queda sin cartas) jugando bastantes duelos
Why He dont attack the guardian
dude, you didnt see that five trap cards on the field? it would be risky
Lol there is no Trap Card on 12:57, because all the face down card become darker, so it is all spell card
Example at 8:20, one trap card, one spell card
@@amedd.monkey6391 so just run out of cards instead 😂😂😂
I know this is a bit old now but why not use Dark Energy on THTD’s it does work after all.
Upon seeing watching the vid a 2nd time I realise that you did actually do this. My bad!
he doesnt like winning. he used dark energy but too late. there was no reason why he couldnt have used it earlier.
FeelsBadMan
You do not let Kaiba beat you.
How much luck vs heishin wow
gate guardian loco te ataco saviendo que tu moster era mas fuerte 2 veces
Esos errores suelen pasar, ma pasó
Arriba lo explicaron, la AI del juego compara los ataques base de las cartas para decidir si ataca o no, es cosa curiosa porque sólo veo que lo hace cuando tiene cartas muy poderosas en su juego
8:03 - Raigeki?
Duelo raiz em. 👏
Why tf did he attack a 3800 with a 3750 xD
The AI doesn't read the equips in the cards
In 11:10 the two cards on fields inst a trap, u could be winner
Felipe Kaliell it’s because of AI Manipulation that he couldn’t attack Gate Guardian.
@@sliperio2 some extra installments for frames.
You could have won that Seto 3rd duel near the end, they were all magic cards he was playing at the end, none of them were trap cards, how do you know? When they play a trap card the display DOESNT fade, with magic cards on the field their choosing not to play WILL fade
Because of something called Magic Lock, I wouldn't had won. The moment I killed the Gate Guardian, magic lock would've been broken and then he would've started spamming magics (definitely Raigeki) on me.
Basically, without going on a super long explanation, I kept that Gate Guardian alive to do something called Magic Lock, which basically makes it so the AI is unable to play most magic cards. If I killed it, it would've been broken and I'd be dead. That's why I had to chip away until I could win in 1 turn, because otherwise I'd be dead if I let him have a single turn without the Gate Guardian.
At the time of this video I believe I had been speedrunning this game for maybe 3 years, today its been close to a decade (and I'm still actively running the game), and I have looked at this duel multiple times over the years and, while I do find a few tiny decisions that I personally, today, would've done differently, none of them would've given me a significantly better shot at winning.
This game has been ripped apart, we know exactly how the AI works, and the plays you see me make in this video, for the most part anyway, all have a purpose behind them.
Really interesting game to learn all the tech for, would recommend looking into some of the more technical stuff like magic lock, it's fascinating
@@GFC_FM Ah I see, guess I would have been screwed then if I was in that match, so basically the AI behaves differently if it detects its losing but relaxes and is less aggressive when it feels safe more or less?
@@runawaycat4594 In a way, yes. Basically the way magic locking works is that, for whatever reason, the AI doesn't see equips on your monsters at the beginning of their turn.
The AI, at the beginning of their turn, makes a decision of whether or not to play magics. This decision basically is determined by whether or not their strongest monster on the field is stronger than your strongest monster on the field.
BUT, remember, they DON'T SEE EQUIPS.
So, in this example, I had a Twin headed (base atk 2800), with 2 equips on it, bringing it to 3800.
The AI had a Gate Guardian, base atk 3750.
The AI thought "Okay, he has a twin headed out. The BASE attack is 2800 (remember, it doesn't see those equips). I have a Gate Guardian out, that's stronger at 3750. Therefore, I am in CONTROL of the duel and I WILL NOT play magics."
Now, in this case, I believe the field was Umi as well. The AI /DOES/ see field bonuses. So the AI would now see my THTD as a 3300 base atk monster. Still weaker than his Gate Guardian, so magic lock still happened.
However, let's say I killed that Gate Guardian, and then he only had a, for example, Blue Eyes White Dragon out.
Now, he thinks "He has a 3300 base attack THTD out, I only have a 3000 base atk Blue Eyes out. I am NOT in control of the duel, time to play every magic I can to get control!"
So, by keeping that Gate Guardian alive, I was ensuring he would always THINK he's in control of the duel, even though he wasn't, thus making him not play magics.
@@GFC_FM I wasn't expecting such a large reply lol yeah there was a lot of magic cards out there in that part, odds are at least 1 was a raigeki which would have been really bad, yeah you probably know way more about this game than I do, I think too (Not sure though) the star chip counter caps at 99,999 so basically cards that are just under a million are literally impossible to buy
why he not destroying gate guardian?
so the com doesn't use raigeki after it's best card on field is destroyed. It's a really cheap move by com.
cause he doesnt like to win....
1:05
I set my trap card face up and end my turn!?
damn right bro we flexin
4:26 why the fuck did the computer attack a face up card with a higher attack?
I dont remember ever facing heishin with anything under 2850. Or ever putting defense cards.
Normally he doesn’t play weak cards but he musta had bad draws in this video.
@@ryankalata out of my bajilion times playing. I swear i never had anything past 2800 but twin head
The best i had was millenium wall and equips for it. And trying again. I beat the game and it froze
YuGiOh Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon Memories .
Why did you lost to Seto 3rd? You could have won...
No, I could not have won. How do you think I could've won? Please explain the moves I made that were wrong.
GFC_ combine another thunderdragon?
GFC_ I believe you maybe could have won. At the end you could have attacked his Gate Guardian with your 3800 ATK Thunder Dragon and hit his LP with the Judge (4100-2200 = 1900). Then hope he didn't summon a monster with more than 3300 ATK to kill you when attacking your Judge (leaving you with at least 50 LP). Then kill his last monster with your Thunder Dragon making at least 500 LP damage (since he's got 3800 ATK and to survive you needed Seto's last summoned monster to have max 3300 ATK to survive when he attacked your Judge) and finishing him with Zombie Dragon for the remaining 1400 LP or less. Correct me If I'm wrong :)
Adri Kab In addition, the cards backwards were not trap cards. If you had attacked the Gate Guardian, Seto would continue to playing monster instead of spell cards.
You can activate more spells even with a full backrow. His backrow also might've had a face-down Raigeki or something. But I agree GFC ought to have noticed he was low on cards and just thrown down a Widespread or something.
haha you actack getgadian and win seto 2
threw so fuking hard lol
Chơi giỏi
Good match amiigos ;)
You could of killed him if you wiped out his Gate Guardian, how the heck did you know his face down traps and spell cards?
If the face down card didn't become darker, it's a trap card.
the fuck happened to heishin, attaking thtd with 50 less your card?
necesitas una pluma de harpy por esas tranpas
dragon ball super o fusionar una bestia alada + fabrica de conversión de máquinas 👍
@@miguelmedelguantecura3504 Es un speedrun no tiene tiempo para farmear esas cartas , piensen un poco xd
Ni siquiera eran cartas trampa
U shld win against seto 3rd with kill gate guardian
if he killed Gate Guardian the AI would use the magic cards that were face down, at least one would be Raigeki, what he should have done was to set down Widespread Ruin and next turn a monster to bait Gate Guardian to attack and then kill Seto with 2 attacks.
@@Kyle-hf7ji i know, since seto 3rd and heishin 2nd have similar gameplay
You could have won against seto try again you failed the last time because your skills weren't how should I say this
teach me Michael main
You had a lot of chances to win the seto, you didn't win through inexperience.
What chances? I rewatched the duel just now and I don't see any chances. Only thing I'd do differently is try a widespread bait play.
But "lots of chances" I don't see.
Youre probably implying I should've just killed the Gate Guardian and went full in attacking, right?
There was a reason I was keeping that Gate Guardian alive. Killing it at basically any point in that duel would result in basically an instant loss due to breaking the magic lock and getting Raigeki'd.
Only 2 options I had were to either try to lower his LP enough to kill him the same exact turn I kill the GG, or try a widespread bait move. I went with option 1 then, would've probably went with option 2 today, but I promise there weren't "lots of chances" lol.
This guy the way he plays is horrible and stupid who put all cards to shown and not send facedown? This make me sick
You have no idea what you're talking about. Facedowns don't mean anything at all in this section of the game. Heishin and Seto 3rd see what your cards are 100% of the time, even if they're face down. So playing cards face down means absolutely nothing.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about, and your comment has done nothing but make a fool of yourself. Congratulations.
@@GFC_FM lol 😆
You need practice more men
dude you deserved to lose. why didnt you attack??????
I didn't deserve to lose. It's called Magic Locking. By not attacking certain monsters, you can prevent the enemy from using magics (like Raigeki) against you.
Had I attacked, I would've had an almost 100% chance of losing immediately afterwards.
@@GFC_FM actually no. you sacrificed monsters several times with no return. so if you had laid your trap you could have attacked the gg pretty much risk free. and even attacking it with a risk is better than losing for certain. you were dicking around with 5 cards in your deck.... had you attacked in the beginning then you wouldnt have eaten so many -1000 either, or it wouldnt have mattered anymore.
ive beaten seto 3 many many times and leaving him a strong monster is never a good battleplan.
@@dervakommtvonhinten517 If you really had any knowledge about this game you would know that the only magics seto 3 has are raigeki, shadow spell, and harpie's feather duster. He had used 3 shadow spells already and can't have more. Leaving just duster and raigeki. Raigeki instantly kills him unless he goes wall shadow or metal guardian. Duster will eat every widespread he plays. If he had went with your line of just killing the gate guardian he loses instantly in all likelihood unless every card facedown on seto's side is a feather duster. He played it exactly as he should have in that situation and to boot he has put in way more hours into this game then you ever will.
@@dstreetz91 thats a really stupid line to end your argument with: a) you dont know how many hours he has put into the game, b) you dont know how many hours i have put into the game, c) you cant tell the future.
and if it is true that he has no other spells, then why not attack with his first dhtd? it either would have cleared the trap card and died, or killed the metal zoa. this way it died without accomplishing anything.
and speedrunning the game without a) a bunch of pump spells and or b) skull knight is just inefficient. so keep your fanboy juices in check and craft a good argument without stupid taunts in the end....
@@dervakommtvonhinten517 He had a trap out and the only trap seto 3 plays is widespread ruin so if he attacks his 3300 thtd into metalzoa it gets eaten by widespread, seto plays a gate guardian and kills him immediately as he can't tank a hit from a 3750 and 2500 monster. To get skull knight you need to farm meadow mage, who is difficult to sa pow unless your deck is already really good as sogen + millenium shield is only getting beaten by double equip, megamorph, or umi and on top of that nobody farms him for skull knight specifically, they do it for MBD who can beat a lot of the final 6 but still requires you to draw it to do anything as a single card in your deck. If he had killed the gate guardian with his THTD he loses immediately to raigeki the next turn + a direct attack as he can't defend himself with widespread ruin when seto will duster any widespread ruin he plays immediately. There was no way for him to win that duel besides doing effective attacks on monsters that seto played to kill his weak ones, it just so happened that seto played a whopping 5 magic cards effectively wasting 5 turns/not taking damage on those turns at all effectively sitting behind his gate guardian.
this is not yugioh
MrBigbrownies Actually, yes it is.
sorry, I meant, this isn't TCG nor OCG. Lol i'd say its blasphemy
MrBigbrownies this game was developed before the card game existed.
False, it came out at the same time. This game doesn't even follow the bandai rules lol. This is absolute sacrilege
MrBigbrownies Keyword is developed, not released. Quite likely this began development either directly before or at the exact same time as TCG. The point is that, when this game existed, there was no standard rule set. So saying that this isn't real yugioh is objectively wrong. Back then, when this game was thought of and developed, this was yugioh.