This is now 40 years ago old and was just before schools ended on BBC1 anyway at the end of June then 1983. From September then, they transferred to BBC2 as Daytime on Two then onwards of course. Thank you too!
Genuine BBC Television presentation often cut to Ceefax without the use of an opening page during the early 1980s but from around 1984 front cover main index pages or slide versions of opening pages became the norm providing a much more flexible means of joining the Ceefax Newsreel cycle.
I had just turned thirteen when this came out and remember Sunny Summer Holiday (not knowing what it was called at the time). A tune I always associate with holidays in Wales (especially Llandudno).
As before, thank you of course for this. Very nice to see Ceefax in vision as it was then at the time. Test Card F had ended in April 1983, and by the May the BBC had replaced it really with Ceefax, as of course here. 10 out of 10 really of course for sure too!
Although billed in Radio Times as closedown regular daytime use of the test card on BBC1 and BBC2 ceased in early 1983. Ceefax in vision sequences had been around from 1980 but I only became aware of this in early 1982.
You are so right of course. I am a member of the Test Card Circle and read in one of their magazines that in 1983 Radio Times still listed these breaks as Closedowns even though by then they were actually Pages From Ceefax. It was not until January 1984 that the Radio Times started showing these times as Pages From Ceefax and the Closedown word was not used anymore as far as I know, on both BBC1 and BBC2 at the time. Thank you of course anyway though!!
But us the casual viewers never knew the titles of any of the tracks at the time on BBC1, BBC2 and Channel 4. It was certainly far better that dedicated test card tapes were played in combo with the test card and Pages From Ceefax instead of Radio 1 (for BBC1) Radio 2 (for BBC2) and your local ilr radio station or Capital FM (for channel 4) here in the UK when channel was off air like other countries did such as RTE radio 1 played in combo with the Philips 5544 when RTE TV was off air.
I well remember Sunny Summer Holiday without knowing the title in those days. Having just turned thirteen, I associated the tune with going on holiday to Llandudno!
The BBC schools countdown clock, memories of the class all rushing to the 'TV room' so as not to miss the start of the programme, in the days before the school had a video recorder!
The TV room in my school never had any chairs to sit on. Queue the teacher taking us to the main hall where there were chairs and then bringing the TV along from the TV room into the main hall. I bet many schools only had a black and white TV (405 lines and all) on castors.
Wot so the golden hour back then actually told you what the years were going to be before it started? Plus Peter Powell only had 20 mins to finish his Radio 1 show to present Top of the Pops (which I know was live that week)!
Ahh the dying embers of Schools on BBC1, interesting to see Schools also being shown on BBC2 in the afternoon on the same day because of Wimbledon, unsure if this was normal practice or whether it was a dry run for the autumn. You possibly also have one of, if not the final outing for BART.
Yes, this was nearly the end of For Schools Colleges-as they were listed at the time in the Radio Times on BBC1 until June 1983 as you say. Because, of course, from September 1983 onwards they moved to BBC2 under the Daytime On Two banner, where that was used up until 2010 from what I have read before. Thank you anyway though!!
Some interesting observation about the BBC TV schedules, as that was the time of year when the Wimbledon chapionships were underway in those days. From what I recall way back then Wimbledon came on air on BBC1 at 1.45pm, they were previewing the match about to come on centre court, not joining the match slready on centre court as they do today, because back then centre court and old court 1 the players came out on court at 2pm. Nowadays the players on centre court and new court 1 come out on court 1 at 1pm. Plus,back then often the men's singles final was played on American Inependence day, now they can't because Wimbledon starts a week later nowadays. Once every few years now when American Independence day is on a Sunday there's no play at all.
Mostly Pages From Ceefax-with music-around Play School; later the News; Pebble Mill At One; the children's See-Saw series; then back to Ceefax until children's tv started up. The day by then from January 1983 onwards started on BBC1 with Breakfast Time before going into Ceefax mainly. Thank you anyway of course!!@@1975ukandbored
As it was until October 1986 when actual Daytime tv started on BBC1 and some of BBC2 when all day programmes were shown from then onwards; meaning that Ceefax was not really shown any more. Thank you!!
@@1975ukandbored BBC1 did sometimes show a Star Movie at first up until the end of 1984 but by 1985 Ceefax had replaced it due to financial cuts at the time. That really then lasted until the start of Daytime tv towards the end of 1986 though too. Thank you!
It was better on the BBC. Those weren't the original disappearing dots though. The original BBC1 disappearing dots they faded to the blue background.. iTV's had 60 disappearing dots. There was a greater variety of music between programnes on BBC1's Schools and Colleges programming, though only one track.. Over on ITV they played 2 tracks between schools and colleges programmes, but they only ever played the same 2 tracks for the whole term, it was very boring. The dots kicked in in the final minute of each track on BBC1, while over on ITV the second of 2 tracks they played between programmes that track was always 1 minute long.
Perfect music for roller skating off the end of a cliff.
This is now 40 years ago old and was just before schools ended on BBC1 anyway at the end of June then 1983. From September then, they transferred to BBC2 as Daytime on Two then onwards of course. Thank you too!
Genuine BBC Television presentation often cut to Ceefax without the use of an opening page during the early 1980s but from around 1984 front cover main index pages or slide versions of opening pages became the norm providing a much more flexible means of joining the Ceefax Newsreel cycle.
I had just turned thirteen when this came out and remember Sunny Summer Holiday (not knowing what it was called at the time). A tune I always associate with holidays in Wales (especially Llandudno).
Very nice. The first clip is exactly 38 years ago today!
As before, thank you of course for this. Very nice to see Ceefax in vision as it was then at the time. Test Card F had ended in April 1983, and by the May the BBC had replaced it really with Ceefax, as of course here. 10 out of 10 really of course for sure too!
And thank you there for that of course too!
And this was just before schools ended on BBC1 of course so then too anyway!
23rd June 1983 appears to be the penultimate day of BBC Schools on BBC1. One day out from being the most treasured of finds.
I used to love counting down the dots !
The Lady announcer is Linda Stevens
Although billed in Radio Times as closedown regular daytime use of the test card on BBC1 and BBC2 ceased in early 1983. Ceefax in vision sequences had been around from 1980 but I only became aware of this in early 1982.
You are so right of course. I am a member of the Test Card Circle and read in one of their magazines that in 1983 Radio Times still listed these breaks as Closedowns even though by then they were actually Pages From Ceefax. It was not until January 1984 that the Radio Times started showing these times as Pages From Ceefax and the Closedown word was not used anymore as far as I know, on both BBC1 and BBC2 at the time. Thank you of course anyway though!!
Very nice too-thank you for this and well done of course!!
Summer Sunny Holiday is the tape being played with the first selection of pages, and one of the "Falklands" tapes being played with the second.
But us the casual viewers never knew the titles of any of the tracks at the time on BBC1, BBC2 and Channel 4.
It was certainly far better that dedicated test card tapes were played in combo with the test card and Pages From Ceefax instead of Radio 1 (for BBC1) Radio 2 (for BBC2) and your local ilr radio station or Capital FM (for channel 4) here in the UK when channel was off air like other countries did such as RTE radio 1 played in combo with the Philips 5544 when RTE TV was off air.
And Independent Local Radio (for ITV)
I well remember Sunny Summer Holiday without knowing the title in those days. Having just turned thirteen, I associated the tune with going on holiday to Llandudno!
The BBC schools countdown clock, memories of the class all rushing to the 'TV room' so as not to miss the start of the programme, in the days before the school had a video recorder!
The TV room in my school never had any chairs to sit on. Queue the teacher taking us to the main hall where there were chairs and then bringing the TV along from the TV room into the main hall.
I bet many schools only had a black and white TV (405 lines and all) on castors.
I would have been thirteen and in my second year at senior school then. Takes me back to adolescence!
Wot so the golden hour back then actually told you what the years were going to be before it started? Plus Peter Powell only had 20 mins to finish his Radio 1 show to present Top of the Pops (which I know was live that week)!
Ahh the dying embers of Schools on BBC1, interesting to see Schools also being shown on BBC2 in the afternoon on the same day because of Wimbledon, unsure if this was normal practice or whether it was a dry run for the autumn. You possibly also have one of, if not the final outing for BART.
Showing schools programmes on BBC2 was to take the burden off BBC1 as Wimbledon coverage was underway.
Yes, this was nearly the end of For Schools Colleges-as they were listed at the time in the Radio Times on BBC1 until June 1983 as you say.
Because, of course, from September 1983 onwards they moved to BBC2 under the Daytime On Two banner, where that was used up until 2010 from what I have read before. Thank you anyway though!!
Classic BBC1 daytimes.
Yes indeed too-if only of course. Thank you!!
Aww... was getting into those tunes :-(
Ruby Bart cut in! :-)
The Talk To Me had a touch of World In Action theme tune..
Ruby Bart wasn't just played between schools programmes.
2:20 That is a very long edition of Play School at 4.20! I think a programme might have been missed off that list!
Some interesting observation about the BBC TV schedules, as that was the time of year when the Wimbledon chapionships were underway in those days.
From what I recall way back then Wimbledon came on air on BBC1 at 1.45pm, they were previewing the match about to come on centre court, not joining the match slready on centre court as they do today, because back then centre court and old court 1 the players came out on court at 2pm. Nowadays the players on centre court and new court 1 come out on court 1 at 1pm.
Plus,back then often the men's singles final was played on American Inependence day, now they can't because Wimbledon starts a week later nowadays. Once every few years now when American Independence day is on a Sunday there's no play at all.
Peter Brook on the First Clip. Not sure who the female announcer is on the second clip.
One day before schools moved over to bbc2
Ben Wesley what did bbc1 show instead?
Mostly Pages From Ceefax-with music-around Play School; later the News; Pebble Mill At One; the children's See-Saw series; then back to Ceefax until children's tv started up. The day by then from January 1983 onwards started on BBC1 with Breakfast Time before going into Ceefax mainly. Thank you anyway of course!!@@1975ukandbored
As it was until October 1986 when actual Daytime tv started on BBC1 and some of BBC2 when all day programmes were shown from then onwards; meaning that Ceefax was not really shown any more. Thank you!!
And that was the time too when Neighbours and so on started on BBC1 also too.
@@1975ukandbored BBC1 did sometimes show a Star Movie at first up until the end of 1984 but by 1985 Ceefax had replaced it due to financial cuts at the time. That really then lasted until the start of Daytime tv towards the end of 1986 though too. Thank you!
5:07 The BBC's cheap knockoff of ITV's disappearing dots.
It was better on the BBC. Those weren't the original disappearing dots though. The original BBC1 disappearing dots they faded to the blue background.. iTV's had 60 disappearing dots.
There was a greater variety of music between programnes on BBC1's Schools and Colleges programming, though only one track.. Over on ITV they played 2 tracks between schools and colleges programmes, but they only ever played the same 2 tracks for the whole term, it was very boring. The dots kicked in in the final minute of each track on BBC1, while over on ITV the second of 2 tracks they played between programmes that track was always 1 minute long.
@@dvidclapperton They were better indeed really on BBC1; though ITV's were just as interesting too. Thank you!!