Measuring voltage the right way
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- čas přidán 19. 09. 2022
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That's one hell of a socket spaced that far apart.
That’s for the leads inside breaker panel
electrician in training here! believe it or not, we actually measure things other than sockets! crazy right? god its like you didn't even use your brain
@@hvrbros8730calm down buddy. It’s an obvious joke
😂
Hey he’s in training show some respect
I need to see you demonstate using the holders to check sockets. I tried it but just ended up poking holes in my wall😂
Yea please show us an example Einstein
Right lol
Hold one of the leads and stick the other lead the meter then stick them both in the outlet with 2 Hands one hand holding the meter the other holding the other lead
😂😂😂😂
@@bakebookHi, Einstein knew that P = U x I. If he were still alive, he would tell you to start your electrical reconversion. 😅😂
*"Better yet, just put the meter down and **_imagine_** measuring the voltage. That's the safest way."*
LOL
Ah yeah
can you get shocked when using probes?
I use the same philosophy when it comes to love. I've protected my heart, so I need to use my hand
Those holders are there just to safely store the probes when not in use.
Exactly
Can those holders be used to connect to the Leads inside a breaker panel?
…. With enough creativity, probably.
I have never gotten shocked using two hands to test anything. The plastic is non-conducive.
Autocorrect is also non-conducive
Have you ever sneezed while playing chess or been surprised by a cockroach on your knee while having a coffee?
I have and the results were only funny because there wasn’t a high tension power line 15cm in front of my face.
My dad used to say: “the right hand is the right hand. The left is best left at your side.”
As far as I'm concerned EVERYTHING has electrons 😅so I'm sure in some cases plastic won't even save you but this post is just paranoia at its best
😂 Properly rated multimeter tesleeves can handle up to 3000 V. Unless you are using it beyond its capabilities, it will not shock you if you are holding them behind the isolation ring near the tip.
One hand rule is written in blood.
I don't see this happening when using a multimeter CORRECTLY as today's top brand meter leads are insulated or even double insulated like the fluke TL175s.
240 volts defined as 'standard low voltage' in the regs here.
The term varies so much across context and trades its pointless to argue the definitions of high and low voltage. Just worry about primary and secondary, line and load. You'll be fine
@@billrobert3226I’ve always considered low voltage as anything that can’t produce a deadly shock to myself. Although in some special circumstance lower voltages can still be deadly so I don’t usually test this theory. I consider all electrical live or dead to be live and deadly. :P
Don’t tell an electrician 120v is high voltage. They will laugh at you
Eh it's all relative. If we're dealing with 13.2k, we call the medium voltage guys. If someone hooks up all the low voltage on a thermostat, he's gonna ask an electrician to do the "high voltage" in this case 120.
Dont tell a lineman he isn’t an electrician
Lower voltages mean higher currents . Ask an electrician what kills you? Volts or amps.😢
@@Simon.e364 touch 480 volts and tell me how far you fly.
Well here in the uk we’re up at 220 volts
Oh yeah!!! I never seen a receptacle that wide to fit with the holes on your meter
😂😂😂
They wants views
They're meant for breaker boxes.
That was what I was thinking, that is too wide for most boxes and doesn't fit his own example box. Or do I miss something?
Y’all are dump be quit. You think your receptacle is the only place to measure voltage 😂🤡. No body wants to think of the panel that power came from, or maybe the main service disconnect that feeds that panel, or on a large scale the distribution equiptment. OR the transformer that feeds that equiptment. I can go on and on , y’all some keyboard clowns.
That's why I only use one hand when taking a piss. 😎
Wrong. One does not need two hands to complete a path. One hand touching a live circuit can kill you if your body has a connection to ground somewhere else.
Hmm did I say that - I just said it’s safer to use one hand - of course you are always grounded but the resistance is way higher through your feet to ground and the path is not directly through your heart. Yes you can still have current to ground, I never said you can’t. Just safer to use the one hand rule
@@HTMWorkshop You said at the beginning of the clip. Use only one hand. This protects you from creating a path through your heart. No it doesn't. Lots of people have died using only one hand.
@@DannyB-cs9vx Well I agree with what your saying, and appreciate the feedback. I just think the video is not meant to be exhaustive - in other words "do this and you will not ever be in danger" - rather this is one way to reduce the likelihood of a path through the heart. It's a 14s short designed to be one tip - definitely not a replacement for full electrical safety training
@@HTMWorkshopYou could have added the "reduce the likelihood" part in the video. Definitely clears things up with just a few seconds added.
I agree with this and I don't agree with the video maker with his comment to this. You didn't say it was safer. You clearly said one handed will stop the voltage going through your heart. Look you can't say this. Its not ture and its going to end up killing people that belive this. Take the video down before some dies
35 years I’ve never been shocked using a meter, and I do industrial 347/600 is the main voltage in our plant
Brilliant advice.
1983 as 14 year old I separated the 2 parts of my mums 1960s Pink Hairdryer plugged it in threw the switch and bingo the current was going through one arm across my chest down the other. Metal internal was live with 240 v.
2 burnt thumbs. No RCD/GFD in those days. Guess what I became a Sparky.
Damn 1.21 Gigawatts
@stevethomas5849 holy poop i belive you my guy. Ive see some think similar at my meemaws pad at the river bottom after the new dam got built .... hope sparkys alright!!! Quack bang out
I would call you Raiden since 1983 but I don’t think Mortal Kombay was a thing back then
Lol, I am 54 now. I don't remember it but my Mom told me that when I was 2 I took one of her Bobby pins and stuck into a socket.
I distinctly remember juicing myself probably 2 times on a wall receptacle. Luckily our receptacles are only 120v here, but for a 2 or 3 year old, it's potentially deadly.
Edit: I became a sparky too, lol. But I don't like calling electricians "sparky", because if there's sparks, something is terribly wrong.
Klein makes a tester that has the lead holders spaced apart where you don’t have to hold them
High Volage 120 😅
Depends on where you are as im some countries high voltage is over 70v, others over 230, some over 350, other over 1000 ...
@@contytubI think you can die easier with 120 v. 220 v kinda flings you off when shocked. Am I wrong?
@@michaelchaikoski9304 Amperage kills you not voltage
Just wear proper gloves. Provlem solved, sincerely a real Industrial Electrician.
😂
@thefatElectrician Quack bang out
if you asked any other electricians working on low voltage they'd tell you to shutup
@@hvrbros8730yeah ego gets the best of people
Wearing gloves does not obviate the need to use only one hand.
Gotta say I’ve always had a field piece meter with no holders, didn’t realize I was missing out 😂
The one hand rule means on hand at your side not touching anything. If you hold both leads in one hand, and rest on that conduit with the other hand, youve defeated the purpese
Great tip for a non-industry professional. Thank you!
Complete nonsense. Dude has no clue how to use a meter.
Thanks for your useful information
I learned this 43 years ago as a tech , not a engineer. Excellent teacher
People with 1 hand : I see that as an absolute win.
"That's what these little holders are for" *mind blown*
...In other words "DON'T GROUND YOURSELF"!
Real. Talk.......
So I see a lot of people misunderstanding what I am saying here. So let me clarify, putting the probes or a probe in the probe holder while taking a measurement is a way to eliminate the path through the heart issue. So if you put one probe in the probe holders and use you hand to hold the other probe you are safer than using your two hands to hold the probes. Obviously you can’t put both probes in the holders for most applications of measurement (perhaps a couple cases). But keeping one probe in the holder is a very good way to increase safety while taking a measurement.
Just wear proper gloves. Problem solved. Sincerely a real Industrial Electrician.
Or just know what your doing or don’t do it at all yk
That makes a lot more sense hahahaha
How tf are you supposed to measure something with ONE probe?!
For those who want to see what I am trying to describe in practice please look at the 5th picture for this fluke meter to see an example of this done on an electrical bus bar - www.fluke.com/en-us/product/electrical-testing/digital-multimeters/110
He forgot to mention....if you dont use your hands at all, make sure to connect to wifi first. 😂
Can affirm, had 440, 120, and 208 through the heart. Turns out what doesn’t kill you doesn’t make you stronger
You should see how India handles electricity
That's very good advice, I never thought of that
I just got a gardner bender where the probe holders are spaced close enough to check outlets one handed , don't get how it would work with this one
When measuring higher voltages, use a voltage tester instead of a multimeter. Eg Fluke T150. Much more reliable.
😂This Guy is referring to anything higher than a 12 V car battery as higher voltages.
Cordless measure circuit, loop or dipole antenna, capasitive variative via change of epsilon r or distance, RLC f zero variable, distance can variate, measure amplitude signal max value, there you have passive Ep self independent measure probe
Nice - but I want to see you measure socket voltage with those holders.
(Pro secret - don't tell anyone: they're just holders).
Great tip! 👍
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 we have something called guidance note 38 I'm the UK. It covers safe use and suitable test equipment and most notably not using such ridiculous test probes as those shown. Use the correct approved equipment and both hands to be safe then you won't have to worry about your heart.
⚡️ If you are resorting to CZcams 100% for safety knowledge, and believing every word anyone says on here, you are in the DANGER ZONE! 😂
without debating what is high voltage, the one hand rule was taught as one hand in your pocket, the other for dealing with the voltage. thus preventing a path directly through your heart. hand to foot path is NOT directly through your heart. ASE recommends this when dealing with EV voltages....
Watched a dude cross the needles on a relay. Shit went 🫡 real quick
ah, a trick you learned from watching the waterbenders
Omgoshhhh I didn’t know thisss . Thankful for this viedoe
Real electricians ain't afraid to be shocked, lol
There's a difference between expertise and negligence
real electricians are always afraid for being shocked .
I don’t want to get shocked by 277/480. Nope. No thank you.
@@clarencemoore2924 he meant not afraid to die
@@themoorishwarrior1606 die from what?
Also gloves
Yawns. I work with 480v everyday for a decade now. I have yet to see a meter get anyone. 120v is literally childs play when your messing with medium voltage.
Medium voltage at my worksite is 5KV 😂 low voltage is 480 and High voltage out here is anywhere from 13,800 to 50,000 yawns right back at you
@@andyrivas6931staying 10ft away 😅 terrifying
Only time it got me was when I took a voltage reading with one of the probes plugged into the current port. The arc blew a terminal screw into molten metal, and one speck of it melted a little hole on the meter's screen. To this day, it reminds me to never do that again every time I use the meter.
*you're
It's not a competition loser lol
Probably want to have shrouds on your probe tips to 👍🏼
If 120 A.C. is going to kill you already have heart problems😅
Thank you
Use leads with alligator clips on your black lead tied to ground then measure your line with red. Or be in the proper arc rated PPE with the proper voltage rated gloves as NFPA 70E requires.
THANKS MY BRO THATS 2 THINGS I KNOW NOW ABT ELECTRICITY.. THE OTHER THING I KNOW ABT IT , IS THAT THOR CAN SUMMON THAT SHIT ..
AI doesn't know squat about outlets.
Tell me how I'm going to use one hand while testing breakers in a 30 breaker panel
Don’t just make sure you use “one hand” ensure your other hand is not touching anything metal. If possible keep your hand free of touching anything if possible put it behind your back. Doesn’t matter though, I have never had a use for putting my leads in the multi like that ever.
As a kid I got teased many times with 220 v it just shake me and one time I got teased my the big lane that felt after a a storm as a kid curiosity next thing I wake up surrounded by my family thinking am not gonna make it . But thanks God am here
He's right. It's basic
Yea use those holders to ck that outlet, geez Louise 😳
I have a list with pictures of electroboom shocking himself with differend voltages. I ask my brother to compare me if i put my fingers in with the electroboom list. And voila, no meters needed!
Gotta love these tech tips from people that aren’t techs 😂
I use 2 drones that hold the meter and I’m a mile away from the socket using my fpv goggles. I think I’m safe😅
I have been using a Fluke multimeter for years and I did not know they were probe holders. I guess you hold one and attach the other to the multimeter.
Correct, obviously that is not always needed, but when measuring electrical panels or when you want to hold the meter and the probes it saves you from using own hand (so comes in handy 😜)
Use genuine leads those are not safe on mains, Should be fused too.
I’d say the holders are for holding idle probes, not in use lol
Try using GS38 leads!
I've been doing HVAC for over 15 years and I know many many people who have been doing it for 30 and 40 years. I have never heard of voltage taking the path through your heart and out the other side by using two hands and checking high voltage
Well I hope you have heard of the one hand rule…you may not know the physics of the one hand rule but the reason it exists is that if one hand touches hot and the other touches ground (or neutral) then the path of current goes through the heart. If you have never heard of the one hand rule look it up…doesn’t mean you can’t use two hands - I do it all the time …just need to be more careful when poking around with your probes
@@HTMWorkshop right, yeah I have heard of it before multiple times but what I'm saying is I have never seen something like that actually happen to anybody. But I appreciate that information. Most definitely will be more safe out there
@@biblebloopers946 For sure and I have not either, I have seen someones finger get toasted after a battery discharged through a ring...but that is the worst I have seen.
@@HTMWorkshop that's why i wear a rubber ring
@@biblebloopers946 Good call!
Ya because we all have THAT meter. 🤦♂️
1. You cant measure high voltage with a multimeter. Only low voltage
3. Low voltage doesn't kill you even if the path is through your heart unless you are wet
2. Medium and high voltage doesn't need to complete the path through your heart. Once you get very close to it you're dead
MOST IMPORTANT TEST IS TESTING THE METER FIRST.
NEVER TRUST METERS.
DON'T FORGET MURPHYS LAW
How to test meter?
@@juancho1871 With a meter designed to test meters, which you also have to test with a meter to test meters designed to test meters, which... .
This is how to get the job done.
How can you put that in an outlet spread out?
Never thought of that nice tip but i made it 45 years just check your tools
It's funny to read these comments obviously people have no concept of electricity and using a meter
Thanks
Wow! Good to know!!!
That’s good advice if everything you work on is spaced apart the exact same which it never is so wtf lol
Instructions unclear, lick test still in use.
I can tell you, if you are testing high voltage with bare hand, it's going to be a path completed through your heart.
Always use a meter..
I’ve been shocked by a socket more than once. but I was fine. stung in my arm but I always use my right hand which is further from the heart and let go each time it was a problem 🤷🏻♂️
if you’re dealing with bigger than your typical AC outlet (120v) then you should be using other protective equipment if you’re concerned about safety.
you cant use the holder if you ur working with close together receptical holes
Thats why he didnt demonstate.
Whenever I have to measure higher voltages I specifically do it using both hands with the meter I put a slow-blow fuse in, because I would quite like to get some sick leave (which is unlimited here in Finland) or die rather than have to do that. But thanks for the tip though.
I take my boots and socks off for 480.
I tried to measure the voltage on a Tesla coil once and I fried my DVM it was glowing.
The holders are not for that. They are just for holding the test leads when you are not using them.
Those meter leads are not rated for testing mains, Get some decent quality ones.
Those are CAT III /CAT IV leads.... 1000V/600V. They're the industry standard tbh....
@@jonmcdonald6374 Not with insulation that thin, All my meter leads have to be C3/4 And those definitely are not, look more chinesium.
Higher voltages like 120v lol
Electricity takes the shortest path to the ground not through the heart
I've been a controls tech for 20 years....been lit up quite a few times, but never through a meter lead
Unless your checking a meter socket, you’ll be using your hands
I’ll never forget this. Thank you.
Doesn't matter, even with one hand you can still shock yourself, all it takes is a potential difference.
Even better dont listen to people who create content and have no electrical experiance at all
You’re still standing on the GROUND
Please enlighten us how to measure an outlet with the probes 2.5” apart…
Or just follow isolation procedures??
Bro you still have to physically push them in with your hands my guy
So with the holders you set it on the table and touch two wires to it with one hand.
🧐😵💫
I always use two lol 120 isn't high though
I have two but in some cases (such as batteries in a series in an amx4 X-ray machine) it’s easy to slip or make a mistake so it’s a good precise to just use 1 hand. 120 can definitely hit the muscle and make it hard to let go
Here in Europe 230V really made me dance a few times 😄
That’s what the holders are for! Just take the wires off your receptacle and hold them on the probes. One in each hand
I can see one probe in meter holder and one in hand. Hold meter and probe.
110?? We eat that for breakfast in the uk😂 barely a tickle
You can use hot gloves also
Do not take this advice. Although you would likely never be shocked using a quailty meter, using one hand could put you in more danger. Be safe, not stupid.
Yeah it's called one hand Rule.