Finding Fish In An Abandoned Mine
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- čas přidán 24. 11. 2020
- What kind of abandoned mine did we explore here? Yes, there was hydraulic mining that took place on the surface for decades in the 1800s, but we have underground mining equipment, wooden platforms and electrical control panels present. What would they be doing down in a drain tunnel for a hydraulic mine? Drain tunnels normally get scoured out by rock-filled water that blasts through them during periods of heavy rain. So, how did that stuff in there survive? Obviously, there HAS been violent activity in there given the large boulders that have been tossed around and how the pipes have been beaten up. Not to mention, it would have taken a hell of a lot of force to move that giant (presumed) skip car…
After hydraulic mining was banned in California in the late 1800s, sporadic drift mining took place at this site in the early 1900s. However, the equipment we found in the tunnel is obviously more modern though… So, what was going on down there?
Adit Addicts (Mr. McBride) arrived after we went underground and so he isn’t featured in the video, but he was present. When we connected with him outside, he claimed to have been hearing lions roaring and hyenas laughing while sitting and waiting for us in the dark. This had seriously unnerved him… Naturally, I didn’t believe him, but I could see that he was quite serious. This mine is in California though, so I knew there was no way that lions and hyenas were out stalking us. But, then I heard them as well! You can imagine the conversations that were taking place at this point... I’ve spent enough time in Africa in order to be able to instantly recognize hyenas or an African lion. So, now I was sketched out also, but more than anything else, I just couldn’t get my mind around how there could be lions and hyenas moving around us in the woods. Regardless, I can tell you though that when you’re crawling through thick brush at night into the unknown, you don’t really want to hear a bunch of lions and hyenas. Haha, well, after doing a little research when we got back to our vehicles, it turned out that there was a wildlife sanctuary of sorts bordering the mine that has a number of African animals.
Another point about Mr. McBride… He actually visited this site a couple of years before I did. When he visited, there was a massive plug of rock and industrial debris that was completely blocking the tunnel just before the wooden platform. If you go to 16:46 in his video below (I can't stop the timestamp from linking to my video, so be sure to go to 16:46 in HIS video), you can see the plug and how different things looked when he visited:
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Me getting stuck in that mud was no joke… I was really, REALLY stuck. The mud had gotten up to around my belly button and my efforts to get out were only causing me to sink deeper. As I mentioned in the video, I was surrounded by the sucking mud. So, there was nothing I could grab onto or push off of. When I was thinking about it afterwards, I thought that if I had been alone, my only chance would have been to kick my way out of my waders, sacrifice all of my equipment and try to worm my way out over the mud. By laying directly on top of it, I would have spread my weight around and so, likely, would not have started sinking into the mud so quickly. This, I thought, would have given me a chance to wriggle my way along it until I was able to break free.
To put the size of this mine and tunnel in some perspective, I should also add that it took a good fifteen to twenty minutes of walking to reach the section with the wooden platform and the junction. I edited this section heavily as I didn't think that twenty minutes of me splashing through a featureless tunnel would make for particularly compelling viewing.
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Growing up in California’s “Gold Rush Country” made it easy to take all of the history around us for granted. However, abandoned mine sites have a lot working against them - nature, vandals, scrappers and various government agencies… The old prospectors and miners that used to roam our lonely mountains and toil away deep underground are disappearing quickly as well.
These losses finally caught our attention and we felt compelled to make an effort to document as many of the ghost towns and abandoned mines that we could before that colorful niche of our history is gone forever.
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What really excited me in the fish. The shaft we saw on the end must have let them in, perhaps from an overflowing river from up above. Are they receiving new genetic material from the shaft? If you came back in 5 years would you be able to notice physical differences from being isolated in the mine? Very interesting.
I was fascinated by the fish... I really don't know how they got there as there aren't any rivers above (except a dead one). I was also very curious how long they had been there? And is there really enough in there for them to eat? And, yes, you raised some excellent questions as well... I would love to go back and check on the fish situation in the future.
@@TVRExploring is it the SHAFT spewing out new "genetic material"?
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@@0BRAINS0 LOL
I wonder if one of the floods washed the fish in there? Which very likely could mean that a surface pond somehow collapsed, like a sink hole, into the mine somewhere? How curious!
Many fish travel upstream to spawn
This mine looks like it sees an extreme amount of water flowing through it on a regular basis. Even the rocks and boulders on the floor of the mine are all tumbled and rounded like river stones.
Yes, which is why we were confused as to how that electrical equipment and the wooden platform were still in place.
It had to be drainage tunnels to carry away hydraulic tailings from the other side of the ridge. The platform was for the employees tasked with moving the debris along. All that mud had to be overburden washed out. There's a tunnel similar to that at the Cherokee mine north of Oroville. They washed the material from Table mountain down so far the natural drainage was a hundred feet above the lower parts of the workings. Why the outlet looks so water smoothed is puzzling. Perhaps the velocity and amount of debris was able to do that. One tunnel seemed to have the heavier debris left behind. That would make sense. Somehow I see the skip used as a dragline. Which is why the employees on the platform had electrical boxes to operate the skips, lights, etc. There seems to be enough room below the platform for the material to pass under. It's also at the meeting of all three tunnels. The corkscrew tube going to the surface must have been to add more water, possibly through a mon... Ahh! That's what the large pipe was for! It fed water from a flume above, or a creek to supply a cannon mounted on the platform and shooting the debris farther down the tunnel. Was that why there's chain hanging from the ceiling? Did they hang the cannon from them, making it easier to swing it back and forth like a garden hose washing material off a sidewalk? That would explain why the first section was fairly mud free. Maybe the shaft farther down wasn't for air to breath. Maybe it was a venturi to supply atmospheric pressure, like a penstock has. Shrug. Me not mining engineer. At some point the amount of overburden coming down the three tunnels must have overwhelmed the effort, and they quit. Where ever the tunnels began must have been like the surface of the moon before they stopped. I'd think the scar from the workings would still be visible from Google Earth.
Well, I'm no mining engineer either and what you described is definitely thought-provoking. It's hard for me to figure out what they were doing with that modern equipment in there, so I very much appreciate you weighing in!
And, yes, the work above is visible on Google Earth.
the "feel" of that mine is it doesn't flood often, but hey, when it flood, it really floods.
sharp rocks, plus deep and high mud banks
Yes, I agree with your feel of that mine!
With out knowing what kind of mine it is, are they Gold Fish? (pun) =P
That's golden 😂😂😂
Oh no, we scored us a punny one.. Can you keep them buried when you come up with em? ..Ore do you cave under the pressure when a golden one comes to mined?
Oh ya also, good one!💜
To much mr ballen!!! Lol
Don’t walk in mud in a mine if you don’t have a friend near. We want you to be careful. Love watching you. Thank you.
Thank you for your continued support and positivity... That's very good advice!
Four went to that tunnel I'd have to check the weather forecast see if there was even a hint of rain I wouldn't go in
That would be a wise move in this one, I think!
@@TVRExploring good man I like your work be safe if you ever get out the SoCal give me a holler
It looks like any comments that I wanted to make her have already been addressed by others so I'll just say excellent work as always and a Happy Thanksgiving to everyone who reads this.
Youre clearly new on youtube.
Youre SUPPOSEDDDDD to repeat the same inane comment 4565322456787$2233444 other people have already posted!
Try to keep up ok?
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Happy thanksgiving 🦃🍽🍁
Hey Justin. When Mr. McB. And I went into this one where the chains are hanging it was plugged solid floor to ceiling. Very interesting to finally see what was on the other side. Thank you.
Hard to imagine the amount of force it would have taken to blow that plug out! It would have been something to see that exploding out of the entrance to the tunnel... I hope I can see you on another trip this coming season.
@@TVRExploring For sure i would hate to be anywhere near it when it let loose. Cant wait to go again i really enjoyed it.
What an amazing place, thank you so much for giving us this video. This is very important for the history of mining and is much appreciated.
Glad you enjoyed it
3 Things that would be cool to know/witness... where all the mud came from, the shaft when it plugged, and the massive release of force when the main plug blew out.
Yes, I agree with those - especially the last one!
@maxpower1492 i have to do it,
thats what she said.
Dude this is my new favorite mine if only because so many unanswered questions. Please try to explore this one more in the future. Maybe during dry season or with a skid to slide on the mud with, or snow shoes ha ha ha!!! I don't know!
Was thinkin the snow shoe thing myself
I don't think I've seen a muddier mine. I've seen sinkholes/natural caves with a lot of mud, but those are orders of magnitude older than these mines.
The mud in there was horrible...
Very interesting mine/tunnel deal. That place was flooded for a long time!! Did yall find out where the water was coming down to the fish from the outside? There was a ton of black sand on top of all that mud at the end too. Good sign for gold. Some of those rcks looked like they were river washed also. Yall stay safe and have a great turkey day tomorrow.
This was a hydraulic mine working the ancient river channels and so, yes, those were rocks that were washed by rivers many millions of years ago... No, we didn't determine the source for the water dumping into the fish pond.
You boys are on fire lately hitting one excellent mine after another. I'd be lyin if I said I'm not dyin to be in there with you guys. Another primo vid, thanks again.
Thank you very much! Glad you're enjoying them...
Why do piss ants feel the need to spray paint everything
If my grandfather was fond of saying, "Many a fools names and fools faces often appear in public places."
sank in mud up to my hips once thought i was going to go all the way down lost my shoes in that,.. managed to get on my belly and crawl swim motion out scared the crap out of me...
That's happened to me while working before. I used to work in a sand mine with a wet process plant and they didn't believe in drainage...got stuck in quicksand more than once. I'm very glad to be out of that disaster of an operation.
I had that happen while I was fishing thought I was done!
@@quintinosborn3412 yes I've had it happen a few times myself even worse when you have waiters on and they fill up
That's some hard core exploring! Too much mud for me! LOL!
Way too much mud for me as well!
That's gonna be a hard pass from me! I've had some bad experiences with mud in operating mines (and attempts at draining as a kid in Florida).
The modern disconnects and starters are interesting. My first guess is a pump station of some kind.
Yes, that mud was horrible in there... I can't imagine what they were doing with that equipment in there.
Bloody hell that was a close one, goes to show that even experienced explorers can get caught out. Impressive pond and raise at the back.
Indeed! No one is immune to having things not going as expected... That's why it is good to go with resourceful people that you can rely upon. You may be relying on them for your life at some point!
What a sloppy mess. Glad u called it. The echo in that one was awesome. Big mine though and thanks Justin for another great tour.
No regrets on calling it!
@@TVRExploring for sure, otherwise you'd be a mine artifact. That mud was stckier than godzilla glue.
If I were any earlier to the video the mine would still be active!
I see a mine explore, I click
Another awesome adventure... thank you for taking us along. Be safe 👍
Great short video. When you are walking in the mine in mud bring a long stick with you if you get stuck in the mud push the stick in the mud next to your foot it will release the sucking you can pull out your foot.
That's a good tip!
As a waterfowl hunter I’m no stranger to mud bogs and entrapment. The walking stick is a good idea to help break the suction created by the wader boots. The bigger problem I find is when you have no solid leverage - soft underneath you and soft all around you. At that point, you have to commit to getting full on filthy dirty to escape
nice uhhh... words on the right at 5:07 haha
Good thing you had someone with you. Happy Thanksgiving
Ive been a welder a long time and ive never understood how those metal airlines held up as much and as fast as they rust .....water and metal will make it rust overnight......I'd have to have some mesh hose with some glad hand couplings before I would have trusted it , but a lot of these old timers took some secrets with them.......
enjoyed watching you make your way through this
Glad you enjoyed it... Haha, it was probably more fun watching than actually doing it!
Judging from the state of that “gate” you came through early on, there was a substantial flow or water through there at one time. It also looked like water level lines in there. You do find some interesting mines to go through.
Yes, definitely some powerful flows of water have gone through there!
@@TVRExploring The whole situation strikes a bit odd. The old/new as you pointed out. The shear volume of mud and many layers of sediment.
What I found interesting, and I'm hoping you can expand upon, is the flume.
So interesting, every one of these you take us into is different, no two mines are even remotely alike. Was crazy to consider all the bedrock and all the mud in the same area, what a contrast in material. That mud has to be coming from some place. With the fish discovery, which is a new thing for you, I believe, is it possible the mud is silt from a riverbed?
That giant platform was built to take weight, the only things that would make sense with that platform and the high voltage power setup would be a compressor or pumps. The reset button is common on a compressor, when the relief valve fails during a startup against head pressure on the pistons...Perhaps a platform to keep those pieces out of the water? It appeared to be above the water line on the walls of the tunnel.
This really was different, very interesting place indeed.
Hope you have a good Thanksgiving J. Take care.
There is an ancient river channel above this tunnel, which explains the river silt... It does not explain how the fish got there since it is a dead river though. What you said about the wooden platform makes sense, but what would they have been pumping any why? This mine was a weird one, to be sure...
@@TVRExploring Seems like we regularly wind up with more questions than answers doesn't it. Big part of the fun.
@@TVRExploring A large, predatory bird (e.g. hawks, vultures) eats a female fish that contains unhatched roe. The bird takes a dump up above and the water brings the roe down the chute and into the pool. The fish hatch and live in the pool while being filmed by TVR Exploring...
@@c103110a Holy shit
@@archstanton9206 We most definitely do!
Great mine video justin
Love you and keep exploring mines ...
Thank you!
First time watching one of your videos and I really enjoyed it thanks. Liked and Subscribed. Stay Safe n' Cheers
Welcome aboard!
Thanks , nice work
Every time I watch these videos when I'm stoned I'm expecting to see a human-sized spider lunge out from the darkness and the cameras dropped to the floor
That'll be a great video...
Fun Video Justin and Jeff , Thank you . I am Glad there was a Chuck sighting . Jungle animal Noises Ha ha , I like it . Just one Fish ? I drove past the Hampton Cors Mine today on the way out and thru Retsof on the way home Today .
Yeah, that experience with the lions and hyenas really threw us for a loop! There were several fish - I just wasn't fast enough with the camera to capture them all...
The start/stop/reset boxes are magnetic motor starters.
Can't imagine what they were doing with all of that down there...
@@TVRExploring Ventilation, or winches driven with clutches, or dewatering pumps, I would guess.
The unseen beauty of these places amazes me, so happy to watch your vids to experience this, thank you.
Thank you. Glad you like them...
The way that stuff is strewn about where that “skip” cart is and large boulders. Looks like flash flood. The way the sticks and branches are wedge between the pipes and that steel pipe is mangled.
I agree with you, which is why I can't understand how that wooden platform and the electrical control panels are still intact.
@@TVRExploring . Water does funny things. Ebbs and eddys can occur. Mines and shafts I don’t know. A little about water.
That is a lot of mud layers. Sinking in the mud...I am grateful someone was with you to help. That would of been very scary. I am glad your safe. Very interesting explore - the waterfalls, the fish....
Another great upload hello from Australia
Thank you very much!
Just a thought. Could there have been some sort of very large reservoir of some sort formed by the a blockage in a section you couldn't get too? A little water was able to pass to created the layers in the mud. Overtime the amount of water built up could have been staggering and the plug gave out causing a sort of tsunami. That would help explain the cut grove in the mud. All that water rushing down a confined space would have some serious force to shove the equipment in to a big pile. That doesn't account for the wood platform and the breaker box being in such good shape.
There was a huge plug where the wooden platform is (I talk about it in the description and you can see a video of it). Like you, I can't understand how the wooden platform and breaker box are so intact though...
By the looks of things there is a serious amount of water that comes through there at times... or it got plugged up at one time and blew it cork
It was plugged up at one time (you can see what that looked like if you check out the description below this video). However, it also seems like a good amount of water flows through there on a regular basis...
This is interesting I've always wondered about how's the wild life adapts also I wonder what type of Aquatic Life was in the flooded 16 to 1
will you be going back to this mine in the future? I am fascinated by the fish and would love an update
What a different kind of mine. Right off the bat, it looks like a slanted fun house or something! Incredible sharp angles of some of the rock formations. I kept thinking that it looked like a dam that had broken, with the tons of mud flowing through the areas that didn't look like that much water and mud should be there. Very interesting!!
It was an odd one, to be sure...
Many soldiers and horses died in the mud in WW1.
Even with many men and other horses etc trying to rescue them they just sank out of sight.
Seriously shitty way to go in a war full of seriously shitty ways to die
World War I was unbelievable brutal... I have visited many of the World War I battlefields and even having visited, it is still difficult to imagine the degree of suffering. And, yes, suffocating in the mud would have been a really shitty way to go.
just a theory but maybe that platform extended to the end of the tunnel. If there was rail on the inside of the mine the floor was way too rough. The rails left outside were turned sideways and may have been supports for the platform, it looks like a lot washed out of it with the shape the gate was in. May have been more water running through when it was active or more runs in storms and they built it higher for water to flow below. the way things were smashed up there was a ton of water flowing at one point.
I'd love to know the answers to all of these questions...
The only place I've seen a metal flume like that is above Magalia, bringing water into Lake De Sabla. And "somewhere" is a shaft that returns the overflow back to Butte Creek. There are several PG&E tunnels between Helltown and the Centerville Powerhouse. Between the flume and the creek-like floor that would make it nearly impossible to bring ore out, my guess is it's a reservoir overflow return tunnel.
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The primary purpose of this map is to show bat study areas, but it also shows PG&E dams, penstock, sluice pipes, tunnels, etc.
www.pge.com/pge_global/common/pdfs/safety/electrical-safety/safety-initiatives/desabla/Fig-E6.4.2.3-1-Sensitive-Bat-Study-Map-maps-1-3.pdf
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We need to conserve as much water as we can here in the North State to send to Los Angeles. Between draining lakes, turning them into deserts, a failed dam that killed many people when it failed, and farmers dynamiting the aqueduct bringing water from the Colorado River, they has exhausted their other resources of places to steal water from.
Wonder if something like snowshoes would help on the boggy mud.
Look up “Mudders mud shoes” - made just for this
@@herbr5318 ah, it does exist!
Thanks
How many fish did you see, Justin? I am dying to know!
It was hard to tell because they were moving around, but there were at least several... I was fascinated by the fish in there!
@@TVRExploring Did you recognize their species? Did they appear to be adult specimens? Or more like fingerlings? Were they all the same size?
@@AGDinCA It was hard to tell in the darkness and bad light, but they looked like trout. Yes, they were roughly the same size with one that was a little larger and a couple that were smaller. If they were trout, they were fingerling size.
@@TVRExploring Interesting... and no river anywhere outside the mine, right?
@@AGDinCA No, just the dead river that was being mined on the surface.
In Grass Valley a company I worked for bid to vacuum thousands of pounds Au laden Hg out
Of a raceway similar. EPA plugged. In 1800s Mercury was used with railroad tyes as riffles. 1/2 mile in this case.
The volumes of mercury used in the 1800s were pretty extraordinary.... I wonder how much gold the company you worked for would have been able to recover?
Always on time.
What a amazing find at the end of the explore, I think you were right to call it at the end, no point in going further if you aren't enjoying it or its gonna get you stuck. Some serious amount of rock moved to create that adit/tunnel.
Ha, yes, I've got to say that fish were not something I was expecting to find! And, yes, I have no regrets about calling this one... That was the most stuck I have ever been and the risk/reward ratio was not balanced favorably. The amount of rock moved gives an idea of how much gold was being recovered!
Really enjoyed watching this video, buddy. 👍 I've seen gear vids but what torch were you using on this one?
I don't recall the exact model numbers off of the top of my head, but if you look in the description below the video, I have a link to all of the gear that I use.
Enjoyed the video and appreciate the effort you had to put into this !!! I stepped into some quick sand while hiking and if it hadn’t been for a tree branch hanging over which I was able to grab and pull myself up I could have disappeared off the face of the earth and no trace left, it but the hibbie jibbies into me !!
That stuff is horrible... I'm glad you were able to get out!
TVR Exploring , thanks for the response and the bog had boards placed where it was dangerous but very hard to see, about 45 minutes after my misstep I caught up to my neighbor and when he saw I had mud up to my belt he started to laugh and knew where I had been !
So that vertical part above the fish pond... is that a natural chimney and they just drilled into a cave?
looked like it to me
@@RonenOsden then the question is if that fish came down from there, or somehow swam up the stream from below.
Given how worn it is, it is difficult to tell if it part of that was natural or not... And, yes, I would love to know how the fish got there and how long they have been there!
@@TVRExploring Both worn and the amount of flowstone in that cave both could mask it as a seemingly natural formation. I would never want anybody to climb up there, but at the same time sometimes I wish You guys had one of those small "drones in a cage" that can tolerate bumping into walls.
@@TVRExploring True enough, Ive watched some other channels with videos that found some near vertical ore chutes that look similar.
Those electrical boxes are more than likely relays fuse disconnects and interlocks for exhaust fans compressors etc
I can't imagine how that equipment was used in there...
They didn’t mess around with that mine. So much digging.
All that mud tells me it’s been hit by massive flooding from above, the source of flooding being from a point you couldn’t reach.
@TVR Exploring Will we have Mr McBride and his fish net in the next episode? Perhaps relocate the stranded aqua life to another body of water, (Which is highly illegal by the way) and save their lives? Or will they just be washed away once again to become some meal on the forest floor downstream from the adit? Only time will tell. Thanks again Justin!!!!
13:00 - Miniature grand canyon. Very cool and today's mud is tomorrows (relatively speaking) shale.
Really dig the work you're doing !!
Have you ever tried panning some of those small but fairly deep pools ?
Seems logical for finding gold settled into the bottom..
Honestly who dislikes such bad ass videos 😐🤨
When the overburden becomes underburden lol
First tvr falls. Now a tvr fish. What's next? A tvr dragon?
You'd have to run like Remo Williams to get across that mud. lol Seriously tho neat mine with some interesting curiosities.
TVR Exploring is the best. Living vicariously through you. You ain't going to find my fat ass in any of these wonderful places that you take us. Hope things are better for you friend. Sorry for your loss.
Haha! Thank you very much for the kind words and support...
Thanks for fighting the mud to make the video.
Reminds me of an underground river.
What interesting stone contours along the side of the tunnels that have been created by moving water. Like you said, even the thick sand showed stratification. Now, how much time has passed to have caused that?? So good that you had a partner with you when you got stuck in the quicksand. A very interesting tunnel/mine? Appreciate you investigating it.
Given time, water and pressure can create some very interesting things... Haha, and, yes, I am very glad to have not been alone on this one! I think I would've gotten out, but it would have been at a high price!
7:39 under the platform looks like some of the original sluice box was built over the top of it.
I don't understand how all of that stuff is still intact given the violence with which that plug you found must have blown out...
@@TVRExploring No doubt. Idk if you noticed on your way in but the level of the mud in that side drift covered the entire length of the whole under ground workings at one time. Tyler and I found a few spots that still had it clinging to the back and ribs.
Also if I'm reading my map correctly that last raise you were at was one of the main access points after they quit hydraulic mining and started drifting under the face up above.
@@ADITADDICTS whats up chuck did you get your jeep done
@@oldschoolmoto I finished rebuilding the transmission about two days ago, got my new ( reconditioned ) torque converter and am getting ready to push/pull it into the shop and swap out the 32rh with the a999. Going to rebuild the 32rh with a shift kit and new t-converter ( locking converter the a999 is non locking) that way i have a nice back up when this happens again!
Looks like it might have flooded completely and blown out a long time ago, everything's mangled. Could they have collapsed a surface pond into this drift?
Also, if you stick your boot, knee into it and you should break the suction.
Could always go back with something to ride the mud, on top of it like snowshoes over snow. Couple pieces of light plywood with some lacing and small 'suction holes', or a stiffened canvas tarp sewn into a belt (messy as hell but the idea is you pull it up as you walk and move it alongside, you're rolling this canvas belt as you're walking in it like a tank track),
Yea looking at the way in it looked exactly like a big torrent of water comes through every now and then. It looks like a cave inside! Especially with all the water flow and stream formations.
Yes, which is why I'm having a hard time getting my mind around how that wooden platform and the electrical control panels are still in place.
I keep thinking some of these odd mines are really reworked ancient systems? Some of the workings just look unecessary or natural cavities etc. that were expanded on? Love your videos!
One to revisit in a couple of years time as the mud might wash out now that the plug is gone.
For sure!
How was the tunnel dug straight up .?
Hows it is possible.?
Interesting very wet mine, with its ohn canyon hehe and it did not want too see you leave, must have been flooding over and over during a lot of years. i wonder how that fish survives down there.
Yes, I'd love to know how the fish got there and how long they have been in there...
When coyotes get riled up they can sound a lot like hyenas. If you heard a lion at the same time, perhaps it was a group of coyotes trying to chase a mountain lion off her kill. I've only heard a California mountain lion really roar once when my dog and I surprised one while hiking. Probably an expert could tell the difference in roars, but at the time it sure sounded like a big scary lion.
They were African lions and hyenas in a wildlife sanctuary nearby... I've never heard a California mountain lion roar, but I have heard the many sounds of coyotes countless times. I like them.
The fish are from 21:11, for those who want to jump ahead. The most interesting part of this mine explore, in my opinion.
Sweet 👍
5:04 Looks like a drag line bucket to me. But I've been wrong before. lol
Nope, not a drag line bucket, definitely a skip. The question is where is the incline or decline it was used in?
Nope ain't Gonna Do it !!! Don't Blame you I got stuck in a Mud hole couldn't breath thank goodness my Coworkers got me out!! Broke two ribs!! You did right!!!; )
Mud like that is horrible... I'm glad you got out!
You couldn't breathe because of broken ribs. I'm curious however how you broke ribs falling in mud?
@@michaelrasmussen426 the walls cave in then buried me they dug me out with backhoe that's how my ribs got crushed
@@richardwarnock2789 dam you are lucky to be alive. I worked at a plumbing company and they didn't shore up the trench. It caved in on a guy and it crushed him and he couldn't breathe and died.🙏❤️
I have a feeling that the steel gate may have acted as a dam and allowed sediment build up until it failed and everything come crashing through, but in saying that everything is relatively smoothed off so it must be a frequent occurrence 🤔
Nice to see that slusher (skip car) laying there--pulls muck from pile toward the cars when set up--
You ask why these things are in a drain tunnel? Looks to me like this tunnel floods, particularly at 4:46 where the gate is rent from its hinges and bent. If it floods, then it probably drags lots of things down into it.
My thoughts Exactly!
Yes, I agree... That is why I am so puzzled as to how that wooden platform is still intact and how all of that electrical equipment is still there.
Like something out of The Goonies. Cool af
TVR fish haha! Now find a TVR Griffith hidden in a mine somewhere, and you’ll be set!
That entrance into the mine looks like something from the Lord Of the Rings Movie. Thanks for the video.
Was looking for those fish. Almost gone car hop tray from amazon
Trout eggs washed down from stream or ponds up above is most likely as most fish don't swim great distances up dark tunnels.
Lack of food could stunt them.
Algae washed down could be sufficient food to keep them alive.
Mosquito or other insects might follow the treamright to end of tunnel to drop their eggs or die and make food.
My goldfish spend a lot of time sucking algae off the rocks in the tank.
Graffiti @ 5:41 is from someone who played GTA4. Same wtf reaction when playing the game as seeing it there above the skip car.
the ground at the begining of the video under those concrete blocks looks like a natural stream so maybe they just opened out an already existing underground stream to to get undergound and then when you get to that bridge 7:20 over the stream, the mine entrance then diverts from the stream and that carries on in its natural tunnel at 9:53, 12:40 that looks natural
When was the mine closed
Looks as if they were drilling and hit a underground reservoir which brought down the boulders & mud
They were mining an ancient river channel above. The river rocks in this level spilled down from above...
More about the dead rivers:
nevada-outback-gems.com/gold_rush_tales/california_gold_rush-tale65.htm
glad you made it out that mud
Me too!
It would be interesting to find the opening above the mine above the small pool with the fish. Perhaps this is a storm drain runoff near the edge of a river? It probably only receives significant water flow during storms and brings plenty of river mud with it. Interesting indeed.
Does there happen to be a zoo nearby? Only explanation for hearing the animal sounds lol or somebody is playing the lion king on a loud speaker.
No storm drains in the area... This is out in the countryside. The surface has the remains of a hydraulic mine on it. No zoo nearby. It was some sort of wildlife sanctuary. Pretty funny experience in hindsight!
@@TVRExploring It’s a good thing you guys weren’t in that sanctuary by mistake. But I could Picture Mr. McBride yelling at the Lions and hyenas. Lol
@@jw2218 The whole incident was quite funny in hindsight.
THAT WAS A STRANGE TUNNEL. I WOULD NEVER GO THREW THAT ONE,INTERESTING TO FIND FISH IN THERE. WONDER WHERE TTHAT THEY CAME FROM. WAS INTERESTING.
Yes, lots of strange things about this one... I'd love to know how the fish got in there and how long they've been there.
@@TVRExploring There is a pond upstream of the old hydraulic mine. That last opening to the surface is the drain for all the area above. Even though it looks plugged it still must have small holes. I was in that mine 50 years ago but never that far in as we did not have good lights. Fish wher in the water then even near the entrance. The newer equipment was when they went back in in 1980 for a year looking for anything new. I have never been to the other portal as access is an issue. No mud or plugs in the verticals then as I did walk the topside once before all the trees grew.
@@neilnunn2529 I wish I could have seen it when you did!
Too bad you didn’t get the reaction to the lions and hyena’s on film, cause that would have been interesting
Bizarre place! Glad you made it out of the mud with your gear. I wonder if snow shoes work in mud? Not in there, just in general.
I'm very glad that I didn't lose all of my gear to the mud as well! I would think that snow shoes would work given that the principle is the same, you know? Spreading out the weight to avoid sinking into something soft...
i know they make snow shoes for walking on deep snow, i wonder whether any one makes mud shoes for similar purpose ?
They'd be real nice to have in quite a lot of mines!
They do make them. Google “Mudder mud shoes.” They work really well