Imagine having an informative discussion with your elder SIBLING without disrespecting each other despite the difference in opinions. Penuel and Penson bravo. Love from Zambia 🇿🇲🇿🇲🇿🇲
S.O to you Benjamin . Yes the conversation was beautiful but some aspects of talking to your sibling kept on showing themselves. Penson my brother but with all due respect 🫡 please consider reviewing your communication skills . Pauses to let the question sink in , paraphrasing what they said to further understand the question and trying as much as possible to not interject while they are still speaking . Other wises you have a brilliant head on your shoulders and I very much agree with your proposed method of voting ✅
@@Beatbanguni we have similar views on many things, but also disagree with many things too. But I respect the fact that he has different views from me.
Great chat indeed, thank you very much guys. lol Your brother @GodPenuel is right though, about you NOT becoming a King and I'm not saying is impossible, however (and I think) for any Zulu man that's not from the "Zulu" Royal Family by blood if they want to become King, they have to battle and prevail the current Zulu nation just like before or akere For DA to gorven the country they have to have enough numbers to win the elections, they don't just decide that they want to rule and take over from ANC, they have to fight through demcratic way and If you study the Kingdom concepts unfortunately you will see that there's no democracy in the Kingdom, you don't vote.... kumele siye empini.
The Penuel Show with Penson Mlotshwa Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 00:05 - Selling out - What is selling out 05:10 - What is the black cause 09:20 - Skin & race 11:00 - What people should focus on 13:35 - Black struggle 15:40 - Universal identity 17:40 - South African politics 20:05 - What I'd change as president 28:50 - Social media 31:20 - Health 34:30 - Achieving my goals as president 40:40 - Which voting system is better 42:30 - Scrapping the political system 46:20 - Political education 48:15 - Social problems 51:25 - Social welfare 54:20 - View on monarchs 58:15 - Are politicians better than monarchs 1:01:15 - UK kingdom 1:05:30 - Earned leadership 1:12:20 - Leaving the Zulu tribe 1:22:50 - Plans for the kids 1:25:35 - ENDS
I am asking myself a lot of questions about the Mlotshwa family. Just watching these two engage gives me an indication that their parents provided and supported for an environment of learning.
I like watching people who look like me talk openly about things I think about...Self development is so important to the progress of the masses. What influences our culture as a nation...thank you gentleman
Hi there guys.. I'm a Mom watch you from Vancouver, Canada 🇨🇦. I'm truly proud of you my Sons. This conversation makes me proud to be South African...eager to take part to make South Africa great again. Thank you so much guys 👏👏
@@godpenuel But how do we achieve that? You once mentioned that you joined afriforum, why can't we have that for black people...stokvel set-up kinda of vibez
Reminds me of Nassim Taleb's quote. “I am, at the Fed level, libertarian; at the state level, Republican; at the local level, Democrat; and at the family and friends level, a socialist. If that saying doesn’t convince you of the fatuousness of left vs. right labels, nothing will.”
I disagree so much with Penuel but I enjoy this podcast cause it reveal alot about what I believe in, keep up the good work Pen. You keep me engaged on alot of things
A competency based voting system is so intriguing! Especially because it considers public interest where relevant knowledge is extremely important. The same barrier to entry, with the addition of an age cap, should be implemented for politicians to assume influential, high ranking positions.
This is really dope ..just before I even get deeper into the meat of the conversation,just seeing the two brothers sitting at a table together with so much respect for each other ,that alone is too much …big ups Pen ..🙌👊🏽
Biko said it, when consciousness becomes privilege, literacy belongs to capital: they will dictate how and what to educate the masses with. Mentally enslaved, will forever be physically enslaved. Aluta Continua✊🏽
Spot on, well said bro, the majority of our people are just that ( Totally Uninformed ), tragically. This is the reason we blindly follow opportunists and manipulative politicians. As an optimist, I live in the hope that the long awaited awakening has begun. In a Non-racialist society, we cannot continue to live within the constraints of race. South Africa, is the best country on the continent, we have it all, we just haven't worked out how to harness the best of us.
I always enjoy the convo of these brothers. Penson has a great mind, and he appears genuine, it’s not rehearsed it’s what he believes in. I love guns like you btw and thank goodness for white money they’ll fight for the us in courts against the father who wants to disarm us, yet they can’t even protect firearms at Police stations or military bases.
the reason why i dont have an ANC memebrship is cos most of my friends who are in the ANC always said join the party bra u will eat good only one person asked me to join cos he thinks i could do good but the problem is that there is no good in the ANC left
Honest Penson is describing the political system used in China to a large extent. You office yourself to become a member of the CPC. You have to succeed to be a leader. You have to run a municipality well to run a province. You also have to do something extraordinary to be in the central committee. Yes it has its flaws but it's produced the most sustained economic growth in modern history
true my leader, but if you look at how laws has been made to progress people with political structures and parliament is clear the same as what youre saying. it just that the standard has drastical dropped, procedural we are doing fine, the problem is with implentation if not substantial
Great conversations gentz. Reminds me of the mind stimulating conversations I always have with my younger bro. As a society, we must normalize the culture of holding mind building conversations around the our tables
Can you maybe one day invite. Ordinary citizens on shows to speak about how they feel and how the country can be saved by citizens and not politicians. Truth is that In all media platforms i have never seen a poor person speaking for poor people. Rich people come and speak for the poor and later go and pop shampainge bottles. There has never been any solution to any social justice. We dont wake up and decide we want to be poor.
Really great conversation. Regarding the access to culture chat, I think the missing link was spirituality. You can speak the tongue, live with the people, and practice the traditions kodwa if amadlozi don't recognise you, that's where your access ends. Ubalulekile umnombo
Great show as always and i don't appreciate how Penuel become defensive when they tell him the truth. Great respect from Benson his very smart and articulate his words properly. Penuel if you see that you are wrong just accept it and learn from it. We are love you, support and we will not disrespect you because you are human you also have faults. If you are wrong, you are wrong just accept and learn.
Wooo this conversation i wish it waa apart of. I think i commented on the other videos befre... we are struggling as a nation to devine ourselves. Our history has made us believe and conditioned to look too much on race and physical idea on what we shld be. Non racism is the ideal we wnt bt we are far frm it. Conversations like this makes us open our minds bt we need to break it down more. Labels just sucks even thgh its a reality... Great conversation...❤❤
The guest is really good (articulate). He is cool and he keeps the cool throughout. He knows his story, he is not intrusive although he holds some strong opinions. Obviously one could pick up the mutual respect (and maturity) between the brothers. Thank you guys.
That would be great to watch cause it would be interesting to see where the intellectual Standard and opinions of a regular south african would be,and what answers they would give to your kind of questions.
Oh my gosh, I thought the explanation about Zuluness, Zulu language, Zulu nation was really good but the final point about sell out to sell out was epic! This part was really funny and "sell out" was explicated in a way I have not heard before. I am still laughing from that part!
and in the new South Africa we have to criminalise obesity as well. When kids see less obese people around them they will be less inclined to becoming overweight. We have to kill that toxic culture of obesity because it also affects the mind. We need discipline.
Great Chat If I was to be president for a term I agree with the interviewee that is starts with self. but I want to take it further by taking the next step of taking the communities we live in and start creating our own self run communities that are dependable and self funded and self protected and self sustainable. I can elaborate.
some of the things they regard as they wishes or plan for a better country are already there, like your point also, there Metros like durban and gauteng , that they run themselves, they are self funded and self sustainable but it jus doesnt work, even if they are gorven by different political party for instance guateng metro is runed by DA but still, some thing dont change
Thanks for the chat. I have some thinking around a voting system that would achieve the effect of “retailising the vote” and I’m super curious what you’d think of it. I’m a strategist by trade, with some strong policy prescriptions and observations, so at the very least it would make for an entertaining back and forth. How do I get in touch?
i think Penual has touch on kingdom in some of the episode, that kingdom must be earned, like if today i wanna be king i must conquer nations, or tribe as it happed in the past, but politics has played a significant role in what i can call " kingdom imperialism" the system in place makes impossible to conquer and rule a tribe or community
To make South Africa great again, you first have to take black your land and wealth, back into your hands, and the only way you are going to make South Africa great for your people and land.
Great conversation. democracy is not the problem, our problem is that we lack vision, Mandela tried to instill democracy, and this is a long term project. The leaders that followed Mandela, Mbeki, Zuma and Ramaphosa, Zuma tried, they needed to take beacon from Mandela, refine and perfect it. Our government was designed to serve minority, and after 1994 we managed to expand it a little bit. The current generation needs to capacitate the Ward level to enable it to have the capacity to engage in local matters effectively, and have the means to address them. The current system is over burdened, and power holders are burden with too much responsibility, and this makes the system susceptible to corruption and manipulation. I have synthesized quite a lot, but democracy is a way forward, we just need to embrace it and support it with spirit of ubuntu, but that will start with capacitating the lower levels of government, and have these spheres more independent from national government in terms of administration, planning and decision making whilst indirectly fostering democracy.
absolutely true my leader , to add on that, i think the political moral standards have drastically dropped, becouse law alone can not be the instrument to our politics but also principles and moral standards, i think we lack to much on that that why we cannot even hold the nearest leading person accountable. as a country we need to fix moral and have principles.
My question to the Black Pen is does he think if we all as black people sell out will that not make us fit in the systems in place and take us out of poverty bcz to me it seems like as black people can not work together to build a system that will empower the future generation we always compwting and taking eachother out if you in a high possision e.g political killings is one of the biggest pepertuaters for the high crime in SA
obviously the current system in place is of sellout, thats contemporaly as a country we dont have a collective mandate, as to where do we wanna see the country in 5 or 10 years, so its a man for himself kind of a situation, which is a capitalist mindset and sellouts mindset
Great show 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾Penuel and Penson. I wanted to contribute on the issue of Penuel saying he is no longer Zulu but still benefits from the nation/language . The first time I commented on Penuels channel ,Penuel addressed me with my clan name. That is a sign of deep respect of which Zulu people give to each other. It’s is you saying I see you and your ancestors & I respect you. People of other tribes don’t know my clan name and I have Caucasian friends who never use my clan name on me, because they don’t know it. I was somehow surprised as to why do you still want to offer that deep respect to someone using their indigenous language when you no longer identify with their language/nation. You therefore still benefit from being Zulu by using the language as a tool to foster deep connections with Zulu people , but you turn around and say you are no longer part of the nation. Sounds like manipulation to me, maybe confusion? 😊
A clan name is no different to referencing a town or a school you went to. My knowledge of a clan name does not mean I acknowledge your ancestors... it just means I know something more about your surname than the next person. It's not as deep as you believe it is, for 90% of ppl... it's more of a gimmick.
@maxwell mabuza I’m not South African because that term was created by a devil worshipping coloniser I’m Zulu and black and I love all tribes infact if you take an ancestry dna test the dna says we are South eastern bantu and Khoisan and all parts of Africa and some of us have Arab dna to cz we came from North Africa
I am also not happy with Penuel dumping the Zulu Kingdom or....... But I was impressed by the attitude /respect of his young brother especially in responding when Penuel appeared to be emotional about his stance on KZN or Zulu. However, we should appropriate the maturity and love for one another of these siblings.❤
Imagine having an informative discussion with your elder SIBLING without disrespecting each other despite the difference in opinions. Penuel and Penson bravo. Love from Zambia 🇿🇲🇿🇲🇿🇲
Thank you for all the love and support Benjamin.
S.O to you Benjamin . Yes the conversation was beautiful but some aspects of talking to your sibling kept on showing themselves. Penson my brother but with all due respect 🫡 please consider reviewing your communication skills . Pauses to let the question sink in , paraphrasing what they said to further understand the question and trying as much as possible to not interject while they are still speaking . Other wises you have a brilliant head on your shoulders and I very much agree with your proposed method of voting ✅
Great chat with the "sell out". Thank you for having me guys. I love the chats and appreciate everything you gents do!
Thank you for coming, can you please go or ask Your brother to organize a 'conversation' with Nkululeko Nkewu's show, we need to hear more from you
I like how you shared your to thoughts to your brother regarding him leaving the zulu nation. You are a honest opinionator.
@@mzamonyaqela3915 that would be awesome! Let me chat to him.
@@Beatbanguni we have similar views on many things, but also disagree with many things too. But I respect the fact that he has different views from me.
Great chat indeed, thank you very much guys. lol Your brother @GodPenuel is right though, about you NOT becoming a King and I'm not saying is impossible, however (and I think) for any Zulu man that's not from the "Zulu" Royal Family by blood if they want to become King, they have to battle and prevail the current Zulu nation just like before or akere For DA to gorven the country they have to have enough numbers to win the elections, they don't just decide that they want to rule and take over from ANC, they have to fight through demcratic way and If you study the Kingdom concepts unfortunately you will see that there's no democracy in the Kingdom, you don't vote.... kumele siye empini.
The Penuel Show with Penson Mlotshwa
Timestamps
00:00 - Intro
00:05 - Selling out
- What is selling out
05:10 - What is the black cause
09:20 - Skin & race
11:00 - What people should focus on
13:35 - Black struggle
15:40 - Universal identity
17:40 - South African politics
20:05 - What I'd change as president
28:50 - Social media
31:20 - Health
34:30 - Achieving my goals as president
40:40 - Which voting system is better
42:30 - Scrapping the political system
46:20 - Political education
48:15 - Social problems
51:25 - Social welfare
54:20 - View on monarchs
58:15 - Are politicians better than monarchs
1:01:15 - UK kingdom
1:05:30 - Earned leadership
1:12:20 - Leaving the Zulu tribe
1:22:50 - Plans for the kids
1:25:35 - ENDS
Thank you 🙏
I am asking myself a lot of questions about the Mlotshwa family. Just watching these two engage gives me an indication that their parents provided and supported for an environment of learning.
My mother did the heavy lifting. What both of them gave us, though, are great genes and levels of freedom that other kids don't even know exist.
I like watching people who look like me talk openly about things I think about...Self development is so important to the progress of the masses. What influences our culture as a nation...thank you gentleman
Hi there guys.. I'm a Mom watch you from Vancouver, Canada 🇨🇦.
I'm truly proud of you my Sons.
This conversation makes me proud to be South African...eager to take part to make South Africa great again.
Thank you so much guys 👏👏
Siyabonga Mama 🙏🏽❤️
Same here sis
@@godpenuel But how do we achieve that? You once mentioned that you joined afriforum, why can't we have that for black people...stokvel set-up kinda of vibez
Hawema Penson is the most beautiful human I have ever seen 😍
Never!!! I am here
I am loving the fact that two brothers have a fruitful conversation with people for the people.
Thank you for the support Charlie.
I saw it !!
The resemblance, not just looks...
One of the best podcasts ( The Penuel Show ) we have in RSA, great content indeed.....
This is how brothers/siblings should talk to each other. Thanks gents for this
My mondays are that much better when I see god Penuel.
6 minutes in, and easily my second favorite episode (after episode 1).
Shout out Thabang!!! Thank you so much for the support!
Reminds me of Nassim Taleb's quote.
“I am, at the Fed level, libertarian;
at the state level, Republican;
at the local level, Democrat;
and at the family and friends level, a socialist.
If that saying doesn’t convince you of the fatuousness of left vs. right labels, nothing will.”
This episode should be aired on national television.
Three's no need those platforms are not about free speech
I disagree so much with Penuel but I enjoy this podcast cause it reveal alot about what I believe in, keep up the good work Pen. You keep me engaged on alot of things
I'm glad to join you brother Penuel! This my second home from podcast and chill🤝
Thanks Penson Mandela is no sellout just that people are now riding the wave of populism so they can be viewed as relevant
It must be illegal to both look this gorg, and be this brilliant. Your mother is a blessed woman!
Keep em coming 'Sell Out' can't wait for another Monday
A competency based voting system is so intriguing! Especially because it considers public interest where relevant knowledge is extremely important. The same barrier to entry, with the addition of an age cap, should be implemented for politicians to assume influential, high ranking positions.
This is really dope ..just before I even get deeper into the meat of the conversation,just seeing the two brothers sitting at a table together with so much respect for each other ,that alone is too much …big ups Pen ..🙌👊🏽
Was about to ask if this was his brother because.
I couldn't differentiate between when Pen is the one talking or the brother.
Beautiful to watch, interesting interaction, big up to the brotherhood and, being echoes of self development and accountability. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Wow you guys, you even sound alike.👌👌👌🔥
so happy to have "discovered" you man... and to see that your boet is just as thoughtful is fantastic
Biko said it, when consciousness becomes privilege, literacy belongs to capital: they will dictate how and what to educate the masses with. Mentally enslaved, will forever be physically enslaved. Aluta Continua✊🏽
@maxwell mabuza fully agree it shows the lack of interest to truly liberate especially looking at your example
I really enjoyed this conversation thank you gents
Always Good having To Penson on this platform
Brilliant man. Penuel, love your show. Double pashasa!
Spot on, well said bro, the majority of our people are just that ( Totally Uninformed ), tragically.
This is the reason we blindly follow opportunists and manipulative politicians.
As an optimist, I live in the hope that the long awaited awakening has begun.
In a Non-racialist society, we cannot continue to live within the constraints of race.
South Africa, is the best country on the continent, we have it all, we just haven't worked out how to harness the best of us.
I was looking for a South African male look for my book, I have found it! Never mind what they are talking about!
Listen sis, I was here first 😂
No man I thought Penuel nguye omhle kanti Noooo the brother is the actual flame😍samthandi uPenson and he articulates himself so beautifully😍😍😍
Crush yam la Penson big time! Andazi sizokwenza njani nomntu wami🤣🤣🤣
@@yolisamsimango2708 just saw he has his own channel naye let me go camp phaya kwa baby and watch his videos 😍
Oh wow! I'm blushing 😄
Thank you ❤️
Penson is really handsome😊😊.
@@pensonmlotshwaYou are handsome 😊.
Engaging conversation. Really enjoyed this
I have watched most of your chat, but Penson got me subscribed. Great conversions.
Mlotshwa Brothers, interesting discussion and very informative..👌🏽👊🏽
It’s Pensin calling Pen GodPen and laughing. I’m already intrigued
I always enjoy the convo of these brothers. Penson has a great mind, and he appears genuine, it’s not rehearsed it’s what he believes in. I love guns like you btw and thank goodness for white money they’ll fight for the us in courts against the father who wants to disarm us, yet they can’t even protect firearms at Police stations or military bases.
the reason why i dont have an ANC memebrship is cos most of my friends who are in the ANC always said join the party bra u will eat good only one person asked me to join cos he thinks i could do good but the problem is that there is no good in the ANC left
Great conversations👌 you have on this channel!!!
Please get Andrew Tate... 😂
Penson 👌🏾I agree with your views 👏🏾
Pen I would like you to read "The Network State" written by Balaji Srinivasan. He was on the Lex Fridman podcast too.
Honest Penson is describing the political system used in China to a large extent. You office yourself to become a member of the CPC. You have to succeed to be a leader. You have to run a municipality well to run a province. You also have to do something extraordinary to be in the central committee. Yes it has its flaws but it's produced the most sustained economic growth in modern history
true my leader, but if you look at how laws has been made to progress people with political structures and parliament is clear the same as what youre saying. it just that the standard has drastical dropped, procedural we are doing fine, the problem is with implentation if not substantial
@@izonjaskits4954 true hence we must judge and fire people according to their performance
Great conversations gentz. Reminds me of the mind stimulating conversations I always have with my younger bro. As a society, we must normalize the culture of holding mind building conversations around the our tables
Can you maybe one day invite. Ordinary citizens on shows to speak about how they feel and how the country can be saved by citizens and not politicians. Truth is that In all media platforms i have never seen a poor person speaking for poor people. Rich people come and speak for the poor and later go and pop shampainge bottles. There has never been any solution to any social justice. We dont wake up and decide we want to be poor.
Penuel coming for all the topics they call boring on that other show 😁
😂😂😂
Cima!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣 Bars
Love to see it
People get tired of people trying to sound smart 😴
Brotherhood right there. Ningalahlani bafana bakwaMlotshwa. And shout out to ikasi lami eMpophomeni
Really great conversation. Regarding the access to culture chat, I think the missing link was spirituality. You can speak the tongue, live with the people, and practice the traditions kodwa if amadlozi don't recognise you, that's where your access ends. Ubalulekile umnombo
Brother Pen, kindly invite Musa Mseleku on the show please, or ngizwe Mchunu
Great minds, awesome episode 👏
Penson you mind blowing!!
I found my ruling party in my scripture and prayer u will too ❤
Great show as always and i don't appreciate how Penuel become defensive when they tell him the truth. Great respect from Benson his very smart and articulate his words properly.
Penuel if you see that you are wrong just accept it and learn from it. We are love you, support and we will not disrespect you because you are human you also have faults. If you are wrong, you are wrong just accept and learn.
Hhay bo, nafana kangaka 😊😊!!!
Tuned in🤟🏾
this is too good bro panuel is free enough
Wooo this conversation i wish it waa apart of. I think i commented on the other videos befre... we are struggling as a nation to devine ourselves. Our history has made us believe and conditioned to look too much on race and physical idea on what we shld be. Non racism is the ideal we wnt bt we are far frm it. Conversations like this makes us open our minds bt we need to break it down more. Labels just sucks even thgh its a reality...
Great conversation...❤❤
Guys o love how you articulate stuff
Great conversation today guys.
I enjoyed this convo and learned a lot. Its nice to see brotherd having such a constructive convo. 😊
The guest is really good (articulate). He is cool and he keeps the cool throughout. He knows his story, he is not intrusive although he holds some strong opinions. Obviously one could pick up the mutual respect (and maturity) between the brothers. Thank you guys.
Insightful 👍
I want both of them 😍😍
Haybo 🙆🏽♂️🙆🏽♂️🙆🏽♂️
“Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people” - Socrates
This was really good!!,Penuel do you Interview reguler people cause i would love to come on,cause i really love the questions you ask!
In time, I'm going to create a space for regular folk... coz ppl have great stories to tell.
That would be great to watch cause it would be interesting to see where the intellectual Standard and opinions of a regular south african would be,and what answers they would give to your kind of questions.
Oh my gosh, I thought the explanation about Zuluness, Zulu language, Zulu nation was really good but the final point about sell out to sell out was epic! This part was really funny and "sell out" was explicated in a way I have not heard before. I am still laughing from that part!
I want to make South Africa great again
damn these gents are siblings! This was great content, big up!
and in the new South Africa we have to criminalise obesity as well. When kids see less obese people around them they will be less inclined to becoming overweight. We have to kill that toxic culture of obesity because it also affects the mind. We need discipline.
Great thought provoking chat
I am late but the sellout happened in 1955 not 1994.. the adoption of the freedom charter is the problem
Nice n these guys they look like they are brothers
Great Chat
If I was to be president for a term I agree with the interviewee that is starts with self. but I want to take it further by taking the next step of taking the communities we live in and start creating our own self run communities that are dependable and self funded and self protected and self sustainable. I can elaborate.
some of the things they regard as they wishes or plan for a better country are already there, like your point also, there Metros like durban and gauteng , that they run themselves, they are self funded and self sustainable but it jus doesnt work, even if they are gorven by different political party for instance guateng metro is runed by DA but still, some thing dont change
Ngithi nje Waze wa handsome umfowenu. Even his smile, 😊.
What a conversation 🙌🙌🙌Who's older than who vele🙆♂
Great chat gents, I hope one day you will get someone who can talk about what worked in Bophuthatswana
I am left speechless
Great episode!! Thoroughly enjoyed it!!
I agree with him on voting. Only tax payers should VOTE!
Thanks for the chat. I have some thinking around a voting system that would achieve the effect of “retailising the vote” and I’m super curious what you’d think of it. I’m a strategist by trade, with some strong policy prescriptions and observations, so at the very least it would make for an entertaining back and forth. How do I get in touch?
i think Penual has touch on kingdom in some of the episode, that kingdom must be earned, like if today i wanna be king i must conquer nations, or tribe as it happed in the past, but politics has played a significant role in what i can call " kingdom imperialism" the system in place makes impossible to conquer and rule a tribe or community
To make South Africa great again, you first have to take black your land and wealth, back into your hands, and the only way you are going to make South Africa great for your people and land.
South Africa needs a dictator, period!
The last question was hilarious but brilliant "You don't have a mandate that they could sell out from?" 😅
Funny
Akayiqedi ne interview kodwa already yhoo I love it 🤍
For me the problem began when we adopted the European systems and thought it will work for us. #Let’s build our systems
Our system?
An alternative to testing people before allowing them to vote is adding civil and political education to the curriculum.
Great conversation. democracy is not the problem, our problem is that we lack vision, Mandela tried to instill democracy, and this is a long term project. The leaders that followed Mandela, Mbeki, Zuma and Ramaphosa, Zuma tried, they needed to take beacon from Mandela, refine and perfect it. Our government was designed to serve minority, and after 1994 we managed to expand it a little bit. The current generation needs to capacitate the Ward level to enable it to have the capacity to engage in local matters effectively, and have the means to address them. The current system is over burdened, and power holders are burden with too much responsibility, and this makes the system susceptible to corruption and manipulation. I have synthesized quite a lot, but democracy is a way forward, we just need to embrace it and support it with spirit of ubuntu, but that will start with capacitating the lower levels of government, and have these spheres more independent from national government in terms of administration, planning and decision making whilst indirectly fostering democracy.
absolutely true my leader , to add on that, i think the political moral standards have drastically dropped, becouse law alone can not be the instrument to our politics but also principles and moral standards, i think we lack to much on that that why we cannot even hold the nearest leading person accountable. as a country we need to fix moral and have principles.
Please interview Dr. Lwazi Lushaba, topic should liberation movements in South Africa and our democratic dispensation.
sound and video on point
SIYABONGA
Great brains
great chat.
Heyyyy uzalile u Mama wenu vah bcz wow ni Cute Shem 🥰😁
Into entle iyanconywa bethuna
Siyabonga Thembi 🙏🏽
I like the mind Penson has.
Sanibona boMlotshwa if kukhonakala and nibona lomlayezo ngicela amagama eyncwadi enizifundile nobabili, thank you.
My question to the Black Pen is does he think if we all as black people sell out will that not make us fit in the systems in place and take us out of poverty bcz to me it seems like as black people can not work together to build a system that will empower the future generation we always compwting and taking eachother out if you in a high possision e.g political killings is one of the biggest pepertuaters for the high crime in SA
obviously the current system in place is of sellout, thats contemporaly as a country we dont have a collective mandate, as to where do we wanna see the country in 5 or 10 years, so its a man for himself kind of a situation, which is a capitalist mindset and sellouts mindset
Great question.
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God Panuel The Black Pen !!! Geez
Great show 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾Penuel and Penson. I wanted to contribute on the issue of Penuel saying he is no longer Zulu but still benefits from the nation/language . The first time I commented on Penuels channel ,Penuel addressed me with my clan name. That is a sign of deep respect of which Zulu people give to each other. It’s is you saying I see you and your ancestors & I respect you. People of other tribes don’t know my clan name and I have Caucasian friends who never use my clan name on me, because they don’t know it. I was somehow surprised as to why do you still want to offer that deep respect to someone using their indigenous language when you no longer identify with their language/nation. You therefore still benefit from being Zulu by using the language as a tool to foster deep connections with Zulu people , but you turn around and say you are no longer part of the nation. Sounds like manipulation to me, maybe confusion? 😊
A clan name is no different to referencing a town or a school you went to.
My knowledge of a clan name does not mean I acknowledge your ancestors... it just means I know something more about your surname than the next person.
It's not as deep as you believe it is, for 90% of ppl... it's more of a gimmick.
@@godpenuel you hate being black and all of your ancestors
@maxwell mabuza I’m not South African because that term was created by a devil worshipping coloniser I’m Zulu and black and I love all tribes infact if you take an ancestry dna test the dna says we are South eastern bantu and Khoisan and all parts of Africa and some of us have Arab dna to cz we came from North Africa
I am also not happy with Penuel dumping the Zulu Kingdom or....... But I was impressed by the attitude /respect of his young brother especially in responding when Penuel appeared to be emotional about his stance on KZN or Zulu.
However, we should appropriate the maturity and love for one another of these siblings.❤
Pen I'd really like to be a guest on your show 1day .