(TAS) Punch-Out!! (Wii) - Contender Super Macho Man (dodgeless)
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- čas přidán 14. 01. 2019
- (You should probably read this if you'd like to know what on earth's going on in this fight)
Recently there's been quite a bit of buzz about defeating the wii punch out boxers without having to dodge. Without being touched upon much at all since 2009, a video created by / @skipthetutorial
( • Can You Beat Punch Out... ) reignited interest in some members of the community. The conclusions drawn back then were that three of the game's fights were impossible to beat without dodging (Contender Super Macho Man, TD Soda Popinski and TD Super Macho Man). Zallard1 recently destroyed TD Soda Popinski using a strategy developed by both him, McHazard and myself, bringing us down to two "impossible fights".
That's where this fight comes in. I'll say it right here, I can't see a human accomplishing this. I'll get into why throughout but the execution just appears too challenging for large parts of this fight.
Getting into the fight itself, Little Mac has to use the headgear he receives for losing 100 times in the career mode. This both reduces damage from most attacks significantly and only results in you losing one heart from your stamina meter if you're hit as opposed to three, which is crucial.
I also don't believe this fight is possible to win by KO or TKO: a decision victory is the only way we can take down Super Macho Man as far as I can see.
Finally, whenever you see Mac throwing punches that Macho blocks, what's effectively happening is you're stopping Macho from throwing an attack right before he begins his windup. Every one of these is frame perfect. Maybe a human could get a few of these in a fight, but nowhere near the entire thing.
Round 1 actually begins the fight fairly straightforward. You have a pretty decent room for error, and those frame perfect move cancels aren't required this early on. The point of this round is to get Macho's health low with a star in hand as the bell rings.
Round 2 brings us to what makes this fight impossible for non TAS. The sheer amount of frame perfect inputs here is staggering. There's also a point in here where you're only left with one heart, meaning there's barely any room for error with the headgear and none without it. It is possible to do more damage with the time we have left at the end, we can't deplete his health entirely though. Therefore, it's best to hold off until round 3 when Mac's hearts have regenerated.
Round 3 is probably what I'd consider barely possible for a human to pull off on their own. Only about four of the frame perfect punches are actually required here so it wouldn't be unthinkable to pull off like round 2. With Macho and Mac tied for knockdowns, the only thing to do is get his health down so that we can win by decision. The best way to do this is to earn another star like normal.
However, you'll notice that stars are very rare this late into his pattern, which is why we couldn't damage him enough at the end of round 2. If this were a normal fight, we'd have no chance even with the headgear. Macho would be able to knock us down a third time and take his decision victory, so we have to break the game a bit.
You may recall from an old glitch video ( • Video ) that it's possible to freeze TD Super Macho Man by intercepting his triple clothesline attack with a star punch. It just so turns out that we can also freeze him here, we just have to do it a bit differently. Right after I use the final star, you'll notice I punch him twice: one of these is to cancel his super long wind up animation and the other is to cancel the spins themselves. With Macho frozen and Mac in the lead, all that's left to do is sit back and enjoy the victory lap as we score the decision victory.
So there we have it, every contender fight in Punch-Out!! (Wii) can technically be beaten dodgeless (even if you have to get really creative to pull some of it off). This means the only fight in the entire game that's unknown whether or not it can be beaten without dodging is TD Super Macho Man. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
![Punch-Out!! (Wii) - Contender Mode Speedrun [8:02.39] (FWR)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZLHV0ZcMsh4/mqdefault.jpg)
![Super Punch-Out!! - Former World Record Speedrun [2:36.53]](/img/n.gif)
To beat Macho Man without dodging, you literally have to
CRUNCH
TIME
until you get a star opportunity.
200th like
Then you
PHOTO
OPT
um i don’t get it
@@_firstbloodzero_7567 big woooosh
@@PuffyBuffy25 PHOTO OPERATE SURGERY FOR SUPER MACHO MAN
*99% crunch time*
*1% YOU CANT AFFORD THESE SUNGLASSES*
*0% bogus released*
2% Photo op
100% *macho*
Make sure to get his good side. Oh wait, he only has good sides.
@dat boi and 100,000% *SUPER*
@dat boi and 10,000,000 Fs to pay respects
“Get outta the way! It’s showtime!”
*dies immediately*
LOL
I read this as it was happening
HAAHAHAHHAH 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂they had to replace the ref twice with a clone
I'm surprised he wasn't disqualified by doing that
I like to think the win by decision is solely because macho man clocked the ref
Yeah
I think you win by decision if the third round is over
Little Mac: Is barely standing
Macho Man: Literally dancing
Referee: Little Mac wins, fuck you.
Leandro Velasquez *YA THINK?!*
@@dukyboi4310 If I remember correctly, the referee decides who wins based on the number of knockdowns (if Little Mac knocked down the opponent a total of 5 times and the opponent knocked him down 4, then Little Mac wins), and if those are tied, the health remaining in the final round.
5:52 when youre supposed to be boxing but the musics really good
6:45 *thinking*
199like
true
It feels weird hearing Super Macho Man saying his lines fully when he punches you.
Release the- bogus
@Manfreskirelease the no
"RELEASE THE-"
Me, distracted: Sayyy itttt
*gets hit* "BEAST!!"
....oh.
Crunch- DUDE?! was what I heard the most.
@Mushroom Hero Y E S
*5:51* _The most Epic Moment_
Yeah it really is ;)
The most action packed part of the video omg
He's just standing there
@@BRS8509 r/wooooooooooooosh
@@BRS8509 He's just standing there, *MENACINGLY*
6:44 Hmmm, do I give this to the guy that punched me out of the way, or do I give it to the tiny guy?
Xd
Also the ref: thee kid took on this guy 20 weight classes higher and also beat them all up at that. The weakest who I could beat and I get tossed around glass Joe is in his weight class. HE WINS.
TeamOrchid You made me laugh so hard
0/100 no bogus released
Thats in title defense
r/woooosh
25 idiots Liked Your Comment.
@Bgd Fromtheblock What?
Man these guys wooshed hard
5:52
(Mexican Stand-off theme)
Se mamo 😂😂🤣
Super macho man has to be related to disco kid in some way. Look at how both look and how they both groove to the music
@Sum Dude they both spend their time prooving in clubs and flexing they wallet as well. Not to mention both have same skin tone. I wouldnt be surprised if they were related
@@JollyRodger2667 both are sperate characters and are both not related.
Just admire the characters and not go into a whole rabbit whole of fan theories
@@Skerp129 first off its fun to come up with random shit thats gets you thinking second of all if you dont like it you dont need to comment an order like its the law of youtube. If i wanna say something that isint disrespecting anyone i should have the right to do so. Dont like it git outa here
So like school... you always want the bell to ring so u can survive
Saved by the bell
But bogus gets released by students at school.
Bogus is not released in this challenge.
So Little Mac lost 100 times, took an ass whooping each time, and on the very last time he doesn't even try to dodge and final round they just stand there looking at each other? And to make it worse it's by descision. Little Mac should no longer have ANY fans.
Dude, this little guy/mac doesnt even dodge.
He just stands there, taking hits from this guy that would knock out most people in a hit or two, and wins.
That's worth the respect.
Edit: Called Mac a kid.
He's basically Rocky Balboa
Glass Joe has fans
@@Ozionian so true. Most people dodge as Mac, but in this universe he can do this amazing and fight. He just fights these amazing fighters like bald bull, sandman, soda pop, bear hugger, king hippo, and other circuit fighters in this universe likely. He's 17 and doing this work as well. He deserves some REAL respect. He's taking hits from people 20 weight classes above him (he's a Jr flyweight) and beating them up at that, being a bearly adult at that . He's not even 18 yet and we have people like the magic 29 year old great tiger losing to him. thats IMPRESSIVE to say the LEAST.
@@Ozionian He technically IS a kid. He's 17.
*Super Macho Man stands still*
*Trainer:* What are you doing?! Crunch him, he is not dodging!
*Super Macho Man:* Don't worry, I'll intimidate him by showing him my bad side!
*Trainer:* But Macho, You only have good sides!
*Super Macho Man:* oh...
Trainer: You're such an idiot,just keep clotheslineing him
Doc: When Super Macho Man starts spinnin’, you won’t be able to dodge outta his way!
Little Mac: I’m not planning to!
Mac: Can I Just have one of your candy bars?
Doc: ha ha, When you can beat Everyone without Dodging
Mac: ok!
Doc: Wait don't
Doc: MAC!
Actually, you still can't beat everyone yet.
It is true that Super Macho Man was the final challenge of the dodgeless challenge... but there's both Title Defense and Contender mode to deal with. We still have Title Defense Macho to deal with.
Can you stop ruining the fun
@@michaelbesser5348 it's been proven possible that td smm can be beaten without dodging
@@hamadded7353 Yeah, I just saw that yesterday myself. I guess that means the entire game is beatable dodgeless now... using tool assisted means. Super Macho Man is possible using a bot that can cancel Macho's attacks frame perfectly every time, but a human really wouldn't be able to do it that perfectly. That being said, the fact that it's even theoretically possible blows my mind.
@@michaelbesser5348 YEET
What if you
Wanted to release the bogus
But God said
"C R U N C H T I M E"
Love how the entirety of round three was just Super Macho Man staring at Mac intensely as he did his idle animation
GOD TIER thumbnail.
Very exciting round 3! Good fight
_P U M P_
I T
T W I S T IT
BOGUS
Round 3 fight!
Uh round 3 fight!
ROUND3FIGHT!
FIGHT YOU TWO!
Doc: Ok lets try a little harder next time lets knock the guy out Mac: No no more doc please no more
"Alright, kid! You won by decision! Let's try harder the next time. Let's knock the guy out!"
Foreshadowing or just plain coincidence? You decide!.
Aah! AAah!! Ah!... 6:38
Argent- SZ sounds like a seagull
wow really well done..
i mean..no human is gonna ever be able to do this for a long time
still congrats though
Oh God, we still aren't sure if Title Defense Macho Man is possible, even tool assisted. That's... going to be a bad time.
For a veeeeeeery long time,(million of years very probably).
This definitely isn't feasible atm, but maybe in 5-10 years. Unless an easier stratvis found.
I didn’t even know that the headgear was in the game.
kasper yea if you get 100 losses you get it
Glass Joe gets it when you fight him again didn't you see
Mr. Snuffleupagus well yeah but I didn’t think it’d happen to the player
Guess that means you don't suck.
@@williamberends7580 its a really nice easter egg that you can get the headgear for losing 100 times like glass joe. nice touch nintendo
Great TAS, dude! I'm glad to see such a simple (& great) game being pushed to it's limits like that!
Will a TAS dodgeless run ever be made? It'd be quite interesting to see them all in action.
Well, dodgeless is attempted and is successful in all contender fights.
Hasn't a human done that?
Yes, this TAS was made to compliment that video. However, I would like to see how the other fights are played since most of the content from that other video was very focused on the World Circuit fights. It is in my interest to see a TAS with all contender fights.
You never cease to amaze me. seriously congratulations!
Great job! Thanks for putting the work in for this TAS.
There's is allot of punch out videos coming this year and I'm liking it
I’ve only been getting into punch out Wii a few weeks ago so it’s pretty cool to see the community make a resurgence all of a sudden! Let’s hope after Next Level Games finishes Luigi’s Mansion 3 that we get a new Punch Out!!
Also sad that there was 0 Bogus released
after watching skip the tutorials video, it didn't seem possible but you made it happen, good job
im so happy someone figured this out
Good job man
Nice Job my guy.
Oh so it IS possible to defeat macho man dodgeless but only by decission
A win is a win
and only by a robot
"huhhh unhhh" -Super Macho Man
nice job!
"...you won't be able to dodge outta his way!"
Yeah, no kidding.
I still cant believe we managed to do it. So many things needed to go in place and yet we did it. Its one of the best gaming moment, like barrier skip in TLoZ: Windwaker.
Not all heros wear capes. Some wear helmets so they don’t die in the ring.
I really like that you can hear the crowd boo when SMM brags or gets up, or when Mac doesn't get up. Really rooting for the underdog.
History is made
Nice to know you can still win in such conditions.
5:52 Super Macho man: *Vibin time*
Ok. Him flexing at the intro is just great
I think super macho mean just felt bad for little mac so he just decided to give up his rank. What a nice per-
* Proceeds to knock down the ref*
I like the thumbnail bro
*"Release The Bogus"*
0:27 AY AY AY AY *menancing*
Is that a MoTHerFrICkinG JoJO ReFEREncE?
Wow nice job I genuinely think you wouldn't be able to do it considering skip the tutorial said it was impossible I am genuinely impressed also we need more bogus can someone please make an entire video dedicated to bogus
The perfect TAS doesn't exi-
Now we need a 100% bogus run. (Everytime you dodge he says bogus)
*CRUNCH TIME*
You know it's kinda funny when little mac doesn't do anything and just gets punched in the face!
Somebody know how activate the tas? I wanna try this perfect frame cancel.
SMM's idle animation either looks like some type of dance or him needing to use the bathroom but he's holding it in
5:12 yes i know
5:51 long awkward silence...
2:58 Little Mac: RELEASE THE BEAST!
6:38 Wut
Aah! Aahh! Aah!
TryhardOfTries I laughed when I heard it
Yaaaahhh!
Its *crunch* time.
RIP Release the BOGUS, you will be missed.
5:10 Wasn't planning on it.
FINALLY
Omg u did it
I feel like I only love this video because of how many god damn times I saw SMM get helicoptered out after whooping my ass
2:57
Super macho man: i will ko you
Little mac:No lol
Super macho man: *Get ko in 1 second*
PD: 3:16 *TOMB*
awkward feet movement to the beat of the music for the last two minutes of the match
How many times I gotta tell you, its *CRUNCHING TIME*
This kid can take a whoopin'
..I JUST noticed, but Macho Man flexes his pecs while you're down. Just like the NES game!
So were just going to look over the fact the SMM has a necklace in a boxing ring.
The Punch Out equivalent of "The Homer They Fall".
i knew i could be possible
I really wanted to hear Crunch T--- Bogus!
The urge to dodge is strong
So. Who’s gonna be the first to do it for real?
No bogus was released during the making of this video.
Wow!
*_b o g u s_*
Super Macho Man be like: "Yes, lets photo op right before I get knocked out!"
They seriously need to make another punch out game
This looks like nothing, but it is in fact a massive achievement.
Woooow.
*HAAAGH-UUGH!*
*CRUNCH TIME!*
5:52 AI.exe has stopped working
I got the glitch where just dances around by accident 😅
When you turn purple that mostly means your gonna die to not being able to do anything that helps you
Not that it's related to dodgeless, but how do you do a quick dodge/duck?
5:51 0-0 Good Evening!
i like how the CPU absolutely stops doing anything.
WOW.
now, theres one left, wonder if td macho without dodging is actually possible
I think it is but you need two tko recoveries or something like that
@@RedLuigi235 pretty sure thats it
does the headgear a cosmetic or its a accessory to make your pain tolerance high enough/decrease damage?
yes
Oh wait, I only have good sides
The right side of his face: KILL ME
You had to use practically everything you could!
HAAAAH UHHHHHH CRUNCH TIME
PUMP IT
PHOTO- AUGH AAA
alright humankind step up