Flamma FS21 Looper & Drum PERFECT PRACTICE TOOL!
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
- This is the Flamma FS21 looper and drum machine, the ideal guitar practice pedal with superb sounding drums and the ability to import your own backing tracks and save your loops into 40 different slots.
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The guitar looper and drum pedal can run in either mono or stereo depending on what you need and the 100 drum grooves over 10 genres all have a built in fill to make the groove more interesting, simple to use and sounds great through the amp.
0:00 Intro
0:29 Spec
0:41 Loop jam
3:05 Drum sounds
4:49 Software and saving/loading backing tracks
5:23 Music is Win outro
Cheers for watching - Derek
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What other loopers do you guys use? If you enjoyed this video, be sure to like and subscribe :)
I had the EHX 720 and it was cool but 11 slots filled up fast - plus I can’t recall if it was stereo.
Line 6 DL4 is easiest for a noob to use but you can’t save even a single loop.
Aeros looper is the Cadillac (better than Boomerang) but it’s about $500, so unless you live to loop (or make $ from sessions) it’ll be too pricey.
Boss loop stations are cool but the actual loop switches tend to be clumsy and can make or break your loops.
@@rishpanjeet7479 Thanks for the info! for what i need from a looper, the flamma has it all, what a great find, cheers!
@@DerekPaulGuitar YOU keep up the good work!
@@rishpanjeet7479 Thanks man!!
I've recently purchased a Line 6 JM4 looper. Had to find a used one because they're out of production now. The drum sounds are excellent and the main reason why I chose this looper. They're samples of some top session drummers playing their favourite rhythms.
It has a LOT of other functions which I won't be using much...but they're there should I ever need them. Cheers.
I own this unit. Bought it second hand for €80 and didn't really want to seal the deal when I met the guy but didn't want to renege on the deal. Cannot imagine not having this now. Its so easy to use and such a great practice tool. The 40 user slots are great too
Yours is the clearest, most well explained review of this pedal I have seen; thank you.
Oh wow! Thank you, I really appreciate that, cheers!
oh thank u very much, I was searching a model of cheap looper.
This one seems the best choice for the price, and the drums are very welcome ^^
Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Amazing will buy one😀
Jack and Cindy just got me one of these babies for my birthday today!!! Awesome!
Superb! Enjoy
Thanks Derek, bought one myself.
Thanks for the comment and enjoy :)
very nice!!!
Great video man, that pedal is sick! Looks like you can have tons of fun, and your pedalboard also looks great! cheers Derek
Cheers man! It’s something I should have used for practice a long time ago!
@@DerekPaulGuitar actually, your playing reale shines with a backing track, and also it will help you to improve your tempo
@@TheKevinalejandroesp it can definitely improve playing, and I need it! Cheers man!
Very insightful review 😎😎😎🤘🤘🤘
Thank you!!!
Hi Derek, I'm definitely impressed by the Flamma, (and the demo as always), plenty of scope for practicing and at a sub $130 mark, I reckon it's decent value too. One of my old bands actually started with two guitarists, a bass player and a Boss drum machine which filled the gap to get us started, as we were all pretty much novices. We eventually took a drummer on and if it wasn't for the fact that the Boss couldn't buy a round after practice, we'd have kept it on!. The FS21 is just streets above the Boss and having a decent looper seals the deal for me.
Thanks Gareth, its an impressive thing! i was the same back in the day, we had no drummer so i ran the drums from a Korg workstation and a yamaha RY10, this thing has stayed on my board since i got it :) wish i had something like this back then, would've made life so much easier! cheers!
best review. well done
Thanks!!
nice one sir, I'm looking for a looper that is my budget of course is easy to use and practice... thanks for you sir
This is great pedal, if you watch this video and need good looper buy this one, it's one of the best amount other loopers
I was hoping to see the method of making verse and chorus for a song on this looper, also the usage of intro, fills and outro.
you have a massive thumb! great playing as always
Haha so I’ve been told, (the thumb) thanks :)
That seems nice. I bought the lesser Flamma Drum Loop a couple months ago. You win this round.
I win? I don’t usually win! Nice 👍 cheers John!
Does anyone one know if you can use the software program to change any of the drum loops or does it only work in the memory slots?
Nice review! Thanks
Thanks for the comment and kind words!
@@DerekPaulGuitar No problem! Keep it up! Been looking for a looper with drum effects! Thanks again!
@@v-gc7257 thanks man! Had to help out
Thanks for the video good work. I purchased from Amazon using your link hope it helps you.
Thanks man! That’s so kind, yes it does help out, very much appreciated, cheers and enjoy the looper :))
I've been off the grid for a while, back up and catching up on videos I missed. This looks like a sweet pedal!
Hey man! good to see you back! it's a great practice thing, i'm enjoying it!
Can the right button be used to stop /run the loops without using the drum section at all?
Thanks for the very informative video, Derek! Any comparisons of the Flamma to the Beat Buddy or Beat Buddy Mini pedals? Thanks!
Thanks for the comment, I haven’t used the beat buddy but have heard great things, especially the drum sounds, cheers
Just bought the Donner version of this looper pedal. I think they are pretty much the same.....160 min record time and 40 memory slots, same number of drum beats. The Donner at $108 US is $20 less than the Flamma but I had a 20% off coupon for the Donner so I got it for $87 US. BTW, the Mooer looper is more expensive than the Flamma but is also the same pedal too.
Oh nice! Good information that’ll definitely help someone out, cheers!
I don't seem to be able find a simple 3/4 beat. Is there any way to get around this?
That’s pretty nifty, makes my Boss looper rather obsolete. I imagine that the recordings you can make from this sound pretty good, have you laid down many tracks with it? I can hear that disco beat late at night on ten, LOL. Good playing and really nice tone on that strat.
Cheers!
Haha cheers! Yeah I’ve been using it a lot actually, playing 3 chords over a rock, blues or hip hop beat (joking about the hip hop) and practicing my improvising (it’s slow but getting there) cheers my friend!!! :)
Great demo, thank you! When you loop with a drum machine... does it "round up" your loop to the end of the drum count? ...meaning, if you're a bit sloppy with the button, would it keep your loop in time? I hope that makes sense, lol.
Hi, thanks for the comment, I think your saying does it time stretch the loop to fit the drums? Unfortunately not, what you play in is what you get out, cheers!
How do I get from bpm up to volume or "select"??? I'm losing my mind
Hi derek
Ty for reviewing this pedal
Can it send the drums to a seperate (mixer) output, like the nux jtc drum & looper?
Hi, thanks for watching! To be honest I can’t remember but I don’t think you can, although you can adjust the levels of the drums and loops separately, cheers!
Great review. I just buy one and waiting to arrive because of the extra footswitch suport. Can i control the velocity of the drums on the tap switch or in another switch?
Thank you! I’m not sure with regards to the foot switch as I didn’t have one, flamma support are pretty good though, cheers!
Nice video! Thanks!
Does the screen display bpm? Or just led blinking?
Thank you!, it’ll display the BPM when you dial it in if that helps
Hey, sorry just a quick question. If I turn on a pedal, like a blues driver, will what I have already recorded change too? (as in will it sound like I recorded it with the blues driver in the first place?) Thank you and great video!
Good question! Yes it will if the looper is before the blues driver in the chain, and no if it’s after the blues driver in the chain, cheers!
Hi Derek, well I just had to buy one, arrived yesterday😊 And although I'm a novice, I'm very impressed by the Flamma. What's the best EXt CTRL foot control to buy for this? I looked on the Flamma website and found nothing. Thanks
Hi Barry, enjoy the new looper, with regards to a foot switch I’m not sure but there are plenty of great metal housed foot switches available, even the fender one is only around $30 I think, cheers
@@DerekPaulGuitar Thanks Derek.
Hi Derek,
Thank you for all the nice looper videos. Very informative.
I'm comparing 5-6 of those drum/looper combination the last days, but it's hard to decide.
The NUX JTC was my favorite at first, drums can be routed to a separate amp, good recording time but the drum variations are very limited. The Mooer sounded good, but just 14 presets...🤔
I need a kind of trainbeat for Rockabilly stuff.
Are you aware of a brand which offers this and a separat output for the drums?
Thank you in advance, stay safe and best wishes from Bavaria Germany 🇩🇪
Hi, thanks for the comment, I think both have a shuffle beat but not sure on train beat unfortunately, maybe a train beat backing track to load into the unit? Cheers
@@DerekPaulGuitar
Thank you for responding.
Copying a trainbeat to the pedal also came into my mind. This could be another chance for the NUX...lol
@@TheElrondo and many more beats :) hope you find your looper 👍
hello good sir. How do you find this pedal agains the nux pro you've review some time ago or the rc-5 and the donner looper? Wich one you things pack the most bang for your buck.? great videos btw.
Thanks for the comment! in my humble opinion the Flamma is the best bang for the buck, great drum sounds and looper, it's the one i still use, cheers!
Exactly the same question I wanted to ask - Thanks dude 😎👍
I use my amp with crunchy tone...so the drums are always also crunchy/overdriven..so where I can put the machine, if there's no FX loop...but a aux in and phone out
I think you’d be better off using an overdrive pedal and putting the drum machine first
Hi. Thanks for the video
Question:
With a side pedal( bass fs7) can I record a guitar loop with rythum and turn off and on that guitar loop while rythum continues on?
Also, does it have Latin rythums?
Thanks!
Thanks for the comment, and yes it has 10 latin rhythms, and you can switch off the loop and just have the drums play, cheers!
@@DerekPaulGuitar thanks!
@@DerekPaulGuitar so just to be clear, I can turn the guitar loop I recorded with the rythum off and on again while rythum is playing the song?
Absolutely! It’s a great way to do it too
Its like its on metronome just with extras
Goodnight!
Very good video!
Is it possible to import my backing tracks from my computer into the pedal?
Or can I just import recordings from the pedal itself?
Hi thank you! yes you can import backing tracks into the pedal, cheers!
@@DerekPaulGuitar Thanks!
I'm hoping this works with a amp headphone. I can't make noise in my apartment. Thanks you for the review.
Thanks for watching!
Because it's also a drum machine (and has a sense of timing), is it more forgiving with your stop-record button press than a regular 'raw' looper? Like, does it round to the nearest down beat when you press the stop-record switch? Trying to figure out how it behaves if you're late or early with your loop end.
Hi Alex, it does have a fade out option on the drums which i use (find that very handy) if that helps?
@@DerekPaulGuitar No more like this: I tap to start recording with the drums on. Then I play a measure and tap again to stop recording, but I do so slightly early, like a half beat. Does my loop start to play, but out-of-sync with the drums, or does the machine 'gap' that beat and then start the loop to keep it in timing? Basically how do the drums affect the looping behavior if I'm early or late with my button clicks.
@@alexfilmwriting Oh i see what you mean, i'm not entirely sure with regards to the drum loops finishing the beat before looping, i'll have to try it our this evening and see, cheers
The answer to your question is basically "yes."
The looper auto edits to the nearest measure for seamless looping when using the drum machine parallel with the looper. It works very well.
Is it possible to get a list of the 10 drum beat categorys? I cant seem to find it anywhere and its quite a deal breaker for me! most importantly, does it have reggae drums?
Therte's actaully 100 different drum grooves from 10 unique music styles and 10 types of metronome settings to choose from, i havent found a list in the manual i'm afraid!
how the f do i turn it off
Hi Derek. I bought one of these but i seem to have issues when I plug my acoustic into it directly (the volume is too soft). Did you
Plug your guitar into a DI box first and then run out of the DI into the fs21?
I didn’t have a problem going straight in to the Flamma, I’m using an LR Baggs element preamp in my acoustic
You will need any kind of acoustic preamp if your guitar hasn't one built in
Digitech Trio adds a bass line and drum breaks, automatically pics up your rhythm and chords, so sounds better, but make sure you get the version with the looper, unless you already own a looper, in which case the looperless one works just fine. The Digitech also allows you to create separate song parts and jump between them. Just a better pedal all round.
Can you separate the drum and loop signal from the live signal? Run the rythm stuff into the pa
Unfortunately not on this unit, you can on the NUX loop core II stereo though, thanks!
I wonder how this compares to the donner circle looper in the same price range
same!
Nice video! :)
If you use this looper/drum pedal with a chorus pedal, into an amp that only has a main input (no fx loop), is the chorus pedal going to create a problem with the drums?
Guitar - Chorus - Flamma FS21 - Amp (Front)
I had someone warn me that I would run into an issue if I tried to use the amp's own built-in delay effect, as it would put it on the drums also. Trying to work out if this would be a problem with a separate chorus pedal.
Thanks in advance if you have any thoughts on this.
If you record the loop dry and have the chorus pedal after the looper you can add chorus afterwards or not to taste, don’t see an issue with using the amps dealt after either, assuming you can get the delay tempo to match the drums or it’ll sound messy, cheers!
@@DerekPaulGuitar Thank you for taking the time to respond :) I've ordered pedals, so a bit of experimentation is on the cards! All the best.
It’s the best way to figure out what works for you, no problem and all the best too!
@@DerekPaulGuitar I hope you're not saying that if I use my
guitar processor before the looper, it will have an effect on the
drums? Affecting the drums in any way using my guitar processor
to record my guitar alongside the loopers drum
track would be an incredibly MASSIVE deal breaker.
40 slots!!!
File transfer!
Stereo!
Drums!
Oh yeah!!
What can I do with the extra footswitch function?
You can use the looper functions :)
Hello! A question: Can I use to switch the mic of my percussions, instead of the guitar, pls?
Absolutely, just use a dynamic mic and you’re good to go
@@DerekPaulGuitar Great, mate! So appreciate!
Im going to use this at a gig, I cant figure out how to activate the fade thanks
Hi, just push the looper knob down twice and you'll see fade, cheers! (good luck at the gig)
@@DerekPaulGuitar got it thanks
Nice review. Can the drum fills be triggered hitting foot switch?
Thank you! There aren’t any fills unfortunately, although you can import your own backing tracks, cheers
@@DerekPaulGuitar thanks I am looking at this and the Donner looper.
@@DerekPaulGuitar which one is better you think? Donner circle looper or this?
@@bruggmanbrandon5272 I haven’t tried the circle looper but have tried the donner triple looper, if that’s anything to go by I’d go for the flamma, hope that helps!
Nice pedal, and good demo. Where did you buy it though, they’re hard to track down? 😊
Thanks! i got it on Amazon, they are still available, theres a link in the video description, cheers!
@@DerekPaulGuitar thanks Derek - sorry, I asked before reading - curse of the internet I reckon. I checked Amazon UK and it was unavailable, only place I could fine one was Aliexpress from China, so I came back to ask. Amazon US will ship it without any extra charges
@@Arthur_My_Dear No worries, oooh i'm not sure, you could always add it to your basket and it''ll calculate shipping charges, or do you have reverb.com where you are?
@@DerekPaulGuitar £123 after p&p and VAT. Could you check something for me please? Is it possible to have the guitar come out of one output and the drums from the other? The NUX Loop does this
@@Arthur_My_Dear Oh thats not bad, yes apparently it can send the drum signal to a separate amp according to the amazon feedback :)
With this unit can I route the drums to a separate amp and still use the looper through my guitar amp ?
Thanks for the comment, I don’t think you can, but might be worth reaching out to flamma, great guys :)
That sounds like a nice thing to request froma firmware update. Since they have stereo outs they could route the drum signal to the right channel only.
How many LOOPER TRACKS CAN BE STORED IN THIS DEVICE? THANK YOU.
You have 40 tracks or slots, thanks
can you use this for just a kick and no other drum sounds?
Unfortunately not, it would be a nice update though!
just got one as a present, however the link on the Flamma site for setup & user manuals are all dead links :(
Ah i noticed that, try this one cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0260/4476/0127/files/FS21_Manual_EN_V01_2020.11.05-G.pdf?v=1671178718
@@DerekPaulGuitar sweet! Thx!
@@DerekPaulGuitar it has a count in function!
I didn’t know that, cool!
It is possible to import a backing track longer than 4 min?
Good question, I haven’t tried it, sorry
How do you run this pedal on a board are you using the guitar amp or running to PA
I'm running it into the guitar amp (last pedal)
@@DerekPaulGuitar thanks a million
@@GuitarBailey No problem at all!
Said files transfered to the pc, are they including the drum tracks?
Oooh not sure, I’ll have to check that myself
can the drum banks be replaced...... They sound like toys! BUT I like EVERYTHING else about the pedal!
I don’t think so but could be wrong, I didn’t find a way to do it.
they arent bad really better than many
How do you change the tempo?
I’m pretty sure it’s one of the dials, can’t remember off the top of my head
How does this compare to the NUX Looper and Drum Machine pedal you also reviwed? I am interested in getting one of these for my practice. Thanks
I would say this is better for drum sounds for sure, but the NUX beats it for holding over 200 backing tracks if you want to import them, cheers!
Can you send the drums to a separate speaker?
Unfortunately not, cheers
it's possible to start looping on the rythm but without the intro fill?
Yes I think you can either have the intro or go straight to the drum loop
Thanks!@@DerekPaulGuitar
yeah just press the blue light button
Can I use his pedal in FX loop and is there a true bypass?
It is true bypass and I didn’t try it in the efffects loop, I’m sure it’ll work but I’m not sure if it’s the best way to do it, Cherers
@@DerekPaulGuitar I have no idea how the looper can be used without of the FX loop. Only for play on a clean sound.
@@Abreck69 Best way is to just try it to see if it works in the effects loop
Is this better than Nux JTC? Or the other hand?
The drums sound better I think but the JTC has a massive storage capacity for backing tracks
@@DerekPaulGuitar does this have fill in too like jtc?
can it swit off drum sound ???.....
Yes you can.
@@DerekPaulGuitar thank you ....
Seems to be the same as the Donner Circle Looper...
Right but which is better, cause I'm ready to buy on of them.
@@bruggmanbrandon5272 I would prefer the Circle Loop from Donner - I think the Flamma does not show the progress of the basis loop whil overdubbung ("Circle" is missing in the display on the FLAMMA?!?)...not sure, I hae the Donner and it is cool. The Flamma look better IMHO.
Where do you download the software, can't find it
I've looked everywhere on their website and cant find it...awesome pedal tho
@@evanpaventy3114 No worries, heres the download link, just scroll to FS21 :) flammainnovation.com/download.html
@@DerekPaulGuitar thanks, which one do you download for windows computer.
@@evanpaventy3114 Just grab this one marked... Flamma FM10 Edit V1.1.1 Setup_English_win.zip
@@DerekPaulGuitar I like the FS21 but I am challenged to connect it to my PC. Per your above suggestion - I downloaded FS21+DRUM_LOOP+V1.0.1 from the link above - my PC with Windows 10 kept saying "No Device Detected". Then I downloaded Flamma FM10 Edit V1.1.1 - interesting experience. The downloaded screen turned to some kind of gibberish - I had to shutdown my PC. Scary...
can you transfer to an IPAD?
I haven’t tried it unfortunately
For a drum machine the timing seems SUPER sloppy
I was looking for a DRUM machine. This was someone playing a guitar. DUH!
It’s also a looper
This is the worst drum&looper, this doesnt have sync to drums, and it cant change speed of your loop with drums.. there are few drum patern .and only 40 slots.. It doesnt have separate putputs for drums and loop thats completly sucks I'm pissed off. Nux can do everything I said and has 255 slots.. but this is likebroken pedal.
Dont buy this sh... Worst drum and loop pedal. Synchronization doesnt work, if you change tempo youll f..k drums with loop
It would help if you knew how to play on time or key
You played better solos, the first one is horrible 😢
Thanks for the feedback, improvisation is definitely a weak point for me at the moment!
@@DerekPaulGuitar but I love your videos, great sound , well produced.. 🙌🏻
Thanks man! Really appreciate that