Ian Stewart interviewed in 1973 for the BBC's Rolling Stones Story talking about the early days, Andrew Oldham, Brian Jones leaving the Stones and Mick Taylor (and not Ronnie Wood!) joining.
Stu was a very good mate of my old man who died last week, Stu was best man at my Dad’s wedding. I grew up as a kid with Stu always around our house. He was such a lovely bloke, so down to earth, as a kid I had no idea he was connected with the Stones. I always remember him ringing the house on a Saturday and me picking up the phone and asking me for the football results. He was obviously around the world on tour and needed to know if Man U had won. It was so sad when he died so suddenly. My Dad was so upset. He died of a heart attack. My old man used to tell me that they would go out to a greasy spoon for breakfast, have a massive fry up and then when Stu had finished, the waitress would come round and he would say, “do it all over again darling” and have another breakfast! Listening to Stu on this brings back so many memories of him and my old man.
Very interesting, thank you for your input and information. PS....I've seen the Stones many times, in the early days I saw, or at least could hear, Stu onstage.
Hi there, I'm so sorry for you loss. I'm currently working on a radio documentary for my final year of university in Scotland about the life of Ian Stewart. I came across your comment about your experiences and fond memories about Ian and feel you would have some great additions to the piece if you are willing to have a chat with me. Please reply if this is something you would be interested in. Many thanks, Alice
Hi Alice - I’m so sorry, I’m not on CZcams much and have only just seen this. It’s probably too late, but if you still want to talk I would be happy to. Will keep an eye out here for your reply this time!
@@alice_elizabeth_1497 Hi Alice - I’m so sorry, I’m not on CZcams much and have only just seen this. It’s probably too late, but if you still want to talk I would be happy to. Will keep an eye out here for your reply this time!
Thanks for your comment. I always heard good things about Stu. I’ve seen The Rolling Stones several times prior to 1986 and loved his playing sitting in the corner sometimes with Ian on organ. Quite a musical treat.
“Stu didn’t have some of the habits that the others had. Stu was the kind of guy who got up at 8 o’clock in the morning if something had to be done at 8 o’clock in the morning.” Bobby Keys
RIP Stu, great to hear the man himself, he was a huge part of the Stones formation but was seemingly undermined by someone who "felt" he did not fit in, sad, but Stu remembered by many more. Still!
In a Brian's handwriting letter answering to Maureen Pettifer who ask him how the band was formed Brian clearly wrote : it was an "amalgation" of two bands. His own R&B group and Mick/Keith band "Little boy blue and the blue boys". Amalgation is not creation from one part.
In Keith Richards "Life", he says that it was Ian's apartment and around his piano that the earliest sessions happened, before they had the first gig. Brian placed the ad, but you have to cite Ian as a co-founder. Even Keef says he considers the Stones "Ian's band" because Brian would disappear at times. Its a minor point, but Stewart should be given his due.
@Methilde You act as if that letter dashed off by a drunk wnewfoundfameBrian is the grail of truth..nothing so black and white..Brian was anbass alot of the time
The speaker/interviewer is Alexis Koerner, who knew Brian Jones very well. This is a very interesting recording, and it's been a contribution to the history of the Stones to hear from Stu.
RIP Stu, and thanks for inviting me to help you set up for the Stones, meet them, invite me on stage while they played, and the great hospitality you showed everyone throughout the night. I'll never forget your kindness and your dedicated support for the Rolling Stones at all times.
This totally showed that Brian created and initiated the Stones. Then he fucked it up totally, and sabotaged the band and himself until he got the boot. But Stu remembered: The Stones was Brian's baby. Even if he could not take care of the baby or of himself anymore.
@@Methilde of course you are right on the fact It was Two groups that formed the Stones, what i mean is that It was Jones who put all that together. Bill wyman said that.
Ian was the go between, at the beginings and after Brian was more involved to find engagements. Bill wasn't the first Stones bassist so he was'nt there.
I sincerely hope the Stones realised his importance in their story and compensated him properly, and not just as one of their entourage. He was a very decent man.
“From my point of view the group started with Brian really.” Here Stu directly contradicts Keith’s assertion in his book “Life” that he (Stu) was the founder of the band. Stu also gives an honest assessment of what happened with Brian and the band. No doubt that Keith’s resentment towards Brian was justified because of some of the things Brian did (and could not) do, but Ive never understood why he has always tried to diminish Brians role during the bands formative years.
Yep ,Richards has a big hangup about him having condemned Brian about his disintegration , while he himself held the band hostage with his own drug use, and eventually steered the band into a horrible mediocre direction after 1980. Let Jagger take the reigns. He knows the band became Las Vegas cabaret . What better than blaming Jones for some of that ,while he's considered "the heart" of The Rolling Stones....which he certainly was till about 1980 .
Un gran corazón de este magnifico pianista ! un excelente ejemplo de q el ego podía ser observado y continuar en una banda que lo trato mal. Me admira la reacción de Ian Stewart al ser relegado y seguir participando en la banda. Un tremendo ser humano y pianista que tendría q buscarse material inédito y difundirlo
Stu was a natural musician, a fine human being and a very good influence on the Stones, but what's an example of his being a "stride genius"? I think of him as a modest boogie-woogie/honky-tonk player with good instincts. He doesn't seem to have been a very evolved musician. Love the guy, but how does a pianist say he won't play minor chords?
Daniela-He certainly deserves that title. I actually think he held back a little in this interview. From all I've heard Oldham was quite adamant on keeping him in the shadows (at the same time he pushed Brian aside). Ian underestimated his musical abilities. One just has to listen to his contributions to appreciate how perfectly he fit in. And yes, he was a legend that not enough people know about. RIP Ian.
cissy2cute, did you catch the part when Stu said Brian was incapable of writing and that he also said from his "point of view", meaning he wasn't there when Mick; keith and Dick Taylor had the other band, Little boy blue and the blue boys that did many of the same cover songs that the Stones later did.
This is the first time I've heard Stu's voice and his explanation of things. Interesting. I'm surprised to hear that he sounds so mild- mannered. From the way Bill and Keith spoke about him, I got the impression he was a rather coarse, bawdy individual. All the Stones give Ian credit for keeping them from getting too full of themselves by being the harshest critic of their musical efforts when he thought they screwing around too much.
Robert Cross he was a straight shooter the knew them in their early days the man that couldn't be eased out. Logistician Road manager side piano player conscience of the band. His saying was before they went on get on my little Showers of s***. He was very soft-spoken Ian mclaggan said he was very clenched jawed when speaking. It's funny he has a more Timeless look with his golf shirts and it short hair. I often thought if he had lived they would have asked him to join after Wyman quit. Stu was something unaffected by their world's greatest band status
I met Ian Stuart when I played bass for a band called diz and the doorman we played New Orleans based music professor longhair and thé like ,,, we had a horns C and the band did quite well in London . Anyway Ian was a big fan and he bought The Rolling Stones mobile studio to a couple of gigs in Camden .
The Stones loved Ian and every way shape and form and thats why they kept him on all these years,,,,they were mates to the end,,read the facts and discourse,,,,,
“I never got any credit in this band.” Join the club Stu. Mick and Keith never gave anyone credit. Not Brian. Not you. Not Bill. Not Taylor. Not Woodie. Mick and Keith have benefitted at all of your expenses. Nice that he gave Brian credit. Especially his guitar playing. Most importantly for starting the band and hiring Mick and Keith.
In more recent years Keith has gone out of his way to say that he considers the stones to be Stu's band. That said, it's definitely true that credit has never been fairly given.
They did request to include his name in the RocknRoll Hall Of Fame. He was not really a good piano player, he did not like how the band was managed, he liked to be a neatly dressed person, and he was older than the others. What should he have done in this group other than what he did? You are strraaaange people.
Richards said as much in his autobiography. I nearly fell out of my chair when I read that. I expected the stories of Brian being not a nice guy and beating up on women but I didn't expect Richards to be so blatant of denying that Brian started the group.
I 'love' the revisionist 'historians' who choose to bemoan Jagger/ Richard's, what they did/ didn't do etc; maybe these same 'historians' are oblivious to who actually wrote the tunes....?
He gave me my first guitar, the red fender bronco in "I know its only..." He also told me to stop listening to Kizz and listen to the Stones instead when I was about 12, because my mum asked him to have a talk to me about the crappy bands I was listening to then. I was offended and sick and tired of my parents complaining about my musical taste, so I asked "Why?" He replied "Because one band swings and the other doesnt!" Offended I replied "Exactly!" He rolled his eyes and my mum said "Oh for gods sake!" and I walked away
04:28 "I never get any credit for doing anything in this band" At least The Rolling Stones insisted that he be inducted into The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame with the rest of them. It probably wouldn't have happened if Ian Stewart was alive, though, honestly. Although now I am wondering if Brian Jones was inducted with them too
Keef always insists that Stu founded the band. But here's the man himself saying that Brian formed the Stones (and Bill Wyman says the same). Richards has a problem with acknowledging and crediting Brian Jones, even after all these years... Great to hear Stu speak, and a great story about Ronnie Lane and the (Small) Faces. Would have been great if the Stones had got Steve Marriott, but Mick Jagger would never have stood for that...
@americanbeauty dallas Anita was a Druggie Slag,it was Brian who met her first. Brian reacted Badly when Keith got in there.In reality he should of put it on Keith,kick his Ass.But he Bottled it ! Brian was a Pussy LOL
Jones WAS capable of writing.He wrote the soundtrack for a degree of murder.A film starring pallenburg.His contributions to songs like under my thumb,little red rooster,lady jane,paint it black,no expectations make those songs and he and Wyman wrote the main riff for jumping jack flash but weren't credited.History is written by the victors.Jones could play anything and after he left the Stones were never the same or as interesting musically.
Bill Wyman said once in an interview, that Brian helped with the arrangements not with songwriting. I think he should know he was there. And Marianne Faithfull said about Ruby Tuesday, that Brian in his state was not able of writing. He needed someone else; Keith. And that some people don't like the Stones after Jones was gone, is just a personal opinion. In my opinion the Stones raised to a level they never would have reached with Jones as a leader. After 76 they declined, but so did the Who or the Kinks, Bob Dylan etc. But that is just my opinion.
@@rojan4018 his sitar part in paint it black wasn't written by Mick or keith. That's a significant part of the song! That's more than an arrangement! Definitely shouldve been credited for writing that part!!
Well there you have it from the most respected member of the stones,, and what he said about Brian is the truth,, he did want to leave the band and he self destructed by his own hand
so, if he calls Brian, and they get together at his "flat" and play his piano and then later find the other guys, he isn't a founder? I don't think that's how it works. He and Brian co-founded the Stones.
Yes that was Sam Cutler who was asking for a doctor not not Ian Stewart. Ian Stewart was in the clip when they were up in San Francisco at the heliport talking to Mick about how the music hasn't started yet ... Mick was holding his pocket watch up saying it was 2 o clock with a goofy Stanley booth in the background
"Brian was incapable of writing music" there ya go people. Just another person who lends creedence to the fact that Brian was so wacked out towards the end he couldn't even play, not some conspiracy that Mick and Keith stole something from him
@@scottcarroll5739 What music? Who destroyed it? How? Why? When? Where's your proof? Brian was a very gifted musician who added some creatively interesting elements to the songs. He wasn't capable of writing music. If he had been he would have had a reason to stay in the band and would have remained an integral part for much longer. Or he would have had songs of his own to do something with after the Stones. Rewriting history is an internet disease.
"Come here, my little 3 chord wonders..." Ian was straight boogie-woogie and 12 bar blues...and with some disdain...BUT affection, too, called the Stones out when they wandered to far away from roots R&B... HENCE..."come here my little 3 chord bitches!' LMAO!
Ian Stewart was a very good piano player along with Nicky Hopkins they were the best Brian Jones was getting into the saxophone he would have loved his band today the best years were 63 to 69 everything after that was so so
They sing from the same hymn sheet when it comes to brian,i just get this gut feeling theres more to the story,either way thankyou rollings stones for all the great records and concerts
As I say above, this comes from the BBC radio doc "The Rolling Stones Story" broadcast in 1973. I made this edit using all (I think!) of Stu's contributions throughout the series.
I saw zero indication that Brian was interested in or even capable of writing songs. Mick and Keith have said how Brian might develop an idea or part of a riff . . but then couldn't push it any further towards being a useable song structure.
Nelson Robert Willis. You mean the soundtrack of "A degree of murder' ? You can find it on YT. Personally I don't think it was very good. And the movie was not a big succes. Brian was musically wel educated thanks to his parents. He could play beautiful melodies on many instruments and he could analize the structure of music. That is why he could reproduce the blues music when the Stones started as a blues cover band perfectly. But creating new songs was his weakness. I just finished reading Marianne Faithfuls biography. She describes the creation of Ruby Tuesday. Brian was one day playing on his flute some melodie. When Keith heard him, it was Keith who picked it up as something with potential. So he sat on the piano and started working on it. This led eventually to Ruby Tuesday. (lyrics by Keith; it is about an ex of him) If Keith had not hear Brian playing that tune, Ruby Tuesday would never have existed. Brian himself couldn't make that step from a nice sounding tune to a complete song. But of course Ruby Tuesday should have been a Jones/Richards composition and not a Jagger/Richards composition.
It was "You Know My Name" the 'b' side of "Let It Be" recorded in 1967 and released in 1970. "It was Brian Jones of the Stones. He turned up very, very nervous with a sax, and we said 'Oh, we thought you'd bring a guitar!' and he'd brought a sax. I invited him to the session. Absolutely definitely Brian of the Stones. Unequivocably, as they say." - Paul McCartney
What I'm hearing on my monitors are Korner's questions in my left channel and Stu's answers (fascinating stuff BTW) on the right side. I suspect you're only getting one channel in your playback.
Stu kept the boys out of trouble. Well, he tried too anyways. Early days, always booking a hotel, motel in the middle of the styx. Far away from the city. And, usually a motel located on a golf course. He never shied away from telling the boys what he thought of a particular performance. If he thot it was shit, he would tell them it was shit. I think Ian Stewart's presence kept the band grounded. Kept their egos in check if u will. BOOGIE WITH STU!
There wasn’t one. I shared a desk with Stu at ICI (shipping dept. 🧐) at Buckingham Gate and recall clearly Brian’s ad, Ian says here it was in Jazz News but I think it was actually in Melody Maker around March 1962. Stu make the call to Brian (I was on the ext listening in) and they spent 5 mins discussing the best key to play Dust my Broom (1951 Elmore (Elmo) James version). They hooked up and the rest, as they say, is history. 3 months of rehearsals mainly at The Bricklayers Arms pub in Soho followed by their debut at The Marquee 12/7/62 supporting a band pulled together by Long John Baldry. Brian was billed as Elmo Jones. It was an epic, sweaty, memorable night!
Who Could Ever Forget -- Woo hoo, woo hoo, woo hoo, woo hoo , Let's go !! Led Zepplien's Great Boogie With Stu !!!!!!!! Interesting to hear Stu's Historic POV on the formation of The Rolling Stones...
Janet Marie Williams way I see it he lucked out. What better life than playing with the greatest rock n roll band in the world yet remain completely anonymous!
Ahh Alexis Korner. Couldn’t miss that voice. It’s a voice I miss from the radio almost as much as John Peel. Great to hear Stus voice. The Stones’ should’ve quit when he died. Or at least dedicated Steel Wheels to him and quit.
Jones should have dumped the Stones in 1966 and went off and did his own thing and stayed away from the hard stuff, just think if he had lived the wonderful music that could have come from him
what wonderful music do you think Brian would have created? he did not write music and as far as I can see (and I am a big stones) fan all he did was play some basic guitar on the early stuff and some slide that really if you are a decent guitar player you can also do- i have never understood the Brian Jones fans who think he was such a great artist and instrumentalist- he really was not- if you ask me he was lucky to be in the band at all.
@@JErnst-pl5xk ....Out of curiosity I had to Google it and yes, you're partly right and so am I, but it was also a way to give collaboration credits to all the band members on certain songs according to Wikipedia. It's an interesting read.
Brian was a difficult, self-destructive personality. It’s a tragedy the way he deteriorated and died at such a young age. But Stu’s assessment seems fair. Ronnie Wood has had no trouble fitting in these last 50-odd years.
I don’t recall the source, but I’ve read that the Stones provide nothing for Stu’s family or Brian’s kids. Although it would be like the M&K persona, I’d love to know that it ain’t so.
Interested to know why the Stones should provide for Brian's kids when Brian himself did nothing for his kids. Completely abandoned all the women who gave birth to his kids, even when he started making a lot of money with the Stones. Why should they become Mick or Keith's responsibility? Sure, the Stones are wealthy, but they have kids and grandkids of their own to look after.
@@lyrebird9749 Thank you, Lyre Bird. I agree that Brian was irresponsible but, since there’s an abundance to go around, they would be the better for showing benevolence to his kids. Certainly no legal obligation, but he did give them their jobs that continue to do well for them.
@@peetyw8851 Sure, yes they've made a lot of $$. And I don't know what the financial arrangements are. I expect both Brian's estate and Stu's estate have received royalties at least. I believe Stu was paid fairly well for all the years he worked with the Stones. Never complained about it. And yes, Brian & Stu started the band. But Mick & Keith wrote the vast majority of the material. And after Andrew Oldham abandoned them, Mick essentially took over management. I think it's fair to say no one person was solely responsible for the Stones' initial success but Mick & Keith would likely have had some success with or without Brian. And he might well have had success without them. We'll never know.
@@lyrebird9749 Thank you again, Lyre Bird. By the way? I know Chuck Leavell, pianist since the 80s with the RS. He spoke very highly of Stu’s assistance in transitioning to the band, providing a boogie tip or two, etc. It’s especially great seeing some videos of both on stage. Brian’s slide guitar was an early identifier is the Stones sound. Introduced open chord tuning in associated songs and booked all the gigs leading up to and including their attracting a following. SO, there’s that, for what it’s worth. I believe that One of the reasons, along with the toll of the “life style” was failure of M&K to credit him for his part of the melody development. Anyway, the Stones were the Stones, and life ain’t fair. As you may know, along those lines perhaps, Bill made out that he got car sick if he rode in the back of the van, so he rode up front beside Stu. ‘‘twas a ruse. Good for him, with things being how they were and all. Finally, I’d like to add that I couldn’t agree more with you regarding the highly reprehensible conduct of Brian toward the mother’s and the kids. He was a bad mess.
Stu was a very good mate of my old man who died last week, Stu was best man at my Dad’s wedding. I grew up as a kid with Stu always around our house. He was such a lovely bloke, so down to earth, as a kid I had no idea he was connected with the Stones. I always remember him ringing the house on a Saturday and me picking up the phone and asking me for the football results. He was obviously around the world on tour and needed to know if Man U had won. It was so sad when he died so suddenly. My Dad was so upset. He died of a heart attack. My old man used to tell me that they would go out to a greasy spoon for breakfast, have a massive fry up and then when Stu had finished, the waitress would come round and he would say, “do it all over again darling” and have another breakfast! Listening to Stu on this brings back so many memories of him and my old man.
Very interesting, thank you for your input and information. PS....I've seen the Stones many times, in the early days I saw, or at least could hear, Stu onstage.
Hi there, I'm so sorry for you loss.
I'm currently working on a radio documentary for my final year of university in Scotland about the life of Ian Stewart. I came across your comment about your experiences and fond memories about Ian and feel you would have some great additions to the piece if you are willing to have a chat with me. Please reply if this is something you would be interested in.
Many thanks, Alice
Hi Alice - I’m so sorry, I’m not on CZcams much and have only just seen this. It’s probably too late, but if you still want to talk I would be happy to. Will keep an eye out here for your reply this time!
@@alice_elizabeth_1497 Hi Alice - I’m so sorry, I’m not on CZcams much and have only just seen this. It’s probably too late, but if you still want to talk I would be happy to. Will keep an eye out here for your reply this time!
Thanks for your comment. I always heard good things about Stu. I’ve seen The Rolling Stones several times prior to 1986 and loved his playing sitting in the corner sometimes with Ian on organ. Quite a musical treat.
“Stu didn’t have some of the habits that the others had. Stu was the kind of guy who got up at 8 o’clock in the morning if something had to be done at 8 o’clock in the morning.” Bobby Keys
Such a great quote
@Dario Maverick My educated guess is that nobody gives a flying fuck. And for your information, you don't even know how to spell.
Nevertheless, he died at 47, while Richards and Jagger are still alive after taking tons of drugs.
Really is peak irony isn’t it.
In reality Ian had terrible eating habits, which compared to drugs in the eye of society.. the irony just increases
@@erpaderpa4469 Yeah, healthy eating overcomes so much. The proof is clear.
Ian was an integral part of The Rolling Stones and the band as a whole valued him greatly
A modest, underrated chap. Ian Stewart RIP.
Wicked sense of humor too. He called them "my little three chord wonders"
RIP Stu, great to hear the man himself, he was a huge part of the Stones formation but was seemingly undermined by someone who "felt" he did not fit in, sad, but Stu remembered by many more. Still!
Well thank you Stu for promoting Mick Taylor as Brian's replacement. That was certainly a fantastic choice.
Such modesty from Stu! I thought he was a fantastic boogie woogie pianist... his playing on Down The Road Apiece is superb.
Tattyshoes... I hope you've heard ' Rocket 88' Boogie Woogie band, with Stu, Charlie & many others including Jack Bruce!
peter mills Not heard of them Pete, but thanks for the heads up... I shall definitely give them a listen!
Yup, even Stu says Brian started the band!
In a Brian's handwriting letter answering to Maureen Pettifer who ask him how the band was formed Brian clearly wrote : it was an "amalgation" of two bands. His own R&B group and Mick/Keith band "Little boy blue and the blue boys".
Amalgation is not creation from one part.
In Keith Richards "Life", he says that it was Ian's apartment and around his piano that the earliest sessions happened, before they had the first gig. Brian placed the ad, but you have to cite Ian as a co-founder. Even Keef says he considers the Stones "Ian's band" because Brian would disappear at times. Its a minor point, but Stewart should be given his due.
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You're right Ian Stewart took the major role of "go beetwen" :)
@Methilde You act as if that letter dashed off by a drunk wnewfoundfameBrian is the grail of truth..nothing so black and white..Brian was anbass alot of the time
The speaker/interviewer is Alexis Koerner, who knew Brian Jones very well. This is a very interesting recording, and it's been a contribution to the history of the Stones to hear from Stu.
@@Labuenavidasurf I wish someone could have cleaned up the audio of Stu speaking. I couldn't make heads or tails of that.
@@BenjaminCapoeman Being a non English speaker , I could follow him perfectly.
RIP Stu, and thanks for inviting me to help you set up for the Stones, meet them, invite me on stage while they played, and the great hospitality you showed everyone throughout the night. I'll never forget your kindness and your dedicated support for the Rolling Stones at all times.
Wow, amazing. When did that happen?
This is Pure GOLD.
RIP Stu he seemed very sweet and nice hope he’s doing well where he is now
Unsung hero....of the stones
Great to hear him speaking. 👍
Thank´s Ian Stewart
This totally showed that Brian created and initiated the Stones. Then he fucked it up totally, and sabotaged the band and himself until he got the boot. But Stu remembered: The Stones was Brian's baby. Even if he could not take care of the baby or of himself anymore.
You misinterpreted what Ian said.
However Brian wrote that the Stones was the amalgation of two bands, it clarified the all thing.
@@Methilde No Jones, No Stones. And that is the cold truth. Stu was pivotal too, and an Original member.
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You don't even believe what your "Idol" was writting, the letter was send to Doreen Pettifer.
@@Methilde of course you are right on the fact It was Two groups that formed the Stones, what i mean is that It was Jones who put all that together. Bill wyman said that.
Ian was the go between, at the beginings and after Brian was more involved to find engagements.
Bill wasn't the first Stones bassist so he was'nt there.
God bless you,old boy...
A piece of rare recoding of Stu
Wow really cool
RIP Ian & Brian
This is brilliant! So great!!
I sincerely hope the Stones realised his importance in their story and compensated him properly, and not just as one of their entourage. He was a very decent man.
He is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a member of the Rolling Stones, at their insistence.
He was a member of the band, both touring and recording, till the day he died, he just wasn't on the album covers
“From my point of view the group started with Brian really.” Here Stu directly contradicts Keith’s assertion in his book “Life” that he (Stu) was the founder of the band. Stu also gives an honest assessment of what happened with Brian and the band. No doubt that Keith’s resentment towards Brian was justified because of some of the things Brian did (and could not) do, but Ive never understood why he has always tried to diminish Brians role during the bands formative years.
Yep ,Richards has a big hangup about him having condemned Brian about his disintegration , while he himself held the band hostage with his own drug use, and eventually steered the band into a horrible mediocre direction after 1980. Let Jagger take the reigns. He knows the band became Las Vegas cabaret .
What better than blaming Jones for some of that ,while he's considered "the heart" of The Rolling Stones....which he certainly was till about 1980 .
Stu sounds like the kind of guy whose word you could accept as fact.
boogie with Stu!
Un gran corazón de este magnifico pianista ! un excelente ejemplo de q el ego podía ser observado y continuar en una banda que lo trato mal. Me admira la reacción de Ian Stewart al ser relegado y seguir participando en la banda. Un tremendo ser humano y pianista que tendría q buscarse material inédito y difundirlo
"And my other choice...was Ronnie Wood...he doesn't know about this, actually." (HE KNOWS NOW, STU!)
Stu we miss you
i can't imagine ..stu saying that he was a lousy piano player, he was a stride genius,
Often times great musicians don't think very highly of themselves because they have such great standards
Stu was a natural musician, a fine human being and a very good influence on the Stones, but what's an example of his being a "stride genius"? I think of him as a modest boogie-woogie/honky-tonk player with good instincts. He doesn't seem to have been a very evolved musician. Love the guy, but how does a pianist say he won't play minor chords?
That is the remark of a genius.
Wow, thanks so much for this. Mick & Keith started the Stones--yeah, right. So nice the hear the "Sixth Stone".
That is really true what you wrote,he was really the sixth Rolling Stone...He was also a Legend!!!
Daniela-He certainly deserves that title. I actually think he held back a little in this interview. From all I've heard Oldham was quite adamant on keeping him in the shadows (at the same time he pushed Brian aside). Ian underestimated his musical abilities. One just has to listen to his contributions to appreciate how perfectly he fit in. And yes, he was a legend that not enough people know about. RIP Ian.
Do u understand no english? Stu said that Brian inserated, then he and Stu go on and 3 boys of Dartford came......
cissy2cute, did you catch the part when Stu said Brian was incapable of writing and that he also said from his "point of view", meaning he wasn't there when Mick; keith and Dick Taylor had the other band, Little boy blue and the blue boys that did many of the same cover songs that the Stones later did.
Ian and Brian started The Rolling Stones..The others joined in later..
This is the first time I've heard Stu's voice and his explanation of things. Interesting. I'm surprised to hear that he sounds so mild- mannered. From the way Bill and Keith spoke about him, I got the impression he was a rather coarse, bawdy individual. All the Stones give Ian credit for keeping them from getting too full of themselves by being the harshest critic of their musical efforts when he thought they screwing around too much.
Robert Cross he was a straight shooter the knew them in their early days the man that couldn't be eased out. Logistician Road manager side piano player conscience of the band. His saying was before they went on get on my little Showers of s***. He was very soft-spoken Ian mclaggan said he was very clenched jawed when speaking. It's funny he has a more Timeless look with his golf shirts and it short hair. I often thought if he had lived they would have asked him to join after Wyman quit. Stu was something unaffected by their world's greatest band status
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This is an incredible interview, Stu the Laird of Pittenweem. No scottish burr, sounds more like an Englishman.
I met Ian Stuart when I played bass for a band called diz and the doorman we played New Orleans based music professor longhair and thé like ,,, we had a horns
C and the band did quite well in London . Anyway Ian was a big fan and he bought The Rolling Stones mobile studio to a couple of gigs in Camden .
The Stones loved Ian and every way shape and form and thats why they kept him on all these years,,,,they were mates to the end,,read the facts and discourse,,,,,
They didn't love him enough to tell Oldham to fuck off, did they?
Legend.
The first time I heard his playing was on the Let it Bleed track. I think he was a fun boogie woogie fast blues player and he under sells himself.
thank you-wonderful!
Thank you so much
“I never got any credit in this band.” Join the club Stu. Mick and Keith never gave anyone credit. Not Brian. Not you. Not Bill. Not Taylor. Not Woodie. Mick and Keith have benefitted at all of your expenses. Nice that he gave Brian credit. Especially his guitar playing. Most importantly for starting the band and hiring Mick and Keith.
In more recent years Keith has gone out of his way to say that he considers the stones to be Stu's band. That said, it's definitely true that credit has never been fairly given.
They did request to include his name in the RocknRoll Hall Of Fame.
He was not really a good piano player, he did not like how the band was managed, he liked to be a neatly dressed person, and he was older than the others. What should he have done in this group other than what he did?
You are strraaaange people.
Richards said as much in his autobiography. I nearly fell out of my chair when I read that. I expected the stories of Brian being not a nice guy and beating up on women but I didn't expect Richards to be so blatant of denying that Brian started the group.
Because Mick and Keef are greedy bastards!
I 'love' the revisionist 'historians' who choose to bemoan Jagger/ Richard's, what they did/ didn't do etc; maybe these same 'historians' are oblivious to who actually wrote the tunes....?
He gave me my first guitar, the red fender bronco in "I know its only..." He also told me to stop listening to Kizz and listen to the Stones instead when I was about 12, because my mum asked him to have a talk to me about the crappy bands I was listening to then. I was offended and sick and tired of my parents complaining about my musical taste, so I asked "Why?" He replied "Because one band swings and the other doesnt!" Offended I replied "Exactly!" He rolled his eyes and my mum said "Oh for gods sake!" and I walked away
04:28 "I never get any credit for doing anything in this band" At least The Rolling Stones insisted that he be inducted into The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame with the rest of them. It probably wouldn't have happened if Ian Stewart was alive, though, honestly. Although now I am wondering if Brian Jones was inducted with them too
Keef always insists that Stu founded the band. But here's the man himself saying that Brian formed the Stones (and Bill Wyman says the same). Richards has a problem with acknowledging and crediting Brian Jones, even after all these years... Great to hear Stu speak, and a great story about Ronnie Lane and the (Small) Faces. Would have been great if the Stones had got Steve Marriott, but Mick Jagger would never have stood for that...
Keith Richard and Mick Jagger were so jealous of Brian Jones . No Jones No Stones !
@americanbeauty dallas Anita was a Druggie Slag,it was Brian who met her first. Brian reacted Badly when Keith got in there.In reality he should of put it on Keith,kick his Ass.But he Bottled it ! Brian was a Pussy LOL
@@SuperAnimelover100 Would you say "No Jones, No Little Boy Blue and the Blue Boys"?
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Would you say get back Jack and don't ya come back, No more . Just hit the road Jack .
Brian Jones didn't die, Keith consumed his soul. Brian was Keith Richards before Keith Richards!
"It's about time lads!!!!"
Very interesting to hear.
Very interesting indeed !
Stu’s speaking voice reminds me remarkably of Gary Numan. Watch one of Gary’s recent interviews and tell me if I’m wrong.
OMG you’re totally right!
Mad respect for stew for never changing who you was never following any b******* trends
Great stuff😊👍
Great!
John Mayall said Mick Jagger called him up to ask if Mick Taylor was available.
That's what I read as well. Maybe he called Mayall up after Stewart informed him about Taylor.
Jones WAS capable of writing.He wrote the soundtrack for a degree of murder.A film starring pallenburg.His contributions to songs like under my thumb,little red rooster,lady jane,paint it black,no expectations make those songs and he and Wyman wrote the main riff for jumping jack flash but weren't credited.History is written by the victors.Jones could play anything and after he left the Stones were never the same or as interesting musically.
Bill Wyman said once in an interview, that Brian helped with the arrangements not with songwriting. I think he should know he was there. And Marianne Faithfull said about Ruby Tuesday, that Brian in his state was not able of writing. He needed someone else; Keith. And that some people don't like the Stones after Jones was gone, is just a personal opinion. In my opinion the Stones raised to a level they never would have reached with Jones as a leader.
After 76 they declined, but so did the Who or the Kinks, Bob Dylan etc.
But that is just my opinion.
Johnny Connelly Brian wasnt a songwriter.Plain and simple.
"Little Red Rooster" was an old Blues song,,Stones did NOT write it ! arranged it ? did NOT write,,,don't spew false facts
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@@rojan4018 his sitar part in paint it black wasn't written by Mick or keith. That's a significant part of the song! That's more than an arrangement! Definitely shouldve been credited for writing that part!!
Top bloke sadly missed
Well there you have it from the most respected member of the stones,, and what he said about Brian is the truth,, he did want to leave the band and he self destructed by his own hand
Stu himself confirming Brian formed the band, not Keith’s revisionist bullshit
Exactly!
so, if he calls Brian, and they get together at his "flat" and play his piano and then later find the other guys, he isn't a founder? I don't think that's how it works. He and Brian co-founded the Stones.
Seems like a nice guy...rip
he is the voice on GIMME SHELTER asking for a doctor
That was Sam Cutler The Stones announcer not Ian Stewart.
Yes that was Sam Cutler who was asking for a doctor not not Ian Stewart. Ian Stewart was in the clip when they were up in San Francisco at the heliport talking to Mick about how the music hasn't started yet ... Mick was holding his pocket watch up saying it was 2 o clock with a goofy Stanley booth in the background
"Brian was incapable of writing music" there ya go people. Just another person who lends creedence to the fact that Brian was so wacked out towards the end he couldn't even play, not some conspiracy that Mick and Keith stole something from him
Bullshit listen to a degree of murder and any stones album Brian's influence is evident. He wrote alot of music which was destroyed. Putz.
@@scottcarroll5739 hmm let's take the opinion of some random scumbag named Scott over a guy who was actually there hmmmmmmmm. Up your ass.
@@scottcarroll5739 What music? Who destroyed it? How? Why? When? Where's your proof? Brian was a very gifted musician who added some creatively interesting elements to the songs. He wasn't capable of writing music. If he had been he would have had a reason to stay in the band and would have remained an integral part for much longer. Or he would have had songs of his own to do something with after the Stones. Rewriting history is an internet disease.
@@oshawaxpress....Brian took their music in a fucked up direction. Once he was gone, they got back to blues based rock
"Come here, my little 3 chord wonders..." Ian was straight boogie-woogie and 12 bar blues...and with some disdain...BUT affection, too, called the Stones out when they wandered to far away from roots R&B... HENCE..."come here my little 3 chord bitches!' LMAO!
Ian Stewart was a very good piano player along with Nicky Hopkins they were the best Brian Jones was getting into the saxophone he would have loved his band today the best years were 63 to 69 everything after that was so so
They sing from the same hymn sheet when it comes to brian,i just get this gut feeling theres more to the story,either way thankyou rollings stones for all the great records and concerts
El siempre será otro rolling Stones ,,Stu. Mediana más. Tocar el piano manejaba la combi si. Que era otra piedra 😅 😲😅😅 rodante
"I was much older than them" well Bill was two years older than Stu...
Yes but at the beginning Bill lies about his age.
Marketing.....
the whole interview..is it anywhere on line ?
" I never liked long hair "
I'd like to hear the rest of this. Is there any more?
As I say above, this comes from the BBC radio doc "The Rolling Stones Story" broadcast in 1973. I made this edit using all (I think!) of Stu's contributions throughout the series.
Deltics , thanks much !
There you had a voice ---
my little three chord wonders
keith hated brian.. it was a territory Grab... jagger was the prize he was the golden goose.
Stu didn't have the skinny runt look.
He would have looked wrong.
Sadly.
He was a Rolling Stone though.
TRES Cool
Did Stu really say that Brian was incapable of writing (at 3:33)?
I saw zero indication that Brian was interested in or even capable of writing songs.
Mick and Keith have said how Brian might develop an idea or part of a riff . . but then couldn't push it any further towards being a useable song structure.
Nelson Robert Willis. You mean the soundtrack of "A degree of murder' ? You can find it on YT. Personally I don't think it was very good. And the movie was not a big succes. Brian was musically wel educated thanks to his parents. He could play beautiful melodies on many instruments and he could analize the structure of music. That is why he could reproduce the blues music when the Stones started as a blues cover band perfectly. But creating new songs was his weakness.
I just finished reading Marianne Faithfuls biography. She describes the creation of Ruby Tuesday.
Brian was one day playing on his flute some melodie. When Keith heard him, it was Keith who picked it up
as something with potential. So he sat on the piano and started working on it. This led eventually to Ruby Tuesday. (lyrics by Keith; it is about an ex of him)
If Keith had not hear Brian playing that tune, Ruby Tuesday would never have existed. Brian himself couldn't
make that step from a nice sounding tune to a complete song. But of course Ruby Tuesday should have been a Jones/Richards composition and not a Jagger/Richards composition.
Nelson Robert Willis
Yep. The best musician but he could not write a complete song.
@Nelson Robert Willis That has got be the most wishy-washy load of trash replies I have ever read...hahahaha
imagine the gong show of micks back then? mick roight called about tha fing.. which mick alroight? you knauow mick!?
Don't you just hate it when just in the middle of a good informative interview it gets cut short? C'MON Deltics IORR, where's the rest of it!?
Looks like Morrisey!
I wonder if Mal Evans and Stu were friends?
Interesting he says Brian played sax on a Beatles B-side, I'd always heard it was Brian Jones from Liverpool band The Undertakers ?
It was "You Know My Name" the 'b' side of "Let It Be" recorded in 1967 and released in 1970.
"It was Brian Jones of the Stones. He turned up very, very nervous with a sax, and we said 'Oh, we thought you'd bring a guitar!' and he'd brought a sax. I invited him to the session. Absolutely definitely Brian of the Stones. Unequivocably, as they say."
- Paul McCartney
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !
After the first question, there are HUGE sound gaps in this video where Stu's voice has been removed and all that's left is Alexis Korner's lead ins!
What I'm hearing on my monitors are Korner's questions in my left channel and Stu's answers (fascinating stuff BTW) on the right side.
I suspect you're only getting one channel in your playback.
who was the piano player brian didn't like? i'd love to interview him
Lost in the mists of time, I'm afraid.
@@Deltics1 ewq1
I loved stu on she was hot
The Stones still speak of Stu..they still acknowledge him as the leader of the group..
Stu kept the boys out of trouble. Well, he tried too anyways. Early days, always booking a hotel, motel in the middle of the styx. Far away from the city. And, usually a motel located on a golf course. He never shied away from telling the boys what he thought of a particular performance. If he thot it was shit, he would tell them it was shit. I think Ian Stewart's presence kept the band grounded. Kept their egos in check if u will. BOOGIE WITH STU!
Alexis Koerner sounds as if Brian was able to grow older than 27, if he had aged.
Who was the piano player they didn't like then they found Stu?
There wasn’t one.
I shared a desk with Stu at ICI (shipping dept. 🧐) at Buckingham Gate and recall clearly Brian’s ad, Ian says here it was in Jazz News but I think it was actually in Melody Maker around March 1962. Stu make the call to Brian (I was on the ext listening in) and they spent 5 mins discussing the best key to play Dust my Broom (1951 Elmore (Elmo) James version). They hooked up and the rest, as they say, is history. 3 months of rehearsals mainly at The Bricklayers Arms pub in Soho followed by their debut at The Marquee 12/7/62 supporting a band pulled together by Long John Baldry. Brian was billed as Elmo Jones. It was an epic, sweaty, memorable night!
@@MrRichardsanthony really!? that is amazing.
where's the bloody rest ?
Who Could Ever Forget -- Woo hoo, woo hoo, woo hoo, woo hoo , Let's go !! Led Zepplien's Great Boogie With Stu !!!!!!!! Interesting to hear Stu's Historic POV on the formation of The Rolling Stones...
I must be dreaming! This is the voice of Ian Stewart? This was a man born in Fifeshire in Scotland. And yet, he spoke in an English accent?
He was born in Scotland but brought up in Sutton, London.
Yup, lived in Sutton but born in Pittenweem.
JE NE CONNAISSAIS MÊME PAS LE SON DE SA VOIX DEPUIS TOUT CE TEMPS .... REPOSE EN PAIX STU .
Bam there it is f****** the group started with Brian Boy Keith Richards loves to overlook that or lie about it
To bad Stu didn't fit the image
Janet Marie Williams way I see it he lucked out. What better life than playing with the greatest rock n roll band in the world yet remain completely anonymous!
Listen to honky tonk woman and tel me this guy couldn't play!
"my little three-chord wonders..."
Ahh Alexis Korner. Couldn’t miss that voice. It’s a voice I miss from the radio almost as much as John Peel. Great to hear Stus voice. The Stones’ should’ve quit when he died. Or at least dedicated Steel Wheels to him and quit.
Why should they have 'quit ' after Stu's death ?! They all respected him enormously & there's a tribute to Stu at the end of Steel Wheels .
Apparently during the Some Girls recording sessions Stu stormed out of the studio after telling them they sounded like "Status Quo".....LOL
Wasn't wrong
Nur Stu durfte sich erlauben ihnen vor prominenten zu sagen
"...auf geht's meine drei Akkord Scheißerchen, ihr seit dran..."
(Bill Wyman)
Landed on his feet big time though, following Carson on the Tonight Show.
Stu the British Jay Leno.
Lol
Jones should have dumped the Stones in 1966 and went off and did his own thing and stayed away from the hard stuff, just think if he had lived the wonderful music that could have come from him
what wonderful music do you think Brian would have created? he did not write music and as far as I can see (and I am a big stones) fan all he did was play some basic guitar on the early stuff and some slide that really if you are a decent guitar player you can also do- i have never understood the Brian Jones fans who think he was such a great artist and instrumentalist- he really was not- if you ask me he was lucky to be in the band at all.
mrsullyrox He was an instrumentalist. And also, he was STARTING to make demos, he didn’t have them 100%, he was starting to do something.
@@mrsullyrox Who will remeber you in 50 years Asshole ? It was Brian Jones who formed the Group,what have you ever done ? Brian Jones is a Legend
@@mocheck your mom
@@mocheck Jones got lucky, that's all. A very good instrumentalist but lucked out with all the right guys answering his newspaper ad to start a band.
Nanker Phelge 😆
I think Nanker Phelge was a name Keith thought up because of some sort of a royalty thing when writing songs. Something along those lines.
@@eightinches6094 it was this hideous face Brian used to make...they called it "pulling a nanker" 🤣🤣🤣
@@JErnst-pl5xk ....Out of curiosity I had to Google it and yes, you're partly right and so am I, but it was also a way to give collaboration credits to all the band members on certain songs according to Wikipedia. It's an interesting read.
Brian was a difficult, self-destructive personality. It’s a tragedy the way he deteriorated and died at such a young age. But Stu’s assessment seems fair. Ronnie Wood has had no trouble fitting in these last 50-odd years.
Brian lost his leadership then lost his girl to another band mate than he has to see her at rehearsals. That's enough for anyone to say fuck it
I don’t recall the source, but I’ve read that the Stones provide nothing for Stu’s family or Brian’s kids. Although it would be like the M&K persona, I’d love to know that it ain’t so.
Interested to know why the Stones should provide for Brian's kids when Brian himself did nothing for his kids. Completely abandoned all the women who gave birth to his kids, even when he started making a lot of money with the Stones. Why should they become Mick or Keith's responsibility? Sure, the Stones are wealthy, but they have kids and grandkids of their own to look after.
@@lyrebird9749 Thank you, Lyre Bird. I agree that Brian was irresponsible but, since there’s an abundance to go around, they would be the better for showing benevolence to his kids. Certainly no legal obligation, but he did give them their jobs that continue to do well for them.
@@peetyw8851 Sure, yes they've made a lot of $$. And I don't know what the financial arrangements are. I expect both Brian's estate and Stu's estate have received royalties at least. I believe Stu was paid fairly well for all the years he worked with the Stones. Never complained about it.
And yes, Brian & Stu started the band. But Mick & Keith wrote the vast majority of the material. And after Andrew Oldham abandoned them, Mick essentially took over management.
I think it's fair to say no one person was solely responsible for the Stones' initial success but Mick & Keith would likely have had some success with or without Brian. And he might well have had success without them. We'll never know.
@@lyrebird9749 Thank you again, Lyre Bird. By the way? I know Chuck Leavell, pianist since the 80s with the RS. He spoke very highly of Stu’s assistance in transitioning to the band, providing a boogie tip or two, etc. It’s especially great seeing some videos of both on stage.
Brian’s slide guitar was an early identifier is the Stones sound. Introduced open chord tuning in associated songs and booked all the gigs leading up to and including their attracting a following. SO, there’s that, for what it’s worth. I believe that One of the reasons, along with the toll of the “life style” was failure of M&K to credit him for his part of the melody development. Anyway, the Stones were the Stones, and life ain’t fair. As you may know, along those lines perhaps, Bill made out that he got car sick if he rode in the back of the van, so he rode up front beside Stu. ‘‘twas a ruse. Good for him, with things being how they were and all.
Finally, I’d like to add that I couldn’t agree more with you regarding the highly reprehensible conduct of Brian toward the mother’s and the kids. He was a bad mess.
SORRY, Ms Bird! I omitted Mick Taylor’s name as the person I was referencing regarding writing credits.
A good and kind gentleman. Very boring low-energy way of speaking, though.