Cancelled - Titanic 2

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    The RMS Titanic has forever been the most iconic and famous ocean liner to ever exist. It infamously sank on there maiden voyage in April 1912 and ever since has been at the centre of interest and curiosity, popularized many times in pop culture over the last century. With all of that interest, some intrepid individuals have dreamt up their own modern creation and have set out to build replicas of the doomed liner. In this episode, I'm taking a look at some of the better known attempts at building a Titanic II and how almost all of them were eventually Cancelled...
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  • @gerardcollins80
    @gerardcollins80 Před rokem +1261

    It's an utter shame the Olympic was not preserved in permanent dock like the Queen Mary.

    • @dharmayodha4436
      @dharmayodha4436 Před 11 měsíci +80

      Irs true but you know whole world was facing economic crises in great depression. So they had to dismantling it

    • @izu1525
      @izu1525 Před 11 měsíci +88

      problem is that while the titanic and britannic disasters were tragic, they were just big ships at the end of the day, and the olympic had been outclassed multiple times by the end of her life. she was just an ordinary luxury liner. only with the titanic movie the ship gained the traction it holds today.
      think of it like the costa concordia today. if someone decides to make a movie about it in 2097 it would probably be the same in 100 years

    • @INWM-airsoft
      @INWM-airsoft Před 11 měsíci +10

      @@izu1525true

    • @grandpa__gohan919
      @grandpa__gohan919 Před 11 měsíci +40

      ​@izu1525 titanic was always a big deal, not just after the movie, heck if your referring to the james Cameron movie that wasn't even the first film about the titanic it was like the 4th . The ship was always hyped

    • @henrythemuthafuckineighth
      @henrythemuthafuckineighth Před 11 měsíci

      I think they kept the dining hall intact and it’s now a restaurant.

  • @kierancalder8573
    @kierancalder8573 Před rokem +1689

    I think the Titanic 2 has a serious business case, even if it just stayed as a floating museum, it could travel around the world to port cities. Guaranteed to be a huge hit wherever it stopped and you would never have to worry about it getting old for the locals since you'd just move it.

    • @VanillaMacaron551
      @VanillaMacaron551 Před rokem +72

      Sure but don't let Clive Palmer anywhere near it.

    • @countlitmogaphil392
      @countlitmogaphil392 Před rokem +25

      Woahhh, and atleast a small part of it as a super luxurious and expensive hotel... Bruh I wish I had the money to build this 😂

    • @charlesyoung7436
      @charlesyoung7436 Před rokem +41

      I toured the SS "United States" and attended the week long auction of its furnishings in 1984 at a pier in Norfolk, VA. She was the fastest liner ever built, with over four times the horsepower of the "Titanic" (being government subsidized as a potential military troopship). She's about a hundred feet longer, and slightly broader, but weighs less due to her aluminum superstructure. After being towed to Turkey where she was gutted and the asbestos used in her construction was removed, she was returned to Philadelphia where a group is trying to save her from the scrapyard. I have often thought it would have been easy to convert her into a "Titanic" replica due to the similarity in the size of both vessels. Modifying the sharply raked bow of the "United States" to look like the vertical bow of "Titanic" would bring her length down, and using only one of her two boiler rooms to power two of the four propellers would still allow her to make more speed than a modern cruise ship. I'd really love to see the "United States" preserved, in one form or another.

    • @dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621
      @dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621 Před rokem +22

      They're actually planning to build a replica in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada. It would only be the front half and would only be a floating museum, but it would probably be a big hit. There's a Titanic museum in Halifax and its also where a lot of the graves for Titanic victims are located.

    • @rebl7355
      @rebl7355 Před rokem +19

      "a huge hit" nice choice of words monkaS

  • @KSI_Revelations
    @KSI_Revelations Před rokem +289

    The RMS Olympic is a legendary ship with a legendary history, and should have Never been scrapped.

    • @ivywt
      @ivywt Před rokem +11

      true

    • @deadlyplumjellyproductions
      @deadlyplumjellyproductions Před rokem +22

      true but think of it from the white star's perspective. its the great depression. the rms olympic is sailing with less than 20% capacity, and youre loosing money from it. it's also becoming out dated, and so, being in need of money, they scrap it. of couse we got to save some parts but back then keeping it as museam ship just wouldnt have made sense.
      although i would like to see it today if it still existed

    • @MicklowFilms
      @MicklowFilms Před rokem +7

      Agreed, they should have kept that one and would’ve been the closest thing to experiencing Titanic as you can get.

    • @MicklowFilms
      @MicklowFilms Před rokem

      @@deadlyplumjellyproductions You would think they would’ve kept the one lucky ship that survived out of the all the ones they sank. As a historical landmark at least in honor of Titanic victims. SS United States still sits at a port in Philadelphia. I imagine the same could’ve been done with Olympic.

    • @deadlyplumjellyproductions
      @deadlyplumjellyproductions Před rokem +4

      @@MicklowFilms well not really. The SS United States was built in the 50s, not during the Great Depression, when the White Star Line was in desperate need of money. By then, other ocean liners heavily outdated the Olympic class ship.

  • @Hiro_Trevelyan
    @Hiro_Trevelyan Před rokem +180

    If anyone is interested, there's a project to entirely recreate her virtually, in the game "Titanic Honour and Glory". They're doing an incredible job at investigating the real Titanic to recreate her perfectly, as she was.
    It's also much more affordable than a cruise, as long as your computer can run it.

    • @tareskisloki8579
      @tareskisloki8579 Před rokem +15

      Plus you can see parts of the ship that would never be allowed on a real cruise.

    • @derekheeps1244
      @derekheeps1244 Před rokem +3

      Titanic did not 'do' cruises : she was an Ocean Liner and designed to transport people between continents .

    • @tareskisloki8579
      @tareskisloki8579 Před rokem +18

      @@derekheeps1244 cruise/voyage, it's just semantics in this application. The context of a ship on a journey remains the same.

    • @leejamiemellor
      @leejamiemellor Před rokem +3

      @@derekheeps1244actually she was a mail ship, thats literally her name, she just happened to carry passengers too💀

    • @supers0nic77
      @supers0nic77 Před rokem +1

      ​@@leejamiemellor all that poor mail, RIP

  • @Auxiliary88
    @Auxiliary88 Před rokem +1292

    As someone who lived in a town that had a mine owned by Clive Palmer. That project was doomed, the guy cuts and runs leaving debts behind him.

    • @rogersmith7396
      @rogersmith7396 Před rokem +42

      Trump?

    • @AussieTVMusic
      @AussieTVMusic Před rokem +125

      @@rogersmith7396 Trump like. He spent $100 million on the last election and didn't win one seat.

    • @thepolishnz
      @thepolishnz Před rokem +119

      typical Palmer. 'we don't want to give money to China!'.
      also Palmer. I'm using a Chinese company to do this

    • @barrydysert2974
      @barrydysert2974 Před rokem +17

      i read the other comments and feel badly for you all. Business and politics have always had greedy, nasty, rotten portions. Put all that power in one place
      }TRUMP{
      and you create a black hole in your society. i can feel my country, the Great Melting Pot dis-integrate around me.
      Thank God you good people didn't cross the event horizon like we did!!! May God grant you the wisdom we learned too late!
      💜🙏⚡️

    • @zachlee3945
      @zachlee3945 Před rokem +48

      Channels Trump so much that he has billboards of him that has "make Australia great" all over the place.

  • @Interitus1
    @Interitus1 Před rokem +3136

    That's my biggest problem with anything Titanic related. People forget that this is an actual story about people who died. I've been to the Titanic graveyard in Halifax. It's a solemn place. There are graves of children, of literally entire families.

    • @XenaBe25
      @XenaBe25 Před rokem +218

      Agreed. I read about weird Leo DiCaprio fangirls visiting that place, thinking that the character was true to the real Jack Dawson... just no. I don't mind that the writers tweaked some of the details to make the story more relatable, tho. I like that they went to so much trouble to point out the horriffic classism that killed so many innocent women and children. I like the nod the movie gave to the Captain and the shipbuilder. I liked the (fictionalized) reference to the French Revolution in the story of the diamond. I loved the sets and the COSTUME PORN. Anything set between 15thc and WWII if it's well done. I love old architecture and clothing :) But I know the difference between reality and movies.

    • @yuvalzauberman5178
      @yuvalzauberman5178 Před rokem +168

      @@XenaBe25 the passengers on the titanic didn’t board the boats by class. In fact, the crew actually did their best to allow easier access for third class to the boat deck. Actually almost all men of second class died while some of third class survived. The reason so many people from third class died is because their section was located far beneath the boat deck so they couldn’t find their way up. The crew did their best to help them tho.

    • @mand5422
      @mand5422 Před rokem

      Who forgets? I don't know anyone that forgets about the deaths and tragedy, genius. So stop the fake empathy...you just sound silly.

    • @AlydiaRackham
      @AlydiaRackham Před rokem +103

      @@yuvalzauberman5178 YES. That's exactly right. The crew had no desire to see ANYONE drown.

    • @DeerBonesBaby
      @DeerBonesBaby Před rokem +110

      @@yuvalzauberman5178 but the fact that the 3rd class was so far below deck WAS classism. Not even mentioning how the doors were locked periodically to stop them from mingling with the upper class. Of course the crew didn't want anyone to die, it was just the set up of the boat itself that lead to some unfortunate deaths

  • @enterprisespatton6549
    @enterprisespatton6549 Před rokem +574

    Here’s an idea: if you build a replica, don’t turn it into a cruise ship. Rather, turn it in a museum to show people what it was like for a lot of passengers struggles to escape the ocean liner. If you do it, do it in its birth place and do it by the company who originally built it (Harland & Wolff) the fee for the museum would go strictly to pay for maintenance of the museum and preservation of artifacts.
    It’s better then doing it the wrong way.

    • @finnanmaxwell
      @finnanmaxwell Před 11 měsíci +10

      There's something kinda like that in pigeon forge TN

    • @enterprisespatton6549
      @enterprisespatton6549 Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@finnanmaxwell is it just a museum or is it a simulator?
      Either way, I get what you mean. my idea would probably be too costly, so the one in Tennessee is one of the closest things we got to what I was thinking of

    • @finnanmaxwell
      @finnanmaxwell Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@enterprisespatton6549 yeah, its a museum

    • @Eddie-mo2wu
      @Eddie-mo2wu Před 11 měsíci +2

      I'd probably have either a panic attack or a nerdy breakdown the second I stepped on board. That being said I think that's one of the best ways to go about it- the ship already gives off a semi-ominous vibe, just due to us knowing how it all ends, so why not harness it?

    • @pumpkensdiapers1417
      @pumpkensdiapers1417 Před 11 měsíci +1

      This is an awesome idea!

  • @NoSlow78
    @NoSlow78 Před 11 měsíci +26

    We have a Titanic 2 story now, with the Titan submersible going down.

    • @goodnightmyprince6734
      @goodnightmyprince6734 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Could do movieon the empress of ireland

    • @PhluXx1
      @PhluXx1 Před 10 měsíci +3

      ​@@goodnightmyprince6734it sunk in 14 minutes so it would be a very short movie.

    • @ericalba5756
      @ericalba5756 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Plus the sequel, where the ice-preserved body of Jack Dawson rises from the deep and reanimates.

  • @microsoftpain
    @microsoftpain Před rokem +974

    I remember hearing about this back in 2016. I used to be fascinated with the Titanic growing up and was excited to see where this would go. Year after year, the maiden voyage kept getting delayed. I'm not really surprised that it's not going anywhere. Maybe it's the world's way of saying: "Don't do this," given the ship's tragic end.

    • @Bertramel
      @Bertramel Před rokem +1

      Same

    • @AnEverydayGamer
      @AnEverydayGamer Před rokem +14

      I remember hearing about it in 2012 and thought it would be amazing

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work Před rokem

      It always was a only a Scheme to scam Investors

    • @RubyMVmistress
      @RubyMVmistress Před rokem +4

      Yup yup, back in 2012 I heard about it and later put money down for it. So I could go on it. I mean that was like 10 years ago. I would've really love to go on it though.

    • @gerardeggenburger5386
      @gerardeggenburger5386 Před rokem +1

      Same

  • @wolfmoonstudios7901
    @wolfmoonstudios7901 Před rokem +680

    Honestly... I'd love to sail on a replica of her, with all honor and respect to those who were lost while I'm sailing. But if we could even just get a 1:1 scale recreation and have it dedicated as museum and such, that would be pretty cool too - but not a hotel/museum. Just a straight out museum. Not just a handful of rooms, but the whole ship. To be able to see how it was. Because currently the real ship is degrading faster and faster. Some estimates put the wreck as disappearing by 2030.

    • @PRRS08
      @PRRS08 Před rokem +56

      I would seriously love that. To be able to walk thru the ship. Ahhh I'd never sleep on a remake. It would feel wrong

    • @Igstormchaser
      @Igstormchaser Před rokem +24

      Closest thing we have is the museum in Tennessee

    • @cds401
      @cds401 Před rokem +23

      The real ship is just a huge rust bucket by now

    • @shannynmartin3157
      @shannynmartin3157 Před rokem +33

      To be fair, I've read that the wreck isn't actually going to disappear anytime soon. Apparently that is just something James Cameron says to get money for more dives to the wreck. Most of the wreck should remain intact for at least the next hundred years.

    • @jamescrab4110
      @jamescrab4110 Před rokem +7

      Il remind you in 8 years if its still there.

  • @ghosticmystic
    @ghosticmystic Před rokem +56

    James Cameron has done so much work on the titanic, he has so many documentaries investigating it and talking to descendants about how he portrayed their ancestors and what he got right and wrong and how while it was a romanticized story he wanted it to be as accurate as possible to history. It's how they discovered what happened to the main grand staircase.

  • @lorigarza9971
    @lorigarza9971 Před rokem +378

    I had hoped for years they would do this. Would have been so awesome to watch it sale into NY since the original never had a chance to. I think if they did this it would make a fortune in cruises for Titanic enthusiasts like myself. I have been fascinated with it since I was a kid.

    • @judydenver5362
      @judydenver5362 Před rokem +27

      But, The Olympic, her virtually identical TWIN, sailed into New York, all the time, as she was identical. I think she was more beautiful, because she lasted!

    • @victorsamsung2921
      @victorsamsung2921 Před rokem +18

      @@judydenver5362 Olympic .... also known as "the old reliable". Definitely my preferred choice as a name now for recreating the Olympic-class steamliner. Calling it Titanic II would create too much of a controversy on the actual ship that sank, and would perhaps amount to stamping on someone's grave.
      Since the Olympic was unfortunate in that it ended up as a victim of the Great Depression and got scrapped for its metal at a junkyard, but with an impeccable career as an oceanliner and troopship, would make it much more honorable as a service to recreate her.
      Also, following the sinking of the Titanic in 1912, the RMS Olympic went through a big refit as well. Including adding all the luxuries that Titanic had, like the Café Parisien etc. Knowing Titanic was about 1.000 tons heavier, but was soon equaled by Olympic during her refit.

    • @nicoleyork2980
      @nicoleyork2980 Před rokem +10

      I find it a bit disrespectful to the people that died on the original to be honest…

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    • @derekheeps1244
      @derekheeps1244 Před rokem +1

      Olympic SAILED into New York many times ; along with Lusitania , Mauritania , and of course Aquitania , which was a larger ship than her two sisters and comparable in size to the Olympic class .

  • @msdemeanor3797
    @msdemeanor3797 Před rokem +567

    I'm Australian and I can safely say that Clive Palmer is full of it; lots of announcements but no action. Ever.

    • @kosh6612
      @kosh6612 Před rokem +1

      I was shocked che3cking on it recently the hull had been laid.. totally shocked

    • @tjoonatv2848
      @tjoonatv2848 Před rokem +23

      @@kosh6612 Different project. Clive's ship never left paper. The one being built is another Titanic replica for a theme park which is still in progress. However, it will never sail.

    • @luckygamer4564
      @luckygamer4564 Před rokem +2

      Agreed

    • @springbok4015
      @springbok4015 Před rokem +5

      That’s Clive Palmer, the “national treasure” he is.

    • @STALINGRAD7
      @STALINGRAD7 Před rokem +1

      Can you guys give him a huge punch in the face for this, my wife & i are huge titanic fans and i have been secretly planning on going on the ship since 2012 when they announced it. Kinda figured that this isn't happening around 2018. But being certain now, boils my blood. That fat bastard.

  • @pelnapkins4379
    @pelnapkins4379 Před rokem +214

    The depiction of Titanic sailing past the Twin Towers. Quite poignant that.

  • @Adrian-wd4rn
    @Adrian-wd4rn Před rokem +142

    Biggest issue no one talks about. It's incredibly unlucky to give a ship the same name of a sunken ship, especially a ship that had many deaths. It's just bad juju, and I doubt they'd find a captain to sail it.

    • @Sharon_L_W
      @Sharon_L_W Před 11 měsíci +11

      Ya. I’ve heard that sailors are very superstitious when it comes to the sea, and there are definitely things they consider bad luck. I imagine this would be right up there with things they wouldn’t go near.

    • @staralchemist129
      @staralchemist129 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Yeah it was always insane to me that TWO Essex-class carriers were named after sunken Yorktown-class carriers. But, hey, both of them are museums now

    • @gregzucco2508
      @gregzucco2508 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@staralchemist129Correct 2 Yorktown class carriers, Yorktown and Hornet were Essex Class Carriers, however Lexington & Wasp were also Essex class carriers named after sunken ships,numerous other ship, such as the Australian cruiser Canberra that was sunk however a new US Cruiser was named Canberra to honor on Australian allies.

    • @brainstewX
      @brainstewX Před 10 měsíci +2

      The biggest issue is superstition?

    • @lilyhawthorne1196
      @lilyhawthorne1196 Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@brainstewXhey in some parts of the world people are willing to kill for superstition. They probably could find someone to do it, but I think for a lot of people boarding a replica of titanic just seems like tempting fate. I don't know if it's enough people to make a replica unprofitable, though

  • @zucchinicup
    @zucchinicup Před rokem +126

    As someone who grew up down the road from Palmer’s resort and remember constantly hearing about his batshit projects, I remember seeing ads for this on the back of my local newspaper. Doesn’t mean I still didn’t feel some sort of whiplash seeing him appear on my screen. Great video!

  • @ajvark
    @ajvark Před rokem +276

    Dang idk how James Cameron would follow that one up

    • @kobra6660
      @kobra6660 Před rokem +17

      There's actually 3 titanic cartoon movies that exist and they're all awful

    • @speedy7892
      @speedy7892 Před rokem +8

      Someone actually did make a Titanic II movie. I've seen some of it and it bombed HORRIBLY. I think you could find it on some streaming sites

    • @Montoya2005
      @Montoya2005 Před rokem +8

      Titanic II : Jacks Revenge

    • @aresef
      @aresef Před rokem +2

      There actually is a Titanic II movie. It’s a SyFy movie about a ship christened just that. It’s bananas.

    • @omarbaba9892
      @omarbaba9892 Před rokem

      Asylum did😂
      Twice

  • @lumberc
    @lumberc Před rokem +106

    This one hurt, I remembered being so hyped for this

    • @twiztidyournutz
      @twiztidyournutz Před rokem

      Because Titanic 1 was a good idea?
      If you like insurance fraud, I guess.
      Sink the already damaged Olympic, call it Titanic. No one will know.

    • @twiztidyournutz
      @twiztidyournutz Před rokem

      @@tonewheel1773 😶 bhole of a dude sounds like

  • @thefallofoscar
    @thefallofoscar Před 11 měsíci +12

    the algorithm sure is funny, this vid was not recommended until now LMAO

  • @juanmelendezrivera6085
    @juanmelendezrivera6085 Před rokem +12

    Rebuilding an antique luxury ship is too expensive. Who's going to ride on it? Let the name Titanic stay as part of history. Rest in peace.

  • @L33tSkE3t
    @L33tSkE3t Před rokem +750

    I think people don’t realize, compared to modern Cruise Ships, Titanic is comparatively small and would likely be less than smooth sailing compared to the massive floating city sized ships of today.

    • @m.williams4971
      @m.williams4971 Před rokem +41

      Can you quantitate “less than smooth sailing”, and if you don’t mind my asking what are your qualifications?
      Not to mention the function of this ship isn’t to become a massive port-to-port cruise ship anyway.

    • @henrythemuthafuckineighth
      @henrythemuthafuckineighth Před rokem +107

      The titanic was built for Trans-Atlantic travel while today’s modern cruise ships are built for port to port travel.

    • @richardgrace5043
      @richardgrace5043 Před rokem +35

      @@m.williams4971 you dont need "experience" to understand juat a brain, some common sense and a kindergarten level understanding of hydrodynamic...

    • @starchild7820
      @starchild7820 Před rokem +6

      Titanic was enormous what are u talking about it was one of the largest city wide ship in the entire world u can see it from a town 100 miles down

    • @hevendor958
      @hevendor958 Před rokem +16

      *Titanic is even smaller than many of the largest ships, even compared to the longest vessel, Seawise Giant*

  • @jwrailve3615
    @jwrailve3615 Před rokem +44

    They have talked about “titanic 2” being debuted every year of my entire life

    • @operator91210
      @operator91210 Před rokem

      I don't understand why not just build a regular cruiser and just slap Titanic on the side and people would fall for it

    • @jwrailve3615
      @jwrailve3615 Před rokem

      @@operator91210 I always found it so crazy with all the technology in the world, and yet our technology is considered too modern to rebuild former cruise liners, historic steam locomotives, etc. it’s kinda like if 10,000 Irish men built a ship rivet by rivet with a hammer than they can build a titanic with a 3D printer likely more exact to the blueprints than the original itself.

    • @operator91210
      @operator91210 Před rokem

      @@jwrailve3615 I think the problem isn't the technology, it's all the old trade masters that used to do it have died off. So efficient techniques that were used to assemble said products is all lost skill because their grandchildren didn't take up their trades. few reproductions have been made, mostly old cars re-manufactured from scratch. I believe there was a steam locomotive that was built from scratch that took 20 years to assemble and fabricate (A1 peppercorn I believe)

    • @jwrailve3615
      @jwrailve3615 Před rokem

      @@operator91210 they are building from scratch the T-1 steam loco, 2-2-2-2 wheel configuration, I feel like if that project goes well we will see a huge progression in passion restoration projects across the country, despite all the economic woes I think we as a country are more nostalgic than ever for things before our time of the previous world.

  • @Areekurou
    @Areekurou Před 11 měsíci +46

    I’m not a big believer in bad luck, but when it comes to Titanic I fully believe the ship and any projects having to do with it are jinxed. Obviously, the Titanic itself sunk and any projects wanting to build a 1:1 scale replica suddenly lose their funding at some point. There was a cruise remembering the 100th anniversary of the sinking that tried to sail on the exact days of Titanic’s maiden voyage and serving recreations of the first class menu in its restaurants but had to return to port only a day later because someone had a heart attack on the ship and, I believe, passed. Even James Cameron’s film ran into several issues: their food was somehow spiked with PCP sending both Cameron and Bill Paxton to the hospital, Kate Winslet got hypothermia and almost drowned, two stunt actors were almost crushed during the sinking scene, etc. I think it’s best to remember it for what it was - a tragedy - and not try to romanticize it by building a second Titanic or turn it into a theme park attraction.

    • @mr.monocle4812
      @mr.monocle4812 Před 11 měsíci +6

      Wise words

    • @Ultimate_Lyfe
      @Ultimate_Lyfe Před 11 měsíci +7

      and now the titan submarine

    • @bsmccrunner4
      @bsmccrunner4 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Who really cares? It is a tourist site now. Many “sacred” places are tourist sites. We learn and can enjoy them. Why should we forget

  • @jouhanneus
    @jouhanneus Před rokem +59

    I really hoped that Palmer’s plans would come to fruition. I’m a Marine Engineer, and wanted to apply for an engineering position on Titanic II. My grandfather’s uncle survived the actual disaster, and I had a slim hope that that would give me a inner track to employment😄 Oh well.

    • @shaynewheeler9249
      @shaynewheeler9249 Před rokem

      Titanic engine cylinder engineering room

    • @leeriches8841
      @leeriches8841 Před rokem

      He's a showman, full of empty promises and wacky ideas that would be impossible to see the light of day.

    • @shaynewheeler9249
      @shaynewheeler9249 Před rokem

      Titani marine diesel fuel

    • @jouhanneus
      @jouhanneus Před rokem +1

      @@leeriches8841 Yeah, I'm getting that impression… Apparently he's been hyping up several highfalutin projects in Australia and other places, that never turn into anything.

    • @sheebathefunnyrescuedog692
      @sheebathefunnyrescuedog692 Před rokem +5

      As an Australian I can tell you that Palmer is an embarrassment to this country.

  • @Ozymandias54
    @Ozymandias54 Před rokem +747

    It’s sad that many projects like these never end up happening.

    • @Ozymandias54
      @Ozymandias54 Před rokem +14

      Oh my goodness I never expected there to be this many likes thanks everyone!

    • @Vanessa-pu9dl
      @Vanessa-pu9dl Před rokem +13

      it’s only 84.

    • @Ozymandias54
      @Ozymandias54 Před rokem +11

      @@Vanessa-pu9dl that’s because every time I do a comment usually it barely gets any likes.

    • @JoeWaylo
      @JoeWaylo Před rokem +5

      Sad but true. The latest update on Wikipedia said "Palmer began to doubt the economic viability of the ship once initial interest and curiosity had worn off." There's even fan videos making jokes about Titanic returning even Jack coming back alive like a Zombie.

    • @notnice94
      @notnice94 Před rokem +6

      They were never planned to actually happen. It was just one big PR stunt, both times.

  • @tayzonday
    @tayzonday Před rokem +2400

    The biggest cruise ships now are much larger than the Titanic. It would lose money to build a ship that way instead of the floating hotels that are most popular.

    • @captainpalsy2092
      @captainpalsy2092 Před rokem +41

      Not in 1912

    • @robertfletcher3421
      @robertfletcher3421 Před rokem +75

      Or would it be like luxury trains like the Venice-Simplon Orient Express?

    • @miamidolphinsfan
      @miamidolphinsfan Před rokem +399

      you are missing the whole point of it....the EXPERIENCE of being as close one can get to the iconic experience of being in 1912

    • @Round_Slinger
      @Round_Slinger Před rokem +198

      They were going for an authentic looking titanic, not looking for the most revenue.

    • @Round_Slinger
      @Round_Slinger Před rokem +23

      @@miamidolphinsfan Exactly 💯

  • @arsenal-slr9552
    @arsenal-slr9552 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Never underestimate how much people from Asia love the movie Titanic. I have many coworkers/ friends from Laos & Vietnam, and that movie makes them cry like little kids.

  • @rockeraaj
    @rockeraaj Před rokem +164

    I'm honestly shocked that no one has yet built a cruise-worthy replica Titanic. If it ever happens, it will be a huge success.

    • @rikupv
      @rikupv Před 11 měsíci +16

      perhaps not, because around the time of the titanic the quickest way to traverse the atlantic was via cruiseship. However now that's obviously not the case. It would be cool, but I hardly believe the ship would stay operational for very long when the novelty wears off.

    • @roycem4945
      @roycem4945 Před 11 měsíci +14

      remember - Titanic was transportation (commerical airplanes weren't invented) and Titanic has three classes - So who wants to stay in 2nd & 3rd class rooms which look like jail cells. And the 2nd and 3rd class dining rooms looked like a warehouse etc..

    • @driftsyurcus8550
      @driftsyurcus8550 Před 11 měsíci +29

      ​@@rikupv titanic has a big fan base, if ppl are willing to pay 250,000 to see the titanic from a sub I'm pretty sure people would love to travel on the ocean with titanic

    • @nickwebb9937
      @nickwebb9937 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@driftsyurcus8550exactly

    • @clorindatine2610
      @clorindatine2610 Před 11 měsíci +6

      Sameee
      A comment above you said they should rebuild the titanic, not make it a ship that can go on water but into a museum so people would get the feel of it if what it was like inside. It’ll make me feel a little uneasy. I’d constantly be thinking people who lost their lives. It shouldn’t really be a tourist attraction. Respecting the 1,500 people- they did not make it off that ship

  • @IndeedBeni
    @IndeedBeni Před rokem +220

    Palmer's Titanic II was apparently designed by Deltamarin. They've designed a lot of cruise ships (the Oasis class for Royal Caribbean for example) and other ocean-going vessels and they're quite good at what they do, so that part of the project was legit at least.

    • @ashleighelizabeth5916
      @ashleighelizabeth5916 Před rokem +10

      Yeah it looks like it, it's just the business model that was completely broken...

    • @ajplays7241
      @ajplays7241 Před rokem

      We also would’ve had Twin Towers II if One WTC wasn’t created

    • @derekheeps1244
      @derekheeps1244 Před rokem +1

      Designing cruise ships and ocean liners are two entirely different disciplines ; the only ocean liner in the world today is the RMS Queen Mary 2 ( the flagship of the Cunard Line ) and entirely different in design and purpose from a cruise ship .
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Mary_2

    • @adinacoomber1571
      @adinacoomber1571 Před rokem

      Palmer is a special kind eccentric AH to be honest. He’s not quite a Trump clone, but he’d be in that quadrant

    • @oufukubinta
      @oufukubinta Před rokem

      ​@@derekheeps1244 It's not the only one - that's a gimmick. There's another one coming soon called Queen Anne

  • @angienorthey
    @angienorthey Před rokem +434

    I remember when the wreck was discovered back in 1985 and how poor a state it was in. Over the years I've watched it deteriorate and I've always thought a replica should be made with the same interiors and fittings as on the original Titanic. As a history and Titanic nut, I would definitely visit it and sail on it.

    • @toddkurzbard
      @toddkurzbard Před rokem +8

      I do too. My father told me and I thought, "Yeah. Right. You're pulling my leg."
      I thought the same thing in December 1980 when he told me John Lennon (I'm a FANATICAL Beatles' fan) had been killed.

    • @STALINGRAD7
      @STALINGRAD7 Před rokem

      I would too.

    • @jdrs4214
      @jdrs4214 Před rokem +12

      I think the Titanic is better off being re-created virtually and graphically by brilliant video game developers. See “Titanic Honor and Glory.”

    • @STALINGRAD7
      @STALINGRAD7 Před rokem +6

      @@jdrs4214 well, thats the only feasible option we have rn.

    • @opera_gangster
      @opera_gangster Před rokem +1

      I wholeheartedly agree. The Titanic is something I’ve spent my life researching about, and would do anything to stay or at least visit a replica with all the traditional fittings. However, who knows how feasible that would ever be. I’ve been to both the titanic museums, which as far as I’m aware are unfortunately the closest thing we have, but even those are nothing like you’d see in a true replica.

  • @judydenver5362
    @judydenver5362 Před rokem +11

    Thank you so much for doing this Historical piece! I had searched recently, to see if I could find any information on both of these projects. I actually also heard about a 3rd one, another landlocked one, that i had seen on Google maps, but i guess it was cancelled.
    I wanted to hear this, MAINLY because, it is THE OLYMPIC, that I treasure, and cared about. NOT the Titanic.
    I breaks my heart, that no one had the wisdom, the forsight, to preserve that gorgeous ship!!! It was nearly identical to the Titanic, and pictures of it were often used, to show people what the Titanic looked like, even for reference photos for the Titanic film. The beautiful staircase, the irreplaceable woodwork, etc., etc., all carelessly destroyed at a scrapyard!!!! It turns my stomach!!!
    But The Olympic ship is the real star, of this line, as she survived and thrived for so long, even with a couple of collisions in her history. She made so many happy memories, and helped our troops, during the war, too.
    I really wish that you would do a whole feature on her, if you haven't, already, and i wish she would be honored more often than the Titanic, because the Titanic, unfortunately, is a grave, a cemetery, for over 1,500 people, never had any successful history, and was merely heavily romanitcised in a largely fictional movie.
    I'm glad you featured it. (The Olympic). I love hearing anything about her, because that Ship is the one that should have been saved, and possibly still being run, today, as an historical ship, or at the very least, protected and preserved, forever, like The Queen Mary, on dry land as a treasure, a museum. I have spent tons of time, on the Queen Mary. I love it!!! Even pretending to be on a voyage, with my wonderful, fun mother!!!
    Thanks again!!! 😀

  • @loretta_3843
    @loretta_3843 Před rokem +7

    "National living treasure"? I've lived in Australia all my life and don't even know where I'd find someone who'd think of Clive Palmer fondly let alone like this 😳

  • @allybearbear
    @allybearbear Před rokem +89

    I would love to see you do a video on Owens Lake, California. The entire town became a dust bowl after the Owens River was diverted to Los Angeles in the 1920s. The lakeside resort town was reduced to a decrepit mostly abandoned town in the desert. The town eventually sued the state over the bad air quality and won, so it costs millions of dollars a year to maintain it.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Před rokem

      next thing you'll see is someone trying to make a coasta Concordia 2 cruise ship🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @jurassicpeter
    @jurassicpeter Před rokem +78

    Any replica of the Titanic, be it digital or real, should have a way to honor the lives lost on the original ship.
    Be that a memorial aboard a real vessel or a text-scroll in a video game.
    Its imortant to remember the story of the ship, but its more important to remember those who perished along with it

  • @Eddie-mo2wu
    @Eddie-mo2wu Před 11 měsíci +1

    I had a whole nerd paragraph typed out here, then the 4 minute mark hit and it basically became a checklist. "Proper work began in 2012? Check.", "2016 maiden voyage plans? Double check." I haven't been obsessed with the Titanic and all it's goings-on since I was like, 12. I'm 20 now, and (probably due to that submarine) all of a sudden that little switch has been flicked back on. No matter the video, no matter how lengthy or in depth it is, I haven't been able to stop myself from clicking on it, and lo and behold, one of my favourite documentation channels already has a video on it.

  • @qtscorpkid
    @qtscorpkid Před rokem +10

    I semi like the I deal of having a 1to1 replica of an Olympic class ship built in Maritime museum/park like they had with the queen Mary, just expanded. A walk through maritime history living museums and use the Cruse lines as floating hotels.

  • @hallamhal
    @hallamhal Před rokem +27

    Isn't it ironic, Olympic was the only ship not to sink, and the only ship that doesn't exist as a ship anymore

    • @MicklowFilms
      @MicklowFilms Před rokem +6

      You would think of all the ships that company sank, they keep the one lucky ship in business for historical purposes and for future generations…

    • @luv2singndance
      @luv2singndance Před 10 měsíci

      @@MicklowFilms there is one white star line ship left I forgot it’s name but it’s a museum ship somewhere.

    • @lozzielozer
      @lozzielozer Před 10 měsíci

      @@luv2singndance the queen mary?

    • @smudisocks
      @smudisocks Před 7 měsíci

      @@luv2singndancethe nomadic

  • @roastedtoast9337
    @roastedtoast9337 Před rokem +40

    When visiting Halifax in 2010, we went to the titanic museum and i have to say it was one of the most interesting things ive ever seen in my life. I may have only been 10 years old, but ill never forget being able to see an actual piece of the hull itself and some of the possessions of the people on board. Would highly recommend visiting if youre ever in the area !

  • @TheNova64000
    @TheNova64000 Před rokem +16

    Obviously there was alot of renewed interest in the Titanic after the movie came out in the late 1998. Even in the early 2000"s their where rumors of a second Titanic ship that was virtually a replica of the original.

  • @elishavarivka8923
    @elishavarivka8923 Před 11 měsíci +5

    I would sail on it--wish they built ships like this again.

  • @simplelifelost
    @simplelifelost Před rokem +62

    I completely agree with the complicated sentiments in this video. I would love to cross the Atlantic and sail into New York on RMS Titanic 2, but it’s also better to leave the great ship as a lesson of history. RIP RMS Titanic.

  • @tombuck
    @tombuck Před rokem +6

    “Living National Treasure” is definitely going on my resume.

  • @ZaynShah871
    @ZaynShah871 Před 11 měsíci +4

    I think it should be rebuilt just as a museum rather than a theme park thing or tourist attraction or anything but as remembrance.

  • @TheJedimaster6788
    @TheJedimaster6788 Před rokem +22

    they should seriously start making ocean liners again, not just cruise ships. they should make them very very classy and relaxing, for a different experience

    • @ashleighelizabeth5916
      @ashleighelizabeth5916 Před rokem +4

      There is no money in it. That's why they are all gone. And you'd have to find classy passengers. Most of them are all gone too.

    • @TheJedimaster6788
      @TheJedimaster6788 Před rokem +12

      @@ashleighelizabeth5916 because our world has turned to unclassy trash. that's why

    • @ashleighelizabeth5916
      @ashleighelizabeth5916 Před rokem +4

      @@TheJedimaster6788 no argument from me on that.

    • @silvergust
      @silvergust Před rokem

      @@TheJedimaster6788 "Unclassy trash" 🤓

    • @TheJedimaster6788
      @TheJedimaster6788 Před rokem

      @CasketBURN and most of those private jets are pure trash. tiny little sardine cans lol.

  • @Hypersonic156
    @Hypersonic156 Před rokem +267

    I remember closely following this project when it was announced back in 2013 during my final year in high school. I WANTED this to happen so badly and I wanted to work as steward on the vessel. But seeing the delays did puzzle me and seeing Clive being the absolute lunatic that he is kinda worried me, but I STILL held on to hope that this would happen. I even got a Titanic II pin from some ausse seller on eBay and I treasured the hell out of it. To the point I would take a souvenir pin of a plane out of it’s little box and put the Titanic II pin in the box to preserve it. Nowadays I just roll my eyes and say to people ask me and I just say “no it’s not”. I remember at one point as well Clive Palmer actually criticised the Chinese government saying “the Chinese just shoot their own people” or something among those lines, granted he’s not exactly wrong. But I knew this would be REALLY bad news for the Titanic II

    • @qwertykeyboard5901
      @qwertykeyboard5901 Před rokem +6

      No, clive is even wrong about the shooty bit.
      Unless _maybe_ capital punishments? Then again, murderers getting executed via firing squad doesn't count does it?

    • @Hypersonic156
      @Hypersonic156 Před rokem +5

      @@qwertykeyboard5901 you’re probably right about the capital punishments. Though if you look hard enough there’s an article where Clive accused some guy who was his political opponent of having some Chinese spy as his wife. The video interview about the whole thing shows Clive losing his shit and even the interviewer said “Clive, I think you’ve lost the plot”

    • @xr6lad
      @xr6lad Před rokem

      Come on; anyone with half a brain knew 5+ years ago this was never going to happen. Specially Australians. That this was taken as credible at any point shows how dim some people are.

    • @xr6lad
      @xr6lad Před rokem

      @@Hypersonic156 that’s more believable than many of his other claims. You obviously know little about the worlds largest dictatorship…. Given they have agents amongst their international students here (admitted to by other students) who report back on misdemeanours and keep them in line why is the other a stretch. The worlds oldest thing: embed agents within political circles and rise.

    • @paulmason4616
      @paulmason4616 Před rokem +1

      Not a direct reply This is a maritime version of pie in the sky. Titanic was doomed to sink without trace, Titanic 2 was sunk before it was built.
      It is considered UNLUCKY to name a ship after a vessel which did not sink in battle.
      in order to possibly break the taboo why not name her TITANIQUE or TITANISCH?

  • @MyMusicSaves
    @MyMusicSaves Před rokem +53

    For anyone that wants to get the tiniest glimpse on the original ''feel'' of the White Star Line ships, have a look at Daniel ''Danny'' Adamson tugboat.
    Supposedly when the Olympic was refitted in the early 1930's some of the original leftover panelling went to this little ship and into it's ''grand staircase look''. After a massive conservation effort this little tugboat is now sailing round the UK and honestly a lovely little glimpse into how amazing the decor and design was part of the Olympic-class ships.

    • @CameronM1138
      @CameronM1138 Před rokem +7

      Also the SS Nomadic in Belfast. It's a much smaller ship built alongside the RMS Olympic to ferry passengers to and from the ship at Cherbourg, where the water was too shallow for the ship to come all the way into port. It had the same styles of furnishings and it's been fully restored to its original condition.

    • @MyMusicSaves
      @MyMusicSaves Před rokem +3

      @@CameronM1138 Thanks for this comment! Put it on my to-do list when I next visit Belfast.

    • @DanRelayer_Ukraine
      @DanRelayer_Ukraine Před rokem +4

      @@CameronM1138 yeah, it's the only surviving Thomas Andrews ship to date.

  • @gratefuldad4083
    @gratefuldad4083 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The fact that this guy makes 5 second sponsors is such a relieve.

  • @classic_movie_trailers

    Thanks for informative video. Had not heard of most of these projects.

  • @mafiousbj
    @mafiousbj Před rokem +35

    I sent this video to a friend and he asked me "What did the Titanic do to get cancelled" as if in social media cancelling....had a laugh but then realized the ship actually killed hundreds when it sank so it may have motives to be "cancelled"
    Anyway excellent research and quality as usual Jake!!

    • @farwolff
      @farwolff Před rokem +2

      What twitter does to a mf

    • @jaydee5638
      @jaydee5638 Před rokem +8

      What’d it do to get cancelled?
      Well..it hit an iceberg of course

  • @LucyKosaki
    @LucyKosaki Před rokem +41

    I would love to visit a finished replica one day. Not to romantizise the tragedy, but to be able to experiece part of what it was like to be on board a 100+ year old luxury liner at that time. The closest thing we currently have is the Queen Mary museum, which is kinda closed most of the time and has increasing repair and funding issues since almost 20 years now.

    • @1111guitardude1111
      @1111guitardude1111 Před rokem +3

      I can confirm this is true, every time I tried visiting the Queen Mary it was always closed to the public 😒

    • @Glitch_sa_Mhaitris
      @Glitch_sa_Mhaitris Před rokem

      Let's rebuild the World Trade Center Twin Towers too and raise the USS Arizona whilst we're at it 🙄

    • @Nbdestryer
      @Nbdestryer Před rokem

      @@1111guitardude1111 The Queen Mary is reopened to the public as of May 2023.

  • @a.walters123
    @a.walters123 Před rokem +5

    Nooooo. I had no idea this was cancelled until now just seeing this video. I was eagerly awaiting it’s completion so I could buy tickets. I am pretty sure if/when someone does rebuild a replica, it will be surprisingly successful.

  • @8ballout
    @8ballout Před rokem +7

    Kind of weird how no one can build a decent Titanic replica these modern days, while over 100 years ago Harland and Wolff pumped out three of these beauties in a shorter timeframe. I like Palmers idea and the model looks really good, nice combination of history and modern technic.
    In memory of all the lost souls... RIP.

    • @supers0nic77
      @supers0nic77 Před rokem

      Were they made of the same type of metal and did they still sail through icy Atlantic ?

    • @frags4679
      @frags4679 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Yeah the thing is, there's literally no profit incentive to plan, build, sail and maintain a ship that operated 100+ years ago when today you could catch a plane or take a cruise ship around. While we defiantly can build as many life size Titanic replicas as we want today, the unfortunate truth is that nobody wants to spend 4 days on a ship if it doesn't come loaded with all the amenities and entertainment facilities that are found on all cruise ships today.

    • @ayeshamess
      @ayeshamess Před 10 měsíci +1

      The closest we ever got to a modern titanic 2/ replica was the set used in the movie

  • @davinp
    @davinp Před rokem +18

    White Star Line was having financial difficulties at the time and tried to see RMS Olympic. Unfortunately, they couldn't afford to turn it into a museum, so the decision was made to scrap her in 1937

    • @toddkurzbard
      @toddkurzbard Před rokem +3

      There was actually some interest by the Italian government to purchase her as a troopship, but the deal fell through
      For which I am glad. The idea of her becoming an axis (and likely later Nazi) troopship is repugnant and foul. Better she was scrapped.

    • @sockjim9016
      @sockjim9016 Před rokem

      @@toddkurzbard Agreed! Given that WW2 was about to start, she could've easily ended up serving the Axis (unless, of course, she got the Aquitania treatment and was kept around long enough to join the British troopship fleet). Also Olympic's scrapping provided employment and money to a town that was particularly hard-hit by the Depression, which seems like a fitting end for a ship called Old Reliable imo

  • @imsomewhatcertain1024
    @imsomewhatcertain1024 Před rokem +44

    There is a ship related to the Titanic which is now a museum ship in Belfast called the SS Nomadic; which was one of the tender ships specifically built for the Olympic Class ships.

    • @LuisAngelSantos
      @LuisAngelSantos Před rokem +1

      It’s actually the Nomadic not the Noradic

    • @crazyguy_1233
      @crazyguy_1233 Před rokem +1

      And Nomadic only ever serviced one Olympic class ship. The Olympic class was very tragic only having one of the liners have a successful career.

    • @annieleonheart7593
      @annieleonheart7593 Před rokem

      I rather visit the Queen Mary. It’s looks more similar

    • @JESUSCHRIST-ONLYWAYTOHEAVEN
      @JESUSCHRIST-ONLYWAYTOHEAVEN Před rokem

      JESUS CHRIST ALONE DIED FOR YOUR SINS & WAS RESURRECTED FROM THE GRAVE! HE IS ALIVE & COMING BACK VERY VERY SOON WITH JUDGEMENT (THESE ARE END TIMES)! PREPARE YOURSELVES, TURN FROM SIN & RUN TO JESUS!
      HE KNOWS YOUR PAIN & TROUBLES, HE WANTS TO HEAL & RESTORE YOU! TALK TO HIM LIKE A BEST FRIEND! ASK HIM TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU & HELP YOU TO BELIEVE IF YOU DOUBT! DON'T WAIT TO CRY OUT! NO ONE IS PROMISED TOMORROW! HE LONGS FOR YOU TO INVITE HIM IN, HE LOVES YOU MORE THAN ANY PERSON EVER COULD, HE CREATED YOU!
      Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."-John 14:6
      "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."-Matthew 10:33
      “For the wages of sin is death (hell), but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”-Romans 6:23

    • @DerpyPossum
      @DerpyPossum Před rokem +1

      @@crazyguy_1233 Nomadic serviced both Olympic and Titanic, at least once,

  • @baconprogames542
    @baconprogames542 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Titanic 2 is like gta 6 💀

  • @coling8176
    @coling8176 Před rokem +1

    I’m from Southampton and recently visited the grave of Frederick Fleet (the lookout on the Titanic) at Hollybrook Cemetery Southampton.

  • @kellyl7688
    @kellyl7688 Před rokem +16

    The Titanic Museum in Gatlinburg, TN recreated some of the interior of the Titanic. It was pretty amazing. I definitely recommend it!

    • @todd718
      @todd718 Před rokem

      I think the same company owns the Titanic Museum in Branson, MO. It’s pretty interesting to visit.

  • @JangoF12b
    @JangoF12b Před rokem +108

    I really think bringing back the Titanic would be a great way to keep the idea of it a round, and keep the history alive and known. I hope it can happen, for a fully functional and nice cruise ship with possible museum decks or cabins for touring and for people on the cruise to learn about the whole ship, the original and new.

    • @baritonebynight
      @baritonebynight Před rokem +1

      Sure.....but nobody with an insane amount of money wishes to do it so it will never happen. Clive Palmer was never to be taken seriously from the beginning.

    • @mistylover7398
      @mistylover7398 Před rokem

      @@baritonebynight too much 💰 maybe?

    • @wolfshanze5980
      @wolfshanze5980 Před rokem +5

      Titanic is an Ocean Liner, not a Cruise Ship... they are apples to oranges and are built differently for very different purposes.

    • @M.A.C.01
      @M.A.C.01 Před rokem

      @@wolfshanze5980 think there’s something wrong with making it a tourist attraction base on a ship sink that killed millions of people on board?

    • @wolfshanze5980
      @wolfshanze5980 Před rokem +5

      @@M.A.C.01 millions of people? I think there's something wrong with a grown adult who either exaggerates things WILDLY out of proportion to prove a point, or has absolutely no comprehension of how numbers work.

  • @umairmalik459
    @umairmalik459 Před rokem +7

    Exaaactly..that's what I always believe.. scrapping the Olympic was the worst decision they ever made..she could have been and should have been restored!

  • @Vyndiktus
    @Vyndiktus Před 2 měsíci +1

    It's a shame these projects never seem to happen. There is a huge demand for oceanliner crossings, the QM2 is booked a year in advance.

  • @devilinside2002
    @devilinside2002 Před rokem +19

    When you said about Clive Palmer “….Even though he is still alive” I said …. Yeah unfortunately!

    • @lock386
      @lock386 Před rokem +3

      You know Australia as a country has made it when Clive Palmer is being mentioned in a BSF vid.

    • @devilinside2002
      @devilinside2002 Před rokem +2

      @@lock386 would’ve been a lot better if Clive “dense Humpty Dumpty” Palmer was mentioned “in memorial”

  • @toddkurzbard
    @toddkurzbard Před rokem +13

    As a (LONG time) TITANIC Historian, I remember when Palmer's TITANIC II 'project' started. My immediate reaction was, "It'll never happen. It's a publicity stunt to cash in on the movie's current popularity". And every time it died and was resurrected, my belief was further reinforced. So this comes as no surprise to me.
    By the way, at 3:06, observe a tragic irony in the "Popular Mechanics" illustration: in the background, you can see the World Trade Center, and if you want a real chill along that same line, in that bad "Raise the TITANIC" movie, near the end, there is a scene where the resurrected TITANIC, entering New York Harbor, passes abeam of the WTC in the background. Considering history, it's positively eerie.

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      @isaiahc8390 Před rokem +1

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  • @CharlyDeamen
    @CharlyDeamen Před rokem +31

    I'll be honest, I would've saved and scrimped for a Southampton - NYC crossing on any rebuilt, modernized Titanic II. Probably brought a few "period appropriate" self-sewn outfits to wear on deck as well. If anything, that would bring me closer to that time and those people, to understanding what happened on that awful night. I don't get people who go on about how it's disrespectful and stuff, seriously. By that logic, the movie shouldn't exist either.

    • @SevCaswell
      @SevCaswell Před rokem +2

      It all comes down to the fine line between telling a story about events and profiting from them. If it wasn't for her dramatic and horrific sinking, Titanic would probably have been overshadowed by her 'older sister' Olympic, there is an excellent 'what if' video on that by Oceanliner Designs here on youtube. So to create a Titanic II over say an Olympic II would be using the tragedy exclusively for financial gain.

    • @aworte3266
      @aworte3266 Před rokem

      Yeah maybe you should get some period appropriate pieces and visit Auschawitz as well. Whats the difference?

    • @frags4679
      @frags4679 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@SevCaswell 100% true, in the same way we have films on WWll and the holocaust we must rember that these are 'artistic' appropriations of the events that occurred for the purpose of storytelling as you put it. So really it's just a question of "Well how far can we go before it becomes gratuitous?"

  • @Cozmixcartoons
    @Cozmixcartoons Před rokem

    You are really good with words my dude

  • @Jjames763
    @Jjames763 Před rokem +7

    “Horrifically gauche” seems to be the unifying theme of these _Titanic 2_ projects.

  • @Trenton-om9qs
    @Trenton-om9qs Před rokem +29

    I am kinda bummed out about this. I kinda figured this would probably never happen. I remember being so hyped about this and writing and article about it in 5th or 6th grade.

  • @EonityLuna
    @EonityLuna Před 11 měsíci +5

    If I were to have the resources to build a Titanic replica, I wouldn’t be doing anything like what have been tried so far. Rather, I would build one that’s an exact replica of the original, right down to the original number of lifeboats etc., but use it strictly only as a static, floating museum ship.
    It will still be technically seaworthy, with functional coal boilers and everything, but - as a mark of respect for those who lost their lives in the original tragedy - it will never accept any sailing passengers or set sail, but instead permanently docked at either the Southampton White Star Line Dock - where it sailed from - or Pier 34 at New York City, its original intended destination.
    There would also be at least one plaque on or near the entrance to the ship honouring the lives of those lost on the original ship, and the whole thing will be aimed more at educating people about Titanic’s history, the tragedy of the sinking, and the repercussions it had afterward on the survivors, the maritime industry, etc, rather than as some entertainment or theme park attraction. Basically, treating it with the respect it deserves, rather than belittling it as some cheap piece of entertainment.

  • @MelStaub
    @MelStaub Před 10 měsíci +8

    I like the idea of a sailing museum of the once beautiful vessel but at the same time I feel it would be a bit of a smack in the face to those who tragically passed especially, if they were to ever sail over her final resting place, I genuinely think we should build an ocean liner similar to the three Olympic class ships but call it something different and have it be a sort of younger modern brother to the sisters that came before

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue Před 5 měsíci

      na good riddance the titanic 2 was an abomination waiting to happen glad its dead

  • @Nafoon21
    @Nafoon21 Před rokem +65

    One of my all time shipwrecks, followed by one of my all time favorite ridiculous reboot attempts. Extremely happy to see you cover this Jake

  • @Mothware
    @Mothware Před rokem +138

    I'm not super big into superstition, but naming your ship after one that had such a major disaster is asking for trouble, especially when doing it solely to profit off the name.

    • @wolfshanze5980
      @wolfshanze5980 Před rokem +26

      Naming it "BoatyMcBoatface" would kind of miss the entire point of building the ship in the 1st place.

    • @mew10521
      @mew10521 Před rokem +5

      I agree

    • @STALINGRAD7
      @STALINGRAD7 Před rokem +9

      I cant think of anything more nice to the souls that left this world on that ship than building it again and completing the journey. There is no need to be so negative.

    • @snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470
      @snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 Před rokem +6

      @@STALINGRAD7 Where are the Twin Towers 2 then?

    • @johnmac8805
      @johnmac8805 Před rokem +5

      @@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 The opportunity has been destroyed by rat politicians.

  • @halosnakem6g28
    @halosnakem6g28 Před 11 měsíci +11

    1,496 has died plus 5 💀

    • @h4wz
      @h4wz Před 11 měsíci

      💀💀💀

  • @DruManjiDrew
    @DruManjiDrew Před 10 měsíci +1

    I enjoy your videos! Thank you for the good content 👏👏👏

  • @bethanymiller1629
    @bethanymiller1629 Před rokem +33

    I would pay for a cruise on a Titanic 2 should it be built. I would love much of the passenger areas to remain as similar as possible to the original ship(except maybe have free Wi-Fi for the guests), but have the modern safety features that modern cruise ships are built with.

    • @oufukubinta
      @oufukubinta Před rokem +2

      Instead of the Marconi room it would be the WiFi room lol

  • @Wombattlr
    @Wombattlr Před rokem +22

    And all of your Australian viewers just collectively groaned. (Not about the video, but at the reminder that Clive Palmer exists)

  • @ElaborateTiger
    @ElaborateTiger Před 11 měsíci +2

    That "titanic returns" poster with the world trade center in the background is so cursed lol

  • @josesalazar2841
    @josesalazar2841 Před rokem +1

    Great video 💪🏼

  • @Kyolover8
    @Kyolover8 Před rokem +82

    I'm honestly glad you did a video on this subject, Jake. I love anything having to do with the titanic and had always heard about the titanic 2 project and wondered what ever happened to the idea. It's good to get some kind of backstory and update on the projects. I honestly think it would be interesting to see it come to fruition even if it only becomes a museum or tribute to the original ship and those that sadly perished that night.

  • @thegoodgamingdragon8523
    @thegoodgamingdragon8523 Před rokem +4

    ima just say
    Titanic: Honor and Glory

  • @LeeLee-pk4ss
    @LeeLee-pk4ss Před rokem +4

    I'm not a superstitious person but as much as I would love to explore a replica of the Titanic, I think that taking a trip on it's maiden voyage with that name is just tempting fate. Now a stationary full size replica museum (like the Ark Encounter) is something that I can get behind.

  • @user-gu8qi4me8x
    @user-gu8qi4me8x Před 2 měsíci +1

    This video is actually genuinely underated and damm

  • @JustJohn505
    @JustJohn505 Před rokem +5

    I still have a piece of newspaper from 2012 when it was announced. Can't belive it was canceled

  • @venomousnate7263
    @venomousnate7263 Před rokem +40

    I’ve heard that there would be a rebuilt Titanic which I kinda found pretty interesting. I’ve always wondered what was the project up to. That’s for the enlightenment as always Jake.

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  • @malthechal
    @malthechal Před rokem +9

    I would love to see the battleship The Bismarck built. Bismarck 2

  • @jakubgraus13
    @jakubgraus13 Před rokem +33

    Such a shame that Olympic got scrapped. However, some of her interior was saved and is now in White Swan hotel in Alnwick, England (dining room and railing from grand staircase). The other way of experiencing Olympic class liner would be to see a wreck of Britannic, but you need special permissions from Greek goverment and be a specialized technical diver.

    • @crazyguy_1233
      @crazyguy_1233 Před rokem +5

      Almost all of her interiors were saved and still exist. Most went to a paint factory that bought up a lot of the interior. I own a segment that originally came from the 1st class smoking room. Olympic deserved to survive the 1930s she was still in very good shape for a ship over 20 years old they even said her engines were running the best they had ever run in her entire career.

    • @jakubgraus13
      @jakubgraus13 Před rokem +1

      @@crazyguy_1233 that’s very cool man

    • @sema6008
      @sema6008 Před rokem

      Confirmed as some of her furniture, porcelain, little lights, a lounge window, wall panel, bath wash cabinet are in the Titanic Exhibit NYC. I was amazed.

  • @gregtomamichel973
    @gregtomamichel973 Před rokem +181

    As an Australian, I think most of us groan at the mention of a Clive Palmer project. Great video as always.

    • @simonm1447
      @simonm1447 Před rokem +2

      In this case he's the Australian equivalent of Trevor Milton ;-)

    • @Theironminer-ky2pg
      @Theironminer-ky2pg Před rokem

      everyone has seen those stupid "FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FOREVER!!!!"

    • @LittleMissLion
      @LittleMissLion Před rokem +10

      Accurate. Automatic eye roll at the mention of his name.

    • @mochynmawr9579
      @mochynmawr9579 Před rokem +3

      wdym he's a living treasure

    • @jgdmlw
      @jgdmlw Před rokem

      The American equivalent of Trump?

  • @RyuNoZero
    @RyuNoZero Před rokem

    3:13 I think this is the most Iconic Picture I've seen this month!

  • @andyconnrock
    @andyconnrock Před 3 měsíci +2

    If Titanic 2 was made, it would have been rather ironic (and funny in a dark way) that it would sink on its SECOND voyage...

  • @burendasan
    @burendasan Před rokem +76

    I know that there still are enthusiasts of the story of the Titanic out there, but so much time has passed since the movie came out and even since the 100th anniversary of the disaster that I think the massive hype around it has died down. So even if the Titanic II came to fruition, it probably wouldn’t be profitable. Not to mention that it would be disrespectful, not to mention tempting fate, to recreate the Titanic and sail it with paying customers.

    • @JJMHigner
      @JJMHigner Před rokem

      Exactly.

    • @AlydiaRackham
      @AlydiaRackham Před rokem +3

      I don't think so. The DiCaprio film was hardly the first movie about the Titanic, and there have been hundreds of books written about it. People are still very, very interested in Titanic, and will continue to be. There's just something about it. And I don't think it's ever disrespectful to remember, to learn, to put yourself in the shoes of people in the past. If it WAS disrespectful, then all museums about any war (or the holocaust) would be disrespectful.

    • @shaynewheeler9249
      @shaynewheeler9249 Před rokem

      Timmy

  • @idrawpeopleandanimals7252

    Again, Jake, another excellent and informative documentary on one of my favorite subjects. Your work just keeps getting better and better. Amazing job! ❤

  • @97Senator
    @97Senator Před 10 měsíci +4

    What a time to recommend this video... 😳

  • @ericalba5756
    @ericalba5756 Před 2 měsíci +2

    When it comes to Titanic, people aren't gushing how they want so badly to ride in a copy of it. What people would dig on is a "Titanic Sinking Immersive Experience" of what it was like to be a 2nd or 3rd class passenger as it hit the iceberg and went down. Build that instead.

  • @weirdotzero7065
    @weirdotzero7065 Před rokem +14

    I think probably the best way to handle a concept like this while being respectful is to make a Titanic Museum.
    A few of those already exists, but never to full scale.
    But I don't know how successful a 1 to 1 replica would be, given most people would probably want to go on the deck, bow, living quarters, dinning rooms and the grand stair case... and that's about it. It would be too expensive to be supported by casual observers.
    Historians and fanatics(such as myself) would love to see something to scale, but at the end of the day, it would end up being a huge waste of money for any finacer.

  • @Mike-rk8px
    @Mike-rk8px Před rokem +28

    Who would ever want to go on a cruise or ocean crossing on a “Titanic 2”? Could you imagine the prospect of it retracing the original Southampton to NYC route, and which cruise line would have the bad enough taste to even suggest it?
    The only way I’d ever step foot on it would be if it was just a replica that was permanently docked, like the Queen Mary in Long Beach. Some of my ancestors died on the Lusitania, so I prefer not to tempt fate.

  • @tyler_bt3326
    @tyler_bt3326 Před rokem +41

    As some have rightly pointed out; titanic was a tragedy. Real people, men, women and children died, it’s not something to be made into a tourist attraction .
    Now a replica Olympic class I could get behind, but give her a new name and make her a tribute to the whole class not just a cheap cash in on a century old tragedy.

    • @alterapp8880
      @alterapp8880 Před 11 měsíci +4

      No one's downplaying the severity of the loss and death that occured that day, but just because you were mortally involved in the incidental destruction of a property doesn't mean that it's mere likeness belongs with you in the grave. Example would be like as if I died driving a 2003 Jeep Cherokee, and someone like you would want people to not continue to drive the model of the car I drove out of respect, assuming that it's what Id even want as a dead person too or some shit; not asking others to replicate the vehicle or incident whatsoever. No that's stupid, of course that Jeep example is less specific than the literal Titanic; a ship that was one of a kind, but that doesn't denote my point. Honestly I think tragedy should be blanketed with a layer of acceptance and nihilistic happiness, and all that happens to me is a different form of expressing understanding, which is what I'm assuming you'd want people to do. As knowing what occured obviously paves more room for exhibiting empathy. But truthfully I think there's no benefit to exemplify the impact of horrific shit longer than you need to, the message is out there, and the sadness is there, and just because people don't choose display their realization of that outwardly with consistence doesn't mean it doesn't make those people not understand or care. And for those who are willing to trek under the covers and dive further into these kind of stories, they can, but just because they're spending more time acknowledging the depressing history, doesn't give them some right to nasal gazingly look down upon those others with resentment who chose instead to revel in the less negative side of things.
      You can get as graphically descriptive as you'd want about whatever event you're discussing, the person listening would reasonably be affected, or touched. But don't always assume that because it's gotten them to blankly stare out of the recognition of terror, or utter gods name out of the impact in reaction, that it means they know it's bad anymore than they had before.
      Also attractions are good way of educating people on the event through entertainment, and you're looking for empathy through understanding by probably wanting people to dig a little deeper, and well that's where you're going to get it. Hell that's where most of our greatest, serious lessons can come from, is entertainment. It's how they leave impressions on us is because the good is usually tempered with the heavy, sad/bad deep shit. Anyways Titanic II would've been cool, and the sub folks maybe should've invested some of their money into that instead of purchasing a glorified casket. Very tragic.

  • @TheGreekPianist
    @TheGreekPianist Před rokem +6

    I hope this project is eventually completed in the near future! ❤️

    • @joefera8947
      @joefera8947 Před rokem

      It was never even started.
      This will not set sail. It will be a permanent attraction at a theme park .
      Titanic 2 is a hoax. Clive Palmer from Blue Star Line is a liar and a con man. He has been promising another Titanic for years and has never even started building anything. He releases bogus press releases about it every few years to get attention for himself. He already screwed over an entire town in a nickel mine scam and is now facing a 5 to 10 year prison term in a separate fraud case.
      Clive even once claimed that he was going to build a real Jurrassic Park, with real cloned dinosaurs.
      The one being built in China is a completely different project and will be a stationary vessel and a permanent part of a theme park there.

  • @payton999
    @payton999 Před rokem +37

    I wish someone would rebuild this ship. To see it’s true beauty would be a once in a lifetime opportunity. There are thousands of people that would love to see the interior and maybe even cruise the ocean on such a ship. I don’t care if there are cruise ships much bigger now, I want to see a replica in person.

    • @gloriaortiz1227
      @gloriaortiz1227 Před 11 měsíci

      Believe me, the ones now are much more beautiful

    • @payton999
      @payton999 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@gloriaortiz1227 I go on cruises quite frequently but none of those modern day ships could ever compare to a Victorian White Star Line.

    • @nickwebb9937
      @nickwebb9937 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@gloriaortiz1227that’s false

  • @djdeadbeat4380
    @djdeadbeat4380 Před rokem +12

    Titanic 2 - Electric Sinkaloo

  • @darthazgorath9570
    @darthazgorath9570 Před rokem

    I was beyond exited for this, so this is kinda heart breaking.

  • @jessaphillips2846
    @jessaphillips2846 Před 10 měsíci +2

    They really should build a replica of the Titanic but it should be permanently moored or in dry dock at the Titanic museum in Belfast.

    • @thelukeboi3118
      @thelukeboi3118 Před 10 měsíci

      Yeah, it would be like a hotel! That’s genius. The hotel employees are characters that come from 3rd to 1st class. Even maids and crew members would be there.

  • @FloofyPurple
    @FloofyPurple Před rokem +20

    As someone who loves all things Titanic, it was great to see you cover this. Your work is always very informative and appreciated.