Intel's Core 2 Quad Q9550 in 2022 - The Final send-off?
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
- Hello everyone! As promised, after mild success with the Cheap eBay Gaming PC, I'm returning to LGA 775 for what I hope is a final test! Can we push this nearly 15 year old processor ? Let's see! Please support the channel by subscribing and liking the video - it really does help :)
#gaming #pc #retrogaming #core2quad #gtx #gta5 #needforspeed
0:00 Intro
1:53 CPU-Z Stock test
2:26 Cinebench R20 Stock test
2:41 Stock CPU cooler needs to go!
2:56 Overclocking & BIOS settings
3:27 CPU-Z Overclocked test
3:52 Cinebench R20 Overclocked test
4:20 Crysis (2008)
5:14 Need For Speed: Undercover (2008)
5:52 Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2012)
6:33 Half Life 2: Episode Two (2007)
7:08 Portal 2 (2011)
7:39 Grand Theft Auto V (2013)
8:17 Grand Theft Auto IV (2008)
9:12 Fallout 3 (2008)
9:41 F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin (2009)
10:11 Test Drive Unlimited 2 (2011)
10:42 It's done! Conclusion and outro
11:19 IMPORTANT Question for you !
Music used in video:
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Global - Emmit Fenn - Hry
I don't know about me guys, but as a guy who owns a rocketship pc with an rtx 40 series and a Raptor Lake cpu. I still lurk around videos like this.
As Core 2 Quad cpu and a GTX 285 was my first dream build that I couldn't get back in 2009. And I'm thinking of building one right now just to satisfy my first dream.
Damn, exactly the same thing for me ! Planning to build a Core 2 Duo E6750 and to put my 8800 GTX that I still have sleeping somewhere just for the laughs ^^
I am currently building a Core 2 Q9550 with a newer Radeon RX 470 8 GB card, an Asus P5Q board with 16 GB of DDR2 with SSD, and Windows 10 64 bit, and I'm suprised. Absolutely working, no bottleneck at all.
@Koryhun trust me, get rid of that win 10 64 and swap it with a Vista. There are plenty of 2000-2010 games that are worth playing on your pc.
woah love the GPU museum behind you
You are really pushing this system with 1920x1080. Most of us ran 1280x1024 or 1685x1050 back then. But is impressive to see it ran the games above 30 fps with those settings. Also you should start by playing the first FEAR. It is on GOG last time i checked the Platinum version. FEAR 2 and 3 were badly influenced by the consoles of those days.
Disagreement here. FEAR was released in 2005. No duo/quadcore processerors were known to exist back then. The way the author of the video started with Crysis (which was actually released in 2007 but not 2008) to my mind is a perfect start.
@@Undarial 9:45 I said he should start the series with FEAR then play 2 and 3, not test them in that order.
A Q9550 gives you nice results in 1920x1080p in Crysis 2 with the DX11 and High res Patch installed. I tested it a lot back then. You also can Play Mass Effect 3 in Full HD and really high settings. As long as you have a good GPU for it, you will be surprised of the capabilities of this CPU. Sure, today it is a joke, compared to a modern CPU.
Lol I’m still running the Q9550 on my rig. Gonna upgrade to 14700k soon.
@@andrewsimpson7332 i ran it until 2020, together with a GTX 960. Worked quite fine. Then i changed to a ryzen 7 3700x and 2 month ago i changed that to the ryzen 7 5800x3d. The Q9550 was my longest lasting CPU i ever had. Just loved it.
Maybe think about the 13700k, it's cheaper and you will have only a few percents of less power. And set some powerlimits to this CPU, it will take too much if you let it on factory settings.
Neah, it can go on many years from now :) Seeing you in "Core 2 Quad in 2030 - Is Still Good"?
Hahahaha! I'm sure there will be someone covering the topic hahah! Great comment, thanks :) Hope you enjoyed the vid!
the q9550 is imortal
The socket 775 (Core 2 Quad Q9500) gaming computer I have is limited to games up to 2010 on Windows XP. If I were to build a Windows 7 gaming rig, I would opt for a CPU from the 4/5th gen i7 CPU range. But busy with a Windows 98 retro gaming build at the moment
Still gaming on my Q6600. Terrific cpu, what a monster ❤
q6600 + gtx750 ti + 8gb ram and im playing RE4 Remake at 22-30 fps on 1600*1200 with everything on high but the texture size and shadows. Awesome piece of tech indeed
I recently build and sold a budget gaming PC with a Q9650 in it and a r9 270. They were a good match. Alsoo I flashed the motherboard to the latest stable BIOS and installed Windows 10. Left all at stock speed but I put a small coolermaster tower cooler on the processor anyway.
is your 270 at 100% utilization. I would think it could be an overkill for it.
@@krecikowi Both reached 100% The Q9650 is still a 3Ghz quadcore 12 MB L2 Cache. And the amount of cash makes the difference in this case.
I never played F.E.A.R 2 but the first game was very impressive back in the day. I remember PCs struggle to play it well and the gameplay was very good.
For GTAIV and GTAV I suggest either GeForce GTX 770Ti 3GB GDDR5 or the Radeon R9 380X 4GB GDDR5 for a retro style platform like this. Those two cards are just old enough to not be too bad a missmatch for that CPU and motherboard. Both are more reasonable in pricing than their much sought after and pricier flagship cousins from the same generation. Both offer good performance in most if not all games ranging from 2006 - 2016. Both cards have AIB models available featuring better cooling than the reference cards which helps in overclocking to improve performance in titles released in 2015 and 2016 and later. And last but not least, both cards feature some though limited support for DirectX 12(11_1) - GeForce GTX 770 / DirectX 12 full - Radeon R9 380X as well as Vulcan 1.2, Open GL 4.6 and Shader Model 6.5 tor help run games past 2017 all the way to their respective end of life driver support in 2020.
Hope that helps you in a future LGA Socket 770 - 775 build.
You could also try a Socket LGA 1155 - Core i7 3770K w/16GB (4×4GB) G.Skill Trident Z DDR3 2,133Mhz RAM based build with either one of those same cards and literally or nearly double your performance.
Look for these two in particular:
The EVGA GeForce GTX 770 Dual SC W/ACX cooler and 4GB GDDR5 memory runs at 1,110Mhz core clock out of the box and can be found for less than $60 used on Ebay.
Or:
The Sapphire Radeon Nitro R9 380X also sports 4GB GDDR5 memory and can be had for as low as $50 on Ebay. Both cards at that price point are likely under auction so you could end up in a bidding war so be careful.
Thank you man ! For information
I am running this same processor and Im running on Windows 11. I wanted to fix up an old Dell 530 and its been purring along nicely. HL2, and all the 2000 era shooters run great. Only thing is for this test PC, I use a 1030GT, so that limits any harder games. Well done Sir !!!!!!!!
beware not to update to 24h2 or you will get stuck at windows logo
I see that this new release needs a new CPU instruction set. Only thing to do is not upgrade to 24H2, thanks for the heads-up!
I was running a GTX 1050 Ti in my 8Gb Core2quad Q6600 old HP and ran every game until Death stranding came out, so I turned it into my media server with a little quadro K600 for hardware acceleration, and transdplanted the GTX 1050 Ti to a 48GB dual E5620 xeon HP Z600 workstation with 12tb staorage on it. For content creation works fine, but I'm upgrading it soon to dual X5675's and a GTX 1080. And plan on putting the old GTX 1050 Ti again on a Q6600 or on an old i7,
Hello mate!!! Thanks for sharing, it's good to hear people are still utilising hardware that is over decade old :) If it ain't broken, don't fix it :)
in 2014 I upgraded my first pc (it was a hp desktop made in 2007 or 2008) it had a Pentium e2200 3gb of ram and no graphics card. I over time upgraded it to a GTX 630, and then bought a radeon 7770 1gb DDR5, I had it with the pentium for a few months and learned about bottlenecking I then upgraded it to a core 2 duo e8600, with the Radeon 7770 and I upgraded the ram to 4gb. It was a great computer up until 2016-2017. I then built a new pc but i do miss that computer I wish i still had it.
We're in an era where a CPU becomes obsolete because it does not have the newest instructions. Maybe not so much for the Core 2 series, but this is definitely the case for 6-core Gulftown/Westmere Xeons and the Phenom II x6 processors.
I daily drive a modded Xeon E5450 3Ghz, I use it mostly for surfing the web, work and older games, and it still feels snappy, so it will probably be useful for some more years, or until newer Windows stop working on these CPUs and older hardware.
At this point, GTA V has got to be the gold standard in game optimization - it runs on damn near anything.
this was my cpu for a few years never dissapointed i paired it with a radeon r9 280x and i could even play battlefield 1 with no problems or stutters
now i have an i7 8700k and a gtx 1660 super. but i will build myself an xp machine with that config
i have that mobo still running today, fun fact... the p5e logo is a sticker on the mobo, peel it off and it say maximus formula underneath!!!!! its the same board just missing the extra fan headers and the on board start and reset buttons... i soldered them back on!!
I have a Q8400 with a cpuZ score of 230/880 on a HP 8000 and a Phenom II x4 955 on a HP 6005 (overclocked to 3.8 GHz) with a cpuZ score of 190/700+. Funny thing is the Phenom II is performing better in some games. Couldn't find software overclocking for the Q8400.
That Q8400 could very likely run flawless at 3,2Ghz if your mobo support custom fsb and core voltage controls. you would need to bump the fsb to 400mhz and up the cpu voltage a bit and it gonna be much more powerful. I got a 955BE I still use too but it is not that much you can increase the speed on that as with the good ol 775 platforms
Try setfsb
Superb I love these videos. How many GPU’s do you think you have amassed now? Also, what test bench is this you are using? :) With your OS install do you create an image with all of the games already installed so you don’t have to go through it every time? Something I haven’t figured out yet with my multiple setups
Hmmm, many! 50+ I'm using Open Benchtable - can recommend :) Nope, it's a fresh install every time, I let the games download, recently had doubled my ISP speed, made a big difference. I'm only using game saves and Afterburner cfg with USB drive, the rest is all from scratch, every time haha!
@@nexus_tech thanks for the reply I appreciate it! I guess the good thing is most of the older games aren’t too big so it isn’t painful :)
I have a gtx 760 an a intel quad qore q9550 with PQE mainboard what can I upgrade for better performance ?
With a Asus Maximus extreme my q9550 at 3.7 ghz and ddr3 1666mhz (OCZ platinum ) is still fine. With an rx 570 in 1080p (gta 5 high / medium shadows and vegetation ) 60fps ,with some drops, but the cpu does not give up.P.s. Sorry for my bad English
do desktop core 2 duos not have support for DDR3, I have a core 2 duo laptop with DDR3 ram.
Maybe you should do the test with DDR3 1600 Mhz and a little touch of O.C and everthing was too better, i own a q9550 Over clocked at 4.2 Ghz with an 8Gb of ddr3 Kingston at 1600Mhz and there was nothing that the processor can´t handle, of course the normal limitations of the GPU.
I ran an overclocked X5470 (best lga775 cpu) in my first real PC, 4,6ghz for most of it's life and even with 980Ti it keept up like a champ.
would love to re-test it today but sadly sold it long time ago in favour of X79 platform with 2697 V2
Ah man! That must have been awesome setup! Well, an X79 is a different ball game. I get it, I need to get rid of some my stuff too...
Best CPU for LGA775 that isn't a Quad is Xeon X5492.
@@Lukson_PL It's the same silicon but with higher bus, And I don't think 1600mhz vs 1333 would make much of a diffrience above 4,5ghz
@@Lukson_PL As it's LGA771 modded to fit LGA775 (with modded bios), not all LG775 motherboard could take higher X54xx xeon. For my old Asus P5K for example, the best compatible xeon was the X5460 at 3.16GHz. Anyway, it's a cheap and easy upgrade for LGA775 but stock cooler won't be enough.
The best 775 is not a 771 CPU it's qx9650 or the 9770. Period.
Without DXVK 60fps without stutters is impossible on GTA4
did the gtx 285 get vulkan support? or atleast a good one?
Can you check on this matter? We can get better "CPU" performance using the DX11 gpu (Fermi/terascale) versus the DX 9/10 gpu.
Yup - I fell as I saw this with the 3060Ti in some capacity! I'll look this up in more detail
Este es con Fermi GTX 470 y Xeon 5460, czcams.com/video/uMG3DZYyP6c/video.html&ab_channel=FcJose
its wierd how it runs on nfs undercover, i remember long time ago that for some reason i paired a gtx550ti with an old 478 pentium 4, and it ran fine at 60fps on high
Excellent work, and great production value on this video! Friendly suggestion... I think perhaps you should disable vsync for future tests, as enabling it will throw off the FPS figures, especially the 1% and 0.1% lows. And if you test it with your 3060TI like you did in your other video, then there will be no chance of a GPU bottleneck. And if I could make a request to please add CyberPunk 2077 to your tests. ;)
Hello mate! Thanks for your feedback :) Ah, I really wanted CP in that video, could not get it to run under W7 for the life of it! hah! And of course, I wanted to aim for 60FPS at 1080p, I will do so :)
The Q9550 was my second CPU, it's my most loved CPU right on the samerank like my Pentium 4 2.8Ghz wich was my first CPU. It ran for soo long and i had really nice results on 1080p and got it a Zotac 580 amp and a 960 later after the Zotac died. Man, i miss the times i had with this two CPU's. Currently running a Ryzen 7 3700x wich is also a really amazing CPU, but after 3 years i will upgrade it to the Ryzen 7 5800x3d for a last upgrade to my AM4 platform. It is amazing to see somebody playing with this great CPU and pushing it to the limits. And many of the games it ran, still look very good up to this day. Love this Video. 👍❤
Thank you man, glad to hear you enjoyed it :) I always wanted to test Pentium 4, why the heck not! Game testing at lower resolution and with older games would make this CPU look a lot better...for a short moment hah
@@nexus_tech A Q9550 will deliver you nice results in Crysis 2 with DX11 and High Resolution Patch installed. Believe me, i tested it back then. On a Pentium 4, you would need to use an old Monitor too to get the optimal picture to see that. But tests on a Pentium 4, like you said.. why not? It would give us a great laugh when we see the points this CPU will achieve at all the tests. Back then a king, today nothing than a joke in comparison to modern CPU.
I had a Q9550 as well. I ran it 3.8 GHz 1.36V on a 120mm AIO and ASUS MAXIMUS II FORMULA for a backup PC for my former camera guy during LAN events. It ran overwatch and TF2 fine with a GTX 770.
Thanks for sharing, that's awesome 👌
Was thinking of putting my 770 in with this q9550 too lol. It really was ahead of its time I can’t wait to put together it should be able to play games at 1080p no problem I wonder if I should just create my own channel by now I literally have everything to test
Hi. Excellent channel. Greeting from Cuba. Any help for overclocking a Intel Core 2 Quad 9550 on an Asus P5Q-Pro
Hello Alejandro! I'm glad you enjoy :) Of course, there is not that much you need to do. Make sure to replace stock intel cooler and run Prime95 to evaluate temps and stability. What memory are you using ? Keep on adjusting the FSB speed, few knocks at time. It's a lot of rebooting and testing, but eventually, you'll hit 3.5GHz or even more! Great guide here: www.scan.co.uk/images/shops/intel/Intel_Q9550_Core_2_Quad_basic_overclocking_guide.pdf
@@nexus_tech thanks bro. I have a
CORSAIR TWIN2X4096-6400C5C Corsair XMS2 DDR2 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-6400 800MHz 240-Pin Dual Channel, and a Cooler Master cooler airflow around 50 degrades on the cores temp in gaming mode. I will check the guide. Thanks again. New sub.
I first saw GTA IV at 60fps and 1080p max settings with an i5 6600 and a 1070 GTX. I don't know how much lower you can go and still keep 60 fps.
Gtx 780 ti also can do it with no sweat
I had Oc problems with q6600 couldnt pass 3.8ghz 1.6v stable on water. Than I swiched to x5470 and p5q pro ddr3 with 2 sicks of ddr3 ram achieved 4.4ghz on water.
hello there,can i run a q9550 with a g31mobo with stock cooler?will temp and performance be ok?also I have a 200w psu but dont have any gpu,will it be okay?
Hey 👋 Nothing wrong with stock cooler and PSU if you are to run stock. As soon as you OC, both components need upgrading
Use mods for gta 4.
I tried as well and it really needs them.
It s strange cause back in the day i had constant fps with high presets on my q6600.
On an 3rd gen i5 with rx580 game runs decent , with some tweaking, ofc.
Such fast c2q performs much better on ddr3 memory (there are game test showing 10-15fps boost)
Agreed, well, say this grants another revisit of the platform in the near future :)
How well will this game at stock settings with DDR2 667 - 800MHz and a GTX 980?
I'd imagine the 980 would not be happy, the board only supports PCIe 2.0, but then, I used RTX3060Ti which worked okay
@@nexus_tech kk I'm gonna use a Quadro K2200 4GB
gtx 480 or gtx 580
Pls name graphic cart
from P3 to G4400 to E7500 to Q6600 used to Q9550 used to G4600 to i3 10100 to i3 13100 to i5 13500 used and an i7 12700h laptop.
still remember asus P5N-E SLi mobo with SLi selector thingy card and then changed to a beefed gigabyte GA x48 DQ something when i got the q6600 and already had plans for the q9550 for OC.
I hear all the FSB, clocks voltages etc and i dont remember how to use any of these xD havent OCed any CPU after Q9550...
Ive burned so many GPUs / PSUs / Mobos especially couple of G31/41s and some P45s, RAMs and destroyed a lot of HDDs and also was calling Microsoft automated windows activation xD to get genuine key for windows xD
damn time passed...
8:40 use DXVK for GTA4, DX9 will have many stuttering but with Vulkan game is playable even on stock Q8200
DXVK really is a magic bullet that fixes a lot of stutters/issues that previous DirectX had! DXVK is the best.
yes but it needs gpu with vulcan suport :/@@MUSiCK9
@@ViperBenchmarks *Vulkan
*support
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Thank you! :)
I played shadow of tombraider on this processor with radeon r7 250 1gb ddr5
Nice, did you get decent framerates ? :)
@@nexus_tech yes in 720p 30 to 40 fps
@@prathameshlotake1318 With at least High settings?
he killing my pc
Possible GTX 1080TI ?
i do use it with a 1080 ti, works good
I get 1420 cpuz score with X5460 4066mghz asus p5q deluxe
Core 2 Quad series CPUs can't handle 1080p gaming - you won't get more than 40fps (+/- 5), 720p on the other hand no problem ~60-120fps
Can well be install Windows 10 on q9550
Sure
Just change gpu. Like gtx 960 i you will see big change in games. I have this setup but with gtx 960 4GB vram. This cpu can handle more powerfull gpu than gtx 260.
the date is july 27th, 2024, my main pc (that im currently using to write and watch this video) is still running a Q9550 with 8gb of ddr3 @1333mhz and has had a 8400gs, a gt430, a gt730 Gddr5 and finally a GT1030, it has seen windows XP, 7 and finaly 10 and is about to embark on the journey to linux mint and getting a shiny 500gb ssd to replace the 240gb HDD spinning away at 7200Rpms and it was manufactured in 2006 ans has been spinning non stop since 2009, it wiil not be forgotten and will function as a secondary drive as im convinced it is immoral and after spinning for 15 ish years it still has no clicking sounds. can shockingly play most newish games and lowest settings still.
Best GPU I put in my Q9550 is r7 260x or rx 460. That is much better choice :)
How about a 650 ti with q9550?
@@JohnCena-gt3sg I think 750 Ti 4gb would be quite nice (low power), but yes 650 ti gtx should work fine. I would consider r9 270(?) or equivalent. Having 4gb vram would be nice since new titles will use it ALL. I think it would be great for 1080p.
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3.6ghz is not a good overclock. these chips were doing 4ghz and more.
HELP!, I bought Q9550 2.83ghz cpu, and i replace it with intel e3400 2.6ghz, and when i start up pc, i went to bios and h/w monitor to check temperature, and temperature highly start to grow from 60 to 90c, and when it hit 90c, pc shut down? I dont have thermal paste and Cpu cooler,? I just want to test will it be all good? So it is because of Cpu cooler and thermal paste. Or? Btw i have G41-P21 motherboard and 3gb ram and g41 express chipset(Igpu) 128mb.? HELP
Hello mate, make sure to put heatsink on, even if there is no thermal paste, otherwise it will shut itself down due to thermal protection, I'm sure it can survive it, but why risking it 🙂🙂
@@nexus_tech ok, thanks
Lol. Come on man. Why would you think it would run for longer than a minute without a cooler. Never do that. If I'm going to check if a board posts and it's gonna be on for 30 seconds then that's ok to do otherwise don't try to run it for longer. To much of that will cause CPU damage even if it is shutting off before.
@@tronalddump8776 i just "fixed" problem, i just needed cooler like you said, i fixed it months ago! I just did not think hahah
@@mijajlovic_004 I hope so. Lol. Ya I figured you got it since these comments are roughly a year old.
I hawe q9550 working on 4.2ghz
Biostar made the best overclocking boards for LGA775
*Asus.
@@tronalddump8776 Biostar pissed all over Asus when it came to overclocking that era. While their boards didn't survive Gigabyte also overclocked better
@@Javadamutt na. Asus in that era made the best
@@Javadamutt biostar is junk and gigabyte well they are ok.
@@tronalddump8776 That statement alone shows me you couldn't tell your arse from your elbow
You think 2x gtx480 for 35$ usd good deal?
Yes!!!!
Yes
One GTX 480 cost about USD50 here. So yes, good value.
YES
what as? central heating system?
Crysis was released in 2007 not 2008
Thank you! :)
the gta 4 thing, ask randomgaminginHD..... he's done it a few months ago..
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buddy with this setup you just need a better graphics card , use the hd7970/280x or the gtx680/770
after that you will encounter heavy bottleneck and use a ssd
an easy way to get around 10+ fps is to lower the rez to 1600/1200 or even better like 720p
rtx 4070 super
for GTA IV
1600x1200 gaming
zee, not zed
Crysis actually runs better on a pentium 4 3ghz+ 2mb cache.
Since it's optimized better for single cores
You are probably running at a lower resolution and lower settings as that Q9550 has a higher overclocked single core then that pentium has with all cores and threads combined.
@@mealot7613 1920x1200 on very high, with gtx 580 matrix platinum
@@sysierius What would you expect if you are using a gpu thats 3 times as strong? How in the world can you start about the cpu in that case compairing the 2?
@@mealot7613 because he had a cpu bottleneck sometimes, like in crysis.
That’s why I compare it to a older cpu
If I am not mistaken, some settings like view distance affect the CPU load in crysis.
Why test it with such a weak video card? We know how it performs in the old games, put a real high end video card and show us recent games.
Hello mate! I think the GTX 285 was the best card available around the time of release of the Q9550. I did throw 3060Ti in there just for fun in later video with more modern games. Thanks for watching, appreciate your feedback :)
GPU bottlenecks! ;-)
need for speed underground! not undercover.
Why do you play games >10 years old? 2008 is not 2022