How to enhance your 5 strings bass guitar sound - part 1 - Frudua GFJ bass
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How to get the best tone out of your bass guitar B string and an even response on the whole bass fretboard. Part 2.
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Also, remember that too much of a string angle over the saddle and beyond (for example on strings through the body) damages the various (and very complicated system of) overlapping windings especially of the bigger (low b) strings thus affecting sound and intonation. You can trust me for the words, I have made severe tests.
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This video refers to strat all instruments ranging from 7.5 fretboard radius up to 9,5 but even more and will also work on the 6 saddles - Hudba
After weeks of messing around with my first 5-string and going through tons of videos without success, I stumbeled across this one. I just literally nearly fell off my chair: Unrolled the B string a little, let it turn into position, tuned it back up and BAAAAM --> Spot on. This is crazy, how is this not on every single "how to set up you bass" video!?
I love the way this guy speaks English.
That letting the ball end of the string settle is GOLDEN.
Your videos are very informative. I have watched some of them more than once. You build amazing basses and you totally know your craft. Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge.
You won't get twisting on the B-string unless you wrap the string around the post by hand (like he did in the video with the first loop). Just always do it by turning the tuning peg and you won't have that problem. That said, it's an interesting point to be aware of and worth checking before completely tightening up the string.
Very informative. Never thought of this before. Thanks for posting.
Very useful video - I had never considered the possiblity of rolling/twisting the string when fitting, I also found after changing strings on my new bass the low B was suddenly "dull". Lowering the neck pickup on the bass side did indeed brighten it noticably. Glad I found this!
This guy is a bass making genius fradua Bass direct best sounding bass ever But he doesn't make em anymore
Wonderful video. You are very intelligent. I've never seen such a scientific approach to this. Your Italian craftsmanship is showing well!
-Randy, an engineer from the USA
Nice looking bass,and sounding bass ,with an even string response
The CC's on this are hilarious xD
Great video Galeazzo!!
This is excellent and useful information. Thanks for sharing. I will get some of my online students to check this out.
Kind regards,
George
this approach is brilliant!
Great Video, all the best!
Thank you so much! Everything you say makes perfect sense.
Thank you for taking the time to make a video in English. I appreciate the extra effort!
Great tips dude. Thanks!
Very good video. I've just discovered your basses on the net. I want to order one. There's only so much you can tell from videos but my gut instinct is that your instruments are very good indeed.
And obviously very humble about it as well.
That can be sorted by changing the bridge saddles. I put flatwounds on a Fender Jazz and the action felt alright but the strings were far too taught for me, and I was told by one of my tutors to lower the saddles and it helped it a lot.
Great video
He knows his business. One of the few people I have ever heard explain PROPERLY the way a string vibrates. It is slightly more complicated than this explanation, but he makes a complicated point simply.
The big challenge of 5 string bass, is having a speaker system that will reproduce the fundamental frequency of the B. There are some high end bass reproduction systems that do a terrible job. And some cheap ones that nail it. The best low bucks one rhymes with skeevy.
Yao this is a totally underrated video!!!!
@fingerboy18 Thank you! Liked the idea that you are appreciating something Italian.
Frudua you are amazing
Mr. Frudua rocks.
Nice lesson. By the way, I own a Frudua Bass Gjf5 and what a B string!!!
Great video's. How do you roll the strings on a through the body bass. Just picked up a fender precision 5 string and want the best sound. Especially for my b string. Thanks
Well i never thought of that, unrolling a twisted string! I breen playing 40 years and I never knew
Hey Dustin, I hope you don't mind me providing a perspective! Greetings from Australia.. You make a very good point. Some manufacturers are doing balanced sets, though this dynamic you describe still occurs. Circle K do balanced sets, but this results in their low B, E, A strings being of a massive gauge to compensate. I've heard good things, but this just doesn't sound practical. For the moment keep an eye out for balanced sets. It varies also from bass to bass! All the best, J
wow awesome thx! how much is this bass? thanks
You can change that by tweaking the set up slightly. I'm not saying that you should, it might be what you want but (this is an idea that's just come to me so I apologise if its not thought through) it could warp your neck somewhat if the tensions are significantly unbalanced.
and to add my two cents - the best thing for a B-string is to install the string, then turn the ball end in one direction to tighten the winding back. this is a trick by Richard Hoover and it's an old piano string trick.
this works best on top loading bridges with exposed ball ends, others are harder to do.
Super.
verr enjoyful...
Ther lower strings "move" more because on the standard sets they have lower tension than the higher ones. If you have even tension they move the same!
Just buy some and test the B string as I show here. If it sounds like the other strings playing it as I show in the video.
Grazie per il video! cosa suggerisci per ottenere un volume paragonabile su tutte le corde per un basso 5 corde che ha i poli del pickup jazz al ponte tutti allo stesso livello, ma il radius 9.5? attualmente il La ad esempio è decisamente spento, mentre il low B tende a essere eccessivamente presente
Grazie mille!
yes this is a problem with any tupe of string for bass or guitar, in case of guitar you especially need to take care of this when mounting strings on a Floyd Rose
If you are on a budget, the trick is to be frugal, but not cheap! I'd recommend using flatwound strings, they're a bit more mellow and warm, and you don't get scraping sounds from the windings! A set of D'Addario flatwounds will cost you $30-$40 bucks, but unless you're a heavy popper, you won't need to replace them for years, as opposed to every couple of weeks. Short-term pain, long-term gain! Just don't forget to clean them when you're done!
The string will twist on itself both you do it by hand or by turning the peg.
Hello, i have a squier five string jazz bass the low b is extremly floppy. is there any way i can fix it? the string gauge is .45 - .125
Do you recommend doing this with string through body (with the new string, without angle ofc)?
If you find that your strings feel too tense lower the bridge saddles, but be careful to avoid lowering them too much, else you'll get fret buzz on the high frets.
very informative. Where can I get Tuscany or Frudua bass in Malaysia?
@batmontz Dai un'occhiata alla articolo sul sustain nella Frudua Craftpedia. Cercalo su google
the rolling of the string never occured to me, and has never been mentioned to me in articles Ive read, is this a problem with acoustics and electrics also? Makes me wonder how many times I may have possible messed my strings up ha ha ha!
do u have a website in english? i'm very interested to see what u offer! i tried the link in yr description box, but it's italian only and i didn't see a catalogue or online shop there.
Ciao!Parlando di quinta corda mi sorge un dubbio...se volessi aumentare il sustain come potrei fare? Leggo in giro gente che dice di aumentare la tensione usando un tendi corda! Se il consiglio fosse giusto,come trovo la giusta posizione dove piazzarlo?Grazie mille.
Grande Galeazzo,
ne vogliamo di più sul basso però eh! ...non ci trascurare ;)
someone asked me what strings do i use?...i said "all of them" especially the A string,i like playing the A string the most.
Yes, A is my favorite too :)
chiedo direttamente al capo...come mai sul frudua store non ci sono più prodotti disponibili? o sono io ubriaco e clicco sui link sbagliati?
Your voice reminds me of someone.
@busseteiro DO NOT get Rotosound. They do NOT have 'growl' in the lows. They R all MIDRANGE. U can basically convert N E steel string 2 a Rotosound by submerging it in strong acid, so it etches the surface. This changes the tone, cutting the highs & lows & giving it added fuzzy warmth. They also eat frets like crazy (like sandpaper). Taper or contact core strings have 'piano' type sound, but lack compression 4 'growl', unless compressed after (electronically), BUT non-taper lack sustain...
Salve Galeazzo! Volevo solo chiederti come si fa a prevenire l'arrotamento delle corde avendo un bridge normale (non hipshot). Sui gfj non c'e' nessun problema, dato che si puo' tirare fuori la corda e semplicemente girarla, ma sui fender l'operazione e' un po' piu' difficile...l'ultima volta che ho cambiato le corde, pensavo di averle girate abbastanza, ma poi, quando le ho tolte mi sono accorto che si erano girate su di esse un paio di volte. Qualche consiglio? Forse un bridge hipshot?Grazie
@widepass uh! A bass with a flat fretboard?!?
Si segui la procedura nel video.
When I'm in a musicshop I check the 5 stringbass with playing the E string and watch on the 12 fret how many second it plays before dividing into two bows playing the first partial and not moving at 12 fret. ( did you get that) Then trying the B string and watching how many second it plays before dividing at 12 fret. Usually a much shorter time than we belieave, Our ears fools us that the bass is playing a low B while in fact it goes to the octave. It is easy to see comparing the E and B string while still hanging in the shop. A fast way to find a bass with good B string. You can also listen to the string with an octave box and you hear when the string divides into an octave directly
Ola it's not exactly like this :) both the fundamental and the upper partial octave are playing at the same time. And if you were amplified remember that very rarely bass cabinet goes lower than a "A" (but I never said this ahahahah)
FruduaTv I know they work at the same time but at one point the fundemental stops and the string divides without the fundemental. You get an motion of the string that looks like an "8" with no motion in the midle. This is a fast way to try a 5 string. Count the seconds. our ears get fooled imaging the Fundemental to be there the whole time.
what if you are on a budget and you cant afford ernie ball strings, what strings would you recommend?
WHICH STRINGS TO USE: Please read description box.
i accidentally clicked and skipped all the way to 5:48 and i thought damn he drew a burger
@micolao Eh ahi ragioe ;)
i have a question... i recently acquired a Dean edge-5, 5 strings, and it has emg-hz pickups,my question is how about pickups that have covers on them?how will i get the most out of it? thanks a lot!
el van lorenzo The metallic pickup covers?
plastic ones
el van lorenzo If you mean the black plastic covers on the EMG-HZ, they are made like that. Please don't try to remove them or anything lol.
i like dhis bass..
Fantastic video Galeazzo, la ringrazio per il dono!
I would say however, that a vibrating string does not create an elliptical path, but a parabola. Geometrically both are surface intersections of a conic surface however an ellipse has far nodal points at 90° and a parabola does not ;-D
I took one of my 5-strings to check this out. It made three turns in my hand and after stretching and tuning back up it seemed nicer. Certainly worthwhile remembering to do this. Thank you again.
where is part 2 ?
@Deathrape2001 The keyword here is "Fuck"!
S.I.T. strings is definitely not included on the correct low B--the E string also sounds awful after some use. I'm looking forward to change my s.i.t. strings to a Rotosound swing bass. That modafukah from frudua tv should at least tell us the correct low B's string if he doesn't want to mention the bad ones. I'm a po' boy and I can't afford buying several strings set and then find out which one has a correct low B.
e ma il video in italiano non c'e ? per che in inglese non riesco capire.
"makes our geeegs very enjoyful"....YOU BET WE DO! Cool vid!
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Check out the Frudua Craftpedia related article (just Google it)
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you've never played a Sadowsky, right? ;-)
Hell, most of MY current 5+ strings are 35" (5 of 7) & I prefer the certain something you get, but you pay a price with stretches, less choice of strings and simply a different *feel* due to the increase of neck/body mass compared to 4s. And I'd put my 'Ray 5 or '96 Ibanez SR-1206 (better than almost anything they have out now) against my Spectors or Mike Lulls. 1" is only a 7% increase in string tension.
What type of pickups are those?
Di marzio
but was about acoustic and electric guitars, not bass?
All I'm saying that the strings are one small part of the equation when it comes to their tension.
Buy some Ernie Balls and raise the pickups on the bass side.
On my new SR405qm, the strings hits the frets too much, how can I fix this so its low sounds come out? & sound like bands such as Crossfade, Stand, 5FDP, etc.
Ok let's calm the tones down here ok?
even amplitude.
Oh god you again.
2:07 uuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
On all my 'Low B' acoustic bass guitars (since I pull and pluck the string hard when playing) I adjusted the truss rod to give me much more 'neck relief' than would be normal on a standard 'EADG' bass -- this is necessary to prevent 'fret buzz' from the low B string.
I never wrap the low B, by hand, round the tuning post - as this causes the string to 'twist'.
The 'Low B' string, which is harder to tune than all the other strings, I tune by (it's a gradual process) running down the scale from the higher 'B' on the A string;; next, I compare the open 'Low B' string to the high B at the 7th fret on the E string;; next, I fret the Low B at the 5th fret and compare it to the open E string;; repeat this 'cycle' two or three times until you've 'fine tuned' that Low B - it only takes tiny turns .
Lastly, if you really want to faithfully reproduce that 'Low B' note (30Hz) through a speaker -- instead of just its 'overtone' -- then you'll need to load that speaker (a high quality speaker) into -- remember 'sound is round' (it's not square) -- a tube or pipe (1/4 wave) of TEN FOOT length.!
Mick Kennedy the pipe thing is bullshit!
I think the English word you were looking for is"twisted".
@widepass Ah ok. So please reformulate the question.
@eggobass I haven't been building instruments for years, i'm not the one who uploaded this video. It's just how i do it, and i've never built an instrument - yet. Though i've read many guides and listened to many different people, and no one yet said that you should bend before cutting. And i still see no sense in it, since you can get the perfect measure doing it like that. The string can be winded perfectly even when you cut before bending.
i feel like im in college again lol......... nice class tho
@eggobass There is no point in bending before cutting, since you use the tuner as leverage.
On 34" scale bass all you can get from B string is a fart sound.
@zenithxeno9ines Wrong! The bass player walked up to the car, busted the window out, pulled the drummer from the car and bitch slapped him.
@terreseco Thsnks please link to fruduadirectdeal>>dot>>com for more info on my basses
Ha, ha cutie- I thought we were going out?
Here we have a luthier giving hes deep knowledge to other people for free. Plus he's doing it in a for him foreign language. Still there are uneducated subjects who are insulting him - what a sad world.
@zenithxeno9ines
You're confusing us Bassists with Violists. There's quite a difference, and you don't normally see violists in rock bands or anything...You're a very unsuccesful troll.
dude i have been a guitarist / musician of many instrument s for along time and i don't know what you are talking about... Fucking bass players hhey here is one how did the drummer rescue the bass player after the both of them got locked in the van???? the drummer pusshed the bassist outa the way and OPENED THE FUCKING DOOR
if your so awesome why wont you just tell the truth who makes the best strings for the bass so then we all know and can save tons of cash trying to find and we might never find the right ones..
Really it's a matter of testing I remember having tested a brand model and chose them and used them for a long time and then suddenly they sounded like shit. The only test that makes sense is the one I am showing. If you happen to find one that sounds like I show buy them till they change.
Different people have different preferences in tone. That's why it's wise to try out different strings to determine which ones sound and feel the best to you. That is also why there are nickel and stainless strings as well as many different string sizes. You'll find the tension also varies between different manufacturers (even in the same guage)
Nickel strings have a lighter feel with more overtones (more sparkle) than stainless. Stainless have a solid feel that's less dynamic (requires less finesse).
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very informative. Where can I get Tuscany or Frudua bass in Malaysia?
e ma il video in italiano non c'e ? per che in inglese non riesco capire.