Intensive Short Term Dynamic Psychotherapy Part 1
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- Skill building psychotherapy training video for therapists. For more information, go to www.istdpinstit... This psychotherapy video shows how to use intensive short term dynamic psychotherapy to establish a therapeutic alliance. Visit us on Facebook at / dynamicpsychotherapy
Yes, ISTDP was first developed by Habib Davanloo. I agree that people seek this therapy not only to resolve symptoms but to grow and evolve as loving persons.
Great. You may be interested in our future videos on anxiety, where we look at it light of LeDoux's and Damasio's findings that anxiety is triggered by unconscious cues and that it manifests through activation of the somatic and autonomic nervous systems. Jon
Great Video.
Where is Part 2? I cannot find it in the playlist or in your channel
Jon is the man!
Thanks Amber. To find out more about ISTDP, be sure to get my book, Co-Creating Change: Effective Dynamic Therapy Techniques. You'll find it on amazon. Be sure to check out the reviews. Jon
Hi Amber, I am learning ISTDP at the institute and it DOES work! go for it.
Fantastic presentation. I recently met a LPC who uses this technique. I am eager to learn more about ISTDP.
@KAAPAC777 Not yet. But Patricia Coughlin and I will be producing three more training videos next month which will be going up on this site in the next year. We have a whole series planned. So keep posted! Don't forget the dvd you can purchase at the website. And thanks so much for the great feedback!! Jon
Graet ! Really great. thanks Dr. now I've started the book co-creating change. Thank you for your efforts in this weird world :)
Thank you for this very clear and inspiring presentation of ISTDP!
+Ewa Kochanowska You're very welcome!
Fabulous! Thank you so much!
Thank you
Fantastic to see ISTDP style teachings on CZcams. Are there any more like this?
Hi Jon
Thank you so much for taking the time and energy to do all these videos and providing insight into how ISTDP works! This is very enriching and enormously interesting!
I do have a rather specific question about something you said in this video: You portray the indecisive patient and show how the therapist should encounter this defense - by clarifying it and asking to be specific. Is it normal that this "defense work" ("forcing" the patient to a decision by asking a question) would trigger more anxiety in the patient?
+HeyHey We can't force the patient to declare his problem. We can only invite him to do so. If he does not offer a problem, we can point that out and the consequences that result when we don't have a focus for our work. Of course, when we invite him to reveal his problem rather than hide it, this will trigger anxiety IF he wants to reveal his problem. Then we can note that revealing his wish for help triggers anxiety. Just seeing this may help him face his fear of revealing his problem. But the choice is always his.
Go to the link above for the ISTDP Institute. Click on the subscribe button, enter your information, click the button and you'll receive a link to video two and you'll receive a podcast of skill building exercises to help you address defenses during the initial session. Thanks for your interest! Jon
@JonFrederickson I tried this but nowhere to add my details and would appreciate seeing part 2 as well. Thank you for sharing
It seems hypothetical speech could act as a kind of trap for the therapist who wants to give the patient a push in declaring the problem, or having the intention to validate the patient as they beat around the bush .... perhaps assuming the patient is just shy or avoiding pain in getting to the point. If there is rage lurking inside that patient, they could then turn it on the therapist for "putting labels" on them, or "jumping to conclusions" or "trying to control" the conversation.
That's why it's important to want to know genuinely what the patient wants to work on. Our job is not to put labels on the patient, but to get the patient to put into words what he thinks his problem is and how it is a problem for him. The patient's defenses unconsciously control his speech, often preventing him from getting a clear idea of what his problem is.
It was impressive. Thnx for the video!
I have subscribed. Is there a link for part 2 please?
i tried a session with a therapist who practices this method and it was very traumatizing. she viciously and brutally tried to break down my defenses even when i questioned the method and showed clear signs of discomfort and unease. this therapy has a similar effect of if someone were to tell you not to think a certain thought whilst continuously bullying you for thinking that thought. it was not typical therapy at all. i wonder how it could actually help anyone. i am pretty sure one should feel better after the session rather than disturbed. it is definitely something i would not do to a child. this approach lacks transparency with the therapist who has a hidden agenda and does not promote a safe environment to trust the therapist.
As a therapist in training, I can relate to your experience and I think you may have had an experience with a practitioner of ISTDP that was too direct/intense for you and was unable or unwilling to adjust to the signs you had shown. The language employed in these videos is very direct and it can often come across as potentially disrespectful of where the patient is at. Instead of "blocking defenses", some therapists may go right at them and try to unrelentingly destroy them, exactly as you perceived! What I took from these videos were many caveats for each of the proposed interventions, since they need to be tolerable or they'll be ineffective regardless of how focused they are (and even because of that). Some of the proposed responses can be considered condescending and invalidating. Defenses are the problem but that doesn't mean it's the "enemy" that you're at war with it and must destroy "at all costs" ("before anything else"). The defense is a PART of the patient and therefore the patient will feel unsafe, as if you're at war with THEM. You can acknowledge the defense and then tactfully assist the person to find a new way of dealing with things as they internalize the idea that what has been helpful in the past is now being revealed as part of the problem and needs to change. I think this doesn't take that much longer to do if done gently (at 6:10 it only takes a few more words to describe the defense and explain why it's in the way, this is good enough), especially since ironically this focused approach is causing its own kinds of dropout and, also ironically, might make therapists more dettached from the client since they feel free to barrage them with attacks. Their focus can be perceived not only as an assault but also as too narrow - also ironically, since they are using this approach just to go deeper. Thanks for reporting your valuable experience. If possible, try to find a therapist that fits you better and maybe don't give up on ISTDP just yet! Alternatively, AEDP is similar but not so focused on defenses. :)
..is this the therapie nach Habib Davenloo?..btw.. i do beliefe that a person surch for a therapie to because he wants to evolve..not only to solve a problem .. not all but a lot People do..
Cant find part 2 of these video. Can you please the link?
THANK YOU!!!
For part two, go to Intensive Short Term Dynamic Psychotherapy Part 2
Why can't I watch this video clip?
/Regards
Takenby trees Not sure. We haven't had that problem before.
+Jon Frederickson
How to get acess to part 2? I cannot find the place where i could subscribe to the newsletter
@@JonFrederickson The video is set as private. I got the following message: "Sign in if you've been granted access to this video"
thanks
Thanks for help,
btw I am only doing neuroscience, not much interested in healing people! :D
Not going to lie, I’m watching this for tactics to avoid talking about my problems.
I just stopped watching for that reason, but it's tempting to get competitive tactics wise with therapists. That way you can pay to self-sabotage yourself consciously for your own amusement. Heh.
@@avertingapathy3052how about building a life worth living and get your kicks out of things you actually can grow from?😊
I think you just did talk about your problem 😅
Hello Jon
A letter from you to Amir Maneshi has been circulated in Iran. I wanted to know ...
this letter is really from you or not
Thank you so kindly for this video. It is very helpful ~ Natalie Engelbrecht
Of course doesn't work if there is no clearly identifiable problem, cant see this working if a client enters therapy because they lack a sense of meaning in their life.
Interesting videos. However, 50% of patients do not drop-out. It was 40% in the meta-analysis before the last one, in the newest meta-analysis it is 20% (Swift & Greenberg, 2012)
Kim de Jong Thanks for the correction.
i wish you could make a video about howvto seperate super_ego and ego🤗🙄
where is the second part?!
Feels like a Dharma Initiative video
i find it intressting that we shall never explore what other people think what the problem is. in systemic psychotherapy its a mainpoint to explore the system of the patient with circular questions like " what do you think, does your wife, mother, brother etc. think about your problem". to be honest i like to use this Kind of questions in term to get information of the inner objectrelations, thus the answer "my wife may think that.....", always implies the patients view of that answer biased by his inner object-representations.
What other people think the problem is does not necessarily motivate the patient. We need to find out what the patient thinks his problem is and how he thinks it is a problem for him. For that is what motivates him to seek treatment. If the patient doesn't think he has a problem but other people do, he is still not motivated for therapy. So we have to keep searching to find what He thinks is a problem for him that He wants to work on.
Thanks for your answer!
There is actually another question i have
i have sometimes a few problems bringing clients fully into their emotion. I am not quite the person for pressure and collision and so they feel their aggression for example but also feel that its stuck in the throat and not fully here. and then they feel frustrated after me pointing out there defences and them not being able to get thorugh the defence.
then i thougt unlocking the unconcious is maybe like a path to a goal. In solutionfocused councelling by steve de shazer i always ask
How will it be if you have achieved your goal? Whats the picture?
What will be different in your behaviour if you achied it?
How will you change your behaviour to get there?
so i thought about asking a client, to help him to feel his anger to the fullest:
How will it be if you are fully in touch with your anger? What would be your body posture?
What will be different in your behaviour, right here and now in the session, if the anger is no longer stuck?
How will you change your behaviour to achieve that and to get fully in touch with your anger?
or a paradoxical intervention
What will you have to do, to never get in touch with your anger towards your husband and to keep your self-loathing? (for example)
I think that it also may be used as defence by talking about the goal and the feeling instead of feeling, but i think if the process is stuck, maybe its helpfull to ask the client how he thinks he could break through his defences.
I am aware that i will have to try it, to know if its practicable or not but i really would be delighted by your opinion on my technical thoughts
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I give them a pad and ask for them tell me what's troubling them? Write everything down you have come across that's bothering you or is troubling for you to deal with.
Good strategy! If they have trouble, then you can start to help them see the defenses that are preventing them from getting a clear idea of what they want help with.
Jon Frederickson Yes! it really does work.
Grt
Horrible intellectual trash. Exactly the way my therapists defended themselves from thinking. This staring at all the patients mistakes and shortcomings is preventing everybody from understanding anything important. I had no idea of what was my problem when I came to therapy, I thought that when I had told the therapist of the facts he would be able to pinpoint my problem. That never happened. I told him that my brother had died in horrible circumstances and my therapist looked at me in a state of absolute stupidity and asked: So what is your problem. Please! At that intance my main problem was an idiot of a therapist.
What change? The patient is not aware of having to change. And why are you so eager to make them change? To me the whole problem was that the therapist did not accept my problems at all. One can keep ridiculing everything that the patient says. This is a horrible example of therapeutic "interventions"-