The Scenic Route (Eisenhower) to Naperville Airpark
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- čas přidán 1. 12. 2022
- A short flight from Janesville, WI (KJVL) to Naperville, IL (LL10) had me wonder: will Chicago Approach give me a clearance through the O'Hare Class Bravo, or will I have to fly around it? Make no mistake - flying around it still results in a spectacular flight with beautiful views of the Chicago skyline from over Lake Michigan, and following the Eisenhower Expressway between O'Hare's Class Bravo and Midway's Class Charlie provides an easy route to Naperville from there. So either way we win!
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I used to fly from Naper Aero to Meigs Field everyday for work. Nice way to commute for sure. When they shut Meigs down in the middle of the night by carving giant, 12" deep X's into the runway, we were obviously finished. My buddy used to live there. We also had some great parties at Naper Aero. Those people know how to have serious fun. Lots of great and storied pilots have flown out of there over the years. I lived in Naperville for many many years. It's like Chicago west now it's so crowded. We happily left there 13 years ago and I've never been back. When we buily our first of 2 homes there, the town was awesome. It was kind of big but had a super small town feel. Now it's so dense it's silly. They're building million dollar plus houses on less than 1/8th acre lots. Lot line to lot lin and no backyards. The downtown area is so different, it's not recognizable. Sweet Home Chicago has moved to Naperville. Yeah, Naper Aero is awesome. Also used to fly from another aero community in Downer Grove every once in while. Fly safe
Thanks for the comment. I bet what you describe has unfortunately become the fate of many, many homes in once nice small town-like neighborhoods. And as far as Meigs Field goes, I want to cry when I think of what Mr. Daley did to that beautiful airport.
- Martin
Very nice. I really enjoy simple aviating videos, not over produced. No distracting music. Just the hum of the engine and ATC.
Well done.
Thank you, Ken. I wish I could offer the sound of a radial engine - that would be even better, right?
- Martin
Absolutely agree. There's another aviation channel I watch, well, used to watch. I grew tired of the annoying music, finger-snapping effects, etc.
Extreme clear toady, love your Bonanza
Thank you, Robert.
- Martin
Somehow just came across this, but this video was double special for me. We have a 1947 Bonanza (SN#190) that’s been in the family for 50+ years that I will hopefully be acquiring soon. But on top of that, I used to live and grew up in Naper Aero, or “Aero Estates”. This brought back a lot of memories. Thank you so much for making/posting this. Amazing!
Oh my God. I am a devotee to your channel. I wish I had known you were going to land in Naperville. I live 10 minutes from the Airpark and would’ve loved to of had the opportunity to meet you. Good luck.
Maybe I'll be back some day - if not in Naperville, then at Clow (breakfast at Charlie's). Both are nice little airfields.
- Martin
Hi Martin, I like your videos and I use it for my training language skills. It is nice to have the transcription of the ATC. I am a pilot in Belgium. Thanks for all that work, it helps me a lot.
You are welcome, Bernard - glad to hear this is helpful for you.
I haven't flown in Belgium in a long, long time, but back around 1990 or so I spent a couple of weeks in Baalen (Keiheuvel) during a summer camp of the German flying club I was in at the time. Fun times!
Regards,
Martin
Love your new panel!
Thanks, Mark - I am very happy with it!
- Martin
Always a great day when we get another video from Martin!
Oh, I like the sound of that, Marc. Now that N70TB is back with me, I will try to make new videos more regularly again.
Regards,
Martin
Shhh. Please keep our LL10 a secret. Hope you had a nice visit.👍
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Last time I was at Naper Aero there was just a hand full of houses around it!
It has certainly changed since then. Especially on the south side where it's very densely populated.
- Martin
Was just at Bessie’s not long ago…love that place. Decent price on the self serve fuel at JVL. JVL has a place in my heart…1st solo XCountry…UGN-JVL-UGN.
Bessie's is great - I'm hard-pressed when I have to make a choice between the Jet Room (KMSN) and Bessie's (KJVL) for breakfast!
- Martin
The ground controller at the departure airport seemed really patient.......😂
Yes, he was - it was certainly a busy time, and he was running both Ground and Tower frequencies at the same time.
- Martin
That was a really nice glimpse of real world VFR flying. It seems like no matter where you fly, you are always well prepared and ahead of the airplane.
Thanks, David. Of course, those two things are connected - being prepared means knowing what to expect, and that's the key to staying ahead of things.
- Martin
That’s why he is a great pilot, organization in cockpit is vital
Very nice video thanks for having us on board ,I enjoyed it very much.
Thanks for coming along on the flight!
- Martin
Schönes Video. Vielen Dank.
Das freut mich - herzlichen Grüsse aus Iowa!
- Martin
Awesome view. R nav 22l in Midway active just above.
Exactly - thus the "1,800 feet or below", to avoid running into a Southwest 737.
- Martin
Also it’s great to see that beautiful panel.
Oh yes!
As always well done. What’s not to like about living on an airport
I agree. For some people, those engines make noise - for me it's music to my ears!
- Martin
Excellent video and airmanship. A couple of tears arose into my eyes when you made that turn near the little peninsula where former Meigs Field was. Kind Regards, Mariano.
Thanks, Mariano. I, too, have fond memories of Meigs Field and wish it was still open.
- Martin
Martin, as always this is a great video. I love the Avionics panel in your Bonanza. Nicely done!
Bis später, Jim
Thank you, James. I am really pleased with the new panel.
- Martin
Thanks for taking us along on another great flight. Very jealous of your gear speed!
Oh yes, the 28V airplanes have a very nice gear speed.
I hope all is well in your part of the country, Michael.
- Martin
I love your Chicago ATC videos, keep them coning
Thanks, Brock.
- Martin
Airpark sounds good to me too, thanks Martin.
I'm flying a cheesy 152 tomorrow around the space coast.
But, just got the Sentry Plus to up my game!
I live not far from Naper Aero Estates.. I remember back in the day when that neighborhood and runway were literally in the middle of nowhere surrounded by corn.. now it's crazy when planes come in for a landing right over the Costco like you did, it's so built up! Great video Martin!
Hi Jeff - you should see the OTHER end of the runway. When I took off later that afternoon (same direction, to the south), it was crazy how built-up the area was. Not a good place to have an engine failure right after take-off.
- Martin
Jeff, I used to live in River Run. When we first moved to Naperville, we lived on the north end, and River Run was still a big farm. LOL It's sad to see how much they've turned it into such a dense place. I built a 4500 squre foot house in River Run for under 400K. I'm guessing it's a mil or close to it now. Man we had such gorgeous lots there, it was truly amazing. I miss the house and the lot, but not the crowds.
A plane crashed into Xsport Fitness there a dozen years ago. No fatalities luckily.
Thanks for taking me along on the flight, Martin. I flew into Clow from CID in my old Cherokee 180 a long time ago to see my sister who lived close by. Like a dummy, I flew a right hand pattern and got uncomfortably close to a sea plane landing from the left. I went around and flew the left pattern, like I was supposed to. I thought for sure the sea plane guy would come after me when I landed! But, he didn't, thank goodness . I learned a valuable lesson to fly left patterns unless otherwise indicated. Seems to me there was another grass, or dirt runway parallel on the west side that was used for sail planes. I didn't even know it was there. Don't think it's there anymore. Rick in Tucson
Yes, left patterns unless otherwise indicated.
I'll have to ask the locals about the grass runway you mentioned. Can't say that I have seen it or heard of one, but it's possible.
- Martin
Driving on the Eisenhower is far from "scenic" so it's nice to have an alternative! Also, quite the busy time at the other "International" airport!
Ha - yes, I agree. I have driven there and NOT enjoyed it. Good observation on Clow; they were quite busy that day, as was Janesville.
- Martin
Chicago airspace seemed like a pretty busy place. I was proud of myself for keeping up with you!
Yes, Chicago gets busy, but the Ground&Tower controller at Janesville really had his hands full that day!
- Martin
You flew right over my house. 3 miles north of Clow. I have a plane and hangar at ARR. we met briefly at Airventure 2 years ago I asked if you have ever been to Bessie’s. Now I know you have. Your panel is really nice and well thought out.
Thanks, Gary, and you are welcome for the aerial view of your house! 😀
Bessie's is one of my favorites, along with the Jet Room (MSN), Charlie's (1C5), Pilot Pete (06C), and Avion Azul (MCW).
- Martin
Good video!
Thanks, Christopher!
- Martin
Beautiful flight👍✈️
Thanks, John - glad you enjoyed it!
- Martin
Really a nice tour of the Chicago lake front last time I saw this tour was with captain Joe and yes an airport home is a dream good luck may be it will come true.
You are right, Mike - Joe and I enjoyed similar views when we flew from Bolingbrook Clow. It was a much clearer day, though, back then.
Regards,
Martin
Martin … great video of the city that won’t let you down. Like your avionics.
Exactly! 👍
- Martin
That's awesome. I'm in one of the flying clubs at Naper. My home airport.
It looks like a great place, Jacob!
- Martin
Fun to see LL10 come up on my feed yesterday.
Once again, a really nice video Martin! You're in my area now, and it's really fun to appreciate the sights from your perspective!
Thanks, Richard.
- Martin
Great Video as usual. Thank you
Thank you, Kevin - glad you enjoyed the flight!
- Martin
Martin, das neue Panel ist beeindruckend. Freue mich schon auf mehr Instrumentenflüge. Herzliche Grüße aus Hamburg!
Vielen Dank, Günther! Mitte der Woche hatten wir perfektes IFR Wetter, aber leider konnte ich bei der Arbeit nicht weg. Hoffentlich gibt's so einen Tag bald wieder.
Herzliche Grüsse aus Iowa!
- Martin
Nice to see you flying 70TB again!
I am thoroughly enjoying being back in the Bonanza, Tom!
- Martin
Busy Morning...Looks like your landing in someones front yard !
It does, yes! 😂
- Martin
Hi Martin, love channel But I did love your Avidyne panel better than the “G” panel, best and Merry Christmas
Hi Kevin. The IFDs were nice indeed. But there was no completely satisfying upgrade path to the autopilot I wanted (GFC600) with the IFDs. And as I am learning to use the GTNs, I see they do many things differently than the IFDs, but they are just as capable - with some exampled both ways where one has the edge over the other.
Regards,
Martin
Great flight
Thank you, James!
- Martin
Nice to see the Bonanza in the air again Martin. How many cameras are you running now? I think I counted 8 as I was watching. I imagine that makes for a long editing process.
Hi Jon. There were seven cameras on this one, plus the iPad recorder (so I guess that makes a total of 8 angles/tracks in the video editor).
- Martin
Great vid thanks for sharing!
Thanks, Shane!
- Martin
Great one -
Thanks - glad you enjoyed the flight!
- Martin
Nice vid Maretin. I used to live 2 miles se of LL10. Know the area well. I did a flight with an instructor Lewis to the city and back a few years ago. Similar route. These homes are awesome. Thanks for sharing.
*Martin
Glad to hear you enjoyed the video, Ken.
Yes, I'd love to have a home on an airpark!
- Martin
Home of the Lima Lima T-34 Formation Flight team LL10
Awesome!
- Martin
Hi Martin, very nice to be able to follow all flight parameters thanks to your new avionics and camera shots (at least 7 cameras on board 😱) Baron BE555 pilot here. Alain
BE55
Hello Alain, you are correct - there were seven cameras on this flight, plus a recorder for the iPad video showing Garmin Pilot.
Regards,
Martin
Hi Martin - At approx 18:45 time stamp there's a Foreflight screen I hadn't seen before. What is it and how do you get to it? Thanks!
Hi Mark. The reason you haven't seen this screen in ForeFlight is that the app I'm using there is Garmin Pilot! 😀
Regards,
Martin
I would love to see some videos of how you use😊 the Aspen displays😊 in your flights. Get into the how and why you set up your displays during flights. Do you use the Aspen plates during IFR approaches? What about the weather displays like METARS and other weather displays during flight compared to using the 750s or your iPad. I have an Aspen 2000 ProMax in my Navion and am still trying to learn how to use it efficiently to get the best use of its capability.
Good question/topic. It'll take me a while to really understand what the Aspens can do, and how to best take advantage of that for me. Having said that, I don't believe I will abandon the iPad as a source of information for charts and weather - the large, high resolution screen just makes too much sense.
- Martin
@@martinpauly I look forward to seeing any future how to videos using the Aspens. I am not IFR rated but my plane has the STEC55x and the GNX375 for my panel GPS and ADS-B plus my iPad mini. I look forward to seeing you shoot approaches to see how you get everything configured between your 750s and the Aspens. I am curious about using 2 750s instead of a 750/650 combo. That is a very pricey combo for the average Joe. I enjoy your videos so keep them coming.
@@GrumpyBumpy You are right, Leo - two 750s aren't cheap. I use one for a map display and the other one for flight plan edits - most of the time. I really wanted two GPSs for redundancy and utility, and my experience from my prior setup (with a large IFD550 and a small IFD440) taught me that I really don't make any real use of the smaller device. So I figured I'd spring for two large ones this time - not easy on the pocketbook, but I felt I'd regret it down the road if I did not go that route.
Best regards,
Martin
Very nice Martin. Your panel looks amazing, video quality is outstanding. Do you use gopro audio adapter or stand alone voice recorder for the sound? Thanks.
Thank you very much for the kind words.
I record the intercom and radio audio on a separate digital audio recorder. But I also use the GoPro audio for ambient noise (engine, etc.).
Regards,
Martin
@@martinpauly thank you for response. I’m switching to the gopro after using sony action for several years. Planning to take my son for flight to Hudson river corridor tomorrow and hopefully can use my first gopro 10 in flight. Cheers.
@@Maximka1100 Oh, the Hudson River - I hope your flight turns out beautiful! Good luck with the new GoPro.
- Martin
Great flight as always Martin. Very nice views on downtown Chicago. I noticed your yoke is off to the left when flying level. Have you lost weight or is it in need of adjustment? :-)) Can't wait for the next one!
Have I lost weight? You are funny! 😁
It's a squawk from the recent upgrade. Should be able to address it when I go back to the shop after Aspen's STC is approved.
- Martin
Martin what kind of headset are you using? No sound issues??
What headset do I wear? Here are the details: martin.aero/wordpress/?page_id=321
- Martin
@@martinpauly thank you sir
I really enjoy you're videos Martin. I wish I knew how to do that. What software to you use for editing?
Thanks! 😁
I do all the editing in Final Cut Pro, and I use Photoshop for the still images.
- Martin
It would be nice to have my plane at home but I also like having my horses at home. I don’t think airparks allow horses.
I am doing the most dangerous thing I can do, I am thinking. I can do 3500’ paved on a friends farm just down the street.
I don't know much about horses, but I could imagine they would not like airplane noise much?
- Martin
At 16:20ff, you overfly (and clearly also feature out of your right cockpit window) the old Meigs Field airport (KCGX), a virtual iconic place down my memory lane dating as far back as the mid 80ies, when I got my first MS flightsim. I don't know how many hours I spent on that (then) coarsly pixeled and monochrome virtual airfield only to find out that it is meanwhile erased beyond distinctibility. Tempora mutantur, et nos in illis. Meanwhile, I have 1.500 real SEP hours in a VL-3 915iS. Mainly in Europe out of Berlin, but also over Africa and (2021) deeply into Russia. Never made it to KCGX in real life. What a shame...
I very much miss Meigs Field. My first landings there were in MS Flight Simulator, like you. Later I landed on the real thing many times. I hope there is a special place in hell reserved for Mr. Daley for what he did there.
- Martin
Denied across the bravo? Time to start bring pastries to the Chicago tracon.
I like the idea, but getting into C90 (Chicago TRACON) to deliver treats is a little harder than doing the same in Cedar Rapids.
- Martin
It would be nice to live in a GA Airpark. Nice flight, Martin. Are you getting more used to the new avionics? I see you have what looks like a Garmin GI-275. I thought with an Aspen 2000 or 2500 you had all the requirements for a backup instrument. Is that there for your mental well being, or is that required for the GFC-600 install?
Anyway, 70TB is looking great.
Hi Gary - yes, I am getting used to the new avionics, and things are becoming easier and feel more natural. I guess that's the normal development when starting to use something new.
Good question about the backup instrument. Legally the Aspen 2500 system does not require a backup. However, I feel comfort in having what's called a dissimilar device - different hardware and different software from the main instrument it backs up. That way, a single mistake in either the hardware or software design cannot bring down all available information.
The GFC600 does not require a Garmin PFD; it interfaces only with the Aspens.
Regards,
Martin
@@martinpauly I thought the GFC-600 didn't need a Garmin system, but things change sometimes. One of the reasons you chose it to go along with the Aspens, if I remember you correctly. As to the dissimilar device, I perfectly understand that.
Thanks for the answer, it looks like it was a great day for flying.
I have a video idea for you and also a question. How about a video documenting the Aspen AoA calibration process? Also, what is causing the “Traffic Degraded” message? I have never seen that with my Aspen/Lynx integration. Is this something caused by the Garmin ADS-B transponder?
That's a good idea.
Regarding the "degraded traffic", the Aspen manual says it means that there is no ADS-B traffic data uplinked from the ground. I'll have to ask Aspen if that message is meaningful anymore - I'm not sure it is.
Regards,
Martin
@@martinpauly I have some questions about your installation. It looks like you are using a Garmin ADS-B transponder to feed traffic to the Aspens. It look like only the left MFD is receiving traffic. Did you not get the traffic unlocks for the PFD and MFD 1000? I find having traffic on the nav map really useful.
Second question. If you are using a Garmin ADS-B transponder, why doesn’t your 750s show traffic trend symbology?
One of the reasons I ended up with the Lynx 9000 was that it fed FIS-B to the Aspens (radar, METARS, etc.). My Garmin GTN won’t accept the Lynx weather products but does accept TIS-B. At the time, when the Garmin 345 was released, it wouldn’t feed weather to the Aspens. Have they opened that option up now?
Third question. I am using Garmin Pilot and a GDL-52 for Sirius XM. I find the iPad is a much better format for managing charts as well as providing another source for weather and traffic information Is that what you are doing as well?
Final question. How often do you see the “Check AHRS” message on your MFD.
@@Marauder92V I think traffic is unlocked on all three units. For sure I've seen it on the right MFD1000, though the heading calibration issues I am still seeing there make traffic display not too useful. I have not tried to show traffic on the PFD - I find it sufficient to have one good traffic display on the left MFD (the 500 in my case).
Traffic trend - I have disabled that so far. One of a million new things I need to understand, then decide if I want it (or not), and then get used to. Give me time... 😁
I use my iPad the same way. In terms of size, resolution and user-interface, I feel the iPad is better suited for these tasks than any of the panel-mount avionics. Having said that, modern panel-mount avionics sure makes a nice and capable backup for the iPad - much better than what I used to have.
Check AHRS? I can't say that I've noticed it.
- Martin
@@martinpaulyIt looks like only the 500 has traffic unlocked. In the lower left hand corner of your units the status of the inputs are displayed. On the 500, I see the TFC indicator that is being received. I don’t see that on the PFD or the MFD 1000. I see regional weather on the MFD 1000 but no traffic.
The calibration issue you are encountering on the MFD 1000 might be linked to the “Check AHRS” message. At 8:37 of your video, you can see the yellow error message. This message is signifying a problem. I can’t remember all of the factors that produce it, but it is definitely something you want to have the shop look at.
As for the Target Trend, it is different than the typical traffic presentation you were used to seeing on your Lynx. The main difference being the trend indicator and seeing it coming out of the back of a target that you are overtaking. I do like it since it does provide some sense of relative closure rates as well as where the target is heading.
@@Marauder92V OK, I see the CHECK AHRS message now. Thanks for pointing me to it.
During departure, plane ahead and behind 70TB reported ready for take off. Only 70TB used correct wording with ready for departure. There is a big difference and my flight instructor would slap me on the head if I use ready for take off! This change was the result of Teneriffa crash involving two B747 with 500 people dead. I was wonder why Tower didn’t say anything, maybe they heard it all day.
Good observation. I emphasize this with my students: the words "take-off" and "landing" are reserved only for the actual clearance, not for anything else that might be related. I hear pilots use the wrong terminology all the time, so Tower controllers are probably desensitized.
- Martin
Keep in min at non-towered airports do not use ‘departure’. ‘Takeoff’ is the correct vernacular. There are a few of us ‘small town’ folks that love watching Martin’s videos too!🙂
@@Piper63180 I agree there is less opportunity for confusion at non-towered airports (simply because there is no clearance to take off or land that this could be confused with), but the AIM (chapter 4-1-9) uses the word "departure" even here. The example they give for announcing your departure on the CTAF is as follows:
"Strawn traffic, Queen Air Seven One Five Five Bravo departing runway two six. Departing the pattern to the (direction), climbing to (altitude) Strawn." See AIM 4-1-9 g (6) b.
Regards,
Martin
Hi Martin. I have followed your site for quite some time and and will acknowledge that your expertise in all things GA surpass none! That being said and it being a dreary rainy day here in the south…this is the perfect time for an online hangar chat. I’m in agreement as to the use of departure when announcing intentions at ramp, inbound, and outbound (as noted in your AIM 4-1-9 example). Here is where we have a slight difference of interpretation - example (I’m #1 holding short at Taxiway A and Runway 26): “CTAF COUNTY TRAFFIC, Piper xxxxW, Taking Off Runway 26, Departing the pattern to SouthWest, CTAF COUNTY”. I think the only difference I’m making is communication during actual taxi communication and takeoff. It was great hearing from you! JonhC
@@Piper63180 There's nothing wrong with a hangar chat, John! I follow your logic, and I agree the same distinction between "departure" and "take-off" at towered airports could also help emphasize intentions at non-towered airports. But when I looked at the AIM earlier to respond to your prior message, I could find no guidance along those lines - I just saw the word "departure" there. If you can point me at some guidance to use "taking off", I'd love to see it. Thank you.
Regards,
Martin