You’re right but sadly it’s a lost cause. They are destroying themselves not realizing innocence can’t be protected forever. Honestly though by censoring these things they are just letting people live a lie. Maybe being confronted with some of the atrocities going on out there people might wake the hell up and realize we all need to change and take care of each other instead of being mindlessly distracted all day wasting precious time.
The problem is that you need to have moderators, who can handle this kind of stuff. They should profile them better before they hire them and prepare, educate and debrief them. Offer psychological help to give them tools to handle this type of job, the same way homicide detectives have.
“Dangerous freedom is more preferable then peaceful slavery” There will always be bad people on the internet, you’re an Orwellianist if you advocate for private invasion.
I’d like to try it. I’ve seen some of the worst gore videos out there which include adults, children, and even animals such as dogs and cats being butchered and tortured in the worst ways possible, and they’ve never phased me. But I can understand how others can be affected by such things
social media itself causes PTSD. It's toxic nonsense and a huge distraction. Gen Z and every generation after is a lost cause.Get rid of social media, what happened to the good old days where you actually go out and talk to people face to face. This virtual digital world has ruined society. Metaverse and whatever this AI, VR crap is, will only make things worse.
To be honest, this job NEEDS to do by some kind of AI. I understand that AI can be dangerous (for example in the film industry ect.) but this job NEED to be done by AI in the future.
My cousin is a CZcams moderator. She has some crazy stories and she’s completely desensitized to gore, violence, SA and so much more. She’s told me just the tip of the ice burg of the things she’s seen and just listening to that made me feel sick. She finally had to quit a couple years ago because she saw something so horrible, she described it as the most torturous and gruesome things she’s seen. She’s been in therapy and she’s doing better.
There is no such thing as desensitized to traumatic events. Your brain shuts down certain perceptions, reactions and function to allow you to cope without shock. It is disturbing.
Mark Zuckerberg should spend a day as a Facebook moderator and see how he feels about his previous statements downplaying the trauma that these moderators experience.
He would have to spend longer than a day doing this kind of thing. Seemed every few weeks something crazy would come up, and over time it just grew more overwhealming.
@serbian nationalist Oh yeah, I'd love to get paid to see people barbecue dogs alive, and people getting their heads cut off. It seems fair to work at a dead-end job where I see horrors that haunt my dreams; Every. Single. Fucking. Day. Meanwhile some creep who made a platform made off of profiting on people's information denies my claims of being traumatized.
Whether they use the same masks for other Informer episodes or not, it is almost the perfect mask for this specific episode, especially with the haunting melody in the background. I can't think of a much better way of understanding the gravity of, not just what this ex-moderator is describing in terms of his experiences, but also the gravity of what our world has become ... the kind of world that needs a small army of moderators to moderate traumatizing content on a social network like Facebook.
@@TheRok "Social network" seems like a euphemism at this point. The shape of our social media we have right now is poison for our psychological health. The frictionless and quick spreading of any content means that any strong emotional outburst will seep into the network, and if it creates an equally strong emotionally response spread like wildfire.
I was a content moderator for 2yrs and it's the worst job ever. I literally had PTSD and have ask for medical help assistance from my company but they didn't allow it. Salute to all content moderators out there.
As someone who has purposefully stumbled upon snuff videos, suicide videos and death videos, I can understand this guy’s frustrations. It really is traumatizing stuff and once you see it, you can’t unsee it. It sticks with you. You start questioning reality, whether there is a life after death, if hell is on Earth. I can’t imagine having to do this for 40 hours a week.
@@prankest7440actually AI would be perfect for this job. It can remove a majority of gore and pornography content. Then have someone to review it if they repost
The complexity of neural networks involved in A.I should only be used for extreme information processing at a quantum level. This job should be for no one and all forms social media should be shutdown.
When he said he thought "PTSD was just people being useless" it made me burst out laughing, but also struck a nerve. I grew with 2 alcoholic parents, and one of them had the same view. Needless to say talking to them(especially my mother that had that view)about anything was like talking to a brick wall.
@@AbdullahHashi-kw3qj Mother denies any wrong doing way more than my father. One day my therapist confronted her when I was 17 and my mom just said "ok well I'm not gonna stop what I'm doing" which was the closest form of accepting any wrong doing.
I share the story a psychologist told me, illegally, about one of her patient. "They" moved to a place where the rent was low as they had to do this type of job. The company offered the job and the place at the same time, guess why. All the people there worked for the same company and it was... the psychologist couldn't remember the name, she said, like facebook but it is Chinese... well, it was Tik Tok. At a certain point the people in the flat moved out so "they" remained alone for like 2 months. 2 months of watching disturbing content of tik tok all alone. The psychologist told me what they described, violence, rape, porn, suicide, kinks and pedophilia. After 2 months they got rescued by the psychiatric unity as they wanted to take their life. They got suicidal.
Well they took that job voluntarily and expected what they would deal with? Same with murder investigators, obviously they know what they are gping to work with and its their reaponsibility to consider if they can handle it. So simple
I normally don't correct people but it's "creepiest". Your comment just makes you sound foolish and I know you're trying to make a point. You should probably edit it.
We've all stumbled across something disturbing on the internet, and if it was disturbing enough it left a sick feeling in your stomach. I couldn't imagine having to feel that way 24/7 until eventually youre so mentally strained and scared that it doesn't effect you immediately, but instead builds up in your head for years and years. I have a new gained respect for these people who have to live life like this just so we dont have to stumble across something so disturbing.
I can't even imagine being a person who sees all the darkest sides of humanity every single day!!! My respect to these moderators for having such a stable psyche...
Imagine living in it, American prisons force you live among the darkest people in society. They put you in the worst environment, you come back traumatized and they ensure you have a criminal record. No wonder the majority of convicts reoffend. Like does it make sense to lock up a non-violent offender for selling weed so he can live among rapists, murderers, robbers, serial killers, etc? I've met tons of kids who went in on something petty like this and came out harden criminals.
@@YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech but for my perspective, it is better in USA Prison than my country. They're the worst of the worst in SEA region. Especially Thailand and Indonesia.
Even as a regular person who's surfing on the internet, I seen dozens of terrifying pictures and videos and just the idea that I would have to watch them for 8 hours a day, every day. Is just...
Mad respect to moderators or similar roles online. They’re like our psychological soldiers, shielding us from trauma while being on front lines against human depravity. I don’t understand why Facebook doesn’t just simply admit that there are evil people in the world who post about evil things, and then make it a call to action to fight against it by keeping the content off of the platform so that it remains a safe place, but then to also leverage the resources required to take action on what’s going on in the video.
I've watched these series for long and i feel like the team should cover their skin up to prevent allegations. I feel thankful they had the gut to come up and expose to us the dark world but i've always been afraid for their safety.
Right? I mean God for bid they have some equipment , camera or w.e..computer,stuff like that.. technology ! , made to scope out someone's skin and gets their DNA Scary
@@A_78939 Just noticed, thanks! But minimal to no "Visual Information/Clue" is always better than what is being filmed at the moment. Better safe than sorry.
I don't think any of the social media platforms automatically flag inappropriate content. It is either labeled that way by the creator at the time of publishing or it gets reported as inappropriate, explicit, etc.
That was the one that stood out to me the most... I'm immersed in community of mental health, self harm and suicide, and see violence and murder on T.V. but that one shocked me
People are sick. The hardest thing isn’t seeing the violence it’s realizing that there are thousands and thousands of people that are capable gruesome horrible acts and for many places in the world it’s common place.
The question is, does facebook alert the authorities if the moderators see content that could possibly relate to crimes though? Or they delete the evidence?..
@Abraham Velez I can't say the company name because i'm still working for them but let say it's a big gaming company where you can send messages, videos, audio messages and pictures
In every social platform, there are people who do the "mod" work and I'm one of them. I used to work as a moderator for facebook and most recently TikTok and trust me when I say what you see on TikTok, Facebook is 10-20% of what we see everyday, there are many disturbing contents people posting online. I once worked at Vietnam and Thailand for a couple of months and we have a choice of policy allow us to inform the police indirectly to check someone who is hurting themselves on the video. The job is terrifying and I had to quit after 3 years because it was affecting my mental health so badly
Right in the beginning... "I never really believed in PTSD. I thought it was people being useless." This is the reality for so many with PTSD. I've been through many traumatic experiences... yet one that wasn't the most traumatic (by and far) was the one that got me. If you have PTSD, it will never go away. You can improve, but if it is a situational trigger, you can never go into that situation again. So for anyone that doesn't believe in it. . . Then I hope you make it your entire life not believing in it. But know this... you are one bad experience away from knowing what it is.
I've seen so much traumatic stuff and I have insane PTSD but like you said it's that one thing that cascades everything.. I watched a guy walk up to a group of people in front of a drug house and explain to a crowd of people that he had $150 and that he needed an eight ball 🤦🏽 in that moment, a weird obscure dude we were all Leary of, came up behind him and hit him in the head with a crowbar, cracked his head open, his brains fell out, he was screaming for his mother, had a seizure and passed right there, the dude just bent down & rifled his pockets, found the money and walked up to the same drug dealer that the dude was talking to and bought the eight ball and turned around and looked at 12 or 13 people and just grunted and walked away 😶Sirens lit up the silence so fast! everybody standing there was stunned and I think about it every single day 😭 we were in a high crime area only blocks from the county hospital in the fire department.. an old lady in the window saw what happened and called 911 I was with my friend who only had one leg... He screamed a scream I will never forget, then he turned & started hobbling away quickly down the street, crying, he was traumatized and that was just as bad.. it was so heartbreaking and it really catapulted me into sobriety for a short period of time! Unfortunately it would be many years later before I got sober.. 11 years now ❤️
Once I heard that my sympathy went out the door. Still listened and found the speaker very intriguing but karma will always prove itself & never forget an address. Hopefully he was hit hard by his own ptsd experience, it’s the only way he can learn. How disgusting and dangerous his original way of thinking was. I truly deeply dislike ppl like that. Who are you to invalidate something just bc YOU don’t personally deal with it. Unreal. Probably shouldn’t say this but oh well if this haunts him forever. Willful ignorance should be punished.
Well this show normally use a different person to hide the speaker background so he may actually be Caucasian for all we know. Plus speaking habits and vocabulary will be changed as well. They may have altered what he actually said for security purposes
South Asian, most likely Indian (skin tone of hands & legs). Indians are generally well educated in English, especially if they are those who manage to reach the US & work for Facebook. Ofcourse he could also be the son of an indian family who left india for US.
I was thinking they hire someone to read a transcript of what the actual person said in the interview, and this person we see on screen is just for the benefit of the casual viewer
@@DuBstep115 Not really. AI could mitigate some moderation but at this current time I don't think we really have a way for AI to accurately moderate content on its own, and it could cause a whole load of issues. Human moderators are a necessary evil, and I think the controversy around the job can be lessened if people knew what it was and there was more transparency. Sites like Facebook should clearly state the types of content they will see, pay good amounts, and offer benefits like free mental healthcare by professionals. That way people are more aware of what the jobs entail.
@@ASAPJermz Not a logical fallacy here; I wasn't making any argument or reasoning, but pinpointing how ridiculous these puritan policies can sound when opposed to real evils. You are thus unknowingly using this expression.
@@ASAPJermz if "I missed a nipple or an ISIS flag" wakes you up in the middle of the night.... you were probably never cut out for the job to begin with.... yall want to see real evil come to the dark side of the internet where there is no moderator at all.... TOR... have fun
I got friends who work as moderators in twitch. They have 3-4 psychiatrists on-site to help out with the stuff they moderate and the amount of porn/gore/murders they see is just unbelievable.
Denying someone's mental health issue by saying ''it's a bit overdramatic'' is totally unacceptable. It's even more unacceptable when it's a whole group claiming that something isn't right and you just brush it off.
it also doesn't fit because if this stuff wasn't inherently terrible, then why are you censoring them? just let the masses see them. Or are your own content policies being overdramatic?
I didn’t believe in the dark side of Facebook until one time I had a person that I knew showing me what in his reels always appears to him (obviously he looks for this stuff) and the more you look into it the more devastating stuff will appear in your reels. People recording when they are about to kill someone in their car and then laugh and leave, people cutting animals legs and hear the animal screaming really loud and etc is really traumatizing
I don't know which is sadder, the content itself or the trauma these people went through to review it and remove it so others were not traumatized by it. I had a similar experience working call center for a company contracted from Airbnb. I noticed right away that it was affecting me on an emotional level and everyone else that worked there. I was fortunate I never had to take some really bad calls I had heard about from others. No one there seemed to be addressing the mental and emotional toll the job was having on people. Instead you were corrected on your response to it like it was you that was doing something wrong. We weren't getting paid much money for what we were being asked to deal with. We were not being forewarned thoroughly on what we may have to deal with. I think anyone running a business needs to step down periodically and do any job and every job they're asking their employees to do so that they truly understand.
I seen so many gore vids and other disturbing vids around my 18/17 years old and it didn’t face me of course it’s gruesome but I’m still able to live life without trauma, am I a psychopath ?
I saw a woman jump in front of a coming subway train in Toronto, Canada around 8pm, I still vividly remember it 18 years ago now, she was just about 20 feet in front of me, it traumatized me so much I couldn't sleep for a couple of months and I was suddenly scared of dark rooms or going into the basement, I would just turn on all the lights during the day and dreaded when nightfall came. I can't imagine how so much much worse this person had it.
I wanted to say yes but no you dont get showered with c*hild porn, murder, s*cide content that are really graphic everytime you go to your internet spaces. We gotta do this as a job, everytime we go there we have a high chance seeing fcked up things.
@@TheDexsword I would have thought that by now they would have programs to automatically eliminate the extremely crazy stuff like that but I guess it's much harder to do that than to program them for text moderating.
There's far more evil in the world than anybody can ever imagine. This is why you need to just take care of your loved ones and keep a tight circle of people around you
I think Zuck's a sociopath that REALLY would NOT care. It would take something he understands like lawsuits, most likely. Threaten the power or the purse.
When law enforcement officers have to review crime scene images or really disturbing crime videos (crimes against children for instance), they’re not allowed to do it for too long because it’s fucking traumatizing. Why can’t Facebook, a multibillion dollar company, limit the time individual employees spend looking at disturbing content?
Because a company goal will always be: Make more money. Contracting multiple people to do a job that one person alone can do, makes less money. You get the idea.
well you have actual trained veteran degenerates who actually ventures to deep web like me to find more cursed pictures and you'll basically learn mental block to the point where nothing can scare you. it happens where you become so detached to the reality from this so this is a warning trigger sign.
@@blengdiabloed7335 Dw it's fairly easy to come back just find some harrowing stuff on something you still have attachment to (eg dogs and say the gas chambers) and you should be able to reacclimate in due time (hopefully for the better but it is a gamble)
as someone that got through extreme graphic "content" for some years, that sh-t literally rott our brains. i couldn't ever imagine myself working as a moderator of social media, my mind wouldn't take it. when he said we lost hope I DEFINITELY FELT IT. it's a necessary work? yeah, but it's hard asf to have enough mental health to see stuff like this everyday so you can pay the bills.
I’ve read stories about the employees that work for FB and how they were sick from having to look at awful images day after day without ever really being told how awful it would be and not being provided any real therapy on how to deal with what they were seeing..God bless them for taking that job..someone has to do it💕
If Zuckerberg thinks it’s over dramatic then I’d like to see him do it 8 hours a day every day. I think that would be a great experiment. You up for it Mark?
People moderating for CZcams in India have to go through such horrors too. I've had a friend who had to quit his job and has still been suffering from PTSD
@@manez9691 A moderator is someone who moderates a site. So in the case of youtube and Facebook they look at reported posts and remove them if they go against their guidelines
'I didnt even believe in ptsd i thought it was just people being useless' that just goes to learn that we should always come with understanding and love, you never know whats round the corner
Wow. Praying for media moderators mental health 🙏🏻 that all they see doesn’t disturb their character & loving nature , that they don’t become unsensitized by seeing so much horrific things daily I’ve seen my share of disturbing things like most of us but one that I can’t forget is someone on Facebook send me video & it was a guy behind a dog….. I closed it immediately, I can’t describe how I felt in that moment … ESIT : 5:23 😔 😢he said after a while you become desensitized from what you see .. what I just prayed wouldn’t happen
This man's monologue is a very good testimony to how easily people can internalize trauma (physical or mental) without realizing the true long-term impact on health & wellness - evidence of our fragility as people. This is a great interview and he displays great wisdom and profound understanding in his discussion.
I went to school for social work, and we learned you can get PTSD not only from watching videos, but hearing OTHER people's story and trauma. It was something we are trained to be aware of because we can get trauma from hearing others stories if they are severe.
I watched a famous-ish video of a horrific act when I was in the 6th grade because my friends put it on and there's not a month of my life that's gone by where I haven't thought about it. I'm in my 20's now and I've seen and had plenty of traumatic things happen to me since then but that video just never goes away
@@cc-ci5dq He made a joke because the other guys said "shoot the link" as in kill it. Though in response to the other guy... The video was from a decade ago, I doubt he has the link or would like to revisit the video to find said link. Probably best to just not watch it.
@@kria9119 This. I had the same experience when I heard him say that. There's certain things in life that I simply cannot come to terms with, and some of those are snobbism and intellectuals who think their personal reality is universal, therefore everything that doesn't apply to them is irrelevant and futile.
I've seen a movie about content moderators. It was so messed up and I felt sorry about the agents. They had experienced depression and PTSD doing that. I had no idea that there's a job like this. A very toxic job to do.
This is important work, frankly, and I really hope stories like these encourage moderators to unionize, companies to provide good pay and real mental health support, and reasonable standards and expectations.
I deleted all my social media a year and a half ago, just stay on YT to share my musical content. Never been happier to do so. It's really nice to recover that feeling of being 'anonimous' again and not being constantly obsessed with other's people fake crap.
@@MattBrain9336 But that's the point. You always gonna have an 'excuse' to not delete your social media accounts. Trust me, the people who cares about you will eventually contact you even if you don't have FB or Instagram. Same way goes for you, when you truly care about someone you either call him/her or go straight and pay a visit, right? A lame FB post or message is not the same, just saying.
same. and yeah, definitely. Not documenting my experiences has allowed me to well, experience them on a much deeper level. As well as define my happiness for myself, without thousands of other lives to compare against. People are always so shocked, when I tell them I don't use social media except CZcams, as if I'm somehow dysfunctional. ironic, that many of them put the fun in dysfunction.
Agreed!!!! I have Facebook for one reason and one only and that’s to sell household items I no longer need. Otherwise I don’t even log in. I have CZcams and Instagram for a business/hobby/creative outlet. I don’t even scroll. And my mental health is so much better than it ever has been!
As a female court reporter in the US, I've worn waterproof makeup my whole career. Lawsuits are never fun, but even doing civil work, my job includes capturing some seriously sad and horrifying testimony word-for-word. Where everyone in the room is crying--witnesses, attorneys--but since I can't lift my hands from my machine, the tears just wash down my face. I try not to work on too many wrongful death cases in a row. *They haunt you.* Especially when they involve kids.
It's hard to believe your feelings if you're still working that job you must be enjoying it. The fact you get up and get ready go do job day after day for months, years says a lot about you. We know narcissist/ Sociopath fake emotions, actions & their words...
Love this quote! Life is such a dichotomy and yin and yang of all things. Prior to the military; I was unfazed and untainted and I've learned that all of the ugly experiences I've seen made me a deeper soul.
I cannot really watch the whole video so I’ve stopped at 2:48.. but it is so true and without conscious awareness (unless one puts in great effort) that we are DIGESTING in more ways than just eating food, swallowing it and that being a nutritive aspect of our lives. What you see stays with you as well as what you hear and touch. Precisely why I have chosen to not continue this video. My heart reaches in a thousand directions for all of the pain felt by others, and it is too much to bare at times. Recognizing that you may not be able to handle the extremism and sheer vastness of the ugly side of all of humanity, is one step in the direction of self awareness. Let’s start practicing care for ourselves.
I feel like part of this issue is people do not realize how truly messed up the world is, and how dirty each and everyone of us humans are. Innocence is one of the strongest illusions we all play with.
Even as a child i was not innocent, like i pulled a girl's hair just cause im envious. I would always make sure my chocolates in the refrigerator is for mine only, i won't share that many to others which is greedy of me.
I disagree, Believe me I’ve seen some of the most disgusting and traumatizing videos on social media and in real life however despite how horrible and disgusting these acts I’ve seen were. I still believe in good in people because I’ve seen plenty of selfless acts of humanity and kindness and innocence
Dude I once posted the comment "If I found a snake in my bathroom like that, I'd just burn the whole thing down" and apparently it traumatized at least two Facebook moderators, because I was denied my appeal and still got a thirty day ban.
I worked as a moderator for fb with this guy. Not sure who he is but I’m pretty sure we worked at the same location as there were only 2 locations in the US. Everything he is saying is true. Not only was the content traumatizing but it was an unsafe environment to work in. Towards the end of the project they hired armed security to watch the parking lot and buildings because people would show up harassing the workers asking “is this fb building” or trying to get in the building without a badge. We had something called wellness but you were in penalized for using more than 45 mins a week even though he seen someone die or a child being molested. We were desensitized to a lot of things being shown. There was a guy who died on the job from a heart attack and they called the ambulance and clocked him out and acted like nothing had happened. It wasn’t a good environment to be in emotionally. The pay was great and they pretty much gave away money so I think that’s why a lot of people stayed. We recently got paid our settlement money after waiting almost 2 years.
@@ownleywunlord9638 yup, these sicko people are everywhere now.. I see them all over youtube, cult people who act like Satanism is harmless and deny its background or what it really represents
I was never a content moderator but I have slipped upon the videos that fall through the cracks, and I’ve seen horrendous things people shouldn’t see. And it did affect me. I couldn’t imagine having a job that forces you to look at stuff like that everyday
Former content moderator here and while my team focused strictly on political content, we worked shoulder to shoulder with the guys who handled the "obsene" side of a certain social media corporation. The stuff people post is insane and it wasn't uncommon for us to come across the worst of the Internet on an hourly basis. I dont know what the corporate big wigs do with the content we flag for them, i can assume it gets sent to some government body that handles it from there, but damm. Seen some people actually break down and cry those first few weeks just due to the sheer inhumanity in some of the images we come across. Left that job a few years ago but some of this stuff just bakes into your mind forever man.
@@yakivpopavich well its that, but constantly non stop for hours and hours watching people being killed in gruesome manners. Youd get fucked up for doing that 8 hours a day 5 days a week or more for years.
As a previous FB content moderator, I have seen people watching kids getting raped and they fell down crying and screaming hysterically in shock to what they have seen, I myself was treating content that was mainly focused on suicide and self-harming and faced many content where I was totally frozen that I couldn't think straight to click on the correct decision based on what the policy is providing. When you're treating these contents you have to consider the details and the caption so you can make what it seems the right decision, therefore it will maintain your accuracy percentage, otherwise it will drop and the accuracy bonus will disappear from your salary. So you have to force yourself to look carefully at what you're treating no matter what's in it and beware of what's the right decision.
A few years ago I was apart of a fairly large corner of the internet completely dedicated to pictures and videos of self harm, i posted on there frequently at the time. I remember a few particularly gory accounts of people who would cut down to the bone or make large holes in their bodies where you could literally see their muscles shifting around, it probably really damaged me mentally (and physically obviously) to look at those things everyday on my own free will, I can’t imagine having to do that to make a living and the horrible effect that that has on the workers, I’m glad I don’t go on that side of the internet anymore.
Same issue that went on with this. It's being kept under wraps how badly these people are having to deal with all this stuff. Sure they go into the job thinking they can handle it and all that stuff but they don't realize until it's too late what they're actually doing to themselves. It's very sad and Facebook 100% knows exactly what they were doing to these people.
@@JohnCrichton probably man the problem is there is lack of jobs opening for other kind of jobs and these jobs seems to be always there so me and a lot people took it.
@@TheDexsword I wasn't questioning anybody that took the job? I was questioning Facebook for not being honest with people about the repercussions of seeing traumatic footage. Maybe you can handle it maybe someone else can't. That's not the point and they knew that when they started hiring people. That's why they're getting sued to holy hell.
No its not , nothing socking about this at all Its your real world and eliminating some of this is only ever covering up the truth , real truths which although hidden are very much in existence and where you as nations live in dream world thinking you are all madly in love with each other not even knowing 1/10 of this , with governments refusing to address or do anything at all or listen and leaving you open targets Wake up to the real world pal Its erosion of peoples speech internationally What is your problem with this other you cant deal with your world Its a world which you as human beings and leaders created on your very own Covering this up with no end of lies or pretending or removing some of what people are doing or saying is only making that situation worse Sooner or later you will come across this if not on the net but in real life whether you or anyone else likes this or not No point in pretending then as by that stage its too late This is what it often takes to shake the world and the very leaders whom you elect into reality and also exposes just how many lies and cover ups your very own leaders are up too Would you prefer not to know then suddenly come across situation thinking , " Oh nice person, met this person on facebook " Face book profile says, nicey , nicey , because other comments removed by community standards and then you have knify , knify in back because that is all they are doing Hiding it , concealing real ID, giving you the great pretender story and with a government that's applaud , applaud , vote as back in power yah , we are doing a splendid job When actually all they have done is make you a walking talking target That is what your animals and those in charge of these social platforms who make mega amounts of money have done with you thinking , "Ooooh the world is lovely jubilee , I'm so in love , I'm so in love , whoo hoo , hoo , boo, hoo , hoo " Those are my views on this Very sorry but , butter, but , but, but No !! You need to be exposed to some of this and your governments want a kick up the backside in fact in some cases they want shooting over what they have done with communications, IT in general with its implications inclusive business , with the rest of their hoity toity and garbage in these positions complete with pack of lies that you so , so believe May be then you will work out what a pile of rubbish you do have in controlling seats
@@KM41867 My grammar by the way is bad at present because I am both tired and highly annoyed and you coming back with that shitty comment instead of being straight hasnt made anything any better at all or even attempted to throw some light on what should be done and how possibly to even begin sorting these issues out Not that you could !! The typical type that never solves anything at all can only ever pick a holes in someone grammar not ever knowing anything or very little about any of this Gutless as usual !!
@@markharrington5826 My comments need not shed any light on anything whatsoever, though it did so on the poor grammar. And to assert that I couldn't contribute to the discussion possible solutions to the video's problem, simply because you're "tired and highly annoyed" and clearly an ignorant, says a lot about you, your arrogance, and quite possibly, your intellectual capacity. Furthermore, to highlight the glaring grammatical issues within your comment is not to equate with lacking the capacity to formulate my own argument. So, again, I'd advise dialing back on the arrogance. Oh, and "gutless", what an intriguing insult. Though really, it holds no validity any longer (if it ever did to begin with), in the fact that I've now formulated my own argument against you.
@@markharrington5826 Bro good job, you’re pretty understandable in English and all you gotta do is keep practicing. You will have it down in no time. 💯👍🏽
I’m thankful for people like him to stop stuff from reaching the eyes of viewers. I’m also more disgusted than ever that other humans would do unthinkable things to others. We are better than that logically but in real life we can revert back to throwing logic and compassion out the window…P.S. Mark Z needs to go down and do what these people do to truly see what goes on!
I’ve seen a lot of stuff, the most horrifying one was of a 5 yr old girl crying and asking for her dad as they led her into a room and lied her down on a piece of wood with a metal container underneath it, the room was filled with black bin liners. That was in Syria when things were fully chaotic, organ harvesting is big business.
Out of all the comments here, this one sickened me. I’m so sorry you saw that. And in a way, I feel so sad for the people who traded their humanity and committed those acts. The world is rife with tremendously evil systems and situations. My heart hurts for everyone involved.
YES!! Authorities should always be contacted to go after these evil pricks. I’m in connection with a law enforcement officer that goes after animal abusers
Can we talk about how great of a speaker this man is? He explained his daily work, experience, trauma with great eloquence, nuance, perspective and self-awareness. That’s a lot for someone to be able to do after suffering that kind of daily mental trauma.
@youreliving alie If that was the case, they would make it more clear I believe. "To protect the informants identify...." but I don't see this on the video.
Yeah I definitely noticed how eloquent and well spoken he is in this interview. Moreover, he's an active body language user, even his gestures participate in recalling such impactful experiences...
Discord is a much more dangerous place and I have seen first hand as an admin. There are - Images of different gore - Redrooms - Suicide videos from streams like YT that got taken down - IP loggers/phishing links - People doxing personal info of another (address, personal social media, full name, etc) - Every type of p*rn you could come up with, from hent*i to straight up physical abuse Thus this is why server rules are paramount to protecting users, otherwise your server becomes a minefield for traumatic imagery.
Huge shout out to all the moderators making the sacrifices we can't handle, I know I won't be able to understand you're a pain but thank you for everything (Edit: I have started a war)
I worked for Facebook a few years ago & I can confirm you see some sick content. The worst ones I remember that stick in my head vividly is seeing a woman & man beating a toddler & tossing him like a ball against the walls all while laughing. I also remember seeing a Cartel video of a man having his leg decapitated then using his same leg like a baseball bat beating the man to death with his own leg. 2 years after leaving the job I randomly got a check in the mail for $1,000 for a lawsuit they lost & had to pay every employee who previously worked for them to seek out a therapist.
@PS2Damon it requires you to watch the entire video because you have to tag the video with every violation it violates from the policy. For example, if such video violates 5 different policies, you have to tag it for all the violations & if you miss one of the violations, it could lower your percentage when your tasks get graded. Even if you tagged 4 of the violations but missed 1; you essentially got it all wrong. A low percentage can lead to losing your job.
@@cupofjoe1788 I think anything that makes you uncomfortable for long enough could be considered. You could probably even torture yourself not an expert but then again the brain isn't the most predictable thing is it? This proves that this man thought it was the contrary also and changed his mind in retrospect. Only one way to find out clearly.
yeah I agree with u remember when Vietnam war, US army using the sound of praying for the death and a lot of screaming and that make vietcong have a nightmare just because they hear that sound I think that called operation wandering soul I think
My friends father (and fitness coach) hung himself on facebook livestream... i remember seeing the video of him just hanging from his ceiling and people commenting... LIVE... and at this point my friend didn't even know... the internet can truly be a horrible place
No one should do this in 8 hour shifts. Facebook is truly evil. They need to hire thousands of people part time and restrict the amount of time someone can stay in this role.
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Next on Vice: The Tragedy of Having a Job.
Like where tf are you supposed to work then. Just at vice?
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Becoming a social media moderator is basically losing your faith in humanity just to protect people’s innocence.
Wow. Exactly
That definition really fits.
You’re right but sadly it’s a lost cause. They are destroying themselves not realizing innocence can’t be protected forever.
Honestly though by censoring these things they are just letting people live a lie. Maybe being confronted with some of the atrocities going on out there people might wake the hell up and realize we all need to change and take care of each other instead of being mindlessly distracted all day wasting precious time.
Hmm, sounds like a police officer’s life as well…
@@daddyjonesco1378 LOL surely you're not referring to American police
Unfortunately the job isn't to protect people. It's to protect Facebook.
The problem is that you need to have moderators, who can handle this kind of stuff. They should profile them better before they hire them and prepare, educate and debrief them. Offer psychological help to give them tools to handle this type of job, the same way homicide detectives have.
Well said
“Dangerous freedom is more preferable then peaceful slavery”
There will always be bad people on the internet, you’re an Orwellianist if you advocate for private invasion.
@@memezoffuckery3207 Yet the government fits exactly well into your "George Orwell" depiction.
@@memezoffuckery3207 that's not Orwellian
Content moderators are the jobs that everyone doesn't want to do, but the world needs. Mad respect to all the moderators out there.
I’d like to try it. I’ve seen some of the worst gore videos out there which include adults, children, and even animals such as dogs and cats being butchered and tortured in the worst ways possible, and they’ve never phased me. But I can understand how others can be affected by such things
@@twstdreality I've also been exposed to content like that too, good luck if you ever get a content moderation job.
social media itself causes PTSD. It's toxic nonsense and a huge distraction. Gen Z and every generation after is a lost cause.Get rid of social media, what happened to the good old days where you actually go out and talk to people face to face. This virtual digital world has ruined society. Metaverse and whatever this AI, VR crap is, will only make things worse.
To be honest, this job NEEDS to do by some kind of AI. I understand that AI can be dangerous (for example in the film industry ect.) but this job NEED to be done by AI in the future.
@@twstdrealitydoesn't phase you?
That speaks volumes as to the condition of your heart and soul.
So sad!!!
My cousin is a CZcams moderator. She has some crazy stories and she’s completely desensitized to gore, violence, SA and so much more. She’s told me just the tip of the ice burg of the things she’s seen and just listening to that made me feel sick. She finally had to quit a couple years ago because she saw something so horrible, she described it as the most torturous and gruesome things she’s seen. She’s been in therapy and she’s doing better.
How did she become a moderator
That is so scary and I wish her all the best. I hope that she is able to heal and become stronger despite all the horrors she witnessed
if she got desensitized to all that stuff but got traumatized by one video I cant even imagine what it was
Why should you be desensitized (psycological apathy)? In case she is not a good moderator, she better do something else.
There is no such thing as desensitized to traumatic events. Your brain shuts down certain perceptions, reactions and function to allow you to cope without shock. It is disturbing.
Mark Zuckerberg should spend a day as a Facebook moderator and see how he feels about his previous statements downplaying the trauma that these moderators experience.
Second this.
He would have to spend longer than a day doing this kind of thing. Seemed every few weeks something crazy would come up, and over time it just grew more overwhealming.
At this point that robot wouldn’t feel a thing
@serbian nationalist Oh yeah, I'd love to get paid to see people barbecue dogs alive, and people getting their heads cut off. It seems fair to work at a dead-end job where I see horrors that haunt my dreams; Every. Single. Fucking. Day. Meanwhile some creep who made a platform made off of profiting on people's information denies my claims of being traumatized.
@@wellnotme9354 That reptillian’s gonna reptillian
This is the single most terrifying way I’ve ever seen anybody stay anonymous
Just so you know, this isn't his fault. The masks are a part of the "Informer"-series.
@@jasonbraun127 I was not aware of this, just a victim of the algorithm 🙏🙏
Whether they use the same masks for other Informer episodes or not, it is almost the perfect mask for this specific episode, especially with the haunting melody in the background. I can't think of a much better way of understanding the gravity of, not just what this ex-moderator is describing in terms of his experiences, but also the gravity of what our world has become ... the kind of world that needs a small army of moderators to moderate traumatizing content on a social network like Facebook.
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@@TheRok "Social network" seems like a euphemism at this point.
The shape of our social media we have right now is poison for our psychological health.
The frictionless and quick spreading of any content means that any strong emotional outburst will seep into the network, and if it creates an equally strong emotionally response spread like wildfire.
I was a content moderator for 2yrs and it's the worst job ever. I literally had PTSD and have ask for medical help assistance from my company but they didn't allow it. Salute to all content moderators out there.
What app are you moderating?
I start next month but Just for a year or so😅 lets See how i deal with that
@@davidfgaga9685 what app are you moderating?
me too with Accenture. the pay is good just my mental isnt
@@davidfgaga9685have you gone insane yet?
It sounds like being a 911 operator for the entire internet community. I couldn't do it.
I could if I was on marijuana
Not even that lol. They're powerless to stop anything or do anything. They can only ban people from that site
Yep.
"We stay dirty so that the world can stay clean."
It has different meaning here but it still applies.
I don´t think he is "dirty", he isn´t doing anything bad, he just filters dirty things.
Stay clean ? You people are so naive . No one is innocent at all in this life.
@@emperoremyhriv4968 True but some are dirtier then others.
@@annihilator5494 I agree
"That's the mission..."
Just him saying “barbecuing dogs alive” is a sentence that will be burned into my brain forever… I can’t imagine actually seeing it.
And thats not even worst you can see.
@@JohnSmith-dg3rd dynamite on boy...
@@zaklaj woah
@@o0o0o0o0o0. Ehm, this comment section is not a competition who has seen more cruelty. We all know you guys are so damn tough.
That stuff is popular in areas of China, some of the people there believe that pain makes the meat taste better. Disgusting.
As someone who has purposefully stumbled upon snuff videos, suicide videos and death videos, I can understand this guy’s frustrations. It really is traumatizing stuff and once you see it, you can’t unsee it. It sticks with you. You start questioning reality, whether there is a life after death, if hell is on Earth. I can’t imagine having to do this for 40 hours a week.
Sad world man
Purposefully stumbled? How does that work
@@Wicked50he was probably curious
I've maybe watched 3 extreme videos and I wish I never watched them. I'm an older military guy and it's just not right
@@Wicked50 if you, like me, an HR pro, the hell-hole of human life and interest can take you to despicable things, especially during background check
THIS is the job that AI needs to take over, not the ones that people actually enjoy
I agree but that unfortunately won’t happen yet until it’s perfected enough
@@prankest7440actually AI would be perfect for this job. It can remove a majority of gore and pornography content. Then have someone to review it if they repost
The complexity of neural networks involved in A.I should only be used for extreme information processing at a quantum level. This job should be for no one and all forms social media should be shutdown.
@@Gamingswole121 Yeah in what utopian world is that ever to happen
jobs that people actually enjoy? lol
it's extremely sad that he has to protect his identity over this. Facebook is a disgusting company.
Zucky would like to know ur adress ;)
And yet idiots use his platform
@@arunkurian9367 Please,teach us some wisdom...
@@claudiug2232 ok
@@claudiug2232 he already knows his adress ;)
The fact that moderators, risking their mental health in perpetuity, get paid $15/hour to do this is utterly scandalous.
$15/hr is pretty good money in my area.
@@sdm1568 not with a disturbing job like this, it's underpaid
That's the average wage for being a soldier.
Reasonable....a little bit.
Are you sure they're not in the Philippines
When he said he thought "PTSD was just people being useless" it made me burst out laughing, but also struck a nerve. I grew with 2 alcoholic parents, and one of them had the same view. Needless to say talking to them(especially my mother that had that view)about anything was like talking to a brick wall.
Yeah it struck my nerve too
So your alcoholic parents caused your ptsd and then they deny it😮
@@AbdullahHashi-kw3qj Mother denies any wrong doing way more than my father. One day my therapist confronted her when I was 17 and my mom just said "ok well I'm not gonna stop what I'm doing" which was the closest form of accepting any wrong doing.
I share the story a psychologist told me, illegally, about one of her patient. "They" moved to a place where the rent was low as they had to do this type of job. The company offered the job and the place at the same time, guess why. All the people there worked for the same company and it was... the psychologist couldn't remember the name, she said, like facebook but it is Chinese... well, it was Tik Tok. At a certain point the people in the flat moved out so "they" remained alone for like 2 months. 2 months of watching disturbing content of tik tok all alone. The psychologist told me what they described, violence, rape, porn, suicide, kinks and pedophilia. After 2 months they got rescued by the psychiatric unity as they wanted to take their life. They got suicidal.
Oh god, I can't imagine...
oh my god :/
If facebook can do this imagine what TIKTOK would do. That job is suicide.
Well they took that job voluntarily and expected what they would deal with? Same with murder investigators, obviously they know what they are gping to work with and its their reaponsibility to consider if they can handle it. So simple
There is huge amount of disturbing content on tiktok, and tiktok doesn’t seem to care.
They really had to give him the creppyest mask ever
Still better than Zuckerberg's real face. And less creepy at that.
@@burningmatch09 doesn't count, it's a lizard pretending to be human
don't they all get this one
I normally don't correct people but it's "creepiest". Your comment just makes you sound foolish and I know you're trying to make a point. You should probably edit it.
@@scheezy sorry I don't have good grammar 😂 it's just something I'm not good at you can atleast understand it sook
Definitely never thought about how a social media moderator’s job is literally to sift through the most vile content on the internet
8 hours a day, five days a week
Yeah, can't have people telling the truth about what the government and corporations like Vice are doing to the population. That's bad.
You feeling sorry for the socialist censors?
poor little pedophiles..it just breaks my heart that these cowardly liars have it so tough.
As someone who loves to watch stuff like this. It would be the perfect job for me
As a former EMT, I can tell you for a fact that PTSD is 100% real.
We've all stumbled across something disturbing on the internet, and if it was disturbing enough it left a sick feeling in your stomach. I couldn't imagine having to feel that way 24/7 until eventually youre so mentally strained and scared that it doesn't effect you immediately, but instead builds up in your head for years and years.
I have a new gained respect for these people who have to live life like this just so we dont have to stumble across something so disturbing.
I can't even imagine being a person who sees all the darkest sides of humanity every single day!!!
My respect to these moderators for having such a stable psyche...
ik bro
Imagine living in it, American prisons force you live among the darkest people in society. They put you in the worst environment, you come back traumatized and they ensure you have a criminal record. No wonder the majority of convicts reoffend. Like does it make sense to lock up a non-violent offender for selling weed so he can live among rapists, murderers, robbers, serial killers, etc? I've met tons of kids who went in on something petty like this and came out harden criminals.
bro are u 30 yrs old
No respect for anyone at Facebook. If you haven't noticed, they're the bad guys.
@@YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech but for my perspective, it is better in USA Prison than my country. They're the worst of the worst in SEA region. Especially Thailand and Indonesia.
Even as a regular person who's surfing on the internet, I seen dozens of terrifying pictures and videos and just the idea that I would have to watch them for 8 hours a day, every day. Is just...
So you get to watch it without needing to go on some sort of chase to find it. Pretty cool
That's not how it works. Most of those 8 hours you receive reports from reps and dems reporting each other for nothing.
most of the images arent horrible lol
@@gustav275 oh kudos you then for not finding it horrible. Do you want a pat?
@@gustav275 until that falls on you
Mad respect to moderators or similar roles online. They’re like our psychological soldiers, shielding us from trauma while being on front lines against human depravity.
I don’t understand why Facebook doesn’t just simply admit that there are evil people in the world who post about evil things, and then make it a call to action to fight against it by keeping the content off of the platform so that it remains a safe place, but then to also leverage the resources required to take action on what’s going on in the video.
I've watched these series for long and i feel like the team should cover their skin up to prevent allegations. I feel thankful they had the gut to come up and expose to us the dark world but i've always been afraid for their safety.
Right? I mean God for bid they have some equipment , camera or w.e..computer,stuff like that.. technology ! , made to scope out someone's skin and gets their DNA Scary
It’s up to the individual. If you notice, the very dangerous ones wear all hoodies and long sleeves.
@@A_78939 Just noticed, thanks! But minimal to no "Visual Information/Clue" is always better than what is being filmed at the moment. Better safe than sorry.
I always thought Facebook automatically flagged inappropriate videos. This is very disturbing.
I don't think any of the social media platforms automatically flag inappropriate content.
It is either labeled that way by the creator at the time of publishing or it gets reported as inappropriate, explicit, etc.
@@liak.6778 i dono man i upload a gucci bag or anything with a brand and its almost instantly flagged even if i dont type the word
They do, but the algorithms don't always catch everything.
so is the guy in the interview the guy posting all these inappropriate videos?
Eveb YT cant delete all my comment , lel
even thinking about "a dog being barbecued alive" puts me in rage.
Like it should
That was the one that stood out to me the most... I'm immersed in community of mental health, self harm and suicide, and see violence and murder on T.V. but that one shocked me
100%
Maybe never go to China then..
@@syndrome9000 that video is famous af and it was a girl in the us she got killed after because of that
They should make, “the horrors of working in pharmacy”
It wouldn’t be messed up like this, but you do feel a similar helplessness.
If you’ve worked in a pharmacy and you can give us the info then contact them! I’ve wanted to know how it is being in a pharmacy
MUCH RESPECT TO THIS MAN AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SACRIFICING THEIR OWN MENTAL HEALTH TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT. LORD PLEASE TAKE THIS MANS PAIN AWAY.
We need to stop using toxic platforms and expose evil. Censoring it wont help at all.
People are sick. The hardest thing isn’t seeing the violence it’s realizing that there are thousands and thousands of people that are capable gruesome horrible acts and for many places in the world it’s common place.
Mostly Brazil/ south America
@Akhenaton belive me there is a hell. It is so hot there even the sun would scare it.
@@RO-in9qe You really think this, and not that it's in North America right under your nose? INTERESTING
@@electricpurple4112 why? Are you Chopping people up in your basement?
@@RO-in9qe what does that have to do with anything? The point is things like this happened everyday. The west isn’t an exception to things like this.
The question is, does facebook alert the authorities if the moderators see content that could possibly relate to crimes though? Or they delete the evidence?..
For real !!!? I was wondering the same fucking thing!! What if they rlly deleted sum piece of evidence of some murder ?! Who knows
They Just delete it from the public it's still somewhere on the servers
On my moderation job, we alert the authorities, I assume facebook would do also
Some poeple in my contry filmed as they beat a guy to death and they went to prison. Don't know who contacted the police though.
@Abraham Velez I can't say the company name because i'm still working for them but let say it's a big gaming company where you can send messages, videos, audio messages and pictures
In every social platform, there are people who do the "mod" work and I'm one of them. I used to work as a moderator for facebook and most recently TikTok and trust me when I say what you see on TikTok, Facebook is 10-20% of what we see everyday, there are many disturbing contents people posting online. I once worked at Vietnam and Thailand for a couple of months and we have a choice of policy allow us to inform the police indirectly to check someone who is hurting themselves on the video. The job is terrifying and I had to quit after 3 years because it was affecting my mental health so badly
Right in the beginning... "I never really believed in PTSD. I thought it was people being useless."
This is the reality for so many with PTSD.
I've been through many traumatic experiences... yet one that wasn't the most traumatic (by and far) was the one that got me.
If you have PTSD, it will never go away. You can improve, but if it is a situational trigger, you can never go into that situation again.
So for anyone that doesn't believe in it. . . Then I hope you make it your entire life not believing in it. But know this... you are one bad experience away from knowing what it is.
I've seen so much traumatic stuff and I have insane PTSD but like you said it's that one thing that cascades everything.. I watched a guy walk up to a group of people in front of a drug house and explain to a crowd of people that he had $150 and that he needed an eight ball 🤦🏽 in that moment, a weird obscure dude we were all Leary of, came up behind him and hit him in the head with a crowbar, cracked his head open, his brains fell out, he was screaming for his mother, had a seizure and passed right there, the dude just bent down & rifled his pockets, found the money and walked up to the same drug dealer that the dude was talking to and bought the eight ball and turned around and looked at 12 or 13 people and just grunted and walked away 😶Sirens lit up the silence so fast! everybody standing there was stunned and I think about it every single day 😭 we were in a high crime area only blocks from the county hospital in the fire department.. an old lady in the window saw what happened and called 911
I was with my friend who only had one leg... He screamed a scream I will never forget, then he turned & started hobbling away quickly down the street, crying, he was traumatized and that was just as bad.. it was so heartbreaking and it really catapulted me into sobriety for a short period of time! Unfortunately it would be many years later before I got sober.. 11 years now ❤️
@@clevergirl6041 What a horrible experience. I hope you’ve since been receiving the support that you need
PTSD is very serious and people that don’t believe in its existing I hope will stay this way.
right like ok glad you get it now i guess
Once I heard that my sympathy went out the door. Still listened and found the speaker very intriguing but karma will always prove itself & never forget an address. Hopefully he was hit hard by his own ptsd experience, it’s the only way he can learn. How disgusting and dangerous his original way of thinking was. I truly deeply dislike ppl like that. Who are you to invalidate something just bc YOU don’t personally deal with it. Unreal. Probably shouldn’t say this but oh well if this haunts him forever. Willful ignorance should be punished.
Listening to this guy talk makes me realize how stunted i am from unrestricted omegle, liveleak, bestgore, etc content when i was younger
a different age
@@123s453e56a6l ync, seegore, etc.. all keep the goods coming
Easy money
Don’t forget efukt
It's true, sometimes it feels like my reality is different from everybody else, what I've seen... it makes everyone's joy seem so distant.
He has an excellent vocabulary for explaining his experiences.
very well spoken indeed
Well this show normally use a different person to hide the speaker background so he may actually be Caucasian for all we know. Plus speaking habits and vocabulary will be changed as well. They may have altered what he actually said for security purposes
He will be identified by that
South Asian, most likely Indian (skin tone of hands & legs). Indians are generally well educated in English, especially if they are those who manage to reach the US & work for Facebook. Ofcourse he could also be the son of an indian family who left india for US.
I was thinking they hire someone to read a transcript of what the actual person said in the interview, and this person we see on screen is just for the benefit of the casual viewer
i always believed the moderation was done by bots. This is very eye opening
One of those “someone’s gotta do it” job. Real heroes of society.
Agree
No one has to do it tbh
@@DuBstep115 Not really. AI could mitigate some moderation but at this current time I don't think we really have a way for AI to accurately moderate content on its own, and it could cause a whole load of issues.
Human moderators are a necessary evil, and I think the controversy around the job can be lessened if people knew what it was and there was more transparency. Sites like Facebook should clearly state the types of content they will see, pay good amounts, and offer benefits like free mental healthcare by professionals.
That way people are more aware of what the jobs entail.
@@blasianking4827 No one has to moderate, it's a decision they have chosen but it's not necessary.
@@DuBstep115 There has to be moderation, it's just a matter of who. Currently, it doesn't look like we can just have AI moderation.
"I missed a nipple or an ISIS flag" Facebook's idiotic policy in one statement
cherry picking at its finest. it takes dedication to only hear that one line i guess
@@ethan20559 Facts, he's unknowingly spewing logical fallacies 😂🗣
@@ASAPJermz Not a logical fallacy here; I wasn't making any argument or reasoning, but pinpointing how ridiculous these puritan policies can sound when opposed to real evils. You are thus unknowingly using this expression.
@@cizia69 Okay guy, let's make statements then make more about how we originally never had any thoughts what so ever 🤣👌🏼
@@ASAPJermz if "I missed a nipple or an ISIS flag" wakes you up in the middle of the night.... you were probably never cut out for the job to begin with.... yall want to see real evil come to the dark side of the internet where there is no moderator at all.... TOR... have fun
This series is some of the most eye opening news I’ve ever seen. Please keep it up.
I got friends who work as moderators in twitch. They have 3-4 psychiatrists on-site to help out with the stuff they moderate and the amount of porn/gore/murders they see is just unbelievable.
Vice: "How many times are you going to invert the colors?"
Editor: "Yes"
Just their style of editing. I personally liked the timing between them.
@@super_1036 Me too!
I love cheesesticks
@@super_1036 Me too!
it's traumatizing
Denying someone's mental health issue by saying ''it's a bit overdramatic'' is totally unacceptable. It's even more unacceptable when it's a whole group claiming that something isn't right and you just brush it off.
it also doesn't fit because if this stuff wasn't inherently terrible, then why are you censoring them? just let the masses see them. Or are your own content policies being overdramatic?
Zuck is not human i guess. He's too odd not able to witness how people affect them mentally.
Quit
Da hell
😂
YES, YES, YES, *YES*
@@israel1231 shut it demon
I didn’t believe in the dark side of Facebook until one time I had a person that I knew showing me what in his reels always appears to him (obviously he looks for this stuff) and the more you look into it the more devastating stuff will appear in your reels. People recording when they are about to kill someone in their car and then laugh and leave, people cutting animals legs and hear the animal screaming really loud and etc is really traumatizing
I don't know which is sadder, the content itself or the trauma these people went through to review it and remove it so others were not traumatized by it. I had a similar experience working call center for a company contracted from Airbnb. I noticed right away that it was affecting me on an emotional level and everyone else that worked there. I was fortunate I never had to take some really bad calls I had heard about from others. No one there seemed to be addressing the mental and emotional toll the job was having on people. Instead you were corrected on your response to it like it was you that was doing something wrong. We weren't getting paid much money for what we were being asked to deal with. We were not being forewarned thoroughly on what we may have to deal with. I think anyone running a business needs to step down periodically and do any job and every job they're asking their employees to do so that they truly understand.
I can't imagine the trauma that he's getting from all those traumatising videos, im so glad he voiced it out for us to know about this job
It’s definitely made my alcoholism a lot worse and I’ve contemplated certain things. I don’t recommend this job to anyone.
I seen so many gore vids and other disturbing vids around my 18/17 years old and it didn’t face me of course it’s gruesome but I’m still able to live life without trauma, am I a psychopath ?
@@512foe nah man you're just desensitised. Stop watching that crap.
I saw a woman jump in front of a coming subway train in Toronto, Canada around 8pm, I still vividly remember it 18 years ago now, she was just about 20 feet in front of me, it traumatized me so much I couldn't sleep for a couple of months and I was suddenly scared of dark rooms or going into the basement, I would just turn on all the lights during the day and dreaded when nightfall came. I can't imagine how so much much worse this person had it.
@@paintbynumbermonalisa4187 noice
Few seconds in and he basically explained the internet
I wanted to say yes but no you dont get showered with c*hild porn, murder, s*cide content that are really graphic everytime you go to your internet spaces.
We gotta do this as a job, everytime we go there we have a high chance seeing fcked up things.
@@TheDexsword I would have thought that by now they would have programs to automatically eliminate the extremely crazy stuff like that but I guess it's much harder to do that than to program them for text moderating.
@@TheDexsword Mainstream social media is highly moderated. Try going even slightly astray and stuff like this becomes common place.
@@TheDexsword links?
@@powertothesheeple5422 Well they do but the system need to be keep trained, and me and for a lot of people those are our jobs
There's far more evil in the world than anybody can ever imagine. This is why you need to just take care of your loved ones and keep a tight circle of people around you
I think Zuck's a sociopath that REALLY would NOT care. It would take something he understands like lawsuits, most likely. Threaten the power or the purse.
When law enforcement officers have to review crime scene images or really disturbing crime videos (crimes against children for instance), they’re not allowed to do it for too long because it’s fucking traumatizing. Why can’t Facebook, a multibillion dollar company, limit the time individual employees spend looking at disturbing content?
Because a company goal will always be: Make more money. Contracting multiple people to do a job that one person alone can do, makes less money. You get the idea.
well you have actual trained veteran degenerates who actually ventures to deep web like me to find more cursed pictures and you'll basically learn mental block to the point where nothing can scare you. it happens where you become so detached to the reality from this so this is a warning trigger sign.
@@blengdiabloed7335 Your emotions became like a staticky Tv signal, the old kind with the bunny ear antenna.
@@blengdiabloed7335 Dw it's fairly easy to come back just find some harrowing stuff on something you still have attachment to (eg dogs and say the gas chambers) and you should be able to reacclimate in due time (hopefully for the better but it is a gamble)
@@blengdiabloed7335 wow watch out guys we got an edgelord over here
this was a real eye opener, never thought about this.
Just a few days ago I was thinking of what youtube moderators have to see.. so much gore and porn
@UC-hdFzoR34Kkmzz-9KvqWLA proud of u, save the doggies
@@smokinpot Dude, porn is probably the least horrible thing they watch, based on what this guy said...
@@iwantlee9510 I know I don’t care about porn and stuff like that but I couldn’t sit there all day and watch gore
Yeah but it don’t change anything. The more you know the more you regret knowing
as someone that got through extreme graphic "content" for some years, that sh-t literally rott our brains. i couldn't ever imagine myself working as a moderator of social media, my mind wouldn't take it.
when he said we lost hope I DEFINITELY FELT IT.
it's a necessary work? yeah, but it's hard asf to have enough mental health to see stuff like this everyday so you can pay the bills.
I’ve read stories about the employees that work for FB and how they were sick from having to look at awful images day after day without ever really being told how awful it would be and not being provided any real therapy on how to deal with what they were seeing..God bless them for taking that job..someone has to do it💕
If Zuckerberg thinks it’s over dramatic then I’d like to see him do it 8 hours a day every day. I think that would be a great experiment. You up for it Mark?
Most CEO's are borderline sociopaths. They have to be.
@@teinkjr agreed
I think he would get thru pretty easily
@@tesmat1243 haha true
Thank you my fav pokémon
People moderating for CZcams in India have to go through such horrors too. I've had a friend who had to quit his job and has still been suffering from PTSD
weak
Damn I feel bad for them
Well tell your friend that a couple people in a comment section called him a pussy, he'll probably understand.
What is moderator ? I don't understand can u explain?
@@manez9691 A moderator is someone who moderates a site. So in the case of youtube and Facebook they look at reported posts and remove them if they go against their guidelines
'I didnt even believe in ptsd i thought it was just people being useless' that just goes to learn that we should always come with understanding and love, you never know whats round the corner
Wow. Praying for media moderators mental health 🙏🏻 that all they see doesn’t disturb their character & loving nature , that they don’t become unsensitized by seeing so much horrific things daily
I’ve seen my share of disturbing things like most of us but one that I can’t forget is someone on Facebook send me video & it was a guy behind a dog….. I closed it immediately, I can’t describe how I felt in that moment …
ESIT : 5:23 😔 😢he said after a while you become desensitized from what you see .. what I just prayed wouldn’t happen
This man's monologue is a very good testimony to how easily people can internalize trauma (physical or mental) without realizing the true long-term impact on health & wellness - evidence of our fragility as people. This is a great interview and he displays great wisdom and profound understanding in his discussion.
pour guy I hope he finds some way to recover and get some relief some how from being a face book moderator
I completely agree. You said this really well and I do hope that he is recovering 🙏🏾 this is quite scary
Hahahahaha stop it right now
Completely agree - I love your phrasing of your thoughts as well!
@@herdrugby11 totally with you!! DON’T WATCH ANYTHING EVER AGAIN PEOPLE! If Facebook is that bad, then watch CZcams, oh wait a minute… 🤣
I went to school for social work, and we learned you can get PTSD not only from watching videos, but hearing OTHER people's story and trauma. It was something we are trained to be aware of because we can get trauma from hearing others stories if they are severe.
I watched a famous-ish video of a horrific act when I was in the 6th grade because my friends put it on and there's not a month of my life that's gone by where I haven't thought about it. I'm in my 20's now and I've seen and had plenty of traumatic things happen to me since then but that video just never goes away
@@lyledeporiss5937 shoot the link
@@ItsNerkEm Wouldn't do much it's just data
@@lyledeporiss5937 what lmao
@@cc-ci5dq He made a joke because the other guys said "shoot the link" as in kill it.
Though in response to the other guy... The video was from a decade ago, I doubt he has the link or would like to revisit the video to find said link. Probably best to just not watch it.
I had heard the term moderator before, but I had no idea what the job really entailed. What an eye-opening interview. That is not a job I would want.
Now, I'm thinking that this is one of the main considered points as to why Facebook had to alter human employees to AIs.
it’s strange how some people cannot empathize until they’re put in the same position
Who would want to work for FB...they're the bastion of politically correct censorship of free-speech
I know right
I find it a bit harder to feel for him after hearing his opinion on PTSD prior to working for Facebook. Entitled attitude and clearly oblivious
@@kria9119 This. I had the same experience when I heard him say that. There's certain things in life that I simply cannot come to terms with, and some of those are snobbism and intellectuals who think their personal reality is universal, therefore everything that doesn't apply to them is irrelevant and futile.
@@livequality4578 FB is a conglomerate of fake news and alt-right boomers. We have a very different idea of what that website is right now.
4chan users: 'You guys are getting paid?"
Unironically something that crossed my mind as well
Someone gets it
This
kek this
Right? Like dude, I LOOK for this stuff.
I've seen a movie about content moderators. It was so messed up and I felt sorry about the agents. They had experienced depression and PTSD doing that. I had no idea that there's a job like this. A very toxic job to do.
This is important work, frankly, and I really hope stories like these encourage moderators to unionize, companies to provide good pay and real mental health support, and reasonable standards and expectations.
I deleted all my social media a year and a half ago, just stay on YT to share my musical content. Never been happier to do so. It's really nice to recover that feeling of being 'anonimous' again and not being constantly obsessed with other's people fake crap.
@@MattBrain9336 But that's the point. You always gonna have an 'excuse' to not delete your social media accounts. Trust me, the people who cares about you will eventually contact you even if you don't have FB or Instagram. Same way goes for you, when you truly care about someone you either call him/her or go straight and pay a visit, right? A lame FB post or message is not the same, just saying.
Same brother I am in a better place I live in the real world now.
same. and yeah, definitely. Not documenting my experiences has allowed me to well, experience them on a much deeper level. As well as define my happiness for myself, without thousands of other lives to compare against. People are always so shocked, when I tell them I don't use social media except CZcams, as if I'm somehow dysfunctional. ironic, that many of them put the fun in dysfunction.
Agreed!!!! I have Facebook for one reason and one only and that’s to sell household items I no longer need. Otherwise I don’t even log in. I have CZcams and Instagram for a business/hobby/creative outlet. I don’t even scroll. And my mental health is so much better than it ever has been!
CZcams IS social media.
As a female court reporter in the US, I've worn waterproof makeup my whole career. Lawsuits are never fun, but even doing civil work, my job includes capturing some seriously sad and horrifying testimony word-for-word. Where everyone in the room is crying--witnesses, attorneys--but since I can't lift my hands from my machine, the tears just wash down my face. I try not to work on too many wrongful death cases in a row. *They haunt you.* Especially when they involve kids.
Jesus.. That's gotta be brutal.. I could never do it..
Just damn.. I just never thought about it. I’m sorry
my god. i do feel though that your work is just so important, and demands a powerful heart. i hope at the very least this helps.
It's hard to believe your feelings if you're still working that job you must be enjoying it. The fact you get up and get ready go do job day after day for months, years says a lot about you.
We know narcissist/ Sociopath fake emotions, actions & their words...
*hugs*
Thank you for taking those horrible things down so others don’t have to see them. I am so sorry for your suffering.
I never even thought about this until now, what yall must see. Thank you for doing your job to keep us all safe.
I’m honestly scarred just hearing that they “barbecue dogs”.
I can’t and don’t want to imagine having to see this on a daily basis
same! creepy as hell
Idk if it weird but it bothers me more than the murders
CHINA, nothing weird for them
You heard murder first but key in on dogs 👀😂
People barbecue animals daily.
“There are no beautiful surfaces without a terrible depth” - Friedrich Nietzsche
That was a reflection on his own life, and you adding it on here is a reflection of your life.
Fredick shitzsche
makes no sense lmao - Me, Myself, and I
I don't see what beauty exists that could justify murder, torture, rape etc. And that nihilist was a loser.
Love this quote!
Life is such a dichotomy and yin and yang of all things.
Prior to the military; I was unfazed and untainted and I've learned that all of the ugly experiences I've seen made me a deeper soul.
I cannot really watch the whole video so I’ve stopped at 2:48..
but it is so true and without conscious awareness (unless one puts in great effort) that we are DIGESTING in more ways than just eating food, swallowing it and that being a nutritive aspect of our lives.
What you see stays with you as well as what you hear and touch. Precisely why I have chosen to not continue this video. My heart reaches in a thousand directions for all of the pain felt by others, and it is too much to bare at times.
Recognizing that you may not be able to handle the extremism and sheer vastness of the ugly side of all of humanity, is one step in the direction of self awareness.
Let’s start practicing care for ourselves.
“We get dirty, and the world stays clean. That’s the mission.” -Cpt. Price
May God help the 4chan moderators, who don't even get paid for their work.
@@boncoderz1430 better for you to not know about it
@@ravenwaffle7574 how bad can it be, i think i can handle it
@@boncoderz1430 a forum site. but all kinds of content is free to upload and it is said that fbi track down users there.
You can bet the federal agents get paid quite well.
There's a reason they're called "Janitors"
I feel like part of this issue is people do not realize how truly messed up the world is, and how dirty each and everyone of us humans are. Innocence is one of the strongest illusions we all play with.
Exactly
Humans are mostly delusional by nature I'd say.
Even as a child i was not innocent, like i pulled a girl's hair just cause im envious. I would always make sure my chocolates in the refrigerator is for mine only, i won't share that many to others which is greedy of me.
We can thrive to improve the way we treat others.
I disagree, Believe me I’ve seen some of the most disgusting and traumatizing videos on social media and in real life however despite how horrible and disgusting these acts I’ve seen were. I still believe in good in people because I’ve seen plenty of selfless acts of humanity and kindness and innocence
This interview must have been the inspiration of the Filipino movie, Deleter.
Dude I once posted the comment "If I found a snake in my bathroom like that, I'd just burn the whole thing down" and apparently it traumatized at least two Facebook moderators, because I was denied my appeal and still got a thirty day ban.
I worked as a moderator for fb with this guy. Not sure who he is but I’m pretty sure we worked at the same location as there were only 2 locations in the US. Everything he is saying is true. Not only was the content traumatizing but it was an unsafe environment to work in. Towards the end of the project they hired armed security to watch the parking lot and buildings because people would show up harassing the workers asking “is this fb building” or trying to get in the building without a badge. We had something called wellness but you were in penalized for using more than 45 mins a week even though he seen someone die or a child being molested. We were desensitized to a lot of things being shown. There was a guy who died on the job from a heart attack and they called the ambulance and clocked him out and acted like nothing had happened. It wasn’t a good environment to be in emotionally. The pay was great and they pretty much gave away money so I think that’s why a lot of people stayed. We recently got paid our settlement money after waiting almost 2 years.
hope ur doing okay..
protecting the people by sacrificing yourself 🙏🙏🙏 i dont use facebook but i appreciate your work
Is it six figure job? I kinda want to try lol
@@casualtake1497 They make 44k a year.
@@imdagoat18 thats smaller than i expected
Having to work for Zuckerborg must suck.
How do you claim 666 and bash him. He's part of the same
oh hey razorfist
@@ownleywunlord9638 yup, these sicko people are everywhere now..
I see them all over youtube, cult people who act like Satanism is harmless and deny its background or what it really represents
Is the pay even that good
STYX STRIKES WITH RANDOM COMMENTS AGAIN!
I was never a content moderator but I have slipped upon the videos that fall through the cracks, and I’ve seen horrendous things people shouldn’t see. And it did affect me. I couldn’t imagine having a job that forces you to look at stuff like that everyday
Former content moderator here and while my team focused strictly on political content, we worked shoulder to shoulder with the guys who handled the "obsene" side of a certain social media corporation. The stuff people post is insane and it wasn't uncommon for us to come across the worst of the Internet on an hourly basis. I dont know what the corporate big wigs do with the content we flag for them, i can assume it gets sent to some government body that handles it from there, but damm. Seen some people actually break down and cry those first few weeks just due to the sheer inhumanity in some of the images we come across. Left that job a few years ago but some of this stuff just bakes into your mind forever man.
The censoring part you meant
Should be more than 7 minutes. Make a whole doc about this.
Yes!
He claims he has PTSD from seeing dicks and dead bodies on the internet, lmao.
@@yakivpopavich well its that, but constantly non stop for hours and hours watching people being killed in gruesome manners. Youd get fucked up for doing that 8 hours a day 5 days a week or more for years.
There is one called „the cleaners“. Truly shocking stuff that’s happens in the background
@@clicheguevara5282 I'm going to say, option B. for that one.
I have complained that I wish social media hired more moderators, this really makes me pause and think.
Guy is doing thankless work.
Thanks dude.
As a previous FB content moderator, I have seen people watching kids getting raped and they fell down crying and screaming hysterically in shock to what they have seen, I myself was treating content that was mainly focused on suicide and self-harming and faced many content where I was totally frozen that I couldn't think straight to click on the correct decision based on what the policy is providing.
When you're treating these contents you have to consider the details and the caption so you can make what it seems the right decision, therefore it will maintain your accuracy percentage, otherwise it will drop and the accuracy bonus will disappear from your salary.
So you have to force yourself to look carefully at what you're treating no matter what's in it and beware of what's the right decision.
Guarantee nobody likes you if youre the type asking for more moderation online
@@Atlasmauri Jesus Christ, that's fucked...
@@JazukaiX ditto mate, ditto
A few years ago I was apart of a fairly large corner of the internet completely dedicated to pictures and videos of self harm, i posted on there frequently at the time. I remember a few particularly gory accounts of people who would cut down to the bone or make large holes in their bodies where you could literally see their muscles shifting around, it probably really damaged me mentally (and physically obviously) to look at those things everyday on my own free will, I can’t imagine having to do that to make a living and the horrible effect that that has on the workers, I’m glad I don’t go on that side of the internet anymore.
Vice I crushing it man. I appreciate this news coverage in a world with so much distractive news, that has no value. Thank you
Now, if you can find a youtube person that does the same job
Same issue that went on with this. It's being kept under wraps how badly these people are having to deal with all this stuff. Sure they go into the job thinking they can handle it and all that stuff but they don't realize until it's too late what they're actually doing to themselves. It's very sad and Facebook 100% knows exactly what they were doing to these people.
Yh
@@JohnCrichton probably man the problem is there is lack of jobs opening for other kind of jobs and these jobs seems to be always there so me and a lot people took it.
@@TheDexsword I wasn't questioning anybody that took the job? I was questioning Facebook for not being honest with people about the repercussions of seeing traumatic footage. Maybe you can handle it maybe someone else can't. That's not the point and they knew that when they started hiring people. That's why they're getting sued to holy hell.
Man those early days of CZcams had all sorts of scary stuff
These people aren’t just filtering abuse, they’re living in it. This is horrific.
No its not , nothing socking about this at all Its your real world and eliminating some of this is only ever covering up the truth , real truths which although hidden are very much in existence and where you as nations live in dream world thinking you are all madly in love with each other not even knowing 1/10 of this , with governments refusing to address or do anything at all or listen and leaving you open targets
Wake up to the real world pal
Its erosion of peoples speech internationally
What is your problem with this other you cant deal with your world
Its a world which you as human beings and leaders created on your very own
Covering this up with no end of lies or pretending or removing some of what people are doing or saying is only making that situation worse
Sooner or later you will come across this if not on the net but in real life whether you or anyone else likes this or not
No point in pretending then as by that stage its too late
This is what it often takes to shake the world and the very leaders whom you elect into reality and also exposes just how many lies and cover ups your very own leaders are up too
Would you prefer not to know then suddenly come across situation thinking , " Oh nice person, met this person on facebook "
Face book profile says, nicey , nicey , because other comments removed by community standards and then you have knify , knify in back because that is all they are doing
Hiding it , concealing real ID, giving you the great pretender story and with a government that's applaud , applaud , vote as back in power yah , we are doing a splendid job
When actually all they have done is make you a walking talking target
That is what your animals and those in charge of these social platforms who make mega amounts of money have done with you thinking , "Ooooh the world is lovely jubilee , I'm so in love , I'm so in love , whoo hoo , hoo , boo, hoo , hoo "
Those are my views on this
Very sorry but , butter, but , but, but
No !! You need to be exposed to some of this and your governments want a kick up the backside in fact in some cases they want shooting over what they have done with communications, IT in general with its implications inclusive business , with the rest of their hoity toity and garbage in these positions complete with pack of lies that you so , so believe
May be then you will work out what a pile of rubbish you do have in controlling seats
@@markharrington5826 Might need to go back to school with this grammar.
@@KM41867 My grammar by the way is bad at present because I am both tired and highly annoyed and you coming back with that shitty comment instead of being straight hasnt made anything any better at all or even attempted to throw some light on what should be done and how possibly to even begin sorting these issues out Not that you could !!
The typical type that never solves anything at all can only ever pick a holes in someone grammar not ever knowing anything or very little about any of this
Gutless as usual !!
@@markharrington5826 My comments need not shed any light on anything whatsoever, though it did so on the poor grammar. And to assert that I couldn't contribute to the discussion possible solutions to the video's problem, simply because you're "tired and highly annoyed" and clearly an ignorant, says a lot about you, your arrogance, and quite possibly, your intellectual capacity.
Furthermore, to highlight the glaring grammatical issues within your comment is not to equate with lacking the capacity to formulate my own argument. So, again, I'd advise dialing back on the arrogance.
Oh, and "gutless", what an intriguing insult. Though really, it holds no validity any longer (if it ever did to begin with), in the fact that I've now formulated my own argument against you.
@@markharrington5826 Bro good job, you’re pretty understandable in English and all you gotta do is keep practicing. You will have it down in no time. 💯👍🏽
I’m thankful for people like him to stop stuff from reaching the eyes of viewers. I’m also more disgusted than ever that other humans would do unthinkable things to others. We are better than that logically but in real life we can revert back to throwing logic and compassion out the window…P.S. Mark Z needs to go down and do what these people do to truly see what goes on!
I’ve seen a lot of stuff, the most horrifying one was of a 5 yr old girl crying and asking for her dad as they led her into a room and lied her down on a piece of wood with a metal container underneath it, the room was filled with black bin liners. That was in Syria when things were fully chaotic, organ harvesting is big business.
Out of all the comments here, this one sickened me. I’m so sorry you saw that. And in a way, I feel so sad for the people who traded their humanity and committed those acts. The world is rife with tremendously evil systems and situations. My heart hurts for everyone involved.
@@abitofsh00sh Yeah, it was suuper depressing.. it’s a whole different level of darkness to the gruesome cartel murders.
@@MrJonathanainsworthwhy the hell would u watch that video tho lil bro
Why is that on Facebook
@@pinocchiosrevenge746cause some people have that sick, perverted fantasy to exhibit all of the twisted things they do to other people
two questions needing to be addressed:
1) what is a moderators range of pay
2) do they EVER contact authorities
44k a year
@@Megamibunny lmao that would mean ur in poverty in my country
That’s pretty good, I’d never do something that damaging to myself for that money tho
@KaPuGinoXD wait what country do u live in?!
YES!! Authorities should always be contacted to go after these evil pricks. I’m in connection with a law enforcement officer that goes after animal abusers
Can we talk about how great of a speaker this man is? He explained his daily work, experience, trauma with great eloquence, nuance, perspective and self-awareness. That’s a lot for someone to be able to do after suffering that kind of daily mental trauma.
@youreliving alie really?
@youreliving alie If that was the case, they would make it more clear I believe. "To protect the informants identify...." but I don't see this on the video.
Yeah I definitely noticed how eloquent and well spoken he is in this interview. Moreover, he's an active body language user, even his gestures participate in recalling such impactful experiences...
He isn't
It’s crazy because some of those sick videos still make it through
Easy to find on gore sites
meanwhile discords mods: HEY! you cant post memes in general chat !!!
true lol
in serious servers and stuff, there are very disturbing videos and stuff as well.
@@becauseiambatman2019 fr
Discord is a much more dangerous place and I have seen first hand as an admin.
There are
- Images of different gore
- Redrooms
- Suicide videos from streams like YT that got taken down
- IP loggers/phishing links
- People doxing personal info of another (address, personal social media, full name, etc)
- Every type of p*rn you could come up with, from hent*i to straight up physical abuse
Thus this is why server rules are paramount to protecting users, otherwise your server becomes a minefield for traumatic imagery.
@@amenra6042 fr bruh I got a invite from a neo nazi server I thought it was a troll server or smth but lil did I know
Huge shout out to all the moderators making the sacrifices we can't handle, I know I won't be able to understand you're a pain but thank you for everything
(Edit: I have started a war)
bow to crnsorship
I screenshot your pfp
@@iputapipebombintoyourmailb6210 good cause I screeenshotted it to
True
@@Sv63s i screenshotted your username, just want to know who im against when big brother goes 1984
I worked for Facebook a few years ago & I can confirm you see some sick content. The worst ones I remember that stick in my head vividly is seeing a woman & man beating a toddler & tossing him like a ball against the walls all while laughing. I also remember seeing a Cartel video of a man having his leg decapitated then using his same leg like a baseball bat beating the man to death with his own leg. 2 years after leaving the job I randomly got a check in the mail for $1,000 for a lawsuit they lost & had to pay every employee who previously worked for them to seek out a therapist.
Do they require you to watch the whole video? Why can't you just flag it as inappropriate the minute you see a woman with a knife next to a todler?
@PS2Damon it requires you to watch the entire video because you have to tag the video with every violation it violates from the policy. For example, if such video violates 5 different policies, you have to tag it for all the violations & if you miss one of the violations, it could lower your percentage when your tasks get graded. Even if you tagged 4 of the violations but missed 1; you essentially got it all wrong. A low percentage can lead to losing your job.
This story is truly crazy. I’ve never ever thought about this before?!
“Can’t get PTSD unless directly harmed” uh a lot of torture methods are just exposing someone to horrific images and sound.
not only that, you can get PTSD simply by witnessing something happening to. someone or helping them (cops and medics get ptsd too from what they see)
pigs squealing in the bg at this job would be borderline
What are you talking about images and sounds are not torture
@@cupofjoe1788 I think anything that makes you uncomfortable for long enough could be considered. You could probably even torture yourself not an expert but then again the brain isn't the most predictable thing is it? This proves that this man thought it was the contrary also and changed his mind in retrospect. Only one way to find out clearly.
yeah I agree with u remember when Vietnam war, US army using the sound of praying for the death and a lot of screaming and that make vietcong have a nightmare just because they hear that sound I think that called operation wandering soul I think
I think Zuckerberg needs to work a month as a content moderator at his own company.
I believe he’s aware of some of that extreme content.
man's a fvcking robot and acts emotionless asf. I don't think he'd be affected in any sort
@@mrjdavidt He is, and doesn’t care.
How about a lifetime as content moderator.
If those mods don't like the work simple write dimissions and search a new job....
My friends father (and fitness coach) hung himself on facebook livestream... i remember seeing the video of him just hanging from his ceiling and people commenting... LIVE... and at this point my friend didn't even know... the internet can truly be a horrible place
You can absolutely get PTSD from watching and even listening to traumatic events.
No one should do this in 8 hour shifts. Facebook is truly evil. They need to hire thousands of people part time and restrict the amount of time someone can stay in this role.
right
Yes it IS evil...i got rid of mine on NYE 2015...never been back. Dont even miss it. AT ALL.
the only power they will have in their lives is silencing and censoring. Sad really.
@@brettalexander220 I’m confused….isn’t everyone (the liberals) mad at Facebook for not censoring enough stuff like Twitter does
He doesn’t have to do it lmao