Spoon - Type One Interview: S2000 - Type R Rigid Collar Gusset Plate
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- www.gtchannel.com for more car content and videos. A complete overview of the newly-remodeled TYPE ONE tuning shop in Japan. Tatsuru Ichishima, the owner and founder of both TYPE ONE and SPOON Sports, provides a detailed description of current and former car projects. Bonus footage included!
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s2000 uhhhhhhhhhhhhh and type r uhhhhhhhh
LOLLLL the clip is gonna piss off ft-86 drivers...... but its so true!!!!
having raced both s2k and ft-86 driving them both against each other, the ft-86 feels quite strange (maybe electrical bits imbalances car) thus buying a previously owned s2k over a brand new ft-86
+har rae I don't own an ft86(Frs) but i think what he said was kinda bs. The frs being more expensive to achieve the same level of performance as the type r or s2000 doesn't make it any less of a sports car. I doubt it's that much more though. We shouldn't forget that the frs is 24k new while the s2000 was like 34k$ new.
+Nick Here are some examples: Even Civic Si and Type R have aluminium control arms, 86 does not. Even Civic Si / R have a basic oil-to-water oil cooler between engine block and oil filter, 86 does not (FA-powered WRX does and it can be retrofitted, but it seems a silly cost cutting decision on the 86).
+TassieLorenzo Like i said in my previous comments the frs was a cheaper car, 10k cheaper! The fact it doesn't have an oil cooler is not that silly. It's an Na with 200hp.
Based on this logic i could say the S2000 isn't a real sports car either. I can buy a 99 Sti type r from Japan for like 10k, which has a ridiculous amount of advantages over the S2000. It would cost a lot of money to get the same performance out of an S2k.
***** I am comparing to the na 200hp civic si. Si has the cooler, si has the alloy control arms.. fr-s seems to have cost cutting there. similar price or less than fr-s. agreed, s2000 is more expensive car than fr-s, d be more sophisticated.so shoul
+har rae +1. Got a ride in my mate's FRS 1.0...it is like an S2000 without Vtec. I love my S2000 so much. So reliable and rev-happy. Truly one of a kind sports car.
Ichishima-san is the man! I love how in the video he says the 86 is for R&D only, then I look on their website and guess what? They now make and sell parts for FRS/BRZ, but like he said they'll never be on par with the superb S2000, like the one sitting in my garage right now just waiting to not be stock anymore. 60 hour work weeks here i come!
But it's fun to drive and is a lot easier to control at it's limits than most cars, which just so happens to be it's purpose. I've driven both an s2000 and an FR-S, and the s2000 is a whole different monster. It's very precise with it's handling (especially an ap1, before they revised the suspension), and while it has a higher potential, it's very snappy once it's near its limits.
Another great product by Spoon. I wish we had great tuning shops like Spoon in the U.S. It's always a pain to import JDM parts.
I love going there, Spoon Sports work shop is so nice! I was there last year and the year before.
Ichishima-San... legend
I’ve had the Kouki RSX (06) for 7 years now, I’ve been tracking it since day 1 and it’s phenomenal then earlier this year I bought a 2004 AP2, I upgraded the suspension, rims, except the engine then I’ve been tracking it since then. It’s a night and day for me especially at the Buttonwillow. I’m excited to try it at the Streets and Chuck next year and see how she responds
these guys' mentality is alot lioke Koenigsegg from the interviews ive seen. They dont just engineer for the sake of engineering. They use technology to the fullest to bring the best out of their vehicles. inspiring stuff.
It looks like he was trying to emphasize that the 86 is does not have the Racing spirit like Honda Type-R's and the S2000. which is kind of valid since Toyota's vision in the 86 was to bring the fun back in driving.
That place is a slice of Heaven!
Bonus footage or bonus commercial, can't really figure it out
S2000 the sidechick I always wanted 😍
Actually it was developed in the 80s with Hondas racing tech and was patented - F1 uses computers to control valve actuation which is the next gen as it replaces having a camshaft/s at all - but the tech to have two sets of lift specs was a racing technology Honda pioneered through their racing engine programs in the 80s before computer controlled valves - also its the best combination of cam lift specs for cars that see both track and street duty - race only cars dont idle much - street cars do
We wanted toooooooooooo build a shop tooooooooooooooooooo support the S200000000000 and stuuuuuuuuuff.
Id love to work there, and learn as a student. Clean environment and beautiful cars.
This guy has the BEST pilot voice
just imagine what would happen if honda would work very close with this guy to develop a JDM sportscar that is reliable and is the right base to modify .... the scene would go crazy
I think we are all forgetting how much the s2000 cost at dealerships brand new? Brz is a good car with a good chasis, once the sti version comes out then compare the s2000 with the brz.
No but lighter weight wheels improve overall performance, so does an extra 50hp, lower/stiffer suspension, and upgraded brakes. Thats roughly what will be on the STi version.
hard talk for the 86 by the president !
good job GT channel, you guys are making cool vids lately
Who else got excited as fuck when the GT86 came in video with anticipation of Spoon announcing they going to start making parts for it? LOL
For the guy saying the fd2 is a 06 and insisting that mr spoon does not know what yr the car he built is. If you listen he says they built it from the ground up. Honda had already developed the j spec fd in 2002 so what spoon got was a racing chassis from honda witch are white and bare metal spoon had developed a fd2 for racing and raced the fd 3months before it even went on sale for a tskuba time attack look it up spoon always get honda while there being developed. They had a s2000 in 1998 and was already racing and modifying it a few months before it went on sale. Soshirio honda actually gave itchi san a s2000 for his bday. Before the car was sold he had the actual prototype look it up and watch the vids they get them sometimes while there still being developed. Honda allows them to test and race them. For info and r&d
uh, Soichiro died 1991...
ichishima-san is a legend
It's weird to see a spoon monoblock behind a toyota's wheel, but some spoon fan who own 86 might follow what ichisima san did. If he said it takes 3-4 times the time and money to make the car better or at least comparable to s2000 level, I think he should've done it because it will make his garage earn 3-4 times more money and use the money to R&D their s2000 and type r further more.
It's priced to go up against the Civic Si. It's not very fast but supposedly good fun to drive, same as the old AE86. Rumored turbo, supercharged, and even hybrid versions will bring high performance to the car. Most likely we'll see a turbo. I'm interested in a performance centered hybrid though. Could be like a Mclaren P1 but way cheaper, or a Honda CRZ but actually sporty.
Honda needs to seriously recruit Ichishima-san.
Geez. He just single handedly wrote off the gt86!
Actually they are, they are making a variety of parts for it.
when they said bonus footage i thought they were gonna start up atleast one and hoon around in the back lot, maybe do a little donut or atleast something :(
Awesome footage.
He mentioned that back in 98 when Spoon opened no one specialized in ITR's and S2000's but wasn't Mugen around before them?
+AR.416
MUGEN has been around since the early 70's.
+Pedro Gomes That's what I figured. Thanks for clarifying.
+PumPumCheezPizza69 Mugen actually built Spoon's first Civic racecar.
Do Mugen do servicing etc though?
Not anymore, they may have in the past. Mugen just offer aftermarket parts and have a couple racing programs in Japan Super Formula and the Isle of Man TT with electric bikes. Their facility is pretty private and hush-hush.
It doesnt suck. It's better than an MX-5. A used RX-8 or S2000 are really the only reasonably comparable options. Unless you wanna spend more money.
Except not really. It's not on par with a K20 but it's one of the better 2.0L NAs around. The BRZ/FRS cars are already within a second of most S2000 records on street tires at a few time events around the world. Give them some time to pump in R&D for the track, they are a better platform but I agree the engine isn't as good as what Honda can do.
How come they have a fd2 race car in 04 when the car came out in 07???
I'm glad I own an s2000!
robertjruiz354 great circuit and aggressive daily car. Lucky you🇯🇵👍🏼
All of them - vtec killers were developed to lighten the valvetrain mass and maintain consistent pressure on the circuits where they hardly spend any time idling in the pits - on a STREET car idle is important and the need for TWO lobe centers is important - Toda Ds developed by Erics Racing have even higher VTEC lobes than killers and still use a primary smaller lobe for street driving - thus giving you max power in vtec when racing and still being able to maintain idle at street lights Noob
Have you experienced Toda D's before any infor on them ?
he meant that most of the japanese car racing in the US is just accelerating in straight lines with civics and a sport filter.
Now I know im not the only guy that says,"uhhhhhhhhh" when I try to explain things. Lol
A Subaru rep said it will have 50 more hp Na for probably 8k more.... Which will definitely make it over 30k. Which is pretty stupid pricing wise. But hey at least that will be more of an even comparison. Don't get wrong I love the s2000 and i'll probably end up buying a laguna blue ap2 this year. Watching videos online against ap1 vs the brz. the ap1 wins barly. only because it's easier to drive the brz/frs. All I'm saying is keep an open mind. If the brz was priced 20k it'd be a better car....
fun in driving on the street is different from racing on tracks. both are fun. but Honda's get fun at the track. the 86 is fun on the street.
Have a feeling spoons start goin to be tuning the 86's
wait.. explain further why the 86/frs/brz sucks!! i am seriously considering buying it, and i wanna know everything about it first
It’s about time for a new s2000 no?
Gt channel REP!
It's a very good beginner car for drifting though imo.
Honda/Type one
Dude, like can you so totally make my S2K awesomer, oh wait, you did bro! Radd!
Did the 86 have Spoon brake calipers?
why cant honda make a boxer like engine set up?
Love it!
MOAR!,,,
This episode brought to you by rigid collar grease.
I dont see alot of Hondas in a Motorsport called Drift, The way I see it, The 86 is waiting for the private market to start making Aspirated tune set ups of their own, After warranty of course (Ive seen some private shops boosting BRZ regardless of warranty) The engine will soon arrive with unique problems like all engines, So please Stop being lazy and learn to tune, I do agree they could pull more juice from the D4S...
FD2R wasn't launched in 2004 yet! i know because i owned one!
This Guy is part Goat.............eeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhaa.........eeeeeeeeeehhhhhhha
LOL beat me to it. I couldn't even watch it all.
hahahaha im dying laughing how he speaks hahahah uhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeahahhhhh ehhhhhhhhhh
I don't think honda never tried!
and alson creating a fun sports cars like the dc2 ek9 nsx-r is very expensive!
if you doesn't know honda lost alot of money on the dc2 wich was compasated with the other integras
I wish too to get back to the roots! after working for honda for 3 years I saw a lot of differences! smoother cars less responsive still good but not enough to sale my old mb4!
Sounds like the guy has a stutter or something. That or hes just very calm and slow with talking lol. awesome cars though.
Celtic Wind Yeah well the guy is an engineering genuis.
Ahhh Honda Civic/Integra one make race, JG GT300/500 NHRA Sport Compact Series, IDRC drag racing series, Grand Am racing, BTCC, etc etc...VTEC has been used since 1988 in MANY championship winning race cars at various levels of competition - you just dont race so you arent familar with race cars
i didnt know that dude, im an s2k owner too.
i can sense a hate against the 86 from Mr. Ichishima lol
Hot Version song!!! Does anyone know the name of it??
Is that not just copper grease?
Hahahah!!! I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that!!
*brings in the Toyota 86* :D. "We will not be producing parts for this car" :( .
I live my Honda but I wish I had an 86 :p
I want that grease!!!
Threw hella shade at the 86 owners .... lol damn
Anyone else feel like he's saying way more stuff than what's being captioned?
Honduuuuuuuhhh.
at least in U.S., u still got something, here in Brazil, we got nothing, not even OEM honda's parts are cheap here, they treat Civic's here as luxurious cars, we don't even have S2000 here, what a lame...
Because boxer engines are weak, crack down the middle under high boost/high horsepower setup and have oiling issues. Tons of reasons why they wont and why others wont either - Subaru and Porsche are the only ones and Subaru motors are known for popping even on stock boost, let alone 500hp versions - Honda COULD make one - but why? Their inline motors make tons more power Subaru 2.5L boxer NA 165hp < S2000 2.0L Inline NA 247hp - a decade + later 2.0L NA boxer 200hp lol
ya sorry for typing a lot figured I'd toss in my two cents before I'm ridiculed .-.
The GT 86 needs an F20c
Please educate us yo!!!
@asdjfnljn3 True but he's still right, a real sport car has Handling and power, this "ToyoBaru" hasn't! Anyone can sit comfortably in a sports car, I'm 6'0", I'm not cumfy in this FRS/BRZ. In my S2K... decently seated! Let's wait for Subi to reveal the BRZ STI, then more would allow it to be called a sports car. Its a good car, but someone forgot to give it balls!
Either I just lost all respect for Spoon, or what Tatsuru Ichishima said was lost in Translation... The Toyota 86 is not a "Sportscar"?! Is he not familiar with the MX-5?
Good salesman 😂
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coz it dznt rpm high enough...
My gt86 neighbor : This n**gah bought a gt86, made it look shitty by putting on black front and rear bumpers, stood next to it to diss it..
He's comparing a decade old car to one thats barely a year old. Ptuning is gonna make him eat those words.
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Basically the FR-S is balls. Thats what I learned.......
japan fd civic had faster and Spoon is very close to Honda, so they colud get it faster
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2008 CR-Z? Lolz
the took a shit on the GT86 Lmao
Ive been into Hondas since 95 and racing them since 97 - owned 11 of them thus far and have competed in various sanctioned events - anyone with any racing experience would laugh at your comment that VTEC isnt used in racing - no need for google to laugh at your ignorance
The Price tells the full story,
Obviously u getting a sucky RWD for that price. ;'D
Hes the errrrrr japanese Obama errrrrr
And "straight line" racing is "rice" because...........
I use chopper grease sice 20 years its nothing special🤷♂️
he says ehhhh too much lol.
Yeah the s200 and the type r even tho the type r is front wheel drive it can still power round the track and the touge course in Japan 🚗💨😫😫🤕😈😈😈🐍🐍🐍😂🚗🚗🚗💨🚗🚗
nice one google pro.lol
Uhhh... Uhhhhhhhhhh Cool story bro uhhhh....