Great insight Phil..great to hear the stories behind the making of some of your works, a real gentleman and a true talent with an amazing body of work...did I miss again is still my fave track..funky as hell and great horns
Damn Phil, you had me googling for 10 minutes trying to find the 808 used on the Abacab album, lol !! Turns out it runs all through "Man on the Corner". I had always just assumed it was the CR-78.
I liked your comment because i get your point, Michael. But likewise it was a wonderful era for great session drummers getting work all over the place -- not just Phil was on so many records but John "JR" Robinson, Jim Keltner, Jeff Porcaro, Steve Gadd, Bernard Purdie, Andy Newmark...
Moreover, as an all-eras life-long Genesis fan, i respect Phil for not eschewing the drum machines but rather embracing them and (perhaps it's just my opinion but) realizing they were necessarily going to be a part of the whole shebang going forward as it were...
Very detailed and informative, even though i knew about nearly all his uses of the 78 & 808. A shame more of this interview did not make it into the film.
Many without drum machines (like I) recorded a metronome, eq'd it, slowed it down and dubbed it. The dub was spliced into half beats and then quarter beats. And that's how my first claim to fame became in 1985.
First use of drum machine in Genesis is not on Abacab but on Duke, in the song Duchess. It even predates In The Air Tonight. I also always wonder what the drum sound is that is used on Genesis' It's Yourself, a B-side from the A Trick Of The Tail album. It doesn't sound like Phil playing at all, and does sound very mechanical.
I am hardcore fan of 808 bongos....combined with 808 kick - you have 4 instruments which you can tune all together and really tr808 turns into playing harmonies..... just check Massive Attack '3' from Protection album, I am so mesmerized by those bongo/congo sounds so much, I mastered tuning bongos on 808 to the fundamental of the song, and my 808 'sings' :). BTW agree what Phil is saying, the machine can be groovy, it just depends on how you program it...even considering the rigid grid (although 808 sequencer was slowing down at the end of the sequence and on the very first note - back on time, this alone 'created' certain groove....I love 808!!
kerrygordon I respect your views. I thought it was rubbish, listen to phil sing Suppers Ready, with Genesis. He does not have a motown voice. I found going back, bland and boring.
Owen Ltd it was for himself and Motown fans who love the original sound. It was perfect. Take a look at the documentary behind the scenes of the amazing recording session. It paid tribute to the acts that he loved when he was much younger.
kerrygordon Yes I have watched the documentary, very impressive with the drum sticks taped to his hand, I just don't think the album was good, singing was bland very bland....that said....the guy is a genius
He would have had a great career if he hadn't robbed that train. So sweet that he came back to the UK to see his wife but unfortunately he got arrested.
I really like you Phil. Deeply inspired by yout music as a musician and I thank you for all what youve done with Genesis and solo. And your drumming is still TONS better than whatever a machine can come up with, even a 808
Thank you for this. A quick constructive criticism comment: it sounds like the shotgun and lav microphones are out of sync by a frame or so. The EQ is also hollow and flat.
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Thanks so much for sharing. Fits in well with 2 articles we've written: 6 Awesome Advancements Genesis/Gabriel gave to the World & Roland, the Bisexual Drum Machine. :)
I was on that tour. Poor Genesis were booed and Phil shouted "Don't you like Duke?" from the stage. Everyone was expecting old Genesis tunes. I was quite pitty.
Let me summarise this man, One of my all time favourite artists in the world. True legend
This man the goat. He defined the 80s imo
He was a big contributor for sure.
The man of the 1980’s in terms of popular music for sure. No question. 👍
I'm still trying to figure out why you called him a goat 🐐. You probably meant to say God. Oh well, it's funnier that way.
@@machiwoomiapoo Greatest Of All Time
@@thchruan greatest goat of all time
Amazing Artist love him ,
It's hard to find interviews with him going into details about music like this.
I saw Phil, I put a like. And now, just watching and listening one of the biggest artist in the world. Thanks for your live in Paris 🙌
I get a kick hearing him talk about these machines in such detail and with such enthusiasm. Always inspires me to write more demos.
Me too. I wish he'd talk more about his drums, set up and technique.
He always used it so well...."as a precussionist." Hypnotic.
Great insight Phil..great to hear the stories behind the making of some of your works, a real gentleman and a true talent with an amazing body of work...did I miss again is still my fave track..funky as hell and great horns
Damn Phil, you had me googling for 10 minutes trying to find the 808 used on the Abacab album, lol !!
Turns out it runs all through "Man on the Corner". I had always just assumed it was the CR-78.
The handclaps on "no reply" are 808
Brian Davis “Me & Sarah Jane” is a CR-78.
Consider me educated
@@SPAZZOID100 Not doubting you but how can you tell?
I love to hear an artist discuss his method(s)!
I remember one of Phil C. songs that was always playing when I was in training at JFK.
We love you Phil Collins. I am watching Buster and you are so talented. Xo💋
he has to have his own movie about his life and A true story as a drummer and a singer
Very interesting! I could listen to him for ages!
Great interview...interesting hearing phil's thoughts and recollection of these iconic drum machines.
Amazing artist with a great memory for details... can't wait for new stuff
Happy 808 day ! ❤️
I'm watching this at 8:08 a.m.
The CR-78 didn't replace the drummer but the Linn LM-1 did.
I liked your comment because i get your point, Michael.
But likewise it was a wonderful era for great session drummers getting work all over the place -- not just Phil was on so many records but John "JR" Robinson, Jim Keltner, Jeff Porcaro, Steve Gadd, Bernard Purdie, Andy Newmark...
Moreover, as an all-eras life-long Genesis fan, i respect Phil for not eschewing the drum machines but rather embracing them and (perhaps it's just my opinion but) realizing they were necessarily going to be a part of the whole shebang going forward as it were...
Linn LM1 through a Boogie amp was the sound for Mama
@@semajttam Mike Rutherford said it was incredibly loud.
Thank you for sharing Phil Collins is a very talented musician .
Very detailed and informative, even though i knew about nearly all his uses of the 78 & 808. A shame more of this interview did not make it into the film.
O Phil é lindo💖💖💖🥁
i played some rhythms in my demo and more soon :)
Genesis-Phil forever
He the best
" Phil says "In the air tonight." GONE ISANE INSANE
What a cool cat.
Many without drum machines (like I) recorded a metronome, eq'd it, slowed it down and dubbed it. The dub was spliced into half beats and then quarter beats. And that's how my first claim to fame became in 1985.
the other joke is "you only have to punch the information into a drum machine once"
love you and you're beautiful and talented daughter :) inspiration ! thank you for you're music !!!! love you much ! peace and love
Dude I want to become the grandpa that talks about drum machines
Used on alot of dance music of that era...unique sound
First use of drum machine in Genesis is not on Abacab but on Duke, in the song Duchess. It even predates In The Air Tonight.
I also always wonder what the drum sound is that is used on Genesis' It's Yourself, a B-side from the A Trick Of The Tail album. It doesn't sound like Phil playing at all, and does sound very mechanical.
I am hardcore fan of 808 bongos....combined with 808 kick - you have 4 instruments which you can tune all together and really tr808 turns into playing harmonies..... just check Massive Attack '3' from Protection album, I am so mesmerized by those bongo/congo sounds so much, I mastered tuning bongos on 808 to the fundamental of the song, and my 808 'sings' :). BTW agree what Phil is saying, the machine can be groovy, it just depends on how you program it...even considering the rigid grid (although 808 sequencer was slowing down at the end of the sequence and on the very first note - back on time, this alone 'created' certain groove....I love 808!!
I really hope this genius would make another album, not that going back crap, his own way of playing and great drumming, he can still play......
Going Back was genius reproduction of the Motown sound with the Funk Brothers
kerrygordon I respect your views.
I thought it was rubbish, listen to phil sing Suppers Ready, with Genesis. He does not have a motown voice. I found going back, bland and boring.
Owen Ltd it was for himself and Motown fans who love the original sound. It was perfect. Take a look at the documentary behind the scenes of the amazing recording session. It paid tribute to the acts that he loved when he was much younger.
kerrygordon Yes I have watched the documentary, very impressive with the drum sticks taped to his hand, I just don't think the album was good, singing was bland very bland....that said....the guy is a genius
kerrygordon hated it
He’s also wrong about them not being hooked up to anything to time them up - they had DIN Sync.
As a guitarist I use the WD-40 all the time. Idone some of my best stuff with it.
He would have had a great career if he hadn't robbed that train. So sweet that he came back to the UK to see his wife but unfortunately he got arrested.
Hey, Phil haters! Heres a very well educated drummer talking about the AI that didn't replace him!
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When was this filmed? He looks skinnier then he looked during his tour.
Hin Bieger Good cuestion! Good looks !!
His last tour was crap, and he was on medication, he is fitter here, much fitter
New York. Yellow taxi's are the clue.
808 the Dangerous Drumkit lol
Dunno, love his mind
I think Genesis used a drum machine also prior to Abacab on Duke (on the "Duchess" track), was that the 808 or a different machine?
808 did not exist when “duke” was recorded.
@@SPAZZOID100 Right, apparently it was the CR-78
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I really like you Phil. Deeply inspired by yout music as a musician and I thank you for all what youve done with Genesis and solo. And your drumming is still TONS better than whatever a machine can come up with, even a 808
I think you missed the point.
Father To Son is a great song from But Seriously. Phil used drum machines on every album except Going Back and Dance Into The Light.
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This is why I like Hand In Hand
Because it's with real drums
Actually you could control the 808 before MIDI if you got a Garfield Electronics “Doctor Click”….
Thank you for this. A quick constructive criticism comment: it sounds like the shotgun and lav microphones are out of sync by a frame or so. The EQ is also hollow and flat.
#getphilvotedin2025
May Be 808 s
May be 808 State a more proper choose for this movie .
What year was this interview?
interview about 808 and no 808 in the view...:), cool interview anyway
Saludame porfa
Esta notificación de este vídeo fue de forma publicitaria, por que yo no sigo a este canal, aún que el tema del vídeo me interesa, yo no he pedido que me envíen esto
Thanks so much for sharing. Fits in well with 2 articles we've written:
6 Awesome Advancements Genesis/Gabriel gave to the World &
Roland, the Bisexual Drum Machine. :)
''Because he doesn't mind who he plays with''
Saluda
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ACESSA LÁ MC VX-ELA SENTA E SE ACABA
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how do we watch the full documentary
Gooogle it
He does not look the Phil he used to be
you know people age the longer they stay alive
After 8 mins I fell asleep.
Music is not for you.
Corinthians
Hola soy el primero
translation n?
I like it or I put this .i.
moby's dad ?
?????
I remember Genesis using the CR78 at the Hammersmith Odeon for their "Duke" tour -it was rubbish - dunno why they bothered with it.
I was on that tour. Poor Genesis were booed and Phil shouted "Don't you like Duke?" from the stage. Everyone was expecting old Genesis tunes. I was quite pitty.
Myriaddsystems that machine is a CLASSIC. “Duchess” would not have been what it was without the CR-78.
Peter Klauß i love “Duke”
Classic machine. Classic album.
@@pklausspk i LOVE Duke & the CR-78.
Phil get yourself a Roland Boutique TR-08
Only one output.
There’s no shaker on the 808
bh617 He used the maracas a lot, I’m pretty sure he meant that sound.
no bongos, either. But sure he meant congas.
an 808 too expensive for phil collins? wtf?? he's fucking loaded and he was umming and arring over the price?? pffff lol
Sususuddio
Not 808.
1st
Omg he sooo old
Don't live your life and you won't get old.
persona non grata
Real shit you just said Don
time happens.
Bianca. OMG! Your a real life idiot
You will be too after 30 years of major entertaining, illnesses and 3 major surgeries.
This is hard to listen to, he’s not a good speaker.. not surprising they only used one tiny soundbite of this interview in the film
He’s a LEGEND.