Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Stone Ocean | Episode 38 REACTION
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Should we make a video reading through comments and giving our final thoughts on part 6 and jojos as a whole? Let us know
yes that would be awesome
Yes!! Please
YES! YES! YES!
make videos reading the sbr manga
zenko 36 comment would be enough :)
Can't believe that Dio burning Jonathan's dog alive would somehow ended up resetting the whole universe
Well that's the butterfly effect in action
what!!??!?!?!?!?!? idk what show you watched but for me a horse carriage accident once upon a time in england resetted the universe ::))
@@banglawarlock3947 *_If Dio's dad wasn't an A-hole, the universe wouldn't get reset_*
@@TheyCallMeDio if Jonathan's mother didnt have the mask, the universe wouldn't be reset 😨
@@banglawarlock3947 you know what? Dio's dad being an A-hole is probably the standard of every universe because even after the reset, his counterpart is also an A-hole lol
In new universe 3, the only change is that
Pucci never existed meaning:
•Part 1 & 2 are completely unchanged since
he wasn't even born yet.
•Part 3 should be relatively unaffected since
the only important difference would be that
Dio would have never shared the Heaven Plan
with anyone else.
•Part 4 should be completely unaffected
since Pucci had no influence to speak of in
Morioh. (There is the argument that maybe
Jolyne could visited Morioh with Jotaro but
that has little evidence to support it.)
•Part 5 should be unaffected since Pucci
never met Giorno nor has any ties to
Passione.
•Part 6:
Without Pucci there wouldn't have been much
of a threat towards Jotaro's family so....
Healthier relationship with Jolyne. >
She never became a troublemaker(probably).
She never had been in a relationship with
Romeo. >
She never go sent to prison. >
She never acquired a stand. >
Jotaro was never in a coma. >
Hermes, Gwess, and the other inmates never
became stand users. >
And unfortunately, F.F. never existed.
well, is more that this universe´s joestars have been freed from Dio´s curse forerver
@@sixmanxd But Dio IS the curse, so it's Dario's curse.
Pucci came on into life of Joestars only in the beginning of part 6, so Jotaro's relation with jolyne and jolyne being a car thief should have remained same cause Jotaro only came to know about pucci when he was attacked in prison. The thing is Fate showed mercy to joestars and gave them an ideal happy life without the curse of dio
All correct, and the most important, its not the jolyne that emporio met, thats why he starts to cry and the climate changes to a raining (wr stand).
And if Puccy existence was erased from this new universe, hopefully Weather Report wasn't adopted and dating his sister 😂
Part 7 is gonna blow your minds guys, you are not ready for that masterpiece.
can’t wait for 2027
SBR fans try not to shill SBR every 5 seconds (impossible)
@@Skibbutz No one is doing that. We’re just excited you weirdo
@@Skibbutz Yeah, pretty difficult when SBR is truly a masterpiece among masterpieces.
Enough with Part 7 my god
Araki wrote this during the Y2K era, _AND_ had the world/universe 'end' in 2012, lol. I just find that really funny
If you are confused or would like an in-depth explanation about the ending of Stone Ocean, then PLEASE READ. I hope this helps :)
When Pucci dies the rest of this universe that he created using Made In Heavens complete control of gravity ability is erased along with Pucci. A new universe is created in its place, and all living things are thrown back into it, as well as the previous dead people (this happens due to Pucci no longer being able to control what is transported to the next universe because he is dead). Only Emporio truly understands what happened. Since Jolyne, Jotaro and their crew all died their souls are now placed into this "new" universe free from Pucci’s influence. They all are living happy lives. Ermes’s sister is still alive, Wether report is not a husk of his former self without his memories anymore, Anisui is dating Irene (Jolyne) and is about to mary her with Jotaros permission, and most importantly Jolyne and her father Jotaro have a loving relationship. These may not seem like our former characters but they are, in spirit. These are there souls living better lives. It’s also important to note the reasoning behind Jolyne having the new name of Irene. All of parts 1-5 still play out along with those original characters. All of the main JoJos inherit the JO in their names because they are "Fated" to fight evil because that’s part of the Joestar bloodline curse. With Pucci not existing, Jolyne has no need to fight the curse anymore as she no longer has the "Jo" in her name. She gets to live a peaceful life, and is not bound to that cursed fate anymore. And thus her name is Irene, signifying the "end" of this epic battle between good and evil.
Sadly In the end, Emporio is the only one who remembers what happened during Stone Ocean, and the journey him and his friends went on. He unknowingly sacrificed his own happiness for his friends. It’s a bittersweet ending, but an amazing one.
Did they ever mention parts 1-5 were the same?
@@Deros_ Well, the ED sequence here pretty much spells it out, to be fair there
@@Deros_ Araki has stated stated that Irene has Jolene’s "love and feelings, as they became something eternal." Since this universe is just one where Pucci doesn’t exist, it wouldn’t affect the other parts. The people who were affiliated with Pucci, and died by him before the rest were born again with better lives. Pucci stated that the dead could not be brought over because he weeded them out of the cycle. With him dying he dose not control the reset anymore, and fate would play it’s corse again simply without Pucci’s influence. Also the end credits show all of the parts up to 6, where part 6 has Irene’s life instead of Jolyne. The only thing that didn’t happen was Part 6.
Also the name Irene literally means "peace", which wasn't intentional on Araki-sensei's part but it's a nice touch.
@Gan Tz
Actually the only chapters set after Stone Ocean starts from Hot Summer Martha. The previous were set before Stone Ocean. Everything still the same, only Stone Ocean never happened.
For people confused, the universe just entered a third reset (or a runback if you want).
- The key things to note here is that Pucci's universal reset was unfinished, he needed to complete a full cycle for his new world to stick. Which means he needed to go full circle to Cape Canaveral where he activated MiH to close the loop, it's why he bargained with Emporio that he would gladly die but ONLY AFTER the Cape Canaveral event, because if he died mid-reset, this whole process cancels out and everything he did would be for nothing.
- Stone Ocean crew's souls.
Pucci said that in MiH's world, the people who died during the reset will not be brought over. Jolyne, Jotaro, Annasui, and Ermes died during that time and so their souls are gone, but replaced with different people to account for them. Hence why Discount Jotaro and Jolyne were present in the visiting room but they're not "them" shown by looking different and having different motifs (Jotaro's star is badly drawn, and Jolyne has a hornet motif rather than a butterfly).
- The universe after Pucci is defeated is largely unchanged. From what I understood of it, everything that happened from Parts 1-5 still happened, it's just mainly the Stone Ocean crew's lives that are changed because the universe had to account for their lost souls being brought back and being given better lives. So while this isn't Jolyne or Annasui or Ermes, etc. they are them symbolically, their souls are back, and that's why showing Irene's Joestar birthmark is important, it's them, even if they're different people.
What of Pucci? Well depends on how you wanna see it, some people say he's erased from the world and that's why Part 6 doesn't happen. Another thing could be that he does still exist in the world but he's not a threat anymore or his life goes on a direction that never leads him to where he was in the old universe. Maybe Perla didn't die, maybe he became a successful priest in his town, it doesn't matter.
@@gantz332 "So while this isn't Jolyne or Annasui or Ermes, etc. they are them symbolically, their souls are back, and that's why showing Irene's Joestar birthmark is important, it's them, even if they're different people."
jojos bizarre adventure stone ocean's ending is the most unexpected ending ever, not even one person expected it
The universe rest without pucci existing everyone met again because of fate everything still happened in the earlier parts but the joestar bloodline finally escaped it's curse
Pucci's goal was to have everyone live in a universe in which everyone knows their own fate, since his sister Perla died due to fate's unpredictability. What he meant by "Everything I've accomplished will be undone" was that no one would know their own fate, which is what happened when Emporio killed him, since a third universe was created where everyone he killed came back as different people and he never existed.
It's not that Perla died due to fate's unpredictability, it's that Pucci wanted people to be prepared for the future. The future brings about the good and the bad and most times people aren't ready for what happens, so Pucci's heaven is the belief that people persevere if they knew what comes next.
The irony is that Pucci himself was unprepared for his own hardships, he thought himself invincible once he defeated the Joestars and his fear of knowing Emporio escapes Cape Canaveral made him stop his own acceleration mid-process because he couldn't bear having the fear of the unknown that is Emporio, looming over him in his new world.
@@SteelBallRun1890 Much better explanation.
El iba hacer el único con libre alverio
Araki was def in his bag when he thought of this shit.
Her name is Irene (Jo -rine) because the Joestar's destiny (sono chi no sadame) is over now, the world don't need a new Jojo, Irene( Jolyne) and family are free now (Stone Free). I loved this final, so beautiful, a great final.
Fun fact: The first ever attack rush (Like Ora ora ora from Jotaro and muda muda muda from DIO) was donf by Johnathan Joestar and the last ever was Jolyne Kujo. What a wild ride it has been
Ep 38 ED credits shows that part 1-5 still happened except for Part 6 where it shows the the 2nd universe reset.
3:04 that was my reaction when I saw the Joestars in the intro! Jonathan, Joesph, Jotaro, Josuke, Giorno, and Jolyne in the intro gave me chills! It’s a call back to Jojo’s part 1,2,3,4, and 5!😨😨
I always thought the world Pucci wanted to create was related to him battling anxiety. Even the way he calms down, by counting prime numbers, is to battle anxiety. So if he knew everything that would happen in the new universe, a lot of his anxiety is taken away. Like for example, when having a panic attack, you might feel overwhelmed to the point you think you're going to have a heart attack and die. However, if you knew you won't die, due to knowing the future, you will know longer have this feeling of despair.
Pucci's plan was to give everyone the ability to know and accept their fates basically a world where you would be born knowing how you were going to die. I imagine he was driven to the viewpoint that this would be an ideal world due to what happened between him Weather and Perla.
Everything wasn't for nothing.
Basically the ending is that Pucci doesn't exist anymore in the final universe. Everyone that died in the Made In Heaven reset (Jotaro, Jolyne, Ermes, Anasui) get replaced or reincarnated into people that wouldn't get in Pucci's way. When the universe reset again when Pucci died Everyone still got reincarnated into new people but it's bittersweet because they're basically the Part 6 cast with better lives without Pucci. It's just that none of them know emporio and the real ones that he grew to know died.
So all in all, the Joestars still exist, Parts 1 to 5 still happend, Part 6 gets erased from the timeline since Pucci doesn't exist anymore and everything he did was undone. The part 6 cast get reincarnated into people with better lives but they still died which kinda makes Emporio feel whole and alone at the same time. Puccis and DIOS Heaven goal was for everyone to know their fate so they can live happy lives (their vision of heaven), but it's a bad idea because they have to kill the Joestars to do it and not everyone is gonna agree with their goal.
Part 7 to 9 of JoJo are a reboot and take place in a different continuity. So just so you aren't confused Part 6 is the end of the original story and Part 7 to 9 take place in a COMPLETELY UNRELATED Universe that has NOTHING to do with Part 6 Ireneverse.
Even with the universes resetting the new parts will blow your fucking mind especially part 7
I read the Stone Ocean manga years ago and as a huge JoJo fan, I was like WTF just happened and I felt like you guys b/c I have become so attached to the JoJo characters. But over time, I've come to appreciate the turn of events and how it ended. Araki chose to end the Joestar line and reset the Jojo universe instead of prolonging the same story of the Joestars we've experienced since Part 1. Give it some time for you guys to process this and to let it sink in. I hope you'll come out feeling differently about the ending.
I like how they roasted jotaro in the intro by showing him not being able to attack the screen after timestop
To answer the dudes question in the end, Pucchi's plan was to reset the universe, meaning he was trying to accelerate time aka accelerate the entire timeline of humanity so that when the universe reset, everyone who survived when he accelerated time would have basically lived through their lives already, and they would subconsciously know what would happen in the future of their lives in the new universe because they technically lived through it in the previous universe. Also Pucchi did die. When he died, Made In Heaven died so its ability perished so that's why that new universe opened up where it's just the same first universe that we all know except Pucchi never existed. So, part 1-5 still happened and existed and no one changed in those parts. Just the events in part 6 got changed. It's basically the same JoJo universe except if Pucchi never existed. That's why this new Jolyne is not in prison, she's with Anasui, she has better relationship with father, etc.
The ant that fell into a different universe probably fell into the steel ball run universe
Part 7 animation confirmed ?
Probably
part 7 has nothing to do with the universe reset from part 6, it's a complete reboot unrelated
It's related to the ant pucci killed before
Here's proof czcams.com/video/2qihdCl_Kkk/video.html
After one month since the release of this video, I hope you have now a different opinion about the ending based on explanations provided and the reason behind it. The more you think about the ending and revisit it, the more it makes sense
yall will love part 7 and even 8 they both take places in diff universes but part 8 is just way diff than the other parts shts gives me the hibby jibbies is just hella creepy but that what makes me love it more than the other parts and part 9 it just came out so we dont know much about it
Basically emporia killed pucci but after that created a new universe where pucci never existed part 1-5 happend but only part 6 basically never happened and the creator needed an excuse to reboot jojo so he did this and now we have part 7-9 now
Ending has me like 😭
nice job i just suprise for that ending i love jojo
The joestars still exist, idk if u read manga but sbr is universe reset Jonathan and Joseph mix, Jojolion is a reset of josuke part 4, and jodio is universe reset giorno
Part 7 trough 9 aren't related to the reset, they were just alternate versions of them, it's a reboot that only takes references to the previous world.
As others are saying, parts 1-5 should be mostly unaffected. HOWEVER.
Something else that should be noted. People who were alive when the reset happen keep their memories and experiences. Josuke, Joseph, Giorno, Koichi, Rohan, people like them are out there somewhere with all of their memories in tact.
I was split on the ending at first, but having the full context I actually like this. Puuchi is wiped from existence and so Jolyne and her friends, still drawn together by fate, all get to live happy, normal lives. Their names are different but it's them.
Also, Part 7 and beyond has nothing to do with Part 6 and before. It is Final Fantasy 2 as far as Jojo is concerned.
Like if you thought the universe reset is why part 7 happened, then how in the FUCK did you not think about the obvious contradictions there? lol
Part 7 takes place in the 1890 in the USA, NOT the 1880's in Europe.
If the Spanish came earlier and destroyed the entire astec civilization, the universe wouldn't have reset.
aztecs - mask - dio - 100 years in a coffin - heaven plan - pucci - universe reset
Welcome to....unlimited sadness.
Lo importante es lo siguiente:
- las almas de jolyne y compañía alcanzaron una madurez por eso en su vuelta al universo 3, ya no ocasionaron los problemas del universo 1 (que jotaro abandonara a su hija, que jolyne sea problemática, etc etc)
- sin embargo, irene, anakiss y compañía no son las mismas personas que conocimos o que emporio conoció, por algo se menciona con f.f cuando estaba muriendo que aunque jolyne recuperara a otra f.f., no sería la misma que conoció y que experimentó los sucesos juntos (algo que se menciona de nuevo en la parte 7, así que no vendan humo de que es final feliz, no, no lo es, es agridulce)
- el resto de partes sucede tal cual pero jolyne ya no es afectada por la maldición joestar.
Si son los mismos. Solo que no recuerdan el otro universo.
FF dice que no sería la misma porque lo crearía de otro organismo, y por tanto tendría otro alma.
@@blackcid no, no lo son, por algo irene lleva una mejor relacion con jotaro, anakiss ya no esta en prision por matar a su ex pareja, hermes parece que tiene a su hermana viva, la contraparte de jotaro llevó una relacion mejor con irene, por eso irene no es jolyne, jolyne es la que sufrio todo y conocio emporio y crearon un vinculo en prision, irene no, por eso emporio llora y todo el clima llueve, por weather report que manifiesta en el clima el sentimiento de desesperanza de emporio, emporio no llora de emocion, llora de pena. lo de f.f. era un preludio de este final, algo que tambien es mencionado en SBR, no tapen el sol con un dedo.
Pucci reset the world to help Dio reach heaven but it goes other way well if pucci alive he already help Dio be over heaven
The original universe is over.
No it's the same, just the events of part 6 are undone and they all meet under different circumstances
Part 7-9 is a completely different continuity and has nothing to do with the universe reset. The reset is purely to indicate at definitive end to the old 1-6 continuity.
Enter mthfcking Rohan Kishibe!😂
* high-fives *
They not ready for part 7
Not to detract from your emotions, but you are missing the forest for the trees imo. Also a bit late for this comment but here are my thoughts regardless. And again, this is just my opinion:
Pucci’s motivation was to restart the universe so everyone could understand their future before it happened and prepare. To him, this is not only ideal but necessary. After the traumatic event in the past that led Pucci to seek DIO (The terrible incident with his sister having an unintended incestous relationship with Weather, and then the horrifying KKK lynching that let to the sister dying), Pucci got to the conclusion that if he had known from the beginning, he could’ve stopped all of that.
So that’s his drive now: To make everyone alive experience the rebirth of the universe so they know what’s going to happen in advance once they “restart”. To him, there can be no pain because you already know what’s coming. That is the ideal version of heaven to him and DIO.
Now, the ending: Even though I agree it’s sad that “version” of the crew is gone, I don’t understand the people that say this ending makes everything mean nothing.
The whole point of this restart is to give everyone a happy ending. The entire group is alive even though they died previously, so we can infer everyone has come back. Not only that, their lives now that they aren’t influenced by DIO, Pucci and/ or the Joestar curse; are much better. We can see this mainly with Jolyne and Anasui, who now go by Irene (hey, no more Joestar curse! Also she has a healthy relationship with Jotaro) and Anakiss (was that his name? I forgot ngl. He got his wish of being with Jolyne and also get out of jail).
But this ending doesn’t come from nowhere, it’s *earned* thanks to the the culmination of everyone’s trust and memories.
Thanks to the sacrifice of everyone and Emporio they were able to change their fate. Heck, it was literally a string of trust that led to what can be interpreted as a happy ending for every character (even those in parts 1-5) Anasui sacrifices himself -> which in turn makes Jotaro be able to save Jolyne -> which leads to Jolyne sacrificing herself to save Emporio -> And concludes with Emporio using the will of Weather to defeat Pucci and give everyone the ending they could’ve never attained in their original stories. And it happens because Emporio *remembers* them despite the crew no longer existing anymore. Heck, Weather’s stand is what kills Pucci even though, again, Weather no longer exists.
Like I’m sorry, if that “meant nothing”, I have to wholeheartedly disagree. It’s literally thanks to everyone’s sacrifice and their previous existence that we got this. And it’s sad and bittersweet, yeah, but it’s not meaningless. It’s earned and full of meaning.
This is very insightful, thank you! We made an update video discussing the ending in further detail, we will continue to create content surrounding jojos, so our opinions will naturally change over time.
part 1 through 5 was unchanged but part 6 jotaro had a better relastionship with jolyne
Only part 6 didn't happend. The other parts were the same, thats what the ending is showing us
The Joestars are done!
Or are they? 😉
you are awesome
This new universe is not the same universe as part 7 and 8
And 9
;)
Wow what insane reactions. 😐
Pucci was too much for them