The results of the people's votes: Croatia 337, Israel 323, Ukraine 307, Switzerland 236, France 227, Ireland 136, Italy 104, Greece 85, Armenia 82, Lithuania 58, Sweden 49, Cyprus 44, Estonia 33, Serbia 32, Finland 31, Latvia 28, Luxemburg 20, Georgia 19, Germany 18, Portugal 13, Slovenia 12, Spain 11, Austria 5, Norway 4, United Kingdom 0. The Public has spoken!
Hi Noosh 💙 as a long-time subscriber and a true fan of your channel, I was really looking forward to your videos these past months, especially because this year's ESC season was sooooo tense and your content is usually such a joy and celebration of the songs (especially the collabs with Oz 🥰) and I needed that! I have to say I never thought you would be so disrespectful towards any of the participants, and that really broke my heart.... I am a proud Eurovision fan, and a proud Israeli. and as you were all boo'ing for Eden, we had sirens due to multiple rockets shot at us (as usual, btw...) . that painted a very grim picture in my eyes... so with respect, I've unsubscribed to your channel. probably not a great chance you will read this, but anyway I wish you and everyone in the comments lots of love, and may Eurovision be rid of the toxic hate next year... 💙🇮🇱❤️
I'm Ukrainian living in Finland and I could sign under each word you said. This season many Eurofans were the ones who broke the very idea of Eurovision and it's sad.
Mine too. I voted for him from Armenia and didn't shut up about him winning until he received his last votes. I irritated every single family member today 😆🤣
You're the ones living in a bubble. You think that people that voted for you even watched eurovision or know what eurovision is? Even your ministry admited to doing a hard advertisement campaign to get pitty votes.
Because celebrity-class are disconnected from the real world. Most of the world is conservative. They don't like watching men kissing. UK should've cooled it down with the gay stuff if they wanted votes.
You should all be ashamed of booing at Eden Golan's performance. When televote score got announced, this crowd booed. Funny to see how the Eurovision fan media bubble is living in a parallel world. 😂😂😂 I will start a podcast and/or website with a more journalistic, realistic view on #Eurovision. 💪🏻
The face when noosh realized actually the majority of the public can and wish to overlook the stupid hate towards a 20 y old singer who to sing and celebrate life.
Buddy we all knew the zionists would flood the votes with their spite-filled political agenda. The bigots don't even watch Eurovision, they just threw their money at the symbol of their terrorism.
323 points after dozens of rules broken, tons of taxpayers money pumped into social media ads, playing the victim all day long and countless occasions of outright rigging the vote. And yet, she lost to a man singing about his cat meowing back. Congratulations to this huge victory! How are the charts looking for this piece of 'art'? Seems like it's quite visible that fasc*sts had one song to choose from, decent people had 24.
I really loved song from Armenia. Very catchy and also great rhythm that is not based on the regular formula for pop songs. A unique contribution to the contest.
I'm happy with the end result, BUT. The work isn't over. We seriously need resignations, firings, reorganization in the EBU for this farce to not occur again. We fans might be upset, but it seems the most upset are the broadcasters, and if we want Ireland, Portugal etc to continue and Netherlands to come back, changes need to be made.
As a Dutchie I will never forgive them for what they did. I would be the absolute last person to want Avrotros to withdraw since I love Eurovision so much. But I am saying it now. We should withdraw. This can't be forgiven this easily.
As a Dutchman I hope we never come back, not pay a cent ever again to Eurovision or the EBU, and all the broadcast organisations cut ties with the EBU. In my 38 year old life the entire charade has been nothing else but politics and corruption from behind the scenes. There were many performances in the past that should have won, and not only from the Netherlands, but many good singers who brought songs (that became hits when the 'winners' were forgotten) and performed them beautifully both vocally and as a performance... they were just robbed. Besides, the songcontest was meant to be a reunification event through music for a post-war Europe in which all nations were torn because of hate and scorn. But I think that entire vision has been long lost and the festival should end. It is a failed project and mostly due to corruption.
Great performance by Finland 🇫🇮 I can’t believe they got such a low score, I was sure they will win. Listen up people, I know it’s cool to chant against Israel but please go check your facts.
You made me laugh. Facts ??? Naaaaa , but that’s ok, I’m just few more years they will bag Israel to release them from shahria law. They are brained wash with no real facts. Good luck Europe. We just sit here and laugh
@@justanotherfangirl9929 in the netherlands points were not given but bought, like everywhere with televotes. in the netherlands mainly israeli diaspora and right wing fanatics bought votes for israel. not a real representation of an achievement, buying votes to built self esteem
@@justanotherfangirl9929 yet the song is barely charting on global spotify. for getting the 2nd most televotes, eden is getting the 9th most streams. makes u wonder huh?
@@relativokay4 Why? Because they filmed them? Absolutely shocking harassment. You are such a hypocrite! A whole group of artists united just to remove eden from the competition, wrote a letter against her, encouraged fans to hate her, treated her like she was a leper, bullied her at a press conference, cried when she made it to the finals (seriously?). Only encourage more and more hatred towards her! And she returned it with love and didn't said a word. I am not saying that all the representatives in our delegation were fine and could have prevented a number of cases, but there is a very large gap between that and the hatred they spread. And the audience showed them their opinion about their bullying.
Love and kindness - tell that to the Palestinians. In the immortal words of Simon Le Bon 'don't say you're easy on me. You're about as easy as a nuclear war"
@@guybenhamoI'm sorry you do a genocide and people will have opinions. Is it worth harassment or ruining a guy's competition over - a guy who was actually talking about unity and competing in his parents' memory? How kind. You do this - behave like dicks and cry victim when you get blow back. Weaponising your supporters doesn't change a damn thing. Majorities are quite often wrong.
Well done Israel......pure class by a truly amazing singer. The UK........sleazy and tacky, with weak vocals. Over 300 points difference. Need I say more.
A personal message to Noosh and her team: throughout the week you behaved like bullies. Shouting boozz calls is bullying behavior. And I don't wish that on anyone. Not even for those who are bullies themselves.
Yeah it was really interesting to watch these live streams and to see their true characters instead in an edited video. Noosh and balkan guy were incredible haters and bullies, disgusting comments were made. Shocking behavior. But now we know what they truly are....
Very interesting year. This year I saw the true side of the ESC youtubers and bloggers. Some were very mature and independent minds, and covered all songs. And some showed to be very awful bully's. This explains why during the rehearsals with the 'press' the bullying were louder than during the live shows. From the Netherlands. I have a list of YTubers for next year to follow.
The public voting Israel: 370+ points! Also the public: Booooo!!! Also: - Norway robbed. - WTF happened with Austria. And Finland that high? - Spain had the public hyped, what happened? - Why is Germany so high? - Italy not in the top 5? - The rest of the top 10 is kind of normal/predictable, so congrats to them! This year was super weird and a mess 😂😂😂
Eden Golan won a *Doze Poa* from the viewers in Sweden, San Marino, Portugal, Holland, Luxembourg, Italy, Great Britain, Finland, Switzerland, Australia, Germany, Belgium, France - and from the votes from the rest of the world (of the countries that do not participate in the competition). In addition, Israel reached first place in the Second semi-final. If not for the judges who almost overwhelmingly ignored Eden. We had a different winner this year. 🫠🤍🩵🌪
Hey, I used to watch a lot of your reaction videos and liked them. However, how you behaved towards Israeli singer really disappointed me. 323 points from the public, and you being banned from some premises speaks a lot about which side you are on. EBU do not bring politics or safety issues to Eurovision. But hateful people do. A lot of CZcamsrs brought political statements this year, and I am so glad that Eden brought a beautiful song. She is only 20 years old, but her strength and class are above you all.
לגמרי נכון! רואים שהיא אנטישמית. היא הייתה נגדנו מההתחלה. רק בגלל עוז ובגלל שקניתי סופר צ'אטים ושאלתי על ישראל- היא דיברה עלינו. אבל רואים באיזה צד שחור היא.. תומכת באמנים רעילים שמתנהגים בצורה בזיונית ולא מכבדת.. עם ישראל חי נשמות! 💙🇮🇱🇪🇦💗🏳️⚧️
Hilarious how your bubble responded to Israel with that overwhelming televote score! 2nd! So proud of Eden Golan! I also voted, 20 times, from the Netherlands. 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻❤️❤️❤️
my favorite got last place _again!!!!!_ germany sent a boring entry this year please norway i _know_ you're better than this don't give up!!!!!! ...kinda cool that neutral country switzerland won in perhaps the most polarizing esc ever. thank you juries, i did wish for zagreb 2025 though. the fact they gave croatia 200+ points is good enough even if they were backing switzerland more than sweden last year (not sure if i like that new voting trend from them). i think switzerland deserved to win in 2021. dutch people i am so sorry. the ebu will pay.
Glad to see France being appreciated by both juries and Eurofans, decent result for Italy and Portugal too, whereas I'm disappointed by Teya Dora',s ranking.
The victimising of Eden is horrible. Grow up and respect people, she has her individual opinions different from the government and you guys boo-ing her just shows how childish even adults can be. Just because you hate a country, doesn’t mean you should hate an individual just because of their ethnicity, she didn’t choose that herself. Stop being bullies, and if you think that way you should no longer support Eurovision, because it’s a music competition. It’s NOT a vote competition for a new president.
@@structurasurreal1376There’s two sides to the story, those of the Israeli people losing innocent people of their population in an unprovoked attack and the people, land and resources in Palestine being “owned” by Israel to some extent. If Eden had someone she knew who was lost or a victim of that unprovoked attack she has the full right to stand there making a performance out of it and let her frustrations out. If I was in her position and saw a bunch of innocent women being straight up r*ped and taken as hostages, as an Israeli, I’d be upset about the situation too. People tend to forget there’s two sides of the story, and us who are not Israeli will not really totally ever understand that, however it’s possible to have some sort of understanding for Eden’s position as well, making a song about the horrible loss of innocent people in an unprovoked attack at a music festival. Now, the government in Israel has been performing a genocide of the Palestinian population as a result of this attack, if that attack didn’t happen the government would never take such actions. And even though I am against Israel taking a part in this years contest, the issues surrounding Israel and Palestine has been an ongoing issue for a long time, and everyone knew about the history back then to, but now everyone is booing an Israeli contestant and trying to start rumors about her in a competition that should SOLELY be on music, not based on ethnicity, nor the government, nor the politics. I don’t think it’s valid for Eden to get death threats for simply following her dreams and supporting the people of her kind who were victims of an unprovoked attack, if I was an Israeli id most likely also be frustrated by the situation and most people would. If anything, Eden Golan was brave enough to go onto that stage and delivered a beautiful performance of the attack that Israel was a victim of the 7th October, 2023. A new side to the story that only Israeli’s know of, and also a side of the story that should also be respected, especially considering she’s Israeli herself. Just listening to the song and watching the music video makes me emotional, and I think that’s the message Eden Golan wanted to convey, and she did that beautifully, regardless of her ethnicity, religion or background, just based on the MUSIC and the PERFORMANCE, which is what this competition is truly about. Fine, the history between Israel and Palestine is horrible, but there’s innocent people behind all the governments actions that are trying to live normal lives, either that be in Palestine or in Israel. Today’s population of Israel are obviously not going to be happy about the unprovoked attack, and the Palestinian people are innocent as well trying to live their lives, but their government too is at war towards Israel so this goes both ways.
As a Ukrainian, I'm not a big fan of Eden herself, but it's a song contest, not a singer contest. Hurricane is a beautiful and heartbreaking song with a very important message so I think they deserve the place they got.
Booing Israel after she gave this good of a show is just low... U know nothing about the situation in Israel. U have been fed with lays and propaganda. Please educate yourself..
Guy in middle really seem to like Georgia's song this year and i appreciate that, bc those around him disagree with him clearly, thank you for liking our song...georgia deserved better
It just shows that your hate is a minority in Europe. Israel got 12 points from 15 countries, including the UK honey. You haters are just loud, and this evening just proved that. Hope you guys treat Israel better next year
@@anynamewilldookay this is fully true. In Italy for sure few people voted, because we don't follow eurovision so much. So those who voted did it just to show their support to Israel. I think it was something organised to this purpose. And probably the same happened in other Countries. It's just a political vote from politicised groups, no link with music
I never said Israel won the tele. I just said that Israel got a lot of support from Europe this night. I haven’t said that is wasn’t political also, I just said that this is amazing to see how you haters are a loud minority in Europe. Saying that it doesn’t show people’s opinion is delusional. You all know deep inside that this night just proved it
I'm happy the jury saved us this time from Israel winning, i'm superhappy that the best one actually won this time, Croatia deserved the win too don't get me wrong, just not the monsterscore from publicvotes from Ukraine and Israel.
funny how the eurovison bubble is completly filled up with their israel hate, that they are not able to accept that the majority in europe is on the side of israel.
I hoped France would win but Croatia and switzerland was amazing too. But yes I agree the jurries saved us from Israel. If Israel would have won it would be a disaster, probably riots all over too, especially here in the nordic...
@@jagoisso7267 Israel got 323 point from the PUBLIC - how many countries got more then 300 points from the PUBLIC? Hint: Croatia 337, *Israel 323,* Ukraine 307 Israel may have got the 5th place - but got the 2nd most number of points from the Public! Not to mention Israel WON the Public vote in the Semi Final! Israel WON - and the Public said NO to the bullies!
@@GalGal-dd9iu 😂 sure enough. I just don’t believe that the vote wasn’t manipulated though, dirty politics and fanatics. Good for you though? What’s it going to get Israel? Not getting anymore popular… plus nobody cares about second places…? People are going to forget Israel’s song, if they haven’t already
Hello. Could you please give us your reaction to the song of this year's Ukrainian representatives, Jerry Heil and alyona alyona? They told everyone that they had two songs with which they could go to Eurovision. There is one of them, the well-known one - "Teresa & Maria", but the other one is called "GET UP", and between them the first one was chosen for the contest. By the way, they kept it a secret, but only today it was released to the public. I have goosebumps from the song "GET UP"!!! Please make a reaction to this song! *By the way, the girls themselves said that they thought that the song "GET UP" should have been in the contest and that they themselves liked it better and said that it was more suitable for the Eurovision Song Contest, but the producer and other people chose the song "Teresa & Maria" for the contest. We'll be waiting to see your reaction :)
Noosh being part of this anti-israel campaign is weird since Armenians are being murdered and on a edge of war with the same exact islamists. I don't understand.
I don’t understand your generation. In what world it’s ok to boo such a respectful man as Martin. In what world it’s ok to break a trophy? In what world it’s ok to threat a 20 year old singer so she cannot leave her room. The worst Eurovision EVER! embarrassing behavior
The fact that all these ESC israel stans dont realise they wouldnt even be able to remember the song if it wasnt sent and performed by israel is mindboggling. Its a basic ballad song that doesnt even remotely live up to the ballads that have won in the last decade, lyrically and musically. Girl can sing thats about it for that song from a point of it being interesting. BE FR. Most of yous are politically motivated in saying its the best song, ukraine was an example of a good well structured ballad. Portugal was more interesting and ill be honest im not that into ballads so i even forgot that one after, but lets say duncan lawrence, conchita, Salvador sobral were all examples of songs that stuck with me even though i dont listen to ballads that much.
1. For me it was the most beautiful song and staging, with amazing choreography. Very pure and spiritual. My family and neighbors thought the same (husband voted for Israel and also Croatia). The boy of the neighbors said he loved the song, the dancers and the angels. 2. Yes, some people gave extra points to Eden and Israel because fed up with the bullying and booos of people, like the bullying of some ESC youtubers and bloggers during the last months. Love to the Israeli Eurovision fans from the Netherlands ❤
I don't understand your Generation. In what world it's OK to boo such a respectful person as Martin? In what world it's OK to break a trophy? In what world it's OK to threat a 20 year old singer so she cannot leave her room? Worst Eurovision EVER! You should be a shame
When it comes to the 300+ points…Many people were clearly pro-Palestine, but we wouldn’t have protests if Israel didn’t have a huge following too. So Israel’s results shouldn’t be surprising. Plus, I think the protests sort of had a negative consequence that the pro-Palestines didn’t expect. The protesters turned Eden Golan into a martyr of sorts. Just cause she’s representing a country people disagree with presently, doesn’t make her a bad person. She’s just following her dreams and seems really sweet. So all the hatred for Israel and booing is victimizing her. The world is so consumed with sides and it’s accomplishing nothing. All the booing did was ruin the night. The EBU made their decision. If you didn’t want to see Israel why stay in the arena. Just leave the room and comeback. Freedom of speech is important and I know the conflict is a serious matter that hopefully is resolved soon. It’s just unfortunate when the negativity consumes the positivity. The world should be about unity and freedom not about division and darkness.
I am very much NOT happy with the result. The top half... is the top half, a very close fight (I wanted Croatia to win but Switzerland was also a really good winner, so I'm happy with the winner). But the bottom half. Wtf happened? I understand it going last but why is Austria second to last... it should fairly be around 10-15 (I would personally put it 12th, above Germany, after Greece). You barely see that type of pure joy in performers. Trust me, the smile is unmistakable, it's like she was at her own concert rather than a political Hunger Games. The bottom half was a fucking mess. Honestly, ESC either needs a complete revamp or like... it needs to end. Because something clearly went wrong, like majorly wrong. As well as toxic fans being genuinely horrible people which really ruins the mood.
@@Cussie3 why not? This is how I feel, my opinion. I’m upset with the result. And very upset with toxic fans because, united by music as a tagline is a fucking joke
As long as Israel and Ukraine take up a chunk of the public votes with sympathy votes, the jury winner will continue to win. Not complaining about the winner either, just an observation.
Jury votes are just as political, even more than the public vote (given the lack of real anonymity) - extremely pro liberal causes (Nemo), extremely anti Israel (who put up a ballad w/strong vocals that would be a jury favorite any other year). You can't really draw these conclusions based on the last two years, and how the results match/don't match your/the community preference...
@omer_peleg I think youre missing my point... I'm saying as long as the public vote is cannibalised by Israel and Ukraine sympathy votes, the publics vote won't matter as much. A set amount of votes will go to Ukraine & Israel and the remainder will go to the fan favourite, which will not be enough to overtake the jury favourite. I expect the next 2-3 years of winners to be decided by the jury winner until the public stop caring as much about Ukraine & Israel.
@@Cussie3 I mean - what does the public vote even mean if you completely discount all votes for Israel & Ukraine as "sympathy votes"? Are people even allowed to love those songs? (Ukraine's entry even got a very similar 5th position on the Jury vote) A fair few people in the community (and some of the performers too) claim to not even have listened to the Israeli entry (not to mention a lot of commenters claimed they refrained from commenting on Israel song, some mentioning it was due to the amount of trolling they got), does that not invalidate the public vote "legitimacy" just the same even if there were no sympathy votes? Not even discussing that the public vote allows for with 20 votes per payment method. which raises all sorts of questions for what it represents. What I'm claiming is that neither the public vote nor the Jury vote reflect exactly what you're suggesting - you can equally claim the Jury vote was hijacked and does really stand for anything it was designed to do or that the public vote is doing exactly what the public vote does (and the addition of Jury was supposed to prevent).
The results of the people's votes:
Croatia 337,
Israel 323,
Ukraine 307,
Switzerland 236,
France 227,
Ireland 136,
Italy 104,
Greece 85,
Armenia 82,
Lithuania 58,
Sweden 49,
Cyprus 44,
Estonia 33,
Serbia 32,
Finland 31,
Latvia 28,
Luxemburg 20,
Georgia 19,
Germany 18,
Portugal 13,
Slovenia 12,
Spain 11,
Austria 5,
Norway 4,
United Kingdom 0.
The Public has spoken!
Hi Noosh 💙
as a long-time subscriber and a true fan of your channel, I was really looking forward to your videos these past months, especially because this year's ESC season was sooooo tense and your content is usually such a joy and celebration of the songs (especially the collabs with Oz 🥰) and I needed that! I have to say I never thought you would be so disrespectful towards any of the participants, and that really broke my heart....
I am a proud Eurovision fan, and a proud Israeli. and as you were all boo'ing for Eden, we had sirens due to multiple rockets shot at us (as usual, btw...) . that painted a very grim picture in my eyes...
so with respect, I've unsubscribed to your channel.
probably not a great chance you will read this, but anyway I wish you and everyone in the comments lots of love, and may Eurovision be rid of the toxic hate next year...
💙🇮🇱❤️
Thank you for voicing my feelings as well ❤
free palestine 🇵🇸❤️
@@hopeisadangerousthingforme from hamas? totally! glad we are on the same page 👍🙏
I'm Ukrainian living in Finland and I could sign under each word you said. This season many Eurofans were the ones who broke the very idea of Eurovision and it's sad.
@@siron2223 from the zionist apartheid regime
4:37 ISRAEL 323 Points
Yes - the Public said NO to the bullies!
Euro-Bloggers GROW UP!
👏👏👏👏👏👏💙🤍💙
From italy im so proud of Angelina and the our judge votes. 💪🏼
I think Italy deserved more, both from jury and public!
Nemo was my winner so i'm very happy with the results ❤❤❤
Mine too. I voted for him from Armenia and didn't shut up about him winning until he received his last votes. I irritated every single family member today 😆🤣
@gayanekhachatryan2711 cuz u gay
I wanted to crown the witch but the witch crowned the fish!
🐠🐠🐠🐠
Stooop 😂
And the crown was bewitched and broke the trophy.
Metaphoric.
323 points on the televote!!! Props to Eden, this girl is EVERYTHING!!
What happens with you live in a bubble.. See this video reaction to Israel
You're the ones living in a bubble. You think that people that voted for you even watched eurovision or know what eurovision is? Even your ministry admited to doing a hard advertisement campaign to get pitty votes.
And you still lost to croatia hahahahah
Rigggght it's all. A conspiracy
@@kadima20 it's not a conspiracy if israeli ministry admits doing it. That's not how conspiracies work
Oz- you have a lot of israelí and Jewish fans ❤🎗✡️💗🫂🤍💙
The funny thing is that all this gays going all this years to Tel Aviv Pride and now all bohhhing Israel
Just saying
They are saying what they think will be popular.. 🐑 🐏 🐑 🐏 🐑 🐏
Yeah, its funny how gays used to go to a genocide country!!! They finally open their eyes!!!
ure gay too
@@lukaajlovanovich1606 yes thats why im not commenting countries where being gay you are not executed
U can consume your zionist content if you want, just leave, for real
Seems like you are the outsiders ignoring Israel while the people at home are smarter than you think 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
People=marrocainoil
Seems like no one likes Israel right now so they to buy votes to try to win and not even make it
@@rfsoseAhhhh the common trope... jews buy people... europe hasnt changed sincr 1930, just now the people have putple hair
❤❤❤👏👏👏 preach 🙌 🇮🇱✡️
@@rfsose they really think the points are a real reflection of eurovision community hahah 80% voted without even hearing the song
Choose the right and educated side on this one.. I understand you are scared.. sending you love from Israel and Spain 🙏🇮🇱🏳️🌈💙🤍🇪🇦
UK 0 points, Norway only 4 is just ridiculous.
That sounds good to me. I'm sorry
Austria and Georgia also got robbed :/
Because celebrity-class are disconnected from the real world. Most of the world is conservative. They don't like watching men kissing. UK should've cooled it down with the gay stuff if they wanted votes.
@@XII_Tim no it's not. Norway was divine
Why didn’t you vote for them?
i love to see your reaction to Israel lol amazing moment , and i am not even Israeli lol
the judges were embarrassing,
the crowd was not silenced 1 by televote with most counries 12 points
People are afraid to support Israel but they picked up the phone and paid.Love it
No your weaopnised fanatics did. Big difference.
@@EmoBearRights womp womp
You’re face on 4:40 made the whole season much happier 🇮🇱🤣
You should all be ashamed of booing at Eden Golan's performance. When televote score got announced, this crowd booed.
Funny to see how the Eurovision fan media bubble is living in a parallel world. 😂😂😂
I will start a podcast and/or website with a more journalistic, realistic view on #Eurovision. 💪🏻
The face when noosh realized actually the majority of the public can and wish to overlook the stupid hate towards a 20 y old singer who to sing and celebrate life.
Majority aka zionists mass voting for themselves on different credit cards and right wing clowns? Ok
Buddy we all knew the zionists would flood the votes with their spite-filled political agenda. The bigots don't even watch Eurovision, they just threw their money at the symbol of their terrorism.
323 points after dozens of rules broken, tons of taxpayers money pumped into social media ads, playing the victim all day long and countless occasions of outright rigging the vote. And yet, she lost to a man singing about his cat meowing back. Congratulations to this huge victory!
How are the charts looking for this piece of 'art'?
Seems like it's quite visible that fasc*sts had one song to choose from, decent people had 24.
She is nasty! I agree. What a bully
The look on your faces when Israel got 323 points 😂 it’s priceless. so satisfying. Literally you choked on it🤭🤣
Only came to see your reaction to Israel. Dud not disappoint 😊🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
We are going to a even more expensive country xD
Hahah
At least it’s the neutral country
@@logi-a money laundering isn't neutral.
@@inah5464 it’s outside countries using their neutrality to money launder.
So Switzerland are neutral, however the other countries aren’t
Get ready to sell your kidney to be able funding the accommodation,the flights and the tickets
Bravo la suisse de la France.
PS 5 country have song not in english in the top 10 so happy. Ukraine, France, Italy, Armenia, Portugal.
En vrai bravo a vous la France vous méritiez d'etre plus haut de le classement (même si entre nous 4ème c plutot pas mal)
@@Tomat0Ketchup merci oui très content j'ai cru a la victoire mais 4 ses génial😀
I really loved song from Armenia. Very catchy and also great rhythm that is not based on the regular formula for pop songs. A unique contribution to the contest.
Your silence is thunderous💙🤍💙
Happy really happy with the results. Israel in Top5 I didn't expect to win but in Top5 I'm happy 😁😁
I'm happy with the end result, BUT. The work isn't over. We seriously need resignations, firings, reorganization in the EBU for this farce to not occur again. We fans might be upset, but it seems the most upset are the broadcasters, and if we want Ireland, Portugal etc to continue and Netherlands to come back, changes need to be made.
The rest of the votes and people do not agree with you! You organized a cult with a mob mentality and sheep herded by terrorists. Brats get owned!
Well said that person👍
As a Dutchie I will never forgive them for what they did. I would be the absolute last person to want Avrotros to withdraw since I love Eurovision so much. But I am saying it now. We should withdraw. This can't be forgiven this easily.
We especially need to reconsider what qualifies a country to get to participate
As a Dutchman I hope we never come back, not pay a cent ever again to Eurovision or the EBU, and all the broadcast organisations cut ties with the EBU. In my 38 year old life the entire charade has been nothing else but politics and corruption from behind the scenes. There were many performances in the past that should have won, and not only from the Netherlands, but many good singers who brought songs (that became hits when the 'winners' were forgotten) and performed them beautifully both vocally and as a performance... they were just robbed.
Besides, the songcontest was meant to be a reunification event through music for a post-war Europe in which all nations were torn because of hate and scorn. But I think that entire vision has been long lost and the festival should end. It is a failed project and mostly due to corruption.
Great performance by Finland 🇫🇮 I can’t believe they got such a low score, I was sure they will win.
Listen up people, I know it’s cool to chant against Israel but please go check your facts.
You made me laugh. Facts ??? Naaaaa , but that’s ok, I’m just few more years they will bag Israel to release them from shahria law. They are brained wash with no real facts. Good luck Europe. We just sit here and laugh
I’m watching your reaction to Israel in loops.
It absolutely cracks me up that brits allow themselves to boo other nations' songs. The lack of modesty and/or self-awareness...
@@77oeg they can boo but facts are the UK public gave it's 12 points to Israel (as most countries did really)
the silent majority!!! @@justanotherfangirl9929
@@justanotherfangirl9929 in the netherlands points were not given but bought, like everywhere with televotes. in the netherlands mainly israeli diaspora and right wing fanatics bought votes for israel. not a real representation of an achievement, buying votes to built self esteem
@@justanotherfangirl9929 yet the song is barely charting on global spotify. for getting the 2nd most televotes, eden is getting the 9th most streams. makes u wonder huh?
In your face ✋🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
There's no trophy for 5th place, not even a medal. The jury was not impressed by that gaslighting performance.
Marrocainoil
Still lost 😂
@@jagoisso7267we won 2 place pablic is all for us!
@@user-qf4wu2kd8p haha great and what is it going to get you? Everyone sees Israel and Eurovision for the sham it is
Thank you for all your hate! You are the ones who helped us to succeed ! Love and kindness always win
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lmao love and kindness?? your delegation has been harassing artists non-stop this season
@@relativokay4 Why? Because they filmed them? Absolutely shocking harassment.
You are such a hypocrite! A whole group of artists united just to remove eden from the competition, wrote a letter against her, encouraged fans to hate her, treated her like she was a leper, bullied her at a press conference, cried when she made it to the finals (seriously?). Only encourage more and more hatred towards her!
And she returned it with love and didn't said a word.
I am not saying that all the representatives in our delegation were fine and could have prevented a number of cases, but there is a very large gap between that and the hatred they spread.
And the audience showed them their opinion about their bullying.
Love and kindness - tell that to the Palestinians. In the immortal words of Simon Le Bon 'don't say you're easy on me. You're about as easy as a nuclear war"
@@guybenhamoI'm sorry you do a genocide and people will have opinions. Is it worth harassment or ruining a guy's competition over - a guy who was actually talking about unity and competing in his parents' memory? How kind. You do this - behave like dicks and cry victim when you get blow back. Weaponising your supporters doesn't change a damn thing. Majorities are quite often wrong.
You did not succeed
Norway was robbed man
I agree, they deserved way more points.
Austria too. Wth happened?
I knew it was going to happen, same as Blanca Paloma last year. (both my personal favourites)
The song was too ethereal for the masses .... I really like the song but I was fearing that its way to far out there for people to get it.
Yeah, I voted for them. So robbed 🇳🇴
There are some brave people in Europe 🖐🏼🖐🏼🖐🏼on your face noosh 😂
Well done Israel......pure class by a truly amazing singer.
The UK........sleazy and tacky, with weak vocals.
Over 300 points difference. Need I say more.
A personal message to Noosh and her team: throughout the week you behaved like bullies. Shouting boozz calls is bullying behavior. And I don't wish that on anyone. Not even for those who are bullies themselves.
Not a single boo from this crowd, you may have noticed
@@Hana9916 have seen the Balkan guy. He was so disrespectful. I hope one day he will feel the same as he treated others
Yeah it was really interesting to watch these live streams and to see their true characters instead in an edited video. Noosh and balkan guy were incredible haters and bullies, disgusting comments were made. Shocking behavior. But now we know what they truly are....
Very interesting year. This year I saw the true side of the ESC youtubers and bloggers. Some were very mature and independent minds, and covered all songs. And some showed to be very awful bully's.
This explains why during the rehearsals with the 'press' the bullying were louder than during the live shows.
From the Netherlands.
I have a list of YTubers for next year to follow.
The public voting Israel: 370+ points!
Also the public: Booooo!!!
Also:
- Norway robbed.
- WTF happened with Austria. And Finland that high?
- Spain had the public hyped, what happened?
- Why is Germany so high?
- Italy not in the top 5?
- The rest of the top 10 is kind of normal/predictable, so congrats to them!
This year was super weird and a mess 😂😂😂
you only heard if you loud, irish people gave eden 10 points
Eden Golan won a *Doze Poa* from the viewers in Sweden, San Marino, Portugal, Holland, Luxembourg, Italy, Great Britain, Finland, Switzerland, Australia, Germany, Belgium, France - and from the votes from the rest of the world (of the countries that do not participate in the competition). In addition, Israel reached first place in the Second semi-final.
If not for the judges who almost overwhelmingly ignored Eden. We had a different winner this year. 🫠🤍🩵🌪
Hey, I used to watch a lot of your reaction videos and liked them. However, how you behaved towards Israeli singer really disappointed me. 323 points from the public, and you being banned from some premises speaks a lot about which side you are on.
EBU do not bring politics or safety issues to Eurovision. But hateful people do. A lot of CZcamsrs brought political statements this year, and I am so glad that Eden brought a beautiful song. She is only 20 years old, but her strength and class are above you all.
לגמרי נכון! רואים שהיא אנטישמית. היא הייתה נגדנו מההתחלה. רק בגלל עוז ובגלל שקניתי סופר צ'אטים ושאלתי על ישראל- היא דיברה עלינו.
אבל רואים באיזה צד שחור היא..
תומכת באמנים רעילים שמתנהגים בצורה בזיונית ולא מכבדת..
עם ישראל חי נשמות! 💙🇮🇱🇪🇦💗🏳️⚧️
womp womp free palestine
@@sivan6350 crown the witch 🍉🇮🇪
“EBU does not bring politics and safety issues to Eurovision”
-> Proceeds to ignore the fact that EBU banned Russia
stay mad genociders. she doesnt take sides, she just support those who fight for resistance from occupation and violence. Free PALESTINEEE
we have nothing to hide - and truth and light overcomes darkness and bulling - so proud of Edan - our second wonderwoman
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Hilarious how your bubble responded to Israel with that overwhelming televote score! 2nd! So proud of Eden Golan! I also voted, 20 times, from the Netherlands. 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻❤️❤️❤️
Your face while wonderful Israel get the votes from the audience is priceless! We won the haters. ♥️🇮🇱♥️🇮🇱♥️🇮🇱♥️🇮🇱
Definitely priceless. Such a hateful people.
😂😂😂😂😂😂ACT AS IF WE ALL DONT KNOW YOU WERE PULLING OUT AN azerbaijan AND BUUUUUUYING ALL THE VOTES
So funny 😂😂😂
35000
35000 terrorists @@rfsose
Three countries got over 300 points. The fans favourite and two other countries that are at war!!!!! What does that tell us?
That tells us that the tele is untrustworthy and needs to be 50/50
Sympathy votes
Ukrainian song was favorite one from the beginning
So shut ur mouth 🤐
@@Angelina-nh3bq wishful thinking darling
Eurovision is no longer Eurovision. It's Euro-politics.
Your silence against bullying is consent ✡️💙🤍💙🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
104 points for angelina is a total insult... what a circus this year
Long Live Israel haters 🇮🇱
I'm happy Israel still in the top 5 😘💖
No one gives a f*** about Israhell
@@exo_lumikeep fooling yourself
@@natv6294how many people you killed today
❤ Israel
עם ישראל חי וקיים! 🇮🇱🇪🇦🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
my favorite got last place _again!!!!!_ germany sent a boring entry this year please norway i _know_ you're better than this don't give up!!!!!!
...kinda cool that neutral country switzerland won in perhaps the most polarizing esc ever. thank you juries, i did wish for zagreb 2025 though. the fact they gave croatia 200+ points is good enough even if they were backing switzerland more than sweden last year (not sure if i like that new voting trend from them). i think switzerland deserved to win in 2021.
dutch people i am so sorry. the ebu will pay.
People booing and protestic can't even locate Israel/Palestine on a map yet they have phd's in Middle Eastern history from once 😂
so al these students all over the world at universities protesting are uneducated?
Exactly!!! How ridiculous
Glad to see France being appreciated by both juries and Eurofans, decent result for Italy and Portugal too, whereas I'm disappointed by Teya Dora',s ranking.
Israel so much points....sooo great
The victimising of Eden is horrible. Grow up and respect people, she has her individual opinions different from the government and you guys boo-ing her just shows how childish even adults can be. Just because you hate a country, doesn’t mean you should hate an individual just because of their ethnicity, she didn’t choose that herself. Stop being bullies, and if you think that way you should no longer support Eurovision, because it’s a music competition. It’s NOT a vote competition for a new president.
If she didn't have the same beliefs as the government, she would not have participated.
@@structurasurreal1376There’s two sides to the story, those of the Israeli people losing innocent people of their population in an unprovoked attack and the people, land and resources in Palestine being “owned” by Israel to some extent. If Eden had someone she knew who was lost or a victim of that unprovoked attack she has the full right to stand there making a performance out of it and let her frustrations out. If I was in her position and saw a bunch of innocent women being straight up r*ped and taken as hostages, as an Israeli, I’d be upset about the situation too. People tend to forget there’s two sides of the story, and us who are not Israeli will not really totally ever understand that, however it’s possible to have some sort of understanding for Eden’s position as well, making a song about the horrible loss of innocent people in an unprovoked attack at a music festival. Now, the government in Israel has been performing a genocide of the Palestinian population as a result of this attack, if that attack didn’t happen the government would never take such actions. And even though I am against Israel taking a part in this years contest, the issues surrounding Israel and Palestine has been an ongoing issue for a long time, and everyone knew about the history back then to, but now everyone is booing an Israeli contestant and trying to start rumors about her in a competition that should SOLELY be on music, not based on ethnicity, nor the government, nor the politics. I don’t think it’s valid for Eden to get death threats for simply following her dreams and supporting the people of her kind who were victims of an unprovoked attack, if I was an Israeli id most likely also be frustrated by the situation and most people would. If anything, Eden Golan was brave enough to go onto that stage and delivered a beautiful performance of the attack that Israel was a victim of the 7th October, 2023. A new side to the story that only Israeli’s know of, and also a side of the story that should also be respected, especially considering she’s Israeli herself. Just listening to the song and watching the music video makes me emotional, and I think that’s the message Eden Golan wanted to convey, and she did that beautifully, regardless of her ethnicity, religion or background, just based on the MUSIC and the PERFORMANCE, which is what this competition is truly about. Fine, the history between Israel and Palestine is horrible, but there’s innocent people behind all the governments actions that are trying to live normal lives, either that be in Palestine or in Israel. Today’s population of Israel are obviously not going to be happy about the unprovoked attack, and the Palestinian people are innocent as well trying to live their lives, but their government too is at war towards Israel so this goes both ways.
As a Ukrainian, I'm not a big fan of Eden herself, but it's a song contest, not a singer contest. Hurricane is a beautiful and heartbreaking song with a very important message so I think they deserve the place they got.
@@hoblon totally agree
Booing Israel after she gave this good of a show is just low... U know nothing about the situation in Israel. U have been fed with lays and propaganda. Please educate yourself..
But they have no brain.. So how the can be learn somthing?
Hey boring noosh you want 323 on delivery or take away?!
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her favourite finished 2nd, Isnotreal finished 5th
@@robertcepo1505Her favourite was the Netherlands LOL 🤣 They finished nowhere
you had to leave press centre?
At least my winner won. Biggest upsets were the UK and Norway. Norway were in my top 10.
You are great! But Noosh antisemisem is really painting you in a bad light..
Israel had the best song.I’m so confused by the jury points. How can it be such a gap between jury to the public. Are they deaf ?
They understand that it wasn’t a good song
Politics.... nothing more, nothing less.
It wasn't a good song.
Beocose jury are naz*I and corapeted
Marrocainoil
AH I've been waiting to see your bitter faces when Israel gets more than 300 points XDXD
Guy in middle really seem to like Georgia's song this year and i appreciate that, bc those around him disagree with him clearly, thank you for liking our song...georgia deserved better
cuz he gay
You never love and like Georgia 🇬🇪😔💔
my British friend adored her voice, and we are with you. God bless against crawling expansion of ruzzia. Love from Ukraine ❤🫡
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Noosh- you really chosen de wrong side of history.. 😢
Nice to see you again in Euroclub the other night. Hopefully see you somewhere in Switzerland again in 2025! Hope you have a safe trip back home! x
Remaining silence against antisemetism and harassment - is consent! Shame on you!
is that TheBalkanGuy beside Noosh?
Kaleen is so robbed 😭
4:35
Biggest gag of the night.
In your face!!!! Mob
But we still won
Israel will NEVER win we fans are too strong
@@Angelina_foxy Are you sure you are convinced? Brats! with mob mentality sheep hearded by Islamists! You lost your moral compass
@@Angelina_foxy u lost the televote tho
@@arias8843 That's true, Croatia won the public vote.
Great meeting you last night girl - that was such a random and fun way to watch the results x (it's liv btw)
You too Liv!!1 ahaha was alot of fun! hopefully more adventures to come!
I loved that Brunette was the spokesperson for Armenia’s jury. Armenia was a favorite for me last year. Was not as into this year’s.
Croatia is wiinneeer 🎉❤
It just shows that your hate is a minority in Europe. Israel got 12 points from 15 countries, including the UK honey. You haters are just loud, and this evening just proved that. Hope you guys treat Israel better next year
Huh? Israel had the best song. They won fair and square the public votes
@@monicabellinger-iz3qk Israel didn't win the public votes though? Croatia did.
I hope Israel treats humanity better next year.
@@anynamewilldookay this is fully true. In Italy for sure few people voted, because we don't follow eurovision so much. So those who voted did it just to show their support to Israel. I think it was something organised to this purpose. And probably the same happened in other Countries. It's just a political vote from politicised groups, no link with music
I never said Israel won the tele. I just said that Israel got a lot of support from Europe this night. I haven’t said that is wasn’t political also, I just said that this is amazing to see how you haters are a loud minority in Europe. Saying that it doesn’t show people’s opinion is delusional. You all know deep inside that this night just proved it
10:35 Get out the checkbooks and Welcome to Switzerland ! Expertise next year gonna be spendy !
Armenia 82 points thanks :)
Ukraine: 19 performances at Eurovision 19 finals - 100%
3 wins - 15.8%
Top 3: 7 - 36.8%
Top 5: 9 - 47.4%
Top 10: 13 - 68.4%
I'm happy the jury saved us this time from Israel winning, i'm superhappy that the best one actually won this time, Croatia deserved the win too don't get me wrong, just not the monsterscore from publicvotes from Ukraine and Israel.
funny how the eurovison bubble is completly filled up with their israel hate, that they are not able to accept that the majority in europe is on the side of israel.
The smart public understand what Israel doing. Too bad for the Antisemitic crowd
I hoped France would win but Croatia and switzerland was amazing too. But yes I agree the jurries saved us from Israel. If Israel would have won it would be a disaster, probably riots all over too, especially here in the nordic...
HamS was sending rockets in the meantime from Rafah just in case you didn’t knew. Disgusting
Actually Croatia got more televotes than Israel so luckily even in a no-jury world we'd be fine on that sense.
They found Nemo in Switzerland
The shock of UK 0 followed by Israel unbelievable 3-digit result -_-
SWITZERLAND MY FAVOURITE (Croatia was my second) also Norway robbed
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Still lost though 👍🏼
@@jagoisso7267 Still above everyone else but Croatia. Above the haters in this video, and above the witch from Ireland.
@@jagoisso7267 Israel got 323 point from the PUBLIC - how many countries got more then 300 points from the PUBLIC? Hint:
Croatia 337,
*Israel 323,*
Ukraine 307
Israel may have got the 5th place - but got the 2nd most number of points from the Public! Not to mention Israel WON the Public vote in the Semi Final!
Israel WON - and the Public said NO to the bullies!
@@GalGal-dd9iu 😂 sure enough. I just don’t believe that the vote wasn’t manipulated though, dirty politics and fanatics. Good for you though? What’s it going to get Israel? Not getting anymore popular… plus nobody cares about second places…? People are going to forget Israel’s song, if they haven’t already
Hello. Could you please give us your reaction to the song of this year's Ukrainian representatives, Jerry Heil and alyona alyona? They told everyone that they had two songs with which they could go to Eurovision. There is one of them, the well-known one - "Teresa & Maria", but the other one is called "GET UP", and between them the first one was chosen for the contest. By the way, they kept it a secret, but only today it was released to the public. I have goosebumps from the song "GET UP"!!! Please make a reaction to this song!
*By the way, the girls themselves said that they thought that the song "GET UP" should have been in the contest and that they themselves liked it better and said that it was more suitable for the Eurovision Song Contest, but the producer and other people chose the song "Teresa & Maria" for the contest. We'll be waiting to see your reaction :)
Roy is so handsome
Third year in a row, the best song is 2nd 👀🙄
Well the fans chose Ukraine in 2022 and since the tele is the true winner that means that the uk weren’t the true winners
Educate yourself. You should be ashamed for your behavior
Norway robbed!!!!!
Noosh being part of this anti-israel campaign is weird since Armenians are being murdered and on a edge of war with the same exact islamists. I don't understand.
jurys robbed croatia soo hard
I'm very sorry but real life is made of real things.
I don’t understand your generation. In what world it’s ok to boo such a respectful man as Martin. In what world it’s ok to break a trophy? In what world it’s ok to threat a 20 year old singer so she cannot leave her room. The worst Eurovision EVER! embarrassing behavior
Agreed
And they feel so pure and good about themselves like they bring light and justice to the world. They really not.
Re-run from 2023
Yay for Switzerland! 0 points for the UK is unfair.
Portugal 13 pts...robbed big.
Austria only 5 is just ridiculous. Very unfair 💔
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The fact that all these ESC israel stans dont realise they wouldnt even be able to remember the song if it wasnt sent and performed by israel is mindboggling. Its a basic ballad song that doesnt even remotely live up to the ballads that have won in the last decade, lyrically and musically. Girl can sing thats about it for that song from a point of it being interesting. BE FR. Most of yous are politically motivated in saying its the best song, ukraine was an example of a good well structured ballad. Portugal was more interesting and ill be honest im not that into ballads so i even forgot that one after, but lets say duncan lawrence, conchita, Salvador sobral were all examples of songs that stuck with me even though i dont listen to ballads that much.
1. For me it was the most beautiful song and staging, with amazing choreography. Very pure and spiritual.
My family and neighbors thought the same (husband voted for Israel and also Croatia).
The boy of the neighbors said he loved the song, the dancers and the angels.
2. Yes, some people gave extra points to Eden and Israel because fed up with the bullying and booos of people, like the bullying of some ESC youtubers and bloggers during the last months.
Love to the Israeli Eurovision fans from the Netherlands ❤
לכי לקנות דחוף אלוורה למההה שורףףףף לךךך
חחח חזיר ג'ינג'י ורוד. הקנאה עוד רגע יוצאת לה מהאוזניים
I don't understand your Generation. In what world it's OK to boo such a respectful person as Martin? In what world it's OK to break a trophy? In what world it's OK to threat a 20 year old singer so she cannot leave her room? Worst Eurovision EVER! You should be a shame
but the trophy got broken by accident, what's the point, it's made in crystal, very easy to break. And they give them another one immediately
Italy and Greece deserved more
israel was the biggest shock for me
Israel has my 12 points
it was OBVIOUSLY political, no doubt
When it comes to the 300+ points…Many people were clearly pro-Palestine, but we wouldn’t have protests if Israel didn’t have a huge following too. So Israel’s results shouldn’t be surprising.
Plus, I think the protests sort of had a negative consequence that the pro-Palestines didn’t expect. The protesters turned Eden Golan into a martyr of sorts. Just cause she’s representing a country people disagree with presently, doesn’t make her a bad person. She’s just following her dreams and seems really sweet. So all the hatred for Israel and booing is victimizing her.
The world is so consumed with sides and it’s accomplishing nothing. All the booing did was ruin the night. The EBU made their decision. If you didn’t want to see Israel why stay in the arena. Just leave the room and comeback.
Freedom of speech is important and I know the conflict is a serious matter that hopefully is resolved soon. It’s just unfortunate when the negativity consumes the positivity. The world should be about unity and freedom not about division and darkness.
It was not shocking it was just fucking daft
I am very much NOT happy with the result. The top half... is the top half, a very close fight (I wanted Croatia to win but Switzerland was also a really good winner, so I'm happy with the winner). But the bottom half. Wtf happened? I understand it going last but why is Austria second to last... it should fairly be around 10-15 (I would personally put it 12th, above Germany, after Greece). You barely see that type of pure joy in performers. Trust me, the smile is unmistakable, it's like she was at her own concert rather than a political Hunger Games. The bottom half was a fucking mess.
Honestly, ESC either needs a complete revamp or like... it needs to end. Because something clearly went wrong, like majorly wrong. As well as toxic fans being genuinely horrible people which really ruins the mood.
Who really cares about the right side of the scoreboard though? If you're not on the left side, you might as well just be last....
@@Cussie3 clearly me, considering I made a comment about it
@@randomkid4783 you shouldn't....
@@Cussie3 why not? This is how I feel, my opinion. I’m upset with the result. And very upset with toxic fans because, united by music as a tagline is a fucking joke
NEVER SLAG OFF THE JURYS! They saved Eurovision
No they didn't 💀
IKR! This year is a perfect example of why we need them
How? Croatia would’ve won without the jury.
@@TypicalSwedeeBut Murderland would have been second.
@@EmoBearRights top 5😂 for us it's a great victory. Now cry me a river 😂😂😂
As long as Israel and Ukraine take up a chunk of the public votes with sympathy votes, the jury winner will continue to win. Not complaining about the winner either, just an observation.
Jury votes are just as political, even more than the public vote (given the lack of real anonymity) - extremely pro liberal causes (Nemo), extremely anti Israel (who put up a ballad w/strong vocals that would be a jury favorite any other year).
You can't really draw these conclusions based on the last two years, and how the results match/don't match your/the community preference...
@omer_peleg I think youre missing my point... I'm saying as long as the public vote is cannibalised by Israel and Ukraine sympathy votes, the publics vote won't matter as much. A set amount of votes will go to Ukraine & Israel and the remainder will go to the fan favourite, which will not be enough to overtake the jury favourite. I expect the next 2-3 years of winners to be decided by the jury winner until the public stop caring as much about Ukraine & Israel.
@@Cussie3 I mean - what does the public vote even mean if you completely discount all votes for Israel & Ukraine as "sympathy votes"?
Are people even allowed to love those songs? (Ukraine's entry even got a very similar 5th position on the Jury vote)
A fair few people in the community (and some of the performers too) claim to not even have listened to the Israeli entry (not to mention a lot of commenters claimed they refrained from commenting on Israel song, some mentioning it was due to the amount of trolling they got), does that not invalidate the public vote "legitimacy" just the same even if there were no sympathy votes? Not even discussing that the public vote allows for with 20 votes per payment method. which raises all sorts of questions for what it represents.
What I'm claiming is that neither the public vote nor the Jury vote reflect exactly what you're suggesting - you can equally claim the Jury vote was hijacked and does really stand for anything it was designed to do or that the public vote is doing exactly what the public vote does (and the addition of Jury was supposed to prevent).
RIGGED
Jury wise, I agree. Somehow many went on the Switzerland train.