STORYTIME 2/2: How (and why) Hilda became a 1600cc Hillman Imp VTR!
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- čas přidán 16. 12. 2021
- Following on from my first video on the Hillman Imp in general, this feature-length (let's be honest) movie covers the build of Hilda itself.
Future vids will go into more technical detail, but this is the second in the 'story time' mould to bring everything from the last 10 years up to date.
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I had the stilleto fastback with vinyl roof, extra gauges and twin headlights. Rebuilt the engine which had twin strombergs, used to remove it on skateboards.
I had a standard 875cc Imp....1969... loved it...dear little car....would love another one.
Brilliant. This is the sort of stuff you don't see, or hear from many car channels. Not belittling others work but it's like the difference between reading about a restoration written for a magazine vs chatting to the bloke who did it in a pub car park somewhere. Relatable, engaging and inspiring. Thanks for doing these films.
Thanks mate, I appreciate that!
Love the longer indepth videos! Well they're all good but the more info the better for me, means I can watch it on the TV whilst eating my dinner and forget about my day for a while 👍
These videos are absolutely fantastic, thank you so much for posting. The Hillman Imp was such an underrated car and so much better than the Mini in many ways. Only a shame many concentrated on the Imp's known issues and as a result, it then proved unpopular. It was certainly more advanced more than most for its day. It even had a glass hatchback! I remember travelling in one that colour when I was very young.
Glad you enjoyed it!
What a fabulous little car. Hugely appealing.
Thoroughly enjoyed that mate. Can't wait for the next installment.
That was a really engaging video with James May vibes. Not sure I'll ever forget it passing me on that Romsey/Stockbridge road when I was in the Sprite 😁
Didn't everything pass you that day?
@@UPnDOWN probably, but it was the only time in my life I looked cool 😎
Another great video 👍 look forward to the next installment
Awesome video, fantastic car. Thanks for sharing.
Great video, Richard. Thanks very much. So informative and presented in a coherent, engaging manner.
Very welcome
What a great car, I used to drive my mothers when I was in my teens, Now in my 60s I would love to have one, Always loved the shape, Look forward to watching this project .
Great video . Looking forward to more as I have one imp under restoration as standard and another to follow as a track / high performance car
Ooooh...Imp friend!
I got my Clubman Estate inspected and re-registered when I turned it into a pickup. So the reg doc said 'Mini Clubman Pickup'. This was in the pre-IVA days. Nice roundup of the Imp.
Ah fair play, that's doing it properly. People don't realise if they'd just updated the V5 when it was converted in pre-SVA/IVA days, they'd be totally legit now.
Would you ever consider a workshop tour (via CZcams of course!). The channel has really exploded, I see JayEmm is on his way down in the “Tomato”. You deserve it - the videos are really watchable!
Thanks Tim, that's kind mate. Problem is most of the cars here aren't mine, they're customer cars. If I had all their permissions I'd be better off doing a monthly resto blog like Jay Leno (only on a marginally smaller scale) but then there's the issue of advertising certain cars that are here at the time - potentially dodgy ground, security-wise.
I've got a few more projects I haven't shown yet, anyway!
Honda VTR Firestorm. You'll fit right in at the St. Mirren supporters club. Looking forward to more on Hilda, reasons. Good IVA content, thank you.
There's more Hilda on the way...
@@UPnDOWN That was a hesitant request, I also enjoy the Citroën content one can't have it all
Very impressive stuff! Never done a project on this scale before, but have dabbled in aspects of this sort of job, and it certainly soaks up plenty of time head scratching, fabricating, testing and improving. Its nearly always a given it won't work 100% on the first try! Looking forward to further vids👍
The only downside of CZcams is that it makes everything look easy, but you're right - there is a LOT of head-scratching, trailing, testing, breaking and rebuilding!
I hate football, but I approve of your football/car connection. Unusual but perfectly logical. Now waiting for your report on that St Mirren game.
If I ever get to drive there in the Imp, I'll make a video out of it and some of the game itself!
The joy in your voice... "OHH.. MY TAP" haha. Nothing better than finding a tool you thought was gone forever!
Found you channel because I have an imp so I'm looking forward to some Imp based content 😀
Thanks! I hope to get more done on the Imp, but it may not be for a little while.
@@UPnDOWN that’s the way projects go I suppose! I’m in no hurry for imp content, I have a whole channel to catch up on 😜
I liked the LDV video, was an excellent watch!
Wow! My first owned car was a pea green Sunbeam IMP! I bought a car in parts around 1972 . Ann Arbor Mi. & was my first build I guess. I still have the manual . Fond memories of two large home HiFi speakers sitting in the back seat blasting Ironman & "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida on the eight track!
I need a wayback machine.
Great and informative video, really enjoyed the walk-around of this great little imp. The imp pulls off the Vauxhall colour better than a Vauxhall!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I wish I had the time to watch these videos through in one go because these banter videos are superb. I have no idea if they're a bother to edit but IMHO they're well worth it! If you keep them coming, that would be much appreciated
They're a PITA to edit, mostly because waffling is a nightmare to edit, but if that's the USP, then waffling it has to be!
Going back to the 1970’s deluxe could mean you got metallic paint and possibly rear mud flaps. Super posh cars got cloth, nylon covered, seats and, a rear screen de mister, and that was most manufacturers.
Excellent video, very informative and look forward to future editions to come.
Well this has metallic paint and I think it had rear mud flaps, so you might be on to something. Had vinyl seats and no rear demister, though.
In the Odyssey, Odysseus' wife Penelope is left at home for ten years, and is beset by young men wanting to marry her (and, perhaps, get the palace). "That's very nice, dears, but I've got this bit of weaving to finish first." So every day she sits at her loom, weaving, and at night she slips back and unweaves, and so keeps them waiting till Odysseus comes back and slays the lot of them. This is an allegory of the Project Car.
Very philosophical tonight, Michael!
@@UPnDOWN Oh, well, there's Fortune's wheel, and the snake Ouroboros eating its own tale, and then there are various East Asian images of constant cycles of growth and destruction. The constant fight against entropy, and rust. Car Restoration as a Guide to Life. And it's only lunch time here in New Zealand.
Big love for the Imp - my Dads first car and so much more interesting than the contemporary mini. It was so close to being a world beater - like in darts they aimed for the 20 and landed in the 1 and 5........
Brilliant story into Hilda's background and answered several questions I had...namely how did you shoe-horn the TU lump into that engine bay.....I was discussing cars with my mechanic mate yesterday evening over a beer in the pub (socially distanced of course!!). We discussed Hubnut's Chemi and how we could probably fix that as we reminisced when he fixed a very broken Daihatsu Sirion using a Citreon C1 engine (performing a short-block rebuild..long story!). We then got onto Hilda! As my step father had one...well it was a Singer Chamois (remember, pronounced "Shamwaa"!) but pictures I've seen tell a different story; it was a 1966 E-plate, was originally the single headlight and trapezoidal grille (important) that was his mums! So one day in 1982 it was being MOT'd at a local garage. He had a phone call that one of the mechanics had driven it into the back of someone(!?!?), but was repairable, don't worry we'll sort it!! However when my step-father got the car back, he had a shock as it seemed to have an Imp front........'ang-on this is a Chamois NOT an Imp...wtf!! Couldn't find any Singer bits this will have to do!! Unfortunately as he had no access to a legal team...that's how it stayed..until it was scrapped a year later and my step-father ended up with a Mk2 Escort....and that's a different story!!
Can you imagine that happening now?!
Clickbait! :-D Great video man. Intersting stuff with a lively presentation. Takes me back to my imp-owning days in the very early 1970s.
I was going to ask if the rear glass lifted as I had vague recollections of an Imp as a kid in the 70’s
Really interesting video again… top work.
This looks like real fun. I always wanted a Q car, something that looked ordinary but had serious power. I had a good friend who threw an Audio Coupe engine in the back of a ratty looking Beetle. We had some fun with that thing. It would make any so called hot hatch look pretty stupid. Good stuff.
Wouldn't say it's a Q car, but it's quicker than people expect.
Love an Imp. In about 1970 the Manor Dwelling owner of our rented flat raced an Imp with perspex windows etc. (Mike Freeman where are you now? probs dead) Late 1970's my Dad owned one, so cool with wide steel wheels, pod mirrors and bucket seats (that he swapped for some standard ones due his arse not fitting) I was very impressed. It was blighted with poor chicken wire rust repairs, baggy king pins and knackered engine. Onto to 1983 and I got a Hillman Hunter, I think that's where my allegiances lie. Good luck with the Imp, can't wait to see progress. Meanwhile I'm sort of) looking for tidy Hunter
Even flow, thoughts arrive like butterflies
It's evolution, baby
All I can think of is an imp with a helicopter engine! Thanks for that!😂👍
Very interesting, don't see many Imps around now for obvious reasons but until recently I often saw one locally to me in the Bordon/Whitehill area of Hampshire. Totally original though in worn but not rot box condition. I hope it's still on the road.
Catching up slowly. You are right about the fit of the n/s door skin - it is abysmal. However, generally she looks OK and if you don't look too carefully at the detail. About IVA / MOT. Your comments are fairly sound. I was an MOT tester and a VOSA trained Vehicle Inspector and I could fail a car with a valid MOT for CoD defects and a car with CoD defects can legitimately pass an MOT. Don't even try to think about it. It still is (and was ) nuts - the archetypal Grey Area!!!! With one hat on, the Imp's shell / structure is modified. With my MOT hat on, there is nothing affecting the 30 cm spheres around the structural points in the car. Most of the guys I know who went on to be IVA certified would look to see if the structural points of the shell were as the Manufacturer designed them and, provided the unibody remained a unibody, any additional bars or structures added were deemed as extra pieces. I personally think the cooling cutouts are ok and don't affect the structure. The cutout in the rear bulkhead I am not so sure about. Others might see it differently. Fortunately, I no longer have to examine cars for a living. I think your ideas are basically sound and within the bounds of what might be allowed.
This is ace. I almost bought a Sunbeam Stiletto a few years ago, but it was a bit too much of a project and I ended up with a Porsche 924 instead. Can't wait until you show us the engineering behind getting that engine in there...
Thanks! It'll be coming soon.
Brilliant video mate, loads of info. If i am ever rich enough to get a nice old car i will defo bring it down to you. But by then you will be a world famous youtuber and wont want to talk to us little people
Haha, I don't think I'll ever be a famous CZcamsr. I'm not sure I'd want to be! Just happy doing this.
Absolute elephant in the room the registration (and IVA) on so many builds. Not it has to be said helped by the rules being clear as mud and interpreted in different ways at different times. Nice to see someone who actually makes the effort to keep it properly legal.
Well, nobody ever mentions it (possibly a bit of a risk me mentioning it, if I'm honest, as there are lots of weirdos on't net, but being that my profession involves kit cars and IVA, I have to take it seriously.
I plan to do some more stuff where I dig deeper into what IVA is (I'm not anti-IVA in the slightest - I respect it, and I think it's our 'pass' to build project cars etc., whereas in some countries, this Imp just wouldn't be allowed, which is daft really). I see so many cars over here where the owners/builders just ignore the regs, and in a way it irritates me as this is our pass to do it - if you ignore it, they'll just take it away entirely. The rules are also as clear as mud, which doesn't help.
But yes, every effort was made to keep it legal. Despite being over 40yrs old, it's technically now not MoT-exempt (as engine transplants negate that) but thankfully it still qualifies as historic, so zero-VED/road tax. It's the only 1600cc Imp registered with the DVLA, too!
@@UPnDOWN Would losing the registration affect the car's insurance? That would be another reason for taking the regulations very seriously.
Sick hoodie. Edit: The VTR had a V-twin, which means you must now do a V2 Imp.
I like the sound of a V2 Imp!
Smart motor could have worked too. The Roadster Brabus motor did 100bhp stock & you could have freed it from the original gearbox. Nice 3 cylinder thrum too. The Bmw K series engines are good too. The 1360 motor is actually a decent choice though, they are a decent little motor. Be tempted to go for the 16v version though.
But would a SMART Brabus engine have been £300 (for the entire car?) This one's 1587cc, BTW.
Great conversion, always loved an Imp, lovely colour too. Where were the seat belts sourced from? Need some that colour for my Renault 11.
Universal Securon ones from fleabay
I do believe that if a vehicle is over 10 years old then it is virtually ,do what you like to the body ,engine swaps and so on!
I have to be honest, I think that's a myth. I've heard it a few times, but there's no mention of it in the regs. I also know of a chap who bought a Beetle-based 356 replica, and when DVLA worked out the chassis had been shortened, they invalidated his logbook and registration number with immediate effect. That was a 60s/70s vehicle.
The only cars that get 'around' the issue are cars that were submitted for alterations to their logbook in an amensty the DVSA (or VOSA, as they were known) held prior to SVA's introduction (the precursor to IVA). For example, you cut the roof off an Imp back in 1992, then notified the DVLA that it was now an open-top vehicle and had it MoT'd, you'd basically be allowed to keep it like that. But, if it shows as original on the V5C...you've had it. That's as I understand it (I've read the rules a fair few times!)
I am sure i read it somewhere officially but i cannot remember where..I had it in mind that if my Ford Transit Connect`s TDi engine destroyed itself resulting in a loss of £3500 or so i would replace and modify the van with an alternative engine & drive train.
I have done serious competition modifications to Imps in the past and at present our family owned Mk 1 Cortina ..
I will have to find the regulations and reassure myself i can still use the vehicle on the road..Perhaps all has changed since i read them some 5 years ago.
love the passion only an idiot would suggest this was clickbait.
Ha, thanks! It was suggested on the last one...
Just to add to the cooling cutout thought process. If the original metal had been slit and formed into louvres to allow air flow then the unibody would not have had any metal removed. Important in considering the level of modification in this instance. The rear bulkhead could have had a bulge formed in it and a small access hatch let into it to comply with the unibody considerations. I don't know what the current thoughts on IVA requirement levels are but, back in the day, I would have considered a bulge in an otherwise flat panel as acceptable. I would not have been happy with a bolt in box / hatch of that size without a structural calculation. That would have been my interpretation back when it was VOSA.
Long term the vents were going to be welded in place, they just haven't been yet. To be honest, they're not very effective anyway.
The rear bulkhead is a bit more involved than it appears. The bit that has been removed is a section of the single-skin parcel shelf/boot floor. At the front of that there is a member/stiffener, which is still in place, as is the one at the back. The sides of the box are steel - they're welded to the floor all the way up to the original rearmost member, just as the original panel was. The only bolt-in part is the removable top section.
In front of the opening there is an additional brace welded in, but it's all hidden underneath.
All the original mounting points are still in place. If I was asked to present it for inspection, I'd feel fairly confident it'd pass muster. :-)
@@UPnDOWN I also did rally car building and servicing back in the day, so I am well used to making the kinds of adaptions to bodywork that go on when preparing a competition car. For my sins, I also went on to be a MSA Scrutineer. I would not have had any issues passing a properly constructed and sealed engine hatch like this. Don't get me started about IVA because it was policed by many who had no engineering or automobile design backgrounds.
I did a Skoda 120 rally car replica and put holes in the luggage area front bulkhead behind the radiator along with louvres at the rear of the bonnet to aid the front radiator cooling. It worked. I know this because I got the strong smell of hot radiator coming back in the heater plenum just in front of the screen into the car all the time I drove - heater fan off or on. I think your wheel arch vents aren't in a low pressure area to aid extraction and a 30mm spoiler lip immediately in front of your boot floor extraction hole could help the flow under the car. Worth a thought?
The vents are a failed idea, yeah. I left them in as they don't seem to have any negative effects on cooling (if they were slowing down airflow to the point the rad was struggling, I'd just fill them in.)
Not sure what you mean by putting another spoiler underneath. The only thing I've been toying with is a few aero fins underneath to guide air up into the engine bay so it passes the engine to aid cooling and create higher pressure in the engine bay, which in turn *should* lower the pressure underneath the fins. I haven't done that yet as the bootlid isn't strong enough in its current state and would probably crack the paint! I was also worried about the front end going light at speed, but hopefully the front spoiler will aid that.
Caribic Blue - had a Mk3 cavalier in such. Delicious.
Very interesting Looking forward to seeing her on the road, I think its fair to say that Hilda will be a very unique Imp. So why not call her a Hilda - Brand, Very Teutonic, so I know from now on call her Hildebrand , Yep probably not a good idea.🛠
I don't think there's another Imp with a TU5 in, or certainly not that I know of.
A nice project. You have mounted motorcycle carburetors, how do you determine which motorcycle you use them?
I myself have a future project to put motorcycle carburetors on an 850cc four-cylinder.
Truth be told, it was a kit that came with the manifold. Not sure what the chokes are, but the bike they're rated for (Fireblade) puts out more than the 115bhp(ish) that this does. You can tune them by fitting adjustable needles (which this has) which I had to do, as despite the supplier saying they were ready to rock on a Saxo VTR engine...they weren't. They were miles out! It's still a teeny bit rich now, but not drastically so.
Kudos on the hoody.
Gotta say you've got a Glaswegian look about you! Was there much of a weight saving with the engine cover? Front carbon fibre is a dam - splitters are horizontal aero attachments. Off topic, is the yellow car a Noble gto or a kit car?
Great video giving proper time to explain the car. Lord knows how much actual time the video/editing took. Hilda deserves it.
Did I call it a splitter?! Spoiler! Brain fart that didn't get picked up in the edit!
Rear lid saved about 6-7kg. It's not so much weight loss as much as balancing. I hope to weigh it before long.
Yellow car is a Noble M10
Was the helicopter engine a reference to the tucker car ?
No, it just came off the top of my head (same as everything I say!)
although i agree with you in general (regarding bike engines in cars) but a Honda Goldwing 6 cylinder 1800 cc is a flat 6 boxer with oodles of torque and will propel an Imp fabulously. Quiet, smooth and grunty. Shaft drive too..
If, for any reason, I had to remove this engine, the Goldwing F6 engines would be something I'd look at. A fella in NZ is actually doing it now, I think, but the engine rotates the opposite way to what's required.
Since I built this, the BMW K-Series engine has become the most common option. That engine is much more car-like in behaviour, and it's a neat little package. I think Hilda probably would have ended up with one of those kits, if they had been available at the time, but they weren't, so we had to make everything like this.
Suitcase engined cars don’t all sound rough. I’ve got 2 (104 and LNA) and at least the 104 sounds sweet.
Exception rather than the rule, though, you have to admit?
54 minutes?! Haha, you just started talking and couldn't stop eh? Not that I'm complaining, something interesting to listen to while I'm in the van 👍
I basically made two videos-worth of content and thought "Balls to it, it's just going in one video, I'm going to be here all night otherwise!"
I want to build a triumph spitfire with a Triumph Rocket 3 engine. That one could be pretty good for any small car.
Last Spitfire I drove left me a bit...cold.
@@UPnDOWN Yeah they are evidently quite a shit car but it's a triumph engine.
Basically, a baby Binky. Kinda. Ish. I bet it would be an absolute monster on hill climbs.
How is the Ford 3-cylinder engine looking for this sort of thing? (I'm not suggesting the madness of swapping this one). I guess it might be a bit tall for applications like this, but relatively light and an interesting sound. I imagine they are still quite expensive in the scrap yards, but hopefully that will change and might well be where internal combustion engine development stops.
Also, drooling at the wedges in the background.
I think Binky is probably a fair bit more involved than this is, to be fair! This is still an Imp, just with a different engine and one or two little bits, whereas Binky isn't really a Mini anymore; It's almost a scratch-built car. Much bigger project, and I'm in total awe of it!
The Ford 3-cyl would probably be wasted in it, as overall length isn't the issue. The only benefit to having a shorter engine might be the possibility of fitting a different gearbox. 5-speeds would be very nice!
Interesting story! Did the owner of this car used to frequent the Retro Rides forum? It seems to ring a bell but can't be sure if it's the same car 😁
I'm on there, so maybe that's where you saw it. I think the previous owner might have posted on there with it, too.
Hilda should meet Binky...... one day.
With a Proclaimers soundtrack!
Only one is Scottish, though!
I had imps for years. Swapped cylinder heads, had heads planed. Built engines from scratch. Bodged cars through MOTs. The pinnacle was driving about 35 miles in front of a snow plough. Most sensible people follow them. Great cars, rust like mad, no heater. Could have been great but the quality control was rubbish. Great shame.
What's wrong with a BMW K1100 or K1200 with adaptor plate and quaife straight cut gears. 136 bhp and more torque than an imp at all revs. Sound superb too
That conversion wasn't really known about back when Hilda was being 'designed'. I think Clarke were working on it but it wasn't a package at the time (2012). Mind you, straight cut gears on the road? No ta!
I could get more power pretty easily from this, but the gearbox probably wouldn't take it
VTR1000F Firestorm in case you cared.
Thank you! I actually didn't know any more than they were 'VTR', but knew they were highly-regarded in bike circles.
@@UPnDOWN There are two other VTR's, the VTR1000 SP1 and VTR1000 SP2 but they're basically the same engine in a better chassis (for Honda to take racing). Certainly the Firestorm is the bike people would think off when you said VTR. It is a nice engine though, would probably actually work well in a car (well as well as a bike engine ever can, apart from the layout, wimpy clutch and lack of reverse!)
How the hell do you get the time to do all this work ?? Even at the stage you are now I would probably just give up L.O.L...............
Well, as it's still not done I would suggest that I don't have time to do all the work!
Pearl Jam hoodie?
Well spotted.
Seaton is in Devon. It’s where I grew up…..
Don't suppose you recognise the Imp from your time there?!
I don’t think so (1976 to 1996). A bloke down the road had am Imp, but it was a darker blue. Seaton is not far from Axminster, so good chnace that I saw it at some point in my childhood! My father-in-law has always had Imps since the 60s (currenly a Singer Chamois, and recently parted with a Husky and a Californian). I think I tweeted you a picture of a rusty Imp Police car in his garden sometime this year.
Ironically the imp Aquarius is the only Vanguards Model Imp (VA02622) that I’ve not got for him (yet). I used to have a webpage with photos of all the Imp Models I could find (including really old Corgi/Dinky ones).
Great work by the way. Love the channel.
@@AdrianColes thanks! Yeah I collect models too, got the Aquarius one a while ago. Was thinking of buying a cheap one and building a Hilda replica at some point!
Lovely video but just a quick remark to make that you’re trying to apply ‘registering a vehicle legislation’ to an already registered vehicle. Everything you mention is from the section registering a vehicle & there is no requirement to reregister an already registered vehicle.
A lot of your confusion comes from this registration section & the section that explains when applying for registration of the vehicle, the vehicle may have a reg number already it may lose this is from vehicles that have been off the road that long they are no longer on the the dvla system.
The other common misconception is type approval which was brought in around 2003 & can’t be applied to vehicles before this as there is no such thing.
It’s all to do with silhouettes. If the veh retains its silhouette good. Should you change let say an estate to a pick up the requirement is on the v5 to change body type from ‘estate’ to ‘pick up’.
Anyway hope this clears this up. 👍
If you radically modify an already registered vehicle, you LOSE the registration of it. I've seen it happen (and have had customers ring in asking what can be done, as their V5 has been taken away). What constitutes 'radically modified' is a very grey area, but safe to say if it involves suspension or subframe mounting alterations/movements, it's definitely going to be included.
The only way you won't have an issue is if the vehicle was modified before the regulations came in (1993, I believe) For example: Making a Mini mid-engined and V8-powered...in this instance, if you'd updated the V5 to 3500cc and two-seater, and the car had been MoT'd since but before 1993, you'd be OK. But as many folk don't bother updating the V5, they'd have no proof that it was carried out before that cut off date.
@@UPnDOWN I’m sorry but i believe you are wrong & I would suggest you don’t go broadcasting something you admit you don’t understand.
What you refer to is all in ‘the registering a vehicle’ section & there is no requirement to reregister an already registered vehicle. (Which is what I said above).
Admittedly it is widely misconstrued but take on board what I am saying not what you think I am saying & look above.
If you’re vehicle is already registered then there is no requirement to reregister it & the notifiable changes are contained within the v5 such as colour, engine size, type of fuel.
To continue to use an already registered vehicle on the road you then must continue to meet construction & use regulations (type approval if registered after 2003).
What you quote is from the ‘registering a vehicle section’. Vehicle is already registered.
I also note your comments about what may have happened to someone else & my suggestion would be to contact a lawyer. Read what’s there not what you think is there.
Admittedly a vehicle does have to retain its silhouettes. I.e an Imp has to look like an Imp !
Thanks.
You're the chap on the Imp pages aren't you? The one who picked fault and then wouldn't provide any evidence of his claims? Just kept insisting that I don't understand what I'm doing, or what he was saying. Well...you're either him, or his neighbour.
Regardless, I DO understand the process, thank you, and the following is correspondance found very easily online between a chap with a classic XJ6 (who chopped the roof off to make a pick-up) and what was at the time, VOSA (now DVSA):
[quote]
Thank you for notifying the Radical Alteration to your vehicle. I now write to advise you on the procedure to have the vehicle correctly registered.
As the vehicle has been radically altered by converting the monocoque body shell to a convertible, you are now required to re-register the vehicle and it will be allocated a 'Q' mark.
I have enclosed the VIN Allocation Letter, which you will find self-explanatory. Please follow the instructions given in the letter, carefully paying attention to the location of the VIN. This VIN cannot be used on any other vehicle.
Once you have had the VIN stamped into the vehicle metalwork, please contact me to arrange an inspection at Swansea Local Office. The vehicle cannot be driven to DVLA as it is not yet road legal so you will need to transport it.
When you have obtained the IVA (Individual Vehicle Type Approval/contact VOSA on 0300 123 9000), you can submit your application to DVLA at the above address.
Your Application should consist of the following:
•V55/5 Application Form (enclosed)
•V5 Registration Certificate for the altered vehicle R32 FND)
•VIN Allocation Letter (stamped/signed by garage in confirmation)
•IVA ( from VOSA / Vehicle and Operators Services Agency)
•V627/1 Built-Up Report
•Invoices/Receipts for major parts and steel used in the alteration
•Certificate of Insurance (this must show the new VIN, not R32 FND)
•Identification Documents (see INF148 enclosed)
•This letter"
[endquote]
My point is - and always has been - what constitutes 'radically altered', not whether the rule exists, or not. The term 'silouette' is mentioned nowhere in the regulations. I'd appreciate it if you could provide evidence of the legislation you are claiming exists, rather than accusing me of spreading misinformation.
@@UPnDOWN I’m only trying to help & keep on saying the same thing when I see it.
Once registered there is no need to reregister. The legislation you are trying to apply retrospectively is from the ‘registering a vehicle legislation’. There is no current requirement to reregister an already registered vehicle & that is why something that doesn’t exist cannot be provided.
In law you have to read what’s there & not what’s not there.
Notifiable changes are listed on the v5c & are typically, colour, fuel, engine size, body type. This is your legal requirement.
with hindsight kingfisher is darkerer isn't it?
Kingfisher is slightly darker, I think, yes.
They called some of the models De-Luxe because dey-luxed better than the standard cars. 😂
The designations seem to make no sense at all. On volvos for example DL was the lowest spec. (Unless there was L that I just thave never seen) IT should have been NL (No Luxe) because they had absolutely nothing. On the other hand the GLT which was basically top spec seemed to have only an AC added which was always broken anyway.
A personal preference, I would pass on putting the sticker on in place of the door mirror.
Yeah....I think you might be right. That said, it'd only be temporary as I have new doors (to be covered in a future video).
@@UPnDOWN lol collecting spare panels can become a little addictive. I currently have to rent a small shed size lockup for my spares ;-).
I think it's Ca-rib-ic blue- as in Carribbean
That would make more sense, I was just repeating what I was told. I'm intrigued now, though!
So you’re a Tangerine then?
Ha! Not really, I think Fleetwood Town are closer geographically though.
@@UPnDOWN St. Mirren's nickname is The Buddies, as people from Paisley are known.
MICRO CAR WORLD might take your little cars...
Bet you've never driven an MCA Coupe, Rich?
Nope, I had to Google what it was! Had a Fiat 126 in once that was built by Mike and Andrew Jordan. Chris Evans bought it, before one of my customers did. Scariest thing I've ever driven in the wet, it was awful compared with the Imp!
I owned one for a while and it was great fun. Designed by an Italian ex-racing driver. I think his name was Aurelio Bezzi. After MCA went bust, a company called Dash took it on and developed a convertible version.
you rambel a bit but well dune keep it up
It's kinda my thing.
Super was better than Deluxe for Hilmans. Vauxhalls had it the other way round.
Of course...just to keep us on our toes!
I really enjoy your videos! Keep’em coming! 😃👍👍
Thanks! Will do!