We went to New York City with a Bible Disguised as a Quran and read verses from it. What happens when people find out it was actually the Bible all along?
Here is a contradiction with what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 11:5, which indicates that women were “praying and prophesying” in the church. God cannot contradict himself. Paul is not against women speaking altogether...He simply does not want them to evaluate prophecies in the assembly because that would violate the male headship norm. Paul does not want anything to happen during corporate worship that would upset the headship principle that he so carefully exhorted them to obey in 1 Cor. 11:2-16. For that reason, he enjoins women in this context to refrain from the judgment of prophecies. He’s not commanding an absolute silence on the part of women. Indeed, he has already revealed that they are in fact praying and prophesying. He does, however, command them to be silent whenever prophesies are being judged. And the women are to do so out of deference to male headship. The Bible’s teaching may be controversial but it’s not self-contradictory. Paul doesn’t forbid women from praying and prophesying in the assembly. On the contrary, he wishes for them to do it in a way that honors male headship (1 Cor. 11:2-16). Among other things, that means that women may prophesy but that they may not judge prophesies (1 Cor. 14:34-36). This teaching reflects Paul’s very practical concern for women who minister in churches and how they might do so in a way that honors headship. That very same concern should mark every congregation-even ours. Why does nobody here talk about Quran 4 34? Where it states that men are "in charge" of woman..... keep you anti-Christian bullshit elsewhere.
The context of this Bible verse is referring to women who gossiped in Church. Whereas the quran permitted men to scourge their wives into submission. Now THATS extreme and dangerous. I’d say that’s a big difference.
Because the Bible is out of context. This passage was from a disciple. While we can infer a disciple could be divinely inspired, it does not mean they will not have bias from their culture. Anyone who has studied history in ancient times would know how oppressed women are. Jesus didn't actually apply the passage specifically for women, it was for everyone. In fact he didn't even tell them that men are superior to women. This male supremacy was written by his disciples who clearly have their own biases. Jesus even allowed divorces yet his disciples seemed to have contradicted that. The Quran of the other hand actually commands a women to be silent and submissive, to be beaten and raped and be treated like a slave. Quran is extremism. The person who dictated the Quran is also a paedophile and a child groomer. He even brags about this saying Muhammad has been observing Aisha ever since she was a toddler.
Abu Umama narrated: “The Messenger of God said, ‘Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.’ ”
@@AmigoFriendHabibi Actually, what I meant is there are 2B Muslims in the world, it's hardly a flex and it seems to be used to milk likes. But let's for a second say you are right, you don't have to actually read it do you? Because even if you do read the whole Quran and sees the flaws in it, others will tell you it depends on the "interpretation". So there is really no basic answer. But you know what will be the best answer to Quran? Trying to leave Islam. Or just disrespecting Muhammad, In some countries it's enough. If you need specific Surahs to help you get on your way to being Ex-Muslim I'll be glad to be helpful.
@@user-vn5xj6yc9p 1. It doesn't matter wether he read it or not, all he did was point a double standard and extreme principles in a treatment to two similar religious books. 2. It's the Quran not Koran, so it seems neither are you in a place to speak, or to report what your favorite source said.
@@OmarShtaiwi_ Well Quaran is the English name, but many languages, my own included write it as Koran. He probably used his own language. That’s just a linguistic barrier and should not negate his point from that fact alone
Yall complaining that he took it out of context. That's kind of the whole point of it. He's showing the double standard where people will believe something without context from the Quran but won't from the Bible. People are quick to believe out of context things if it's from the Quran simply because they don't understand it and would rather use it as a guise to hate.
Well no, see the guy who said its extreme isn't even really a Christian. any Christian would know that it's not extreme, its not taken out of context, women should be silent in church.
He was assuming that the person wouldn’t be deceitful and take things out of context, so when he thought that was what it said, he thought it was extreme. If the Bible actually said it like that word for word, that would be extreme, but it is a completely different scenario if you actually read it. (1 Timothy Chapter 2 I believe)
To be fair though when I read Fundamentals of General, Organic, and Biological Chemistry (MasteringChemistry) it took me over 5 years because my brain slow and I needed to google the vocabulary and chaos theory and abstract ideas really fuck with my head and cause mania and other negative symptoms of internal mental breakdownz.😂🎉
Your average Muslims are more extreme than christians. Because their viewpoints of the scripture is different. For muslims Quran is straight up gods word and not disputable. For average christians the bible are human words who got inspired by god and are actively disputed. One viewpoint is more radical than the other.
See let me explain this to you , in Bible there is two parts old and new testament and in this video this guy is taking about old one . And Christian don't follow the old testament . Old one is just for the knowledge of how people were treating back then.
Muslim here,we need to understand that it isn't right to compare! This would only cause issues especially because many people believe in different things. So I would say we should just not assume things because just like the Qur'an,the Bible was also made by none other than Allah. We have always been taught that all religions shall be equal even if it isn't demonstrated in the real world,haven't we?
I'm a Non religious person here.. You shouldn't treat anyone with hatred or judge people that you don't know. This is what creates war... treat others how you want to be treated.
saying women should be silent is not the same as calling women mentally deficient saying their menstrual cycle breaks prayer saying it's okay to beat,your wife saying women will be eternally deflowered in jannah marrying a 5 year old deflowering her when shes 9 having to make her "the best of plump" for muhammand and having to have her clean his come stained clothes
@@valmadf They literally don't have to pray when menstruating. They get to relax. When beat, Rasulullah said lightly. It's literally explained already. A simple google search will benefit you. Al-Hasan al-Basri said: “This (the Hadith) means that it should not cause pain.” ‘Ata said: I said to Ibn `Abbas, what is the kind of hitting that is not harsh? He said, Hitting with a siwak and the like. [A siwak is a small stick or twig used for cleaning the teeth - Translator] Wherever you got that eternally deflowered from, it's either weak or entirely fabricated. Ever heard of Hoor al-Ayn? Age of consent was puberty back then. And there is nothing about "the best of plump". And cleaning your husband's clothes is not a good thing? Come on, just because you read two Hadith translations and immediately dismiss 1400 years of Islamic knowledge doesn't mean you found the truth.
@@gokunexusss 😂😂weak hadith yet it's in your books ?? also there's a hadith about aishas mother making her "the best of plump" at the age of 6. tell me what the best of plump can mean for a 6 year old. muhammand was married to aisha before she reached puberty and there's no law against having your child wife do immoral things to you or you doing immoral things to her you can't say "oh well it was normal back then" bc muhammand isn't an example for a certain period of time he's an example for all Muslims throughout time he's the most perfect man in Islam 😂😂 but he fiddles children and does mutah
I seen this verse used by many people saying that the bible is unfair. That is because people isn't reading the context of that verse. If anyone wants to know what does that ver mean just reply to me.
@@bodhiswayze1892 the verses were taken out of context and they were also from the Old Testament which modern day Christians don’t have to follow everything they did in the Old Testament like sacrificing animals, etc
lol it’s the other way around actually, In Europe back in the 1400 hundred’s (most of Europe was Christian) or so men in Europe used to trade their wife or sisters, the hijab was created to protect women and to represent modesty get your facts right.
It is out of context: the English translation of silent is in error and most pastors explain this. It is speaking to self-control and respectfulness among Yehovah God’s people, in contrast to the bawdiness and vulgarity common in pagan temples of the time.
Person 1 is correct. Meanwhile, muslims are told to lie and kill to promote their death cult, abrogate their scriptures and reinterpret anything that contradicts their false beliefs.
@@annemurphy9339 Bible literally tells women to stay silent in places of worship, and they should ask their husband at home should they have doubts. No. It's not taken out of context.
@@malsawmzela609 Your comment proves you have no idea what you’re even speaking about: 1 Timothy 2:11 begins with an assumption about women which was foreign in ancient cultures, ie, encouraging the teaching of women. This idea ran in contrast to most cultural and even religious traditions of the time. In traditional Judaism, women were not allowed to study under the Law, yet Paul’s words here start by following the pattern of Christ who taught women as part of His ministry (John 4:27-30; 11:28-30; 19:25). From the context of the Greek language, Paul’s prior comments, & the culture of the time, it is clear Paul doesn’t mean women are to remain “silent,” meaning completely soundless as suggested in some older translations. Proof is that the same Greek word - hesuchios - is used in several biblical verses where total silence is clearly not implied (1 Timothy 2:2; 1 Thessalonians 4:11; 1 Peter 3:4). Rather, the term simply implies a peacefulness or calmness in demeanor. In ancient times, religious expression could be loud, showy, even hysterical, and this is what Paul wishes to avoid within YHVH God’s church.
@@annemurphy9339 1 Corinthians 14:34-35: “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church” Say what? Lmao. It's not that complicated. You don't have to dissect every verse until it leaves only the part you want.
as a Christian, these double standards really bother me. the people who get offended by this don't read their Bible thoroughly enough smh. edit: don't go in the replies, it's just useless rambling/arguing.
@@IslamicTerd2not at all, a lot of us actually read the Qur’an, im well aware of death but certainly don’t fear it. you will tho for sure when it’s time comes.
Yeah. like I understand its probably a bit deceitful. and thats probably why he walked away. but knowing you’re in an interview you shouldn’t walk away once you’ve agreed to participate, otherwise you’d look defeated. so in these moments its best to explain your thoughts.
Why doesn't the musIi,m tell everyone about how 9: 29 of kuran says to fight chrlstlans and tews until they are subdued, Or why kuran calls chrlstlans and tews worst of creat,ures?? Or why kuran say musIi,m men are allowed to keep (non musIi,m marrled wom,en) as s x sIav, es How is any of this a good thing??
@@brockcharz2104 Lol you calling it the Kuran and not the Quran shows how little you actually know abt what it says there. First off this book was written for ppl in the year 400, when slavery was the best way to keep a prisoner, of war mostly. And if you actually read more, forcing yourself on a slave isn't allowed, cus you should treat them like family. Also, these rules are allowed to change if better solutions are founded.
Interesting, but . . . the difference lies in how strongly believers adhere to their respective holy texts. Christian societies have been largely secularised for centuries; Muslim societies have not, maybe with exception of Turkey.
Matthew 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” So Jesus in the Bible is a liar for abolishing Mosaic laws?
@@Hans-fk7od The Matthew 5:17 verse was again taken out of context. The back story was he has come to fulfill what it says in scripture and die for our sins. When he is taking about the law he is talking about the 10 commandments which he explains later on if you were to keep reading. Don’t put one verse with our looking at the one before and after it.
@@bagelboy310 In the New Testament, Paul speaks of women who were in the church who were teaching people about Jesus, like Priscilla. She and her husband Aquila went around teaching people. I do know that in 1 or 2 other occasions, Paul mentioned a woman who was teaching people the gospel of Jesus Christ. People who want to talk about The Bible and they're not Christian need to research scriptures and find out what they mean before trying to discredit the gospel of Jesus Christ. There are thousands of Bible teachings online. I'm so tired of these cheap shots.
😈😈👽Men was at majour posts then,maybe, women were secondry workers in old jews out of egypt, AM I WRONG, OR WERE THEY ENTERPRISING AS THEIR HUSBANDS, DEOENDS ON CONTEST ....😈😈
Dont assume he is christian😂 secondly quran is a lot worse; Abu Umama narrated: “The Messenger of God said, ‘Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.’ ” Dont forget muhammad married 6 year old, totally pedo😂 Jesus did not marry anyone and did not lust
That section was an example of the Corinthians rules and if you added context you would know that Paul was condemning the Christian’s in Corinth for thinking that way
No Paul was not condemning. He was giving out orders in the name of Jesus. I read it just a week ago in my usual family prayer time and well ,my mom didn't utter a word 😬
They are trying to mock the bible but their own book says the bible is from God 🤣 “He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. Before, as guidance for the people. And He revealed the Qur'an.” 3:3-4 What a bunch of morons🤣
They are trying to mock the bible but their own book says the bible is from God 🤣 “He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. Before, as guidance for the people. And He revealed the Qur'an.” 3:3-4 What a bunch of morons🤣
I've almost read the entire bible this year (currently at Hebrews) and i gotta say it's not all peace and flowers. A lot of what some people take as extreme in the Quran is written in the bible as well.
Yeah but Christians don’t really follow the Bible do they? Nor do Jews! It’s only Muslims who stick to their faith and have full complete conviction of the Quran!!
Corinthians is a quotation type of book where the author quotes the things people used to believe at that time and respond to it for eg this verse i.e 1 Corinthians 14:34 Paul is quoting the thing people in Corinth used to believe at that time and he responds in 1 Corinthians 14:39 So therefore my brothers and sisters desire to speak what God has revealed and don't stop anyone from speaking in other languages .
Also Qur'an 65 4 talks about pre menarcheal women. Nisa. Puberty and menarche are different things. Girls are adults after puberty and before menarche. Exactly what the tafsir are saying. About young women.
This quote is applied to men as well in an earlier verse and it’s about etiquette in church. You should be silent and submit yourself to God during worship. You can cherry-pick verses from a book you haven’t read but you can’t fool the people that actually have.
The Bible cherry picked a lot of things and has a lot of fantastical things that aren't possible whatsoever.... funny how naive people are to believe something written so very long ago. They also spoke a lot differently too but looks like that's not registering to most people. I could go on and on about things written by humans but I'd be here all year going back and forth with people who have different beliefs than me... and we wouldn't get anywhere because different beliefs are different beliefs
@@user-dq3gw5ww8y ok well one of the rules set for the hebrews by Yahweh himself was that if a woman was raped she would be required to marry her rapist. The rapist would have to pay for the wedding, though.
I find this dumb, because almost all religions have extreme parts to them this doesn’t mean we should trick people into thinking one is more extreme than the other.
I go to a school that has people from everywhere with all different types of religions, we all treat each other equally 😉 I agree if only everyone could get along with the real world :(
@@ayhemshaban9745 Correct me if I'm wrong anywhere or have missed out on something since we should all endeavour to understand scripture in all it's fullness and holiness👌
@@maddieb.4282 Hey Maddie I got u super simple this is verse was important on the bases of historically women in the temple were excluded and at the time weren’t allowed to even ReadScripture they would teach the children at home basic stories and the men would expand, the problem was that eventually when after Jesus came and went to heaven after his resurrection women were now in churches and during worship some would go out of their way to ask questions during times where it wasn’t appropriate, God in basic terms is saying women wait until it is time appropriate to ask questions whether it’s after service or home or someone who can explain correctly it’s not too deep there were women at the time of Paul who he even said were co workers of the Gospel , and a level of authority wasn’t made to be oppressive it was made to help people at a correct time,
@@maddieb.4282 Hey Maddie I got u super simple this is verse was important on the bases of historically women in the temple were excluded and at the time weren’t allowed to even ReadScripture they would teach the children at home basic stories and the men would expand, the problem was that eventually when after Jesus came and went to heaven after his resurrection women were now in churches and during worship some would go out of their way to ask questions during times where it wasn’t appropriate, God in basic terms is saying women wait until it is time appropriate to ask questions whether it’s after service or home or someone who can explain correctly it’s not too deep there were women at the time of Paul who he even said were co workers of the Gospel , and a level of authority wasn’t made to be oppressive it was made to help people at a correct time,
What does it matter which part he reads? It’s all in the Bible. The point is that there are double standards. If he told the people it was the Bible before reading it, they would say it’s perfectly fine.
I interpreted the “have a nice day” as “I don’t have the energy to argue about this.” Believe what you want to believe and I’ll do the same. Have a good day.
It's not. Actually. It something Paul said. Let me explain it more. Paul is one of the disciples. And he was the only one (According to me) that didn't put women down or wanted women to be submissive to the world but instead he encouraged women and men both in various ways be it for not getting married or spreading the Gospel. He encouraged Priscilla and loved her work for spreading the Gospel along with her husband. So maybe read all of Paul's as well as Christ's teaching. FYI, Jesus Christ Himself has said this to his disciples that if you look at a women l@stfully then pluck your own eyes.
@@olivia-kn2mc yes. but Jesus also encouraged women not to put men in that situation where they'd need to gouge their eyes out. God said its a sin to make others sin.
Why doesn't the musIi,m tell everyone about how 9: 29 of kuran says to fight chrlstlans and tews until they are subdued, Or why kuran calls chrlstlans and tews worst of creat,ures?? Or why kuran say musIi,m men are allowed to keep (non musIi,m marrled wom,en) as s x sIav, es How is any of this a good thing??
@@sbgaming002 have u read that part of the Bible? Cause my parents are Christian and they're not doing anything harsh to each other or whatever, they love each other, so clearly u didn't read it
There is nothing like that in the Quran. There is a verse that tells women to speak but just not to make their voices overly feminine when talking to men: O wives of the Prophet! You are not like any other women: if you are mindful ˹of Allah˺, then do not be overly effeminate in speech ˹with men˺ or those with sickness in their hearts may be tempted, but speak in a moderate tone. Al-Aḥzāb, Ayah 32 This verse speaks directly and more importantly to the wives of the Prophet (peace be upon them) but when the Quran sets an example of the Prophet or any other prophet of God then it means it is applicable to us just not as strict. For example we are told to follow Abraham peace be upon him as it is in the Quran: You have an excellent example in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people, “We totally dissociate ourselves from you and ˹shun˺ whatever ˹idols˺ you worship besides Allah. We reject you. The enmity and hatred that has arisen between us and you will last until you believe in Allah alone.” Al-Mumtaḥanah, Ayah 4
The Quran is the literal word of God as dictated to Muhammad. The Bible is written centuries after the fact and is the work of people who were inspired by God, translated with certain words losing their original intent and/or meaning, and are actively disputed to this day.
When you realize that was speaking to a very specific group of people who were young widows who are causing gossip… and not to be applied to all women. It was a letter to a very specific church not a commitment from God….
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 so when it says the same of men when taken in context, then I guess that’s somehow also mysandristic. Then again, when you are addressing the issues of a specific area and talk about men and women…
Most Christians don’t know how to answer hard questions. The same author also preached with several women in the church and tells the church to have women cover their heads to show they have the proper authority for anyone who doubted so that they can prophecy in the church. Quoting one verse sure can do a number on the entire thing. Paul isn’t talking about teaching, he’s talking about how in Ephesus, the women (not all of them as some of them were business savvy or had some informal education). Would all sit together, and because they weren’t used to sitting and listening, they would begin to talk and it would get louder and louder until the pastor would bang a big stick telling them to be quiet. Paul is telling the women not to talk in the church. Not that one cannot participate, but shut your mouth during the service. In fact, in rural part of Turkey near Izmir is still this way. Had the chance to hear a minister from there speak, and his church trains people to disciple the women no more than three of them at a time, and can only speak five to ten minutes before they’re off with something else. This isn’t because they’re unintelligent, but sitting and listening for extended periods of time is a skill developed from childhood, and when a person is deprived of it, their brains do not learn how to retain focus for long. This goes for men and women. Gotta read the rest of Paul’s writings. Either this verse is being misunderstood by us, or Paul was wishy washy and controdicted himself over and over again from one chapter to the next. Usually, feminists stick to the verses of Paul setting up women to lead, and misogynists like to quote these verses in isolation. Both are incorrect, but totally reconcilable.
@@arkham5940 Sure. 🤣 Exc. relevarion is written perfectly to understand, how lamb looks or how many times honks you will hear before end, or who is babylonian whore. It would be exactly how it is written. I am glad that some random furie profile knows what i read.
Paul writes to all churches telling the women to not talk *sigao* meaning "voluntarily talk during clamor". This was the first time women were allowed to go to church services and Paul didn't want them getting in trouble. No one was supposed to talk except the three leaders and only one at a time (They also could be women). He previously asked them to speak prophecy in the Church, this again this reestablishes his support for women in such a sexist time. Allah tells mankind that it's okay to hit a disobedient wife and have sex with your slaves even if they have another husband. Those darn Christians sound *really* hypocritical to me.
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Even tho context is for sure needed to know what was being said in that passage, this is still a good example of people forming opinions of things after literally 0 research or thought of their own, so many people these days are so willing to just go with whatever everyone else is going with…
It’s not a good example at all. It’s simply baiting. The guy thinks he’s giving his opinion on something and then finds out it’s a gotcha bait that will be used against him online. Anyone who doesn’t have this response or gets upset has low iq. The typical response (most are low iq) is to act surprised and then accept defeat which is literally the same logic you’re using about forming opinions without research.
@@flamingtoaster6989 girl I ain’t reading anything since we Muslims don’t understand anything and your bible is the correct book then explain to us that verse because it clearly says that women are less than man and don’t have rights to literally just speak
@@zannchristo Pretty sure the quote he's saying out of context is from Titus. But the whole chapter is about how to conduct oneself in church. The men get instructions too that go past being in church and at home. This guy only read a part so it sound sexist. But it kind of explains why synagogues are separate by sexes.
That's out of context. There was a certain moment during the churches history where woman were particularly talkative during service. So, in response this note was written
1 Corinthians 14:34 - the women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but are to submit themselves, as the law also says. 1 Corinthians 14:35 - If they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home, since it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. 14:34 is the one said in the video, and this is from the standard Christian bible. I won't tell you what to think or try to change your belief, but here's your context.
when they think its from the quran they dont ask if its out of the context, they say thats extreme but when they show that its from the bible they will say its out of context, smh hypocrites.
I love how you are going to ignore the fact that in the right context he was protesting against the silencing of women but you do you just know you are being ignorant
Stop doing this. We Muslim bielive in all the prophets and all their books and teachings which was given to them by God. Stop making separations. We're all followers of the same God and his prophets.
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Which verse was the one in the video?
@@ercopi9534 it was one in 1st Corinthians and it was taken out of context as Paul was giving an example of the Corinthians thought process
@@chalicotheremapping8921 Ye I know, I was just interested of the actual context.
Here is a contradiction with what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 11:5, which indicates that women were “praying and prophesying” in the church. God cannot contradict himself.
Paul is not against women speaking altogether...He simply does not want them to evaluate prophecies in the assembly because that would violate the male headship norm.
Paul does not want anything to happen during corporate worship that would upset the headship principle that he so carefully exhorted them to obey in 1 Cor. 11:2-16. For that reason, he enjoins women in this context to refrain from the judgment of prophecies. He’s not commanding an absolute silence on the part of women. Indeed, he has already revealed that they are in fact praying and prophesying. He does, however, command them to be silent whenever prophesies are being judged. And the women are to do so out of deference to male headship.
The Bible’s teaching may be controversial but it’s not self-contradictory. Paul doesn’t forbid women from praying and prophesying in the assembly. On the contrary, he wishes for them to do it in a way that honors male headship (1 Cor. 11:2-16). Among other things, that means that women may prophesy but that they may not judge prophesies (1 Cor. 14:34-36). This teaching reflects Paul’s very practical concern for women who minister in churches and how they might do so in a way that honors headship. That very same concern should mark every congregation-even ours. Why does nobody here talk about Quran 4 34? Where it states that men are "in charge" of woman.....
keep you anti-Christian bullshit elsewhere.
When sexism is in the Bible it's "taken out of context" but when it's in the Quran it's "totally extreme and dangerous". How convenient.
The context of this Bible verse is referring to women who gossiped in Church. Whereas the quran permitted men to scourge their wives into submission. Now THATS extreme and dangerous. I’d say that’s a big difference.
so you just got told what now brown cow?
@@lyssalouise2705 it's not. 1 Tim 2:12 and onwards. but I don't consider that extreme or sexist at all. i agree with it.
@@lyssalouise2705 prove it with actual Quran verses
Because the Bible is out of context. This passage was from a disciple. While we can infer a disciple could be divinely inspired, it does not mean they will not have bias from their culture. Anyone who has studied history in ancient times would know how oppressed women are. Jesus didn't actually apply the passage specifically for women, it was for everyone. In fact he didn't even tell them that men are superior to women. This male supremacy was written by his disciples who clearly have their own biases. Jesus even allowed divorces yet his disciples seemed to have contradicted that.
The Quran of the other hand actually commands a women to be silent and submissive, to be beaten and raped and be treated like a slave. Quran is extremism. The person who dictated the Quran is also a paedophile and a child groomer. He even brags about this saying Muhammad has been observing Aisha ever since she was a toddler.
I read first: “I have my bible disguised as a Korean” and I was so confused
Not sure why then keep saying koran instead if Quran. They always have to make stuff english
Cuts to asian woman, right as he says it… definitely confusing
@@duplicarus lmao yea that's what I thought too lol
I was so confused too💀
Even the subtitles thought that 😭
"Have a nice day, because you ruined mine by exposing my lies"
You must be delusional
Christians are not what they were 400 years ago .
I didn't see that fella to be dressed as Christian .... do you ?
Abu Umama narrated: “The Messenger of God said, ‘Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.’ ”
Muhamamd also marries 6year old, he’s pedo.
😂😂🎉
How is it lies? The Bible is the truth
People who love Quran
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El coran dice que los hombres pueden azotar y golpear a sus mujeres. Además fomentan la pedofilia.
There is nothing to be proud of.
@@AlyThree3 there is everything to be proud of, you’ve probably never even read a full page of the Quran don’t be ignorant
@@AmigoFriendHabibi Actually, what I meant is there are 2B Muslims in the world, it's hardly a flex and it seems to be used to milk likes. But let's for a second say you are right, you don't have to actually read it do you? Because even if you do read the whole Quran and sees the flaws in it, others will tell you it depends on the "interpretation". So there is really no basic answer. But you know what will be the best answer to Quran? Trying to leave Islam. Or just disrespecting Muhammad, In some countries it's enough. If you need specific Surahs to help you get on your way to being Ex-Muslim I'll be glad to be helpful.
@@AmigoFriendHabibi same with the Bible, Habibi my Amigo/Friend
“It’s out of context” Like people don’t take the Quran out of context either, this is to show a double standard
Both books are filled with outdated barbaric ideologies and mostly fictional filth. The way forward is through science.
Do you know anything about the Koran? Have you read it? Or do you just repeat what your favorite blue checkmarks on Twitter say?
@@user-vn5xj6yc9p 1. It doesn't matter wether he read it or not, all he did was point a double standard and extreme principles in a treatment to two similar religious books.
2. It's the Quran not Koran, so it seems neither are you in a place to speak, or to report what your favorite source said.
Agree
@@OmarShtaiwi_ Well Quaran is the English name, but many languages, my own included write it as Koran. He probably used his own language. That’s just a linguistic barrier and should not negate his point from that fact alone
Yall complaining that he took it out of context. That's kind of the whole point of it. He's showing the double standard where people will believe something without context from the Quran but won't from the Bible. People are quick to believe out of context things if it's from the Quran simply because they don't understand it and would rather use it as a guise to hate.
Well no, see the guy who said its extreme isn't even really a Christian. any Christian would know that it's not extreme, its not taken out of context, women should be silent in church.
He was assuming that the person wouldn’t be deceitful and take things out of context, so when he thought that was what it said, he thought it was extreme. If the Bible actually said it like that word for word, that would be extreme, but it is a completely different scenario if you actually read it. (1 Timothy Chapter 2 I believe)
@@orboan4686 you are proving his point ☺️👍
@@sorayakapetti not really, Soraya.
@@sorayakapetti yeah please elaborate because right now you just have a baseless, false claim.
You can’t handle the truth! 😂😂😂
To be fair though when I read Fundamentals of General, Organic, and Biological Chemistry (MasteringChemistry) it took me over 5 years because my brain slow and I needed to google the vocabulary and chaos theory and abstract ideas really fuck with my head and cause mania and other negative symptoms of internal mental breakdownz.😂🎉
Nice too see people judge with no context :D
@@isukatgemz2166me when bible tells me to drown little babies : 😊😊😊
😂😂 you don't know man you weren't there
Bro realized it was the Bible and panicked.
"Wow that's [quran] totally extreme" "actually that's the bible" man has exited the chat
He didn’t just exit he straight skeeted out of the cameras view
surah 21: 7-8
Another idiot saying thinks that don’t understand
"9:5 "... fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war) ...
Your average Muslims are more extreme than christians. Because their viewpoints of the scripture is different.
For muslims Quran is straight up gods word and not disputable.
For average christians the bible are human words who got inspired by god and are actively disputed.
One viewpoint is more radical than the other.
“Have a nice day”
The man was too stunned to speak😂😂😂
See let me explain this to you , in Bible there is two parts old and new testament and in this video this guy is taking about old one . And Christian don't follow the old testament . Old one is just for the knowledge of how people were treating back then.
@@Soso-vh3tz do u really, i mean really believe in that ?!
@Mrnoob i meant she's cherry-picking what to believe in Christianity, while it has been fabricated by humans
+ what if i do ?
@Mrnoob yt deleted one of your comments, what did u say ?
No, he has no time.for baseless arguments.
The Quran is better than the bible
Not even close
💯
Muslim here,we need to understand that it isn't right to compare! This would only cause issues especially because many people believe in different things. So I would say we should just not assume things because just like the Qur'an,the Bible was also made by none other than Allah. We have always been taught that all religions shall be equal even if it isn't demonstrated in the real world,haven't we?
Haqq
I'm a Non religious person here.. You shouldn't treat anyone with hatred or judge people that you don't know. This is what creates war... treat others how you want to be treated.
“Nooo dont expose us”
saying women should be silent is not the same as calling women mentally deficient saying their menstrual cycle breaks prayer saying it's okay to beat,your wife saying women will be eternally deflowered in jannah marrying a 5 year old deflowering her when shes 9 having to make her "the best of plump" for muhammand and having to have her clean his come stained clothes
all of these are from hadith and Quran 🥰 you can search it up
@@valmadf They literally don't have to pray when menstruating. They get to relax.
When beat, Rasulullah said lightly. It's literally explained already. A simple google search will benefit you.
Al-Hasan al-Basri said: “This (the Hadith) means that it should not cause pain.”
‘Ata said: I said to Ibn `Abbas, what is the kind of hitting that is not harsh? He said, Hitting with a siwak and the like. [A siwak is a small stick or twig used for cleaning the teeth - Translator]
Wherever you got that eternally deflowered from, it's either weak or entirely fabricated. Ever heard of Hoor al-Ayn?
Age of consent was puberty back then. And there is nothing about "the best of plump".
And cleaning your husband's clothes is not a good thing?
Come on, just because you read two Hadith translations and immediately dismiss 1400 years of Islamic knowledge doesn't mean you found the truth.
@@gokunexusss 😂😂weak hadith yet it's in your books ?? also there's a hadith about aishas mother making her "the best of plump" at the age of 6. tell me what the best of plump can mean for a 6 year old. muhammand was married to aisha before she reached puberty and there's no law against having your child wife do immoral things to you or you doing immoral things to her you can't say "oh well it was normal back then" bc muhammand isn't an example for a certain period of time he's an example for all Muslims throughout time he's the most perfect man in Islam 😂😂 but he fiddles children and does mutah
@@gokunexusss 😂😂a 6 year old cleaning their husband's cum stains is just cleaning their clothes ? you Muslims are so weird
Ahhh yes
Hypocrisy
How
@@grimlygood3101
He didn't wanna talk after finding out that it was from the bible.
@@Jonas-ej7id ohhh thank you for cleaning it up
I seen this verse used by many people saying that the bible is unfair. That is because people isn't reading the context of that verse. If anyone wants to know what does that ver mean just reply to me.
@@markanthony1239 what does it mean
This takes the quote "Dont judge a book by its cover" to a another level
@@David.0000 its still the same book
@@rashiidabdallah1648 Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. 🙏🙏🙏
He had a God *
@@David.0000 but has a God according to John 17:3 and John 20:17
@@rashiidabdallah1648 God the father, God the Son and the Holy Spirit. 🙏🙏🙏
Emotional damage
from total extreme to have a nice day 😂 everyone needs to see this
"I mean Extremely true, let me finish my word.."
Yeah I prefer the koran version when you can beat woman instead of asking them to keep silent in the place of worship
Umm sir I was joking it's actually the quran
@The baseball fishers joke?
Lol
@@InshalPlays bro how did you not realize that what he said was a joke
“You exposed my ignorance and embarrassed me. Have a “nice” day” 🤣🤣👍
there are things like these in every religious books but christian dont impose it ..
@@strange8628 No, they ignore it and pretend that the bible is all “Glory to God” come on.... 🤦🏻♀️
@@bodhiswayze1892 good thing they ignore it as comparing the condition of women in islamic to christian countries
What about Islamic terroist attacks
@@bodhiswayze1892 the verses were taken out of context and they were also from the Old Testament which modern day Christians don’t have to follow everything they did in the Old Testament like sacrificing animals, etc
At least Christians dont trade woman
lol it’s the other way around actually, In Europe back in the 1400 hundred’s (most of Europe was Christian) or so men in Europe used to trade their wife or sisters, the hijab was created to protect women and to represent modesty get your facts right.
bro we dont either where did u hear that
Bro where did you get this info . These are lies
"Oh it's the bible actually."
"Have a nice day."
person 1: it's extreme
person 2: it's from your religious book
person 1: it's out of context
It is out of context: the English translation of silent is in error and most pastors explain this. It is speaking to self-control and respectfulness among Yehovah God’s people, in contrast to the bawdiness and vulgarity common in pagan temples of the time.
Person 1 is correct. Meanwhile, muslims are told to lie and kill to promote their death cult, abrogate their scriptures and reinterpret anything that contradicts their false beliefs.
@@annemurphy9339 Bible literally tells women to stay silent in places of worship, and they should ask their husband at home should they have doubts.
No. It's not taken out of context.
@@malsawmzela609 Your comment proves you have no idea what you’re even speaking about: 1 Timothy 2:11 begins with an assumption about women which was foreign in ancient cultures, ie, encouraging the teaching of women. This idea ran in contrast to most cultural and even religious traditions of the time. In traditional Judaism, women were not allowed to study under the Law, yet Paul’s words here start by following the pattern of Christ who taught women as part of His ministry (John 4:27-30; 11:28-30; 19:25). From the context of the Greek language, Paul’s prior comments, & the culture of the time, it is clear Paul doesn’t mean women are to remain “silent,” meaning completely soundless as suggested in some older translations. Proof is that the same Greek word - hesuchios - is used in several biblical verses where total silence is clearly not implied (1 Timothy 2:2; 1 Thessalonians 4:11; 1 Peter 3:4). Rather, the term simply implies a peacefulness or calmness in demeanor. In ancient times, religious expression could be loud, showy, even hysterical, and this is what Paul wishes to avoid within YHVH God’s church.
@@annemurphy9339 1 Corinthians 14:34-35: “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church”
Say what? Lmao. It's not that complicated. You don't have to dissect every verse until it leaves only the part you want.
as a Christian, these double standards really bother me. the people who get offended by this don't read their Bible thoroughly enough smh.
edit: don't go in the replies, it's just useless rambling/arguing.
@malek mamdouh There are different looking Qurans in the world
The Quran is one book
@@kesseki111 yes the only book that helped humanity to make bomb!🐖
@@vitthalshukla7745 what! Did Quran provided Atom bomb formula to US so they can attack Heroshima and Nagasaki....
I have read the whole thing and the fact people live their lives based off that fictional book is mind blowing
Please make an extended version of this.
There isn't a great deal of difference between the two books to be honest.
most Christians wouldn't know because they don't read the Bible
same as muslims and if they do read it, they do so in a language they don't even understand
No dosent most Christian’s reads the Bible?
@@RaylynN33 most Muslims certainly don't they're just Muslims because they're mom and dad who also haven't read the Koran tell them
@@R-Righteousthey stay in the peace cult for fear of death
@@IslamicTerd2not at all, a lot of us actually read the Qur’an, im well aware of death but certainly don’t fear it. you will tho for sure when it’s time comes.
My dude really said have a nice day after finding out it was a Bible
edit:Im famous
He was already leaving, people have work other than feeding propaganda
Yeah.
like I understand its probably a bit deceitful. and thats probably why he walked away.
but knowing you’re in an interview you shouldn’t walk away once you’ve agreed to participate, otherwise you’d look defeated.
so in these moments its best to explain your thoughts.
I agree with him...He was deceived...
Why doesn't the musIi,m tell everyone about how 9: 29 of kuran says to fight chrlstlans and tews until they are subdued,
Or why kuran calls chrlstlans and tews worst of creat,ures??
Or why kuran say musIi,m men are allowed to keep (non musIi,m marrled wom,en) as
s x sIav, es
How is any of this a good thing??
@@brockcharz2104 Lol you calling it the Kuran and not the Quran shows how little you actually know abt what it says there.
First off this book was written for ppl in the year 400, when slavery was the best way to keep a prisoner, of war mostly.
And if you actually read more, forcing yourself on a slave isn't allowed, cus you should treat them like family.
Also, these rules are allowed to change if better solutions are founded.
“Have a nice day” 😂😂😂
Interesting, but . . . the difference lies in how strongly believers adhere to their respective holy texts. Christian societies have been largely secularised for centuries; Muslim societies have not, maybe with exception of Turkey.
I mean, I’m Christian and even I know it says this in the Bible. Anyone who is offended needs to learn their Bible.
Fr
What scripture is that?
@@kaylakay7779 It's in 1 Timothy , chapter 2.
Yes but it's not put in complete context.
@@organicsunshine89 a woman's role should be a role she choses herself, just like anyone else
Also if people did their research a lot of the “rules” from back then, they were done away, since Jesus got rid of the Mosaic laws.
He read out of 1st Corinthians, so it still applies today
@@bagelboy310 it was out of context
Matthew 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.”
So Jesus in the Bible is a liar for abolishing Mosaic laws?
@@Hans-fk7od The Matthew 5:17 verse was again taken out of context. The back story was he has come to fulfill what it says in scripture and die for our sins. When he is taking about the law he is talking about the 10 commandments which he explains later on if you were to keep reading. Don’t put one verse with our looking at the one before and after it.
@@bagelboy310 In the New Testament, Paul speaks of women who were in the church who were teaching people about Jesus, like Priscilla. She and her husband Aquila went around teaching people. I do know that in 1 or 2 other occasions, Paul mentioned a woman who was teaching people the gospel of Jesus Christ.
People who want to talk about The Bible and they're not Christian need to research scriptures and find out what they mean before trying to discredit the gospel of Jesus Christ. There are thousands of Bible teachings online. I'm so tired of these cheap shots.
Which religious book has pedophilia in it?
The Quran lol
I would say don’t use the Quran as the cover of a bible.
my reactions would be:
"oh....."
*shows its the bible*
"oh................"
Same I have absolutely no idea what’s going on
😈😈👽Men was at majour posts then,maybe, women were secondry workers in old jews out of egypt, AM I WRONG, OR WERE THEY ENTERPRISING AS THEIR HUSBANDS, DEOENDS ON CONTEST ....😈😈
@@IamSunil017 what
"oh crap, I did a blasphemy. Better walk away."
"oh crap i did a blaspemy better walk away" that is my impression of you😂😂
@@blinkerz4676 Actually, I added a comma and period & capitalised my I & B.
Better work on your impressions. 😉
@@kylei4153 no
@@blinkerz4676 hahaha
@@blinkerz4676 bro made an impression on a rext
"Have a nice day". Gold
There is absolutely no sexism in the Qur'an. Sexism is a term made by humans. Allah SWT knows best
A lot of religious folks don't even know their own religious book🤦♂️
Dont assume he is christian😂 secondly quran is a lot worse; Abu Umama narrated: “The Messenger of God said, ‘Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.’ ”
Dont forget muhammad married 6 year old, totally pedo😂 Jesus did not marry anyone and did not lust
It's Old Testament. Christians don't follow it. Christians follow the gospels.
Ofc, people of any religion barely do.
@TheDoomFan2004 yes if they did then they won't be religious.
@@TheDoomFan2004 how is this possible? I am Muslim and I had memorized complete Quran (Muslims Book) at age of 9
That section was an example of the Corinthians rules and if you added context you would know that Paul was condemning the Christian’s in Corinth for thinking that way
Yup Ikr these guys will do anything to misguide christians who don't read the Bible
@@jesuslovesyou7069 how can u be a christian and not read the bible and not know how to defend your faith? He misleads the lost lol
No Paul was not condemning. He was giving out orders in the name of Jesus. I read it just a week ago in my usual family prayer time and well ,my mom didn't utter a word 😬
@@vinuthna3135 Yes totally believable with your traditional Indian name. I imagine a Hindu family would be shocked for you to whip out your bible.
@@myopinionsmayoffendyou lol 😂 I'm an Indian Christian. Not all indian Christians have Christian or english names. Grow up.
The man was so flabbergasted he couldn’t come up with anything to say about it 😂
Shows you their double standards smh
Wait what??????
That was the best eye opening video.
Him: That's Totally Extreme
"But it's actually the Bible, here look"
Him: Welp, then that's totally Alright. Have a Nice Day
He never said that it was okay. He realized he was wrong by walking away rather than defending it
Yup just continue assuming man ur doing a great job trying to not make it worse.
They are trying to mock the bible but their own book says the bible is from God 🤣 “He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. Before, as guidance for the people. And He revealed the Qur'an.” 3:3-4
What a bunch of morons🤣
@@lorxandion6261 it is extreme is you take it out of context, but all Muslims do that so whatever.
@@geographybasics5408 "all muslims" yakhi dont group all muslims into 1 place.
Zakat is obligatory upon every Muslim.
There is a certain amount of money or items of trade that one should have in order to give zakaat.... So it's not compulsory for every Muslim
hibacheema8813
6 3%
If u have the set amount then its compulsory if u don't then it's not compulsory
Because it's prescribed as a way to go to heaven.
Zakat is obligatory upon every Muslim who can pay it.. if you can't.. a smile 😃 is counted as zakaat to
Have a nice day 😊!
That man been a christian his whole life but never reading it.
Imagine basing your entire life's belief system and world view on a book which you haven't even read. 🙄🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
"That's totally extreme"
That's bible
"Understandable, have a nice day"
🤡🤡
They are trying to mock the bible but their own book says the bible is from God 🤣 “He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. Before, as guidance for the people. And He revealed the Qur'an.” 3:3-4
What a bunch of morons🤣
Lol
But I’m sure you think 4 year olds can be transgender. Nothing unreasonable or weird about that
@@MEMESSOSTUPID bro what💀
@@MEMESSOSTUPID ????
“They are not permitted to speak and should be in submission”
Other people: that’s out of context
Me: AND DONT YOU FORGET!
YES SIRRRR
Okay I wont forget its out of context.
They are not permitted to speak and should be in a submarine. Thats totally extreme.
fun part is not out of context
@@Goldie070 whats the fun part?
They don't feel secure and safe when they're exposed.
I've almost read the entire bible this year (currently at Hebrews) and i gotta say it's not all peace and flowers. A lot of what some people take as extreme in the Quran is written in the bible as well.
Yeah but Christians don’t really follow the Bible do they? Nor do Jews! It’s only Muslims who stick to their faith and have full complete conviction of the Quran!!
Took that verse out of complete context lol.
Nope.
The context makes it worse.
Explain the context then
Yes when you add context it magically becomes ok to tell women to go silent.
Thats not what the video is about
That quote doesn’t do well out of context, does it 💀
all he does is pull certain verse out of the bible like this and literally depicts only that line with no form of context.
It doesn't matter really. People were quick to jump on it because of what he said about the "Quran" not the meaning behind it
@@noelbaudy5371 I know I’m just saying in general
It's the same with context.
Corinthians is a quotation type of book where the author quotes the things people used to believe at that time and respond to it for eg this verse i.e 1 Corinthians 14:34 Paul is quoting the thing people in Corinth used to believe at that time and he responds in 1 Corinthians 14:39
So therefore my brothers and sisters desire to speak what God has revealed and don't stop anyone from speaking in other languages .
Should read the verses and Tafsirs about marrying young girls as young as literally new born. Maybe that would help.
Also Qur'an 65 4 talks about pre menarcheal women. Nisa. Puberty and menarche are different things. Girls are adults after puberty and before menarche. Exactly what the tafsir are saying. About young women.
Stop hating on Islam. This is taken out of context
This quote is applied to men as well in an earlier verse and it’s about etiquette in church. You should be silent and submit yourself to God during worship. You can cherry-pick verses from a book you haven’t read but you can’t fool the people that actually have.
The Bible cherry picked a lot of things and has a lot of fantastical things that aren't possible whatsoever.... funny how naive people are to believe something written so very long ago. They also spoke a lot differently too but looks like that's not registering to most people. I could go on and on about things written by humans but I'd be here all year going back and forth with people who have different beliefs than me... and we wouldn't get anywhere because different beliefs are different beliefs
@@dawniebug784 what’s written in the Bible that’s unrealistic? Could the creator of the world not part the sea or completely flood the world?
@@user-dq3gw5ww8y He doesn't exist.
@@user-dq3gw5ww8y ok well one of the rules set for the hebrews by Yahweh himself was that if a woman was raped she would be required to marry her rapist. The rapist would have to pay for the wedding, though.
Me sitting here about to not be able to love the people I love people of Christans cherry picking
I find this dumb, because almost all religions have extreme parts to them this doesn’t mean we should trick people into thinking one is more extreme than the other.
There's no extreme parts to any religion. It's only some people that take it to the extreme
There's no extreme parts to any religion. It's only some people that take it to the extreme
@@feralzi8930 your comment was so good you had to write it twice
@@viktorsavic7326 it’s a youtube glitch. happens all the time
Exactly! Exactly!
BRO IS SCARED TO PUT VERSE NUMBER.....
he have a nice day
He's like a child the way you marches of with his "have a nice day". Lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He left to have a meeting with the priest 😂💀
To bang some little boys.
Bro really said Korean it’s Quran
“Have a nice day” 😭
I love all religions if only everyone could get along
I go to a school that has people from everywhere with all different types of religions, we all treat each other equally 😉
I agree if only everyone could get along with the real world :(
I don't. Genital mutilation of infants is cruel.
@@FA-hb3hf That makes no sense lol.
I don't have anything personal against atheists but most of them are so rude and judgemental.
@@Cbd_7ohm giving birth is cruel because the women suffers 😀
Haha, thank you for taking that verse out of context brother
The context makes it worse, lol
@@ayhemshaban9745
Then you likely don't understand the context
@@vulombemabobo5330
Oh, I definitely do.
Sure, enlighten us friend with your understanding of "the context"
@@ayhemshaban9745 Alright
@@ayhemshaban9745 Correct me if I'm wrong anywhere or have missed out on something since we should all endeavour to understand scripture in all it's fullness and holiness👌
This guy:
Disrespecting the Quran ✅
Understanding the Bible 🚫
“that’s totally extreme” bros a whole NPC
He's not going to read the verses before or after it though lol
Can you?
Yeah tell us about the context that makes this sentence acceptable
@@maddieb.4282 Hey Maddie I got u super simple this is verse was important on the bases of historically women in the temple were excluded and at the time weren’t allowed to even ReadScripture they would teach the children at home basic stories and the men would expand, the problem was that eventually when after Jesus came and went to heaven after his resurrection women were now in churches and during worship some would go out of their way to ask questions during times where it wasn’t appropriate, God in basic terms is saying women wait until it is time appropriate to ask questions whether it’s after service or home or someone who can explain correctly it’s not too deep there were women at the time of Paul who he even said were co workers of the Gospel , and a level of authority wasn’t made to be oppressive it was made to help people at a correct time,
@@maddieb.4282 Hey Maddie I got u super simple this is verse was important on the bases of historically women in the temple were excluded and at the time weren’t allowed to even ReadScripture they would teach the children at home basic stories and the men would expand, the problem was that eventually when after Jesus came and went to heaven after his resurrection women were now in churches and during worship some would go out of their way to ask questions during times where it wasn’t appropriate, God in basic terms is saying women wait until it is time appropriate to ask questions whether it’s after service or home or someone who can explain correctly it’s not too deep there were women at the time of Paul who he even said were co workers of the Gospel , and a level of authority wasn’t made to be oppressive it was made to help people at a correct time,
What does it matter which part he reads? It’s all in the Bible. The point is that there are double standards. If he told the people it was the Bible before reading it, they would say it’s perfectly fine.
I interpreted the “have a nice day” as “I don’t have the energy to argue about this.” Believe what you want to believe and I’ll do the same. Have a good day.
Look at the manner in which it's spoken. It's clearly a thinly veiled "F you".
Ur lack of understanding social cues is hilarious bc i wonder how many people intentionally insulted u and u didn’t see
thats kinda how i saw it too? he had nothing more to say so he left.
@@amila_ on the other hand imagine how many greetings you mistook for an invitation to a fight.
This video is very old, good seeing it on my shorts again
Western and Hindus live in there own bubble dont disturb them 😂😂
Put that bible quote back in context please.
There is no context. It's what it says
@@mgray999 that was a letter from Paul to Timothy in regards to a disorderly church that was full of gossips and loudmouths
@@johnathonrouse7581 knowladge 👍 t
@@johnathonrouse7581 bingo
Just like how how Christians and media put the context in verses from Quran? Don’t like it when your book is used in similar way do you?
The secret second twist where you find out he's reading the laws of the Jews
Paul said it in the Epistles. And after seeing 35 years of insanity in churches, I can’t disagree.
It's not. Actually. It something Paul said. Let me explain it more.
Paul is one of the disciples. And he was the only one (According to me) that didn't put women down or wanted women to be submissive to the world but instead he encouraged women and men both in various ways be it for not getting married or spreading the Gospel. He encouraged Priscilla and loved her work for spreading the Gospel along with her husband. So maybe read all of Paul's as well as Christ's teaching.
FYI, Jesus Christ Himself has said this to his disciples that if you look at a women l@stfully then pluck your own eyes.
@@olivia-kn2mc yes. but Jesus also encouraged women not to put men in that situation where they'd need to gouge their eyes out. God said its a sin to make others sin.
@null null I can't tell what you're trying to say?
@@whydowehaveuserhandlesnow well when you say it like that it sounds like he’s just saying don’t try to seduce a random guy
Riyad as salihin 68💀
"Have a nice day". When it gets too heavy.😂😂😂
Is there a full length video?
yes
@@Hepacivirus link or title ?
@@aveliiu just type Karim Jovian quran experiment and you’ll find it
Why doesn't the musIi,m tell everyone about how 9: 29 of kuran says to fight chrlstlans and tews until they are subdued,
Or why kuran calls chrlstlans and tews worst of creat,ures??
Or why kuran say musIi,m men are allowed to keep (non musIi,m marrled wom,en) as
s x sIav, es
How is any of this a good thing??
@@brockcharz2104 I suggest you type properly before you expect people to respond to your questions 😊
There's a lot of people in here who don't care about the context, and just make fun of the Bible cause of it, sadly, that's how to world works
Same goes for Quran and any other religion. Toxic people just wanna argue.
Even with the context its even worse
@@sbgaming002 no it's not lmao the Quran is much worse Muhammad the pedo🥴
@@sbgaming002 have u read that part of the Bible? Cause my parents are Christian and they're not doing anything harsh to each other or whatever, they love each other, so clearly u didn't read it
@@m10kalecala29 ofc he never read it , just straight up lying
At least he said have a nice day! 😂
Bro is reading that but it says the exact same thing in the Quaran
that wasn't the point 🤦🏻♂️
There is nothing like that in the Quran. There is a verse that tells women to speak but just not to make their voices overly feminine when talking to men:
O wives of the Prophet! You are not like any other women: if you are mindful ˹of Allah˺, then do not be overly effeminate in speech ˹with men˺ or those with sickness in their hearts may be tempted, but speak in a moderate tone.
Al-Aḥzāb, Ayah 32
This verse speaks directly and more importantly to the wives of the Prophet (peace be upon them) but when the Quran sets an example of the Prophet or any other prophet of God then it means it is applicable to us just not as strict.
For example we are told to follow Abraham peace be upon him as it is in the Quran:
You have an excellent example in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people, “We totally dissociate ourselves from you and ˹shun˺ whatever ˹idols˺ you worship besides Allah. We reject you. The enmity and hatred that has arisen between us and you will last until you believe in Allah alone.”
Al-Mumtaḥanah, Ayah 4
Sexism in the Quaran: THAT’S WAY TOO EXTREME WTF
Sexism in the Bible: *oh, well have a nice day my fellow Christian
The Quran is the literal word of God as dictated to Muhammad.
The Bible is written centuries after the fact and is the work of people who were inspired by God, translated with certain words losing their original intent and/or meaning, and are actively disputed to this day.
@@chrisdawson1776Quran also says the Bible is the word of God
@@thecossackcrusaderofholybr8448 Muslims should follow the Bible then.
@@chrisdawson1776 Yes
@@chrisdawson1776 But they don’t because they don’t think, they reject the truth.
When you realize that was speaking to a very specific group of people who were young widows who are causing gossip… and not to be applied to all women.
It was a letter to a very specific church not a commitment from God….
Cope
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 So would you rather condemn all Muslims for terrorism or recognize only a certain group has done that?
@@anondabomb This isn't the same. That line in the Bible is still overtly misogynistic
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 so when it says the same of men when taken in context, then I guess that’s somehow also mysandristic. Then again, when you are addressing the issues of a specific area and talk about men and women…
@@anondabomb It's pretty obviously not directed at men as a sex. Plus it doesn't call them gossips
Im a polytheist i would just answer with “ that tracks” 😂
Most Christians don’t know how to answer hard questions. The same author also preached with several women in the church and tells the church to have women cover their heads to show they have the proper authority for anyone who doubted so that they can prophecy in the church. Quoting one verse sure can do a number on the entire thing.
Paul isn’t talking about teaching, he’s talking about how in Ephesus, the women (not all of them as some of them were business savvy or had some informal education). Would all sit together, and because they weren’t used to sitting and listening, they would begin to talk and it would get louder and louder until the pastor would bang a big stick telling them to be quiet. Paul is telling the women not to talk in the church. Not that one cannot participate, but shut your mouth during the service. In fact, in rural part of Turkey near Izmir is still this way.
Had the chance to hear a minister from there speak, and his church trains people to disciple the women no more than three of them at a time, and can only speak five to ten minutes before they’re off with something else. This isn’t because they’re unintelligent, but sitting and listening for extended periods of time is a skill developed from childhood, and when a person is deprived of it, their brains do not learn how to retain focus for long. This goes for men and women.
Gotta read the rest of Paul’s writings. Either this verse is being misunderstood by us, or Paul was wishy washy and controdicted himself over and over again from one chapter to the next.
Usually, feminists stick to the verses of Paul setting up women to lead, and misogynists like to quote these verses in isolation. Both are incorrect, but totally reconcilable.
Holy books weakness is that everyone can interpret it in their way, how they want. Ed: all of them.
2 weaknesses
Fire
Actually there is an interpretation of the gods word, but you don’t know that cuz you didn’t even read it
@@arkham5940 Sure. 🤣 Exc. relevarion is written perfectly to understand, how lamb looks or how many times honks you will hear before end, or who is babylonian whore. It would be exactly how it is written. I am glad that some random furie profile knows what i read.
@@arkham5940 Stop with councils. This guy knows. 🤣
Holy books are full of holes.
The hypocrisy at it's best
Paul writes to all churches telling the women to not talk *sigao* meaning "voluntarily talk during clamor". This was the first time women were allowed to go to church services and Paul didn't want them getting in trouble. No one was supposed to talk except the three leaders and only one at a time (They also could be women). He previously asked them to speak prophecy in the Church, this again this reestablishes his support for women in such a sexist time. Allah tells mankind that it's okay to hit a disobedient wife and have sex with your slaves even if they have another husband. Those darn Christians sound *really* hypocritical to me.
Imagine how good a book would be if it were actually written by god.
The guy doesn’t want to adit or believe the fact that it’s from the bible
Judging this guy “out of context” too
You literally saw the context, are you American?
@@aanbi3191 are you American..?
@@aanbi3191 we really didn't see the context, it was LiTeRaLLy cut
@@Altar.00 Does the guy even believe the Bible? What do you mean, "What else do u need to know?" We literally don't know anything about this guy LOL.
@@Altar.00 That's pure speculation though. And even real Christians would highly doubt that 59% of NYC is legitimate Christian.
“I dont care” would have been a better arguement than that lmao
That's why I read "Goblet of Truth" and finally found the true knowledge not a blind belief. Have a nice day.
I read Fundamentals of General, Organic, and Biological Chemistry (MasteringChemistry) and I began to cook crack and sell it for 250$ an ounce and on science bruh mastering chemistry has allowed me to renew my faith in the high I get from smoking crack while jamming out to Nirvana.
Is amazing that in the bible woman should wearing hijab ,no alcohol ,no pork ,no dancing 😂
And yet they dont obey it
Even tho context is for sure needed to know what was being said in that passage, this is still a good example of people forming opinions of things after literally 0 research or thought of their own, so many people these days are so willing to just go with whatever everyone else is going with…
What is the context around this passage
Yeah, that description sounds precisely like organized religion, does it not?
It’s not a good example at all. It’s simply baiting. The guy thinks he’s giving his opinion on something and then finds out it’s a gotcha bait that will be used against him online.
Anyone who doesn’t have this response or gets upset has low iq. The typical response (most are low iq) is to act surprised and then accept defeat which is literally the same logic you’re using about forming opinions without research.
@@desdenova1 it does
@@katelyn984 Ur obviously not understanding whats being said here🙃
"Tell me you don't understand the bible without telling me you don't understand the bible"
Then explain it to us genius
@@mariamayman114 😂💞
@@mariamayman114 the whole bible? Can you read, or are you just lacking in comprehension?
@@flamingtoaster6989 girl I ain’t reading anything since we Muslims don’t understand anything and your bible is the correct book then explain to us that verse because it clearly says that women are less than man and don’t have rights to literally just speak
@@mariamayman114 extra chromosomes
Im not christian, but I still dont think thats extreme
"its disgusting untill its your own book"
That quote is literally saying shut up when you're in church and submit to learn the word.
This needs more attention
So why not say the same about men tho? "as women should be kept in silence", men can just be annoying in church if they want or something?
@@zannchristo Pretty sure the quote he's saying out of context is from Titus. But the whole chapter is about how to conduct oneself in church. The men get instructions too that go past being in church and at home. This guy only read a part so it sound sexist. But it kind of explains why synagogues are separate by sexes.
@@crystalross7943 but that's not the point
The point is that Christians don't know their own word
That's out of context. There was a certain moment during the churches history where woman were particularly talkative during service. So, in response this note was written
same way...people quote quran out of context... but people dont wanna listen to the truth...instead, they wanna argue over it
1 Corinthians 14:34 - the women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but are to submit themselves, as the law also says.
1 Corinthians 14:35 - If they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home, since it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.
14:34 is the one said in the video, and this is from the standard Christian bible. I won't tell you what to think or try to change your belief, but here's your context.
when they think its from the quran they dont ask if its out of the context, they say thats extreme but when they show that its from the bible they will say its out of context, smh hypocrites.
Dont cry when the shoe is on the other foot 😂
not the christians saying it was taken out of context wtf 💀💀 that line alone is already a red flag i don’t need no context LMFAOO
I love how you are going to ignore the fact that in the right context he was protesting against the silencing of women but you do you just know you are being ignorant
If you aint read the whole chapter then don't spread this bs...
@@fiftycaliber2972 this isn’t bs this is common sense loll. of course you’re a christian so you try to prove others wrong about your own religion. 😂
Hey honey, so there was this man-
"Tell me about it"
🤣🤣🤣
Stop doing this. We Muslim bielive in all the prophets and all their books and teachings which was given to them by God. Stop making separations. We're all followers of the same God and his prophets.
You think women should be silent then. Okay. Interesting moral choices you make
CORRECT BUT IF U ARE A MUSLIM U DONT KNW WHY GOD SEND FINAL TESTEMENT THE HOLY QURAN? BECAUSE THEIR BOOKS HAS BEEN CORRUPTED BRO PLEASE KNW THE REASON WHY GOD SEND FINAL TESTEMENT THE HOLY QURAN ❤
@@RobespierreThePoofWhen did he say that?
May Allah guide them to islam