The Gifted Program Is Causing Problems - Abbott Elementary
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- Janine (Quinta Brunson) approaches her fellow teachers to help figure out a way to keep the newly formed Gifted Program running without making the other students feel left out. Stream on Hulu.
“They took all the talking kids so now I have to talk …” 😂
😂😂😂
Way too true as a teacher
A nightmare as a teacher
This is on point!!!
😂😂😂
"The real cancer is ignorance"
No "the real cancer is cancer" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jacob kills me😂😂😂😂😂
God loves you so! John 3:16✝️
This is the funniest show on right now. The principal is hilarious.
I love the principal!
She's so ridiculous. She's probably the best character
fur real lol
I love Janelle James! I’m so glad she’s finally on a screen, she has only done stand up prior to this show. She auditioned bc she loved the character of Ava, hoping this is a good transition from stage to screen for her
@@jewelsjkm TN; nnn,
That principal is horrible and funny at the same time. This is a really good show.
I love her. She cracks me up so hard 🤣🤣🤣
I freaking love herrrrr
The quick pose at the beginning 😂
funniest woman on tv
She’s the worst. Her singing I’m going down was a hoot.
I died at her sounding like an old locomotive! I laughed for 15mins when I first saw it. This show is hilarious especially the principal.
the principal is definitely the main character!
Lol same here
The way Ava smiled at the camera before she walked off
@@freddiebrock6740 Ava always on her A game…that part was hilarious..how she walks off all diva like
“Honey, you’ve got to walk at a normal pace,” thanks Ms.Barb for the always excellent elder guidance 😂
"Regifted kids" took me out 🤣🤣😭 I LOVE THIS SHOW!
😂😂😂
RE-Gifted like re- tarded mixed with gifted is why its funny.
plus getting a regift isnt as special as getting a real gift. So regifted kids arent as good as gifted. So many layers to the joke. hahah
Ditto! Every time I watch this clip too. 🤣😂
I love that Quinta's show is so good.
Me too
Sooo Great!!
That everybody hates Chris guy really grew up nice
I 100% agree.
Mmmhmm
Oh soo it wasn't just me then?
😂😂😂 as a kid watching Everybody hates Chris I had a crush on him now we both grown and I still do! 😫😋
Yaaaaaaaas!🥰💕🖤💕🖤💕🖤💕🖤💕🖤💕🖤
At the 0:06 mark, why does Ava look dead into the camera & walk off like she was a Victoria Secret model? 🤣🤣🤣
It's a mokumentary like the office, park & recreation
I love her!
😂😂😂😂😂😂 bc she stay doing THE MOST. I love it. the oldest teacher in america still my favorite right now
She was like "heyyyy..camera crew"
That's Jill Scott!
The regular kids. The ungifted kids 😂😂😂. The regifted kids 😂. Goodness. This show is ridiculous and I love it.
Gregory’s face 😂
Whatever is said about the public education experience in this country nowadays,one thing is crystal clear:
This show is the product of a creative GENIUS who reminds us that the EXPERIENCE has given us many more amazing talents like Quinta!!! They just need the chance to be heard. WE GON BE ALRIGHT! Kendrick Lamar did receive the Pulitzer Prize for Music. Amanda Gorman is the youngest poet in history to perform at the Inauguration of the President. We Gon Be Alright!!!!
Against the odds 🙌
Cutest most positive comment ever
It's all good to appreciate people who have excelled
But! We should never be complacent with 'It's okay'
Constantly. Improve. Our. Education. Systems.
That includes funding and proper allocation
I used to watch Quinta at buzzfeed I'm so happy she's thriving
@@trex0004 exactly. The folks in the examples succeeded against the odds because they were incredibly talented and worked really hard to get there. But for each of them there are so many other kids who were also very talented but didn't make it because they weren't provided with opportunities. If you don't give kids opportunities, the very best of the best will probably still succeed to some extent because they keep trying against the odds and have enough pure talent to make it, but not many others will. And that's not "just life", and "if you aren't willing to work for it then you don't deserve it", as some people would say: it's creating artificial barriers to success that other communities don't have. People who say that kind of thing, who say these kids should just "work harder then", have almost never experienced the same barriers.
"Uhhhhh, uhhhhh! There you go sounding like a old locomotive!" Ava is a whole mess! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
My oldest child was identified as gifted and talented. You actually have to take a special test that is administered in second grade in my state. However, they do absolutely nothing once identified. In elementary school there were not advanced classes, my oldest child was extremely bored.
Yup. You would have to transfer him to a different school.
ye same in my highschool gifted and non gifted kids in the same class doing the same exact work.....but it was in the ghetto so I didn't expect much anyways.
@@xenioralad3159 . It does not matter ghetto or not the educational system is horrible in US. I live in a "good area" and it is still sub par.
@@jenisejackson5408 lol i live in canada so cant say for us but i dont doubt its bad
If interested, you can supplement children's education and social development by doing lessens at home (and neighbourhood activities, etc.), especially if they tend to do their school assigned homework quickly. Sometimes, you have to provide your own solutions when the school system (or government) will not-if you are able, of course.
From my experience, in teaching and as a parent of a child who was identified as gifted and talented, a big problem is that schools identify children as gifted but then do not realise that it is much more than academic capabilities. There are also socio-emotional indicators to be considered but are often missed or misidentified. Then what ends up happening is that teachers are not fully prepared to teach these children and can destroy their self-confidence and self worth due to a lack of adequate training or preparation to teach that kind of child.
It is even worse where there are implicit biases based on race or gender. E.g. A gifted child who is not challenged can become restless. I have seen some cases where more patience is exhibited towards the girls while boys are just labelled as troublemakers instead of seeking to address their needs.
This is so true. Also, I was identified as gifted in the early 90s by doing a strange test that included shapes, puzzles etc but I felt like I didn't fit in with the rest of the kids in the program. Some of them did lack social skills, some of them were strangely too mature for their age, and a lot were stuck up and thought they were smarter than the teacher. Even in 3rd or 4th grade, I could tell that I wanted to be in "gen pop." As you said there are so many more skills that are needed and kids shouldn't be around only the kids who think just like them. On top of that, I didn't really learn anything.
@@RnBFAN06 I am sorry to hear that you had such a frustrating experience. Hopefully, even though you felt that it did not benefit you academically, that the experience helped you to develop as a critical thinker and to be more socially astute. I can see how it exposed you to different, unique personalities that you had to learn to navigate. Maybe that turned out to be a plus in some ways.
Right. I know I hated my time in gifted. My teacher did not like me at all and to me it was obvious I was targeted. I didn't fit in with the other kids either because they said I wasn't as smart as them since I was entered late and I dumbed down concepts. Perfect example: we were given 20 people throughout history and asked to put them into two groups. They started discussing which were good vs evil, influential vs non influential, etc. I ended up working on my own since the groups were shutting me out. I presented my two groups: alive and dead. I didn't see why we were arguing about who went where when that was a definitive breakdown of the two groups. I failed that project because my list failed to "elicit a conversation" which was BS since that was never said that was the intent nor alive/dead or male/female (a choice no other group came up with either) were not valid options. Most projects went like that. The teacher labelled me as "difficult" and "lazy".
@@GAshoneybear That is quite ironic. One would anticipate that a teacher trained to work with gifted children would understand that seeing things in a different way is one of their principal characteristics.
I have only heard your side, but based on my own experiences, I have found that some teachers do not like children who challenge them. The child does not have to be rude, once they express a view that does not fit their way of thinking, they end up labelled as a problem.
A more effective way of handling that situation may have been to give clear instructions, check that the concepts were understood, and to monitor what students were doing so that she could have given constructive feedback to guide you to meet the required objective. Furthermore, from your alive/dead groups, she could have elicited discussions regarding the accomplishments of those persons. What did society lose with the death of the ones who passed, and what are other achievements would you like to see for those who are still alive. All that is needed is a little patience and creativity.
like me . i grew up in elementary terrorizing my classes, but i was a smart kid and always on top of my grades, i’m taking 2nd grade through 5th grade, had a para from 3rd - 5th. Kicked out of 2 school like removed, I still can’t believe till this day i was that bad because now i’m in Grad School at one of the top 3 colleges in New york right now 😂😂
0:08 That camera mug and hair toss is EVERYTHING
I love this cast, especially Ava’s little remarks and expressions!!
The way Ava looked at the camera and flipped her hair LMAO she is amazing
This episode hits hard for me cuz I wasn’t in the gifted program in elementary school but it absolutely didn’t matter in the end
Yeah, I think a lot of people have this idea that “gifted kids” are geniuses held back by external flights and problems, but in reality most of them just grow up to be average. They just happened to pick up things faster than some kids at their age, and then the other kids picked up. It’s like when toddlers learn to walk at different ages.
I thought they called it Honors or Advanced Placement now, not Gifted. I saw her on Kimmel & loved her & the backstory with her fave teacher. Hope the show is a hit for her :) My heart goes out to teachers, especially right now
Honors and Advanced Placement is more high school. In elementary, it’s “gifted.”
Gifted is for primary, elementary, and middle school. Honors are like gifted classes for high school. They are usually the same material taught in a different way or at a faster pace. Advanced placement classes are college level classes of rigor that let you take an exam at the end of the year to get college credit.
I was MGM -Mentally Gifted Minors--from 5th through 11th grade. I always hated the moniker
In my elementary school, gifted was just a class you went to outside of your normal class, similar to computer class, music, or art. We read additional books, did logic puzzles, etc. It was once or twice a week and didn't do anything for me lol
@@RnBFAN06 It didn’t do shit besides make me more socially inept and have an ego that wasn’t really necessary
I think a big issue with the gifted program is that many students who deserve to be in it are not and many students who don't deserve to be in it are. It should be better organized and more accurate as to inclusion in the program.
The real problem is a gifted program being seen as anything that anybody can deserve or not deserve. It should be viewed as something that meets a need. In some places, gifted ad falls under the broader umbrella of special ed. Some kids genuinely learn differently because they're smarter or more astute or have better memories, And they should have a right to the kind of learning experience that they need to succeed, the same way kids with learning disabilities are supposed to have a right to the kind of learning they need, too.
It really varies from school to school. Some select who goes into it based on their previous GPA, some have you test into it, some have open acceptance so if a kid would like to try it, they're allowed. All of these have issues and benefits. It should also just be referred to as the accelerated program, so it doesn't offend anyone.
Doesn’t it also make the already overly competitive structure of the American education system even more needlessly competitive? I’m all for specialized learning and making adjustments for kids who don’t learn the same way as others, but just the idea of gifted or accelerated placement programs always seemed kind of Randyan to me. Like the special elite people are the ones who should be getting all of the resources and everyone else doesn’t matter as much. Also I’m just naturally a bit distrusting of stuff like this because I’m my experience, they’re a bit too easy to have over-involved parents rig and influence. I’ve seen first hand PTA moms and school board members collude with their friends to basically insider trade their kids through high school.
@@tatehildyard5332 It can and it has, but those are not the only cases. Some kids grasp the material faster than others. For many of those kids, leaving them in a regular paced course leads to them growing board and resentful of school. Some kids need and even enjoy a challenge. Plus, there are benefits to it. Looking back I wish I'd taken all the AP classes I could. It would have meant that I spent a few $100 for college credits instead of a few $1000 and meant that I could focus more in college on the subjects I was actually interested in instead of taking a bunch of general credits that I wasn't.
@@shootingcomet082 I agree
My wife and I love this show! It's funny and it has a nice heart.
Ava is just a TONIC!!! This show is just one of the best things ever happened to TV again... i love mockumentary... Abbot bring it back to life.
Oh at a certain point I laughed so loud, every character is worth it. A show surely worth my time.
I seriously need a compilation of everything Principal Ava. STAT! 😂😂
The funniest part of this episode was when she called the gifted program the 'mutant academy' 😅
Omg I am loving this show sooooo much!!! Bravo!!🎉
"the real cancer is cancer" has me losing my mind 😂
This show is hilarious 😂 it reminds me of the office is so many ways, but cultured and relevant to what’s happening in the lives of these teachers and kids in and out of school. Love it
The real cancer is ignorance 😂😂
Hmmm the real cancer is cancer
I have trouble identifying any way the gifted program at my school helped me. On the surface, all it gave me were extra school projects on top of my regular homework and weird looks from the other kids when I got pulled out of class on Thursdays to participate in it. I will say I learned some advanced research skills in the course of assembling the projects, but that was nothing they couldn't or shouldn't have been teaching genpop.
Meanwhile, I'd like to say this is one of the only network shows I regularly watch. I've been following Quinta Brunson since her Buzzfeed days, and I'm impressed by her creation of a program that unflinchingly confronts one of the defining social problems of our era--our underfunded and unequal education system--while still being funny.
Lol the gifted kid was for winners. We need to stop making losers not feel bad
@@sm4791 Only loser I see around here is you, if that's your attitude toward life.
"and weird looks from the other kids when I got pulled out of class on Thursdays to participate in it"
Who cares what they thought? If they would rather tear you down than lift you up then they are people you don't want to associate with anyway. You were being prepared to be competitive in the real world and to value knowledge.
@@alisw81 I get that _now_ as a reasonably self-assured adult. I didn't get that _then_ as a fourth-grader who wanted other kids to like him and suspected being one of the smartest kids in class was the reason they didn't. Big difference.
@@vladimirenlow4388 I understand. I suppose it depends on the child. I wanted people to like me when I was around that age but not at the expense of my own abilities or opportunities for growth. For me it wasn't long before I realized I placed waaaay too much thought into the opinions of underachievers who thought being good in school, in some cases that was defined by simply being able to read, was something to be ridiculed about.
When it said "gifted" I thought it meant "special needs." For our actual gifted class we just separated them to higher and ordinary. For our "special needs" class it was less special needs because the special needs students were mixed into the main curriculum. However when senior level rolled around most of the special needs and people with low IQs were sent to our real "ungifted" class. Which would have been fine except no university would accept students from that class and there was no upward mobility if you improved because you were stuck in that class. I also found that most of the special needs students were smart enough for the main senior classes but because school was such a toxic place for them and didn't support their way of learning they were considered just too dumb for the main senior course.
I LOVE THE PRINCIPAL SHE SOO FUNNY
I literally watched all the episodes yesterday and that principal is driving me crazy I love her so much especially when she told grown up Chris to start speaking more!!!
Love this show and Quinta. So glad she got this new show and it's great
Loving this show even more after seeing her on jimmy kimmeel and seeing the inspiration of the real life mrs abbott
omg the hair flip and smile at 0:08 killllt me
Great - now I'll be walking up the stairs scared somebody's gonna call me an old locomotive 😂
I loved the gifted program at my elementary school! It helped me and so many others get ahead in life and gave us the tools we needed to continue to succeed in school and become successful adults. ❤
Best show on TV right now. Hands down.
So good and we’re only one episode 6!
0:08 Why Abbott Elementary is a runaway hit.
“She is the moment”
That principle be Killin me 🤣🤣🤣
If this is Quinta Brunson Life's Work 🌟💫👑Absolute Excellent👸🏾 Well Done 👏🏾 Everything!!!
We call that "tracking" and it has proven detrimental to all students. Including those in the gifted program.
It often leads to depression, anxiety, feelings of isolation, and causes gifted kids to link their self esteem to academic performance. Which can continue to harm them as adults.
The rest of the student body can sometimes become discouraged because they aren't in gifted. Often felling at though they shouldn't try hard because they "will never be as good as the gifted kids". Which can effect their academic performances long term.
Finally, it can create a bias in teachers. Often siding with gifted kids during classroom disputes. Or giving them special treatment by allowing them to either break rules or giving them more opportunities.
And don't get me started on remedial students and how they are often typecast as lesser than their peers.
All of it is problematic.
Humans compare themselves against others and it effects them mentally. Similar results are noted in professors writing scientific papers comparing themselves to piers from their university and how it negatively effects their performance. With that said if you fully separate the kids into 2 different schools, instead of an in school program it should give most of the benefits with least negatives.
@@kopkaljdsao nope. Anxiety and depression is high in kids in countries that do that. Cheating to get into better schools. Extreme test prep conditions.
People need to be allowed to integrate and segregate at their will based on their own standards not those forced onto them by others, while learning cooperative skills by frequent exposure to people not like them.
@@kissit012 cooperative skills is 1st-4th grade. Learning is in trade schools and universities. Tests that free a child from attending class/school in comparison to tests that can ruin their lives will not effect them mentally nearly as bad.
RIGHT ON THE NOSE!
As someone that is black and was in the gifted program, it sucked 😂. I was there along with two others and they basically just had us learning algebra early. The other two didn't want to do it after a while and told the teacher so they could stop coming, so eventually it was just me. The teacher at the time taught me chess and left me all alone and that's what I basically did for that hour and change, played chess by myself or did some worksheets. The program dissolved soon after, I want to say it lasted a couple of months but not the entire school year. Maybe it's because I attended a low preforming "urban" public school, I don't know. Let's just say I'm not a fan of advanced/gifted programs, especially in schools that aren't really equipped to handle things like that.
I feel like AP and IB classes also kind of make some ppl feel not smart enough and left out. I really tried to get into an AP class since I missed the placement tests for the honors classes but never got good enough grades for it.
At my school, anyone in high school can take honors, AP, or IB. It is encouraged to take some because classes of rigor get you more scholarships and look good to colleges. However, some schools may base entrance on a test or grades because these classes are college level and require certain kinds of students. You have those that are over achievers, those that are good at school, and those that have an easy time grasping information and applying it. If someone who doesn’t have good grades or doesn’t really have a good foundation on a subject takes some of those classes, they probably wouldn’t do well.
@@avalonsignoraalmas6150 My AP class was my favorite class in high school because it was set at a pace I liked and full of interesting material.
For me everything was summed up in something called the magnet program. In there there was a mixture of accelerated and gifted kids. In order to continue to stay in the program (or even get in) you had to keep your gpa to a 3.0 or higher or you’d get kicked out.
That’s literally the point.
I can't believe the first couple episodes I hated Ava. SHE IS GENIUS
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS SHOW!!!!!
The scene of the kid preparing to read in front of the whole school had me and my GF dying of laughter.
Abbott Elementary gives me The Office vibes! I love this show! Tyler James Williams is so awesome!🤣🤣🤣
Honestly I was in the gifted problem and it isn’t a great idea. It’s just the same logic as the rich get richer. If a kid is more advanced in a topic, shouldn’t you nurture those who need more help? The one who has no problem with “accelerating” doesn’t need to extra support in this situation. It also led to a lot of fear of failure and imposter syndrome later on in life
But you also want to challenge those students that are excelling. As a teacher I’ve always found both hard to do at the same time which is those programs were created. I do understand why people would be against them though.
Yo Tyler James voice has gotten so deep. His voice before as an adult was deep but it sounds like his voice went into the hyperbolic time Chamber and now has an ultra Chad voice. Lol
there's a ny times podcast series on how the gifted program was really just invented as a marketing scheme and it completely put into perspective how random the selection for who gets into gifted is today
I'm obsessed with this show!!!!
Me 2!
Gregory’s head turn after “The regular kids…” 😂😂😂 0:51
I hated the gifted program because I was envious that I was never tested in elementary school to be in it. The other kids in it got to leave class and go do other things and had special classes that we didn’t get. It felt really bad personally and I just felt stupid. In high school they had IB but no one ever said anything about that and it just felt like the gifted kids already being chosen all over again. I could take AP classes, but IB was just another “gifted” kids program that simply felt like it was meant to separate us and make us feel lesser than.
Chris’s voice got DEEP
"The real cancer is ignorance" Mmm the real cancer is cancer" Hilarious
Tyler James Williams is too fine!
Damn!
I couldn't agree more!🥰💕🖤💕🖤💕🖤💕🖤💕🖤💕🖤💕🖤
😁, love this show.
The chemistry between everyone is Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0:00 in repeat set up this first joke sooo hilariously.
I'm looking forward to this being renewed.
They put some great clothes and lipstick on "Ava"!
i love Tyler James Williams' smile. ugh.
Me 2!💕🖤💕🖤💕🖤💕🖤💕
I sooo Love this show
0:28 Gregory followed the advice given from Mr Abbot, the guidance counsellor.
I just love this show! Lol!🤣😂🤣❤
I love the way they consistently disrespect the third wall lol
It doesn't matter if the other kids are not in the program, they will adapt and improve
Something that many parents know is that dealing with a gifted child is a problem. Their fixation on learning creates demands for attention and content that most classrooms can't handle. They get bored, act out, cause problems with other children.
I haven’t seen this show yet. This clip is literally my first time seeing any parts of it.
Well we called the non-arts program kids the 'normal' kids at my elementary school 😭
The funniest show I've seen in years!
Love this show!
BRING THIS SHOW TO THE UK😭😭
I moved a lot as a kid, I wanted to be in the gifted program and they'd say I have to prove I can cut it, maybe next year. By the time the year was up my teachers agreed that I should be in the gifted program but hey, time to move again... and so the cycle continued. In the long run, I'm not sure how much it matters though..
I remember being in the gifted program. I don’t remember it being very accelerated though that might have just been at my school though 🤷🏽♀️. I think it was called TAG or something
Great performances and show!
Looks like a show I should be watching
I am now in to this !
0:52 Gregory’s Face bruh😭😭😭😭
Love the Principle and Janitor
Hey I'm a big fan
This show is amazing
My favorite new show…
The principal hasn't said anything wrong so far 😅 but someone would try cancelling her
Im here for Ava
I'm enjoying the eye contact.
0:30 he isn’t wrong.
Technically college dosent make you successful , but it does give you more opportunities.
….cancel it if it makes a single person feel bad because God knows, you can’t have that.
Not “regifted” chile 🤣🤣🤣
Ava might be my favorite charcter
LOVE THIS SHOWWWWWWW
I live TJW so much
So do I! He's the handsomest man ever!💕🖤💕🖤💕🖤💕🖤💕🖤💕
i was in the gifted and talented program all my life, and we all called the other kids "regular" kids...what a terrible program
I wonder if my teacher had such opinions of me (I was IGC)?
The principal is my fav she's so funny 😂😂
Chris grew up to be a sarcastic young man
Why did the principal smirk at the camera like that?!
The PRINCIPAL!!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😭😭>>>>>>>>>>>>>>