That was a quick 22-minute way to help me clarify the different between liberal feminism (which seems to have found a home within what was once conservative secular politics) and radical feminism (which continues to seek progress through left-wing socialist politics).
Yes exactly. Liberal feminism is a symptom of the society we live in in the West. It is great that they want to help but by not focusing on the root of the problems, the problems never truly go away.
Thank you for this lecture! I have always heard that radical feminism is good and liberal feminism is bad, but I knew it was more than that. I couldn’t find a single explanation on liberal feminism that wasn’t just, “It’s bad.” This video further demonstrates, to me, that it isn’t that simple. I would say I identify more as a liberal feminist than a radical one, but that doesn’t mean I fit neatly in there. For example, I think the issues of WOC, LGBTQ+ women, and poor women should absolutely be addressed and I absolutely despise the girl-boss movement (which, to my understanding, originated from mainstream, easily profitable feminism).
What I don't get is why these feminist and some men.. are so offended by the word 'man or men' ..like for example.. when people use the word or phrases like man-made man hole or mailman ect. !? Don't they get it!? the word man or men come from woman/women.. get it!? Got it!? Good!!
isn't 2nd wave radical feminism (based on marxist theory) and 3rd wave liberal feminism which is just the continuation of radical feminism with some caveats? The suffragette movement wasn't called liberal feminism as far as I know. can you explain, please?
the first wave was based on liberal, they had the ideia of equality between the sexes, and Marxist feminism of the working classes began to emerge. the second wave was about radical feminism, they had in mind question the differences between the sexes, and don't accept men. at the same time the questioning about black feminism began to emerge. the third wave was about the black feminism and all the others strands. remember that this is in a general context, the waves were different in Europe and the US.
@@beatrizcovelomachado9732 "the waves were different in Europe and the US." Naturally. The concept of waves is very American-centric even if it started there. yeah, Intersectionality and queer theory are very prominent in 3rd wave as well as marxist class theory or conflict theory. I get confused with those two. Thank you for answering!
Lul Factor no, liberal feminism has zero analysis. It’s basically faux-feminism commodified to mis-sell women things that are oppressive and terrible for them
@@ultimatums1 so........ you didn't watch the video, you don't know what feminism is, and your spreading lies and hate just to make women look bad, plus making men look all innocent like our past men wasn't the reason behind women rights movement, or that men created most of these sexist rules in the first place
In my opinion, The biggest DISSERVICE that WE (American Men) have done to women is give the Right of the Vote without the RESPONSIBLY of the DRAFT. While this can be remedied, I don't expect that Women would WANT it. My opinion, Women and Men are not the SAME, but should be treated equal. If you need examples, then I will give them!
@@lakshyarana7054 Okay, Once I babysat a few dozen children. After not being able to agree on a game to play (About an Hour time), I granted that they separate and select their game. Girls chose to have a Fashion Parade, complete with Make-up (Donated by their Mothers, Who were across the Hallway), while the boy chose to wrestle. If Boys and Girls are the same, then Why didn't they make the same choice? I treated both equally by allowing the girls to have their CHOSEN ACTIVITY. Another time, A girl came to the Cub Scout Activity that I was referee for and asked 'How can this be fun?' I said, 'Why don't you come and find out?' She refused. If girls and boys are the same, then Why Do Girls hate the Strength competitions that Boys love. I never told a girl that she couldn't play, but a Mother did. In fact, One mother was so BIASE that she wasn't going to EVER let her SON play again. If Girls are the more UNDERSTANDING gender, then why can't they Tolerate the games BOYS love? NEED MORE?
@@lakshyarana7054 How about a Man in a court was yelled at by his wife, because he signed away their right to a Foal. He asked her what about the 6 weeks of nagging about had he written the letter yet. How about the women near my house in Texas concerned about wasting water, when a fire was burning a wooden fence towards their houses. The wife of one man complaining about him not purchasing a garden hose, and so he is wasting his neighbor's (My family, in fact) water, when he is always saying one must be prepared. He replied, "What ever happened to we don't need a garden hose, we have a Fire Department." These Men and Women had very different reactions to the same circumstance. And why does it seem that women can't remember agreements?
@@BK-oe7cf About your critique, I have 4 comments. 1.) Strange that you would say that Women are better at Diplomacy, when I have witnessed MANY times: Women trying to out scream another one to get their way. Example: Two Teenage Girls were yelling. One wanted Fried Seasoned Potato Wedges (My Family call them Jo-Jo's.). The Other didn't like Jo-Jo's, she wanted Chicken Tenders, but the first one didn't like Chicken Tenders. After about 15 minutes of yelling and a Embarrassing comment from me, They agreed to half a pound of each. Which is what the Teenage boy recommended at the beginning! So who is better at Negotiating? 2.) Wrestling is actually a great way to learn SELF-CONTROL. The referee ends the match often before any injures happen. Besides not seeing how the match would have turned out, If the referee stopping the match is a sign to the boy that they failed at maintaining control. The Instant starting and stopping of the Matches requires Discipline to obey as well. In addition, Boys need to use up their energy before they can detox from stress. This heralds back to when the greatest threat to our (Hunter-Gatherer) Society was attacking animals. This stress was handled act first, calm down later. Evolution has never removed this Gender-Dependent reaction to stress. 3.) How is a fashion show acceptable? The self-training of girls to be objects for a Man's amusement? Or am I missing as much about a Fashion Show as you are about Wrestling? 4.) Initially Most Women didn't WANT TO VOTE, because they were afraid that they would be subject to the DRAFT.
I dont see men have more rights than women. Looking those ppl who commit prostitution and choking those who are not for high ride is pretty much nonsense.
women are still victims to femicide, honor killings, the pay wage exists, constant fetishization and objectification, human trafficking, etc -- and you still doubt men have it easier? you're just closing your eyes to it because you don't want to see it.
That was a quick 22-minute way to help me clarify the different between liberal feminism (which seems to have found a home within what was once conservative secular politics) and radical feminism (which continues to seek progress through left-wing socialist politics).
Yes exactly. Liberal feminism is a symptom of the society we live in in the West. It is great that they want to help but by not focusing on the root of the problems, the problems never truly go away.
i think you have it backwards
TheLaLa I think you haven’t watched the video
Well we socialists don't want them. They divide the working class and aren't helpful
Thank you for this lecture! I have always heard that radical feminism is good and liberal feminism is bad, but I knew it was more than that. I couldn’t find a single explanation on liberal feminism that wasn’t just, “It’s bad.” This video further demonstrates, to me, that it isn’t that simple. I would say I identify more as a liberal feminist than a radical one, but that doesn’t mean I fit neatly in there. For example, I think the issues of WOC, LGBTQ+ women, and poor women should absolutely be addressed and I absolutely despise the girl-boss movement (which, to my understanding, originated from mainstream, easily profitable feminism).
Why has it put, socialist feminism different from radical feminism, when rad fems are socialist?
Can someone get citations??
Thank you so much ❤
This was sooo sooo soooo helpful.
This was great
i dont understand why thses maam is speaking like she just reading from some text. what about explaination. maam give us explaination too
I can also do the reading, I just to wanted hear an explanation. What a waste of time
Just u r reading but not explaining
extreme
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Is she a BOT
What I don't get is why these feminist and some men.. are so offended by the word 'man or men' ..like for example.. when people use the word or phrases like man-made man hole or mailman ect. !? Don't they get it!? the word man or men come from woman/women.. get it!? Got it!? Good!!
This is so helpful, thank you so much for putting this together and explaining so well. Subscribed!
Thank you soo much ma'am!! It comprised of all the details which i need. Even the video length was good, not too long.
Amazing lecture!
isn't 2nd wave radical feminism (based on marxist theory) and 3rd wave liberal feminism which is just the continuation of radical feminism with some caveats? The suffragette movement wasn't called liberal feminism as far as I know. can you explain, please?
the first wave was based on liberal, they had the ideia of equality between the sexes, and Marxist feminism of the working classes began to emerge. the second wave was about radical feminism, they had in mind question the differences between the sexes, and don't accept men. at the same time the questioning about black feminism began to emerge. the third wave was about the black feminism and all the others strands. remember that this is in a general context, the waves were different in Europe and the US.
@@beatrizcovelomachado9732 "the waves were different in Europe and the US." Naturally. The concept of waves is very American-centric even if it started there. yeah, Intersectionality and queer theory are very prominent in 3rd wave as well as marxist class theory or conflict theory. I get confused with those two. Thank you for answering!
Lul Factor no, liberal feminism has zero analysis. It’s basically faux-feminism commodified to mis-sell women things that are oppressive and terrible for them
Well that was definitively engaging
haha
nobody is forcing you to be here
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Mam lecture is too good but very fast
Edexcel Politics anyone? O.O
[EWAN] The Chain Gang Yep found just in time
Robotic reading
Rather explaining only reading slides..
You are just reading slides
seems like someone is compeling you to speak.
True.
@CutePastelStars No shit sherlock
@@ultimatums1 so........ you didn't watch the video, you don't know what feminism is, and your spreading lies and hate just to make women look bad, plus making men look all innocent like our past men wasn't the reason behind women rights movement, or that men created most of these sexist rules in the first place
STFU
In my opinion, The biggest DISSERVICE that WE (American Men) have done to women is give the Right of the Vote without the RESPONSIBLY of the DRAFT. While this can be remedied, I don't expect that Women would WANT it.
My opinion, Women and Men are not the SAME, but should be treated equal. If you need examples, then I will give them!
@@lakshyarana7054 Okay, Once I babysat a few dozen children. After not being able to agree on a game to play (About an Hour time), I granted that they separate and select their game. Girls chose to have a Fashion Parade, complete with Make-up (Donated by their Mothers, Who were across the Hallway), while the boy chose to wrestle. If Boys and Girls are the same, then Why didn't they make the same choice? I treated both equally by allowing the girls to have their CHOSEN ACTIVITY.
Another time, A girl came to the Cub Scout Activity that I was referee for and asked 'How can this be fun?' I said, 'Why don't you come and find out?' She refused. If girls and boys are the same, then Why Do Girls hate the Strength competitions that Boys love. I never told a girl that she couldn't play, but a Mother did. In fact, One mother was so BIASE that she wasn't going to EVER let her SON play again. If Girls are the more UNDERSTANDING gender, then why can't they Tolerate the games BOYS love?
NEED MORE?
@@lakshyarana7054
How about a Man in a court was yelled at by his wife, because he signed away their right to a Foal. He asked her what about the 6 weeks of nagging about had he written the letter yet.
How about the women near my house in Texas concerned about wasting water, when a fire was burning a wooden fence towards their houses. The wife of one man complaining about him not purchasing a garden hose, and so he is wasting his neighbor's (My family, in fact) water, when he is always saying one must be prepared. He replied, "What ever happened to we don't need a garden hose, we have a Fire Department."
These Men and Women had very different reactions to the same circumstance. And why does it seem that women can't remember agreements?
@@bcsviewer1 Oh you poor, poor victim 🙄
@@WeatherMondacicci That may be sarcastic.
@@BK-oe7cf About your critique, I have 4 comments.
1.) Strange that you would say that Women are better at Diplomacy, when I have witnessed MANY times: Women trying to out scream another one to get their way. Example: Two Teenage Girls were yelling. One wanted Fried Seasoned Potato Wedges (My Family call them Jo-Jo's.). The Other didn't like Jo-Jo's, she wanted Chicken Tenders, but the first one didn't like Chicken Tenders. After about 15 minutes of yelling and a Embarrassing comment from me, They agreed to half a pound of each. Which is what the Teenage boy recommended at the beginning! So who is better at Negotiating?
2.) Wrestling is actually a great way to learn SELF-CONTROL. The referee ends the match often before any injures happen. Besides not seeing how the match would have turned out, If the referee stopping the match is a sign to the boy that they failed at maintaining control. The Instant starting and stopping of the Matches requires Discipline to obey as well. In addition, Boys need to use up their energy before they can detox from stress. This heralds back to when the greatest threat to our (Hunter-Gatherer) Society was attacking animals. This stress was handled act first, calm down later. Evolution has never removed this Gender-Dependent reaction to stress.
3.) How is a fashion show acceptable? The self-training of girls to be objects for a Man's amusement? Or am I missing as much about a Fashion Show as you are about Wrestling?
4.) Initially Most Women didn't WANT TO VOTE, because they were afraid that they would be subject to the DRAFT.
I dont see men have more rights than women. Looking those ppl who commit prostitution and choking those who are not for high ride is pretty much nonsense.
It's your ignorance
women are still victims to femicide, honor killings, the pay wage exists, constant fetishization and objectification, human trafficking, etc -- and you still doubt men have it easier? you're just closing your eyes to it because you don't want to see it.
both are inherently stupid movements and dont have a place today
Yepp, women should just be baby machines...
Mitch Rover No one said that. You’re just completely strawmanning the comment but I’m not surprised.
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@@Athena_said then perhaps explain how the movement is stupid ??
The only stupid here is you 🤣