SHOULD YOU BUY THE NIKE VAPORFLY 3? - 100 MILE RUNNERS REVIEW | EDDBUD
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- Is the NIKE VAPORFLY 3 still THE BEST SUPER SHOE? - 100 MILE RUNNERS REVIEW | EDDBUD
I have enjoyed all of the 100 miles or 160km in the NIKE ZOOMX VAPORFLY 3. A soft blend of comfortable upper, cushioned midsole, excellent outsole. BUT its not as super as it once was.
This is a shoe I bought with my own cash for the purpose of disclosure.
Has this one worked out for you so far in 2023 or are you planning to pick it up soon?
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Really happy to have discovered this channel. I was an avid runner doing half marathons until covid hit and then I completely stopped exercising. Years later, after gaining way too much weight, I have signed up to a 10k and your videos and strava runs are motivating / helping inform me about running shoes :)
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Welcome aboard! Glad to hear it’s providing some inspiration
don't stop mate👌💪Mr Midsole always bringing quality
Refreshing to hear an honest review...compare to the others
Finally picked up a pair with a 25% discount. Seem to fit pretty good walking around the house. Can't wait to give them their first run test....if it stops raining!
Perfect review as usual! Being a long-time subscriber of this channel, I realized why I prefer it over tons of others available on CZcams. Most reviews can be described as Edd's initial review. And of course, due to this, they are not able to provide an objective picture and opinion. Therefore Edd's approach to reviewing is the best in class, and would always be my first choice. Keep going, Ed!
Much appreciated! I try and give what I can from experiences.
Thanks for this Edd. I picked up a pair of v2 for £145 instead of these. Happy with that choice. I’m not actually sure I’d race in the v2 but they’re good and reliable for speed work
So glad I've got a few pairs of the v1 to use. Got the v2 and v3, but the original is still the king. Crazy how most original versions are the best, a little like bands and debut albums.
Yeah they had something else back then
Good and honest review. I haven‘t bought them yet as I still have my Alphafly V1s and a fresh pair of Vaporfly 2s. Unless I find them heavily discounted somewhere, I won‘t get them…
Your criticism of the upper is fair. I guess I have the ideal foot shape as I find the fit ideal for my foot, though I do get a little bunching at the base of the lacing (as you described). I too have also found the durability of the outsole to be very good and have almost the same observations as you do.
However, I’m not finding the drop off in ZoomX like you are. If anything I’m finding it very consistent from first run. I’m approaching 100mi on my pair as well. In all honestly the whole ZoomX doesn’t last thing ended with the original Next% for me. The formulas we have now are very good, consistent and durable. Though I do agree Lightstrike Pro and FFTurbo both wear in and get better approaching 100mi and overall have better durability over longer ranges.
Fair and balanced review. Great job as always!
9 month after this review still stand by it? I got these bad boys coming in the mail. His review worried me considering the long run.
Thnx for the review bro
No problem 👍
Let's go, my PB go to shoe (5k, 10k, 21k & 42k)! (Had to sent the Prototypes back cause I had problems with the upper). So bought another pair, fixed the problem with pressure on the ankle & the heel is a point that needs attention. Actually I hope they go back to the next %2
Semi fan of the series...listening now...let's do this!...I used semi loosely
I always preferred the VF over the AF in the Nike race shoe lineup. And with this latest version, I still do. Same great midsole, good outsole, better stability, roomier upper and extremely light weight. It remains my go to race shoe but the pack is closing. And yes, in my books, Asics Metaspeed Sky+ and Saucony Endorphin Elite are very close. For sheer performance, the ZoomX midsole remains top dog.
Not a af2 fan. But like the lower profile shoes anyway. The Asics hits the spot best for me.
HI Edd cheers for the Reviews. Hope you are doing well in this strange days of main
I wonder what's your earthly mind and thoughts of yours saying about mizuno wave rider 27. Thank you
I agree, Edd. I am a big fan of the OG, v2 and left at v3. For some reason I can't nail down the fit, either too long or too short and thte arches protruding up. It is nothing like the VP1 and VP2. Tqvm for the video.
Thanks for watching
Hi Edd! Thank you for your unbiased review
Im a light runner with narrow feet and a marginally high arch. The width of the toe box and forefoot concern me on the V3. In short, I'm happy to have snagged a second pair of the V2. I totally agree...Zoom X loses its magic after approximately 100 miles.
It’s not the same feel after 100 miles. Still good but not quite the same
@EDDBUD totally agree.
When he’s talking about how the shoes fit he literally described my foot shape
Glad you can relate
Half size down fixed it for me and love it now like v1. v1 was a half size up 9.5 though, v2 TTS 9, and v3 down half a size 8.5. The midsole feels back on track with this one and not the firmer, stiffer, deader ride of v2. With the weight about the same as v3 and the sizing, it makes it the lightest for me too.
wish i saw this comment i should've went a half size down instead of up the toe area has too much wiggle room. weird how the sizing can change so much even between nike shoes.
Thanks!
Thanks for the super support!
I'm loving the Vaporfly 3. The roomier upper works for my foot shape and I enjoy the extra stability they have introduced. I might be fitter these days because my times in it are faster than what I posted in the earlier versions. In Australia we get a better deal as it only costs $330 RRP but you can usually find a retailer that offers a 15% off code so you pay around $280 AUD which is only around 145 pounds. And whenever you pay less for a shoe, you tend to overlook any minor negatives more so than if you fork out the full earth credits!
Would the Nike VaporFly 3 be good for indoor treadmill long distance running? I’m not an outdoor runner/racer. I have flat feet and tried the pair in the store but I wasn’t sure if they’re good for treadmill running.
@@simplymiya3820 Sorry, I'm probably not the best person to ask as I don't have a treadmill nor flat feet but hopefully someone out there is better placed to answer your question.
I'm still racing in my v1 green ones, 500 miles, look bad but feel great.
Really? Still feel good? That’s awesome!
@@junglisttt, I've got two pairs off the v1's my other ones have under 100 miles. When I do a parkrun, bad weather days I choose the old ones and if I'm trying for a pb, put on new ones. My times are always very close and bounce feels same. Greens are like my lucky pants.
@@jamesroberts2147 Hahah lucky pants, love it! Ok that is great to hear since I have a pair of v1s with 75 miles and one with zero. Bought them both on sale. Some people say the foam deteriorate over time anyway even if not used but your experience suggest otherwise 👍
@@junglistttThere’s many ways someone could react to his comment: try to say he’s a liar because 500 miles is too many, try to discredit him, or even perhaps shame him for not just buying a new pair, but instead you say that’s awesome.
I think that my friend, is awesome.
and I agree, that is crazy longevity out of vaporflys. You must have very excellent running form.
I have a pair of vaporfly 2s and I absolutely love them.
@@soul-gt7dl Hahaha!! Yeah some people have angelic running form. My vape 2s are quite beat up after 200 miles. If you stay away from gravel, they will last longer. I ran on some gravel used for the icey roads last winter and on that one run i just tore them up! Still usable but they look chewed up on the outsole after that for sure.
Thanks Edd, really appreciate this review. Picked up a pair myself and with 60k in them, good to know I'm on the count with them and need to use them purposefully from here. Top stuff
Yeah I would recommended using them for key workouts and races.
Nice!🎉
Thanks for the visit
On Cloud Eco 3 write on the shoe box - 4 marathons and lots of memories .. So made to last 170km.
Blimey.
Upon trying them on my foot, I could tell right away that it’s just lacking in a lot of ways.. going backwards. They had the original vaporfly nearly perfect. If they can just mimic that original vaporfly but with added stability (not as narrow in the midfoot), that would be the perfect shoe. I Started feeling like I was the only one who noticed that these aren’t great. I’m glad to see an honest review about these.
They have improved considerably at 50 miles
Commenting here again cause i feel my Adios Pro 3 has really "come into it" after just 20km. I can hold a steady pace and feel it pushing me without having any muscle aches. Ironically, I don't know why my legs have more aches when using a super cushioned shoe like the infinity react 2. Feels like my legs prefer a harder feel these days.
The Adios pro 3 ain’t the most soft but it’s got that response and resilience.
I haven’t got the V3 but my V1’s are at 100 miles. Now are they as good as they were? I’m not sure but I have a new second pair which I may use this year. But I have the Metaspeed sky at 63 miles and the Adios pro 2 which got to 420 miles before I retired them. Also the Sen 8 at 250 miles. Now I would still choose the Vaporfly above all of them even at 100 miles old. The pro 2 was a good long run training shoe but not that fast and Metaspeed is fast but destroys my feet at any distance, at a push a half marathon but it’s too firm for anything more. The Vaporfly hits that sweet spot of being fast but comfortable enough for a marathon which the others don’t have.
I used to buy only Nike running shoes but things are changed. My latest Nike shoe with full zoomx midsole is streakfly and even though my wear pattern usually around midfoot-forefoot area zoomx foam started to break apart from heel area which doesn't make sense to me at all. At 50k it looked like a tiny cut, at 75k most of the medial side of the midsole was gone.
One of my friends got the Vaporfly 3 as soon as it hit the market and his problems with midsole wear started after 100K and it became unusuable right around 130 to 140.
I don't have high hopes for Nike at the moment.
Same here
I REALLY enjoy the VF3 for hot summer long runs as it's the lightest and most breathable shoe in my entire rotation. I don't use it for races at all as I have better options there.
What do you use to race?
@@potatofusion6902 currently, the Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro for up to half marathons, the Puma Fast-R for marathons, and as of now, I plan on using the NB SC Trainer v2 for next spring's 50 mile ultra. Yes, it's a bit heavier, but over 50 miles I'll gladly sacrifice an ounce or two in exchange for additional cushioning and plushness.
Curious as to how others are better for you if they are heavier and less breathable ?
@@TimGrose I REALLY love the rocker on the Wave Rebellion Pro and it's a better race day option for me up to the half marathon as it promotes an overall better racing experience. I'll utilize slightly heavier but better cushioned shoes such as the Prime X Strung for longer distances during marathon training. Other than that, I just enjoy having about 8 to 12 shoes in my stable at all times for varying temperatures, distances and paces.
The VF is perhaps one of the better breathable shoes. But none of the super racers are that bulky really
Disagree about the ZoomX foam degrading. I have honestly felt no difference in my vaporflys up to around 700km. Above that I noticed it going off. In fact I set my 10k PB in a shoe that had 700km on it. Also had no problems with wear on the sole - even after using them off road on hard packed trails. V1 is still my favourite version of the shoe though.
Im interested in some EdBud Alterations. Maybe you can spice this one up like the Invincible?
That’s not a bad shout.
Nice! quick quick very quick question: How do you clean or wash carbon shoes? (saucony endorphin elite) will It affect the shoe? Thanks!
Baby wipes. The ultimate cleaning running shoes. Unless they are really dirty.
@@EDDBUD Thanks!
I'm not tall (5'11"), but I am thin (167 lb), and I don't get much wear on my running shoes, either. Apart from the Nike Invincible 1 where the tread has worn bare on the lateral sides of both heels.
Having now run a marathon in these, i've actually found that the outsoles damage/scuff quite easily. Which surprised me for such a pricey shoe.
Yeah the foam rubber outsole isn’t that durable
I've got a brand new pair sitting in my cupboard. Still got a new pair of V2s I'm using. In truth, I'd be totally happy if they just kept the V1...
The upper on the v1 was much more fitting than any of the others.
@@EDDBUD I prefer the upper material on the v1 to the 2 or 3. V1 is still the GOAT of not just Nike but all super shoes. I wish they'd re-release them.
I really wish Nike would make the Vaporfly the way it was in the first version. I can't get used to this third version. Midsole is too stiff and the higher stack height makes my legs fatigue easy. Version 2 was good also, but VF1 was definitely the G.O.A.T. 🐐 Nike seems to be going downhill with their Vaporfly line.
Wow. You just need weird feet, a runner’s knot, specialist socks, new laces, and be prepared to pay £2.35 per enjoyable mile until the Zoom X dies on its arse. Where do I sign? I’ll have two pairs.
Do you think it could be moisture from wet runs which speeds up the loss of pop? If so I won't be wearing them on my walk back from The Kings Avenue 🌧
At least the sole wasn’t hanging off my best Gucci.
I'm still in the first version and have had them 2 years and still have some good mileage to go with them. Ran London straight out of the box and saved my legs. I've recently started using the Adidas Pro 2's and are a lovely shoe but not stable. I twisted my foot in them badly on a fast corner. When I have to change again I'll have to have a think about it as there seems to be as good if not better shoes there now.
They stabilised the Adios pro in the v3. But lots of people didn’t want it! The v3 Vaporfly is an odd one. Different but not really much of an improvement.
@@EDDBUD Nike are strange anyway Edd, they often fix what's not broken or discontinue a good shoe like the pegasus turbo. Probably to do with marketing because people will still buy their over priced mediocre shoes.
Have to say the VF2 wasn’t for me. After 50 miles I just didn’t get on with it. As such I’ll avoid the VF3. No doubting the popularity of VF in general though. See many at every race.
I just can say Come On, Come On, Coomeee Oooonnn!! Lex Hives!!
The new album appears to be very direct with lots of energy.
My Vaporfly V2 just lost its magic at 100 mile.. Still a great shoe.
Got the Nimbus 25! Great shoe! 🎉
Good choice!
Hey Edd, how d’you think the VF compares with the endorphin elite?
Not tried the elite. By the sounds of it it’s closer to the nitro / flytefoam turbo stuff
Sent mine back and got the adidas pro 3
Many love the pro 3. It’s perhaps a more well rounded option.
I'm looking for a pair of running shoes I will be using for my first marathon on Nov. 5. But with so many options available, I'm truly confused what to pick. I can only afford to buy one supershoe that's why I'm having a hard time making the decision to chose..
It’s very much down to what you want. Squash and cushion or something more responsive. The fuelcell shoes are amongst the squashiest. But lack the propulsion. The Vaporfly and Adios pro 3 amongst the best but don’t discount the endo pro 3 or Asics
So should i get vaporlfys 2? Do you think that one wears down just as fast ? I’m in a rut.😞😞😞 i ahve a return policy, and can’t choose between the 3 or the 2. Pls help💔💔💔
The 2’s on discount are a good bet.
@@EDDBUD I’m getting the return and the shoes r sadly 250 on my size
If you still get lockdown on the VF3, why wouldn't you want more toe room space, especially for the marathon?
I don’t want more room. It’s way to spacious.
After 3 VF versions, I returned the VF next 3. The toe box with the bulging material (due to the hard section between the first eyelids) didn't work for me, and the tongue is just weird with those completely unneccessary "wings". I just don't get it, the flyknit upper of the Epic React was just a piece of art, but this one....? 7:16
The Vaporfly 4% flyknit was an amazing shoe. Which they would bring it back
Will Nike do a Vaporfly OG Retro Edition at some stage with upgraded rubber?
Now that would be a good seller!
Hi edd which supershoe offers the most stability?
The Puma deviate nitro elite 2 or perhaps even the Adios pro 3
I’m having a nightmare, I’ve ordered v3 in 9 and 9.5.
9.5 gives me more toe box room but there’s heel slippage unless I use all the loopholes.
9 fits like a glove a lot secure but my toes do fill the toe box
Would they get more loose with running?
Should I stick with 9? I’ve always been a UK9 with Nike
Either sock game to A level or switch up to a different model. The upper is weird on this one.
@@EDDBUD many thanks for such a quick reply, the 9 do feel tight, there’s definitely more room in the 9.5 - I think it’s getting a better sock
Hey guys I am a new runner started a week ago went from 1km max distance to 3.5km now in a run 😂
I picked up an invincible 3 but I found it too soft and a little wobbly like it has no lean support if the road isn’t even like on grass… I am looking for a more sturdy shoe would this shoe be better ?
This is still soft. Grab the Pegasus or Vomero 17. Bit more resilient and stable
@@EDDBUD thanks mate, appreciate the feedback! There are so many shoes out there it’s confusing haha
How much break-in do they need if you’re not used to carbon plated shoes? I have a half in 3 weeks and think of doing an 18k long run with both easy pace and race pace as a break in. What do you recommend?
Yes that’s about what you need. Most feel good out the box.
I found a good price on them half size dawn on what im wearing should i get them?
Might be ok a half down
@@EDDBUDtxn you!
Are these shoes recommended for beginners or Nike invincible 3 a better option?
The invincible is really squashy and not stable at all. Neither are good for a beginner. I say go down the Pegasus or Vomero route.
@@EDDBUD thank you
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I think the big issue that people are having with the heel rubber is probably lack of quality control by Nike like we've seen with other Nike shoes
Some of the recent Jordan’s have been a roulette spin.
Do you think they made the swoosh big enough...
Yeah maybe the whole shoe next time. 🤣👍🏼
Is there any difference between men V3 and women V3 in terms of size?
Not sure if this was a unisex release
I think the question to be asked is if you are trying to set a PB is this the shoe you are going to be using? Everything else is just so much toe jam in this discussion.
Not sure I’ve set any in this pair!
We are spoiled by the number of great shoes to choose from. Consider ourselves fortunate for that.
Yo!
Flight Foam Turbo also gets better with time.. Puma nitro ❓
Yeah I agree on the Asics foam. The Puma stuff is good too
Still very firm at 63 miles
All in all, concidering price, Vaporfly Next 2 , was my worst buy. No PBs in 5-21 K and useless for marathon for me. Never again. It was maybe because I should have bought half size down but I cant afford to buy the new one. It feels most like a half marathon shoe for me, but to unstable for marathon.
Any footage of the 100m run?
It’s at 100 miles of use
Rocket X2 it is then!
Love that Hoka.
Ouch!
Doesn’t quite cut it for me
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😂 go on Ed, The big boys at Nike are to busy making colossal profits rather than thinking about us minions. Maybe that's the Nike master plan, Make them out of polystyrene so they won't last and the user has to find more tokens for a new pair 😂
The foam isn’t actually that different to polystyrene!
🤔 £235ish We'll be running in big squishy open toe sandals next
Sounds ideal for slim feet with bunions. For a friend. 👀
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Is Edd Bud out of earth credits? 😂 I don’t think I’ve ever heard you say you used your own money.
Really? You should watch more of my videos. I have spent thousands on shoes.
@@EDDBUD I know. What I meant was that I’ve never actually heard you use the term money or cash it’s always earth credits.
It was just weird hearing you say money. I appreciate your reviews keep up the good work.
@@robruns262 Ahhh right on! Yes occasionally I remember it’s proper money. Some of these shoes are crazy money right now. Thanks for tuning in
To me a step back from vaporfly 3 from 2. It just doesn’t feel like it’s well thought out. It’s not a shoe that has all you need but nothing else. It’s an unfinished product. Definitely a lot of shoes I will pull off the shelf first for run. 😢
You under-rate these badly Edd. It's a far better shoe than you say. I agree with almost all your reviews but the VF3 and AF 2 are so much better than you say.
I don’t agree. The upper on this is a downgrade compared to the v1/2.
You're the only tester from 5 i follow to say this. The upper is roomier and lighter. That's good. The shoe is also more forgiving for most mere mortals and offers better protection on a long run. My friend is a 2-22 marathon runner and he rates the 3 better in every way than the 1 or 2. He also uses AF 2 as it has many advantages over the 1, especially the fact the 1 digs into your instep and is very uncomfortable because of that.
Adidas gets better and better.. The outsole will die before the midsole.. Nike goes down hill from day one.
The adidas outsoles even improve too
Sorry not in my experience. I had two pairs of Invincible v1 and both easily got to 500 miles. Adidas Adizero Adios Pro 2 we’re done by 400. Snapped rod and valleys in the sole underneath the rods.
Vaporfly 2 > 3, the 3 lost it's aggression
Yes seems less up for it now
Hello,yesterday i ran my first run,just 7km 5:15 and i love them my pink rockets🩷Fyi im 92kg✌️
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