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Do we even count Extra Epic Yarn? Isn’t it more of a port than a remake? Yeah sure it’s the same campaign again but with new mechanics and power ups, but graphic wise it doesn’t change much compared to the original.
@@plazmeonsparks257 it still changed the graphics (even if a downgrade to most) and it added stuff like what you mentioned. Definitely a remake, although whether it's a good one is up for debate
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Extra Epic, Nightmare, Return Deluxe, Superstar Ultra Superstar ultra just felt like a necessary overhaul for a sorely flawed classic that didn’t leave much if anything out and single-handedly made the original obsolete and pointless to back to in the long run ON TOP OF redefining the entire series and it’s over all structure in the end Also “Please enter me” -Channel Kirby 2023
@@mi1key i assumed that it was not a joke because since it's hard to play that game in multiplayer nowadays i think people could easily forget that was a feature but you could be right
Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn seems to be the most 'forgotten' game lol. While remakes may not be the best compared to the original, but they did introduces new modes or music that the original did not featured (especially Kirby Super Star Ultra) and became the standard of future Kirby games beyond Kirby: Triple Deluxe. Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe is probably the best remake game HAL has made, featuring lots of contents such as Magolor Epilogue which is like the post-game mode telling the story of Magolor while having some relations with Team Kirby Clash Deluxe / Super Kirby Clash games and adding the 2 new abilities (Mecha and Sand) in the lor starcutter challenge stages
I know this is a video about remakes but were you able to play the 3DS “remaster” of Kirby’s Adventure? It’s FANTASTIC. Unfortunately it’s unavailable now since the shop is gone…
Return Deluxe is what really sticks out to me as the best and most perfect remake ultra is a great game that definitely fixed my biggest issues with the original, but some snags were still left intact like certain level designs and overly-easy bosses, while deluxe feels like it strikes the perfect balance between staying faithful to what the original did right while also not compromising literally any opportunity to improve. they even revamped the extra mode to make it actually challenging while still sticking to it's fundamentals
I think an Amazing mirror remake would be neat, since people would still be able to play the original on nso i think they could be encouraged to improve the game even more by adding modern movesets to the abilities, maybe some new abilities like in rtdldx and second phases to bosses. I don't think they could handle the online well though, maybe it should be released on the next console. Also i'd say that superstar ultra is indeed the best kirby remake because it's the only one that does not remove any freature from the original (nidl replaced all the minigames, even though i like the new ones more, and removed the rotation effect in butter building, while rtdldx removed scope shot so for these two there is still at least a little reason to go back to the originals, but i still prefer all these remakes to the originals overall)
So you think it could happen in the next console what happens if it doesn't and then Nintendo decides to put it on the Switch? But a Amazing Mirror remake would be awesome to see
@@connorj1165 i don't think it will be released on switch if they actually decide to remake it because rtdl dx is still too recent and i don't think they want to release too many remakes in a row, maybe we should wait the next anniversary and by that time i think the switch successor will be already been released for a few years since it's rumored to come out in late 2024
@@connorj1165 also they just released it on nso so it would be redundant (for this reason i'm starting to lose the hope for remakes of the zelda oracles games in the style of link's awakening)
@@GreatGonzalez I mean I don't know since we have to wait till 2027 for the next Kirby Anniversary which I'm still hoping to see something for Kirby Right Back At Ya like seriously they need to do something for it but who knows they might do another Kirby game remake on Switch who knows we'll see
@@connorj1165 if you think about it the last time they remade a kirby game before rtdl dx was ssu which came out in 2008, so 15 years before this (not counting extra epic yarn that is more of a port with new features than a remake). For this reason i don't think they will release another remake soon, and they could also do triple deluxe or robobot first. Also if they announce a kirby movie that has some cameos of characters right back at ya like escargoon it would be neat, but i think they would need to soft reboot it to attract new audience and they should include a more iconic villain than Nightmare, like magolor or the dark matter or elfilis since forgotten land is now the best selling game in the series
Nightmare in Dream Land is one of the rare remakes that is just worse than the original as far as I can see, but I still love it in its own way. Meanwhile, I never played Super Star Ultra because...well, you could say I have somewhat of a negative relationship with the original. I don't think it's good, but I for some reason played it more often than some games I actually do like. Maybe it's masochism, idk. Anyways, I am afraid of the possibility that the remake does not exactly fix what's wrong here and is another no good-situration. And well, RTDLDX is pretty much king. There are some nitpicks I can throw at it where it does something worse, but they are not as overwhelming as the NIDL details, especially because they are actually made up with more new content than anyone actually wanted and a lot of QoL features that make the game feel a lot closer to the games released after the original(Which is good because those games really polished things up).
While I have loads of nostalgia for SSU, Deluxe easily tops it in terms of how it upgrades the original. An entirely new epilogue, lovely overhaul on the graphics department, and tons of new mini games! You could argue all of these were also done in Ultra, but they didn't feel like their full potential was reached in that entry (also Deluxe adds more Magolor so umm yeah it's instantly better)
I'm tossed between Super Star Ultra and Return to Dream Land Deluxe. Both remakes delivered on it quality, content and fun factor. If I had to choose the winner, it would be Return to Dream Land Deluxe.
The Kirby fandom generally decided to pretend Extra Epic Yarn doesn't exist. Not that it even graphically improves anything, it is a port with some features. And people aren't even sold on some of them.
@@mi1key Because alot of people believe it is in fact not better than the original because the remake misses some of the points and reasons people liked the original.
You know I think Kirby's Return to Dreamland Deluxe has to be one of the best Kirby games I played on the Switch but I want to see another Kirby remake for Switch and not on Switch 2! I want to see like remastered versions of both Kirby 3DS Games like Kirby Triple Deluxe and Kirby Planet Robobot coming to the Switch and not on Switch 2! And also adding new epilogue modes for both Taranza and Susie like seeing Taranza finding Queen Sectonia after she was defeated from Kirby so that they can be together again and for Susie maybe she tries to find her father after Star Dream was destroyed by Kirby with him in it or maybe she tries finding Kirby’s Robobot Suit after Kirby defeated Star Dream or maybe having a backstory for Susie I don’t know but it would be cool to see these games be shown in the game awards on the Switch instead of being in Switch 2!
I think a neat idea would be doing "prequel" modes for taranza and susie instead of epilogues, like taranza going to the mirror world to steal the mirror and susie trying to escape from Another Dimention before joining the haltmann works company
@@connorj1165 idk, she doesn't seem interested in doing this since in star allies it is stated that she went ahead with her life continuing her father's activity in the company
My rankings would be Nightmare in Dream Land, Return to Dream Land Deluxe, Super Star Ultra. Extra Epic Yarn doesn't count since it's an enhanced port.
They removed scope shot so it's automatically worse SSU didn't remove or alter content...so it's still on top for me personally (even if rtdldx is still a great remake)
Everything that Return to Dream Land Deluxe added more than makes up for Scope Shot being missing imo, and it’s still there in spirit between Kirby on the Draw and Booming Blasters.
@@FedoraKirb yeah but while in ssu there's no reason to go back to the original if someone wants to play scope shot he has to go with the original game
@GreatGonzalez That’s fair enough. It’s a shame it was removed, because RtDLDX was SO close to being THE definitive version of the game rather than just a far better one.
I mean if you want to go extreme, there are two more remakes: Super Star Stacker and Extra Epic Yarn I guess lol. Can't call the latter a remake though, it's more like a demake.
It was a bit lower quality than the snes but it added a lot of tracks that overall make the soundtrack better in my opinion, just think of the castle lololo remix for dyna blade and wham bham rock/jewel, the mecha lobster theme, masked dedede, the true arena, galacta knight and also the Kabula remix
Some of the music might not be as good as the original, but the remake added many new tracks that have been reappeared in later games like in Kirby: Triple Deluxe or Kirby Star Allies.
Your criticism of Nightmate in Dream Land makes no sense. They’re not just gonna give all the abilities full movesets it wouldnt be a remake of Adventure lol
Idk, this video feels lacking: >not even a mention of blowout blast and extra epic yarn, which okay the former is more a reimagining while the latter is more an enchaned port, but what about kirby super star stacker and super kirby clash then? >you can criticize the faithfulness of nightmare in dreamland but adding superstar attacks to all abilities would have certainly broke the game, maybe if they combined at least the 2 ice Ability but it clearly wasn't in hal plans, also it HAS multiplayer, was that a joke on the fact that multiplayer gba games are hard to access? >not only you need 2 ds to play ultra in multiplayer, both players also need a copy of the same game, if you use download play you only have Spring breeze on only 1 of the ds screens and both have to look at that screen(yes, really).
Evidently, not Extra Epic Yarn
Thats because everyone forgot it existed
Do we even count Extra Epic Yarn? Isn’t it more of a port than a remake? Yeah sure it’s the same campaign again but with new mechanics and power ups, but graphic wise it doesn’t change much compared to the original.
@@plazmeonsparks257 it still changed the graphics (even if a downgrade to most) and it added stuff like what you mentioned. Definitely a remake, although whether it's a good one is up for debate
@@ecstaticwooper368ig it's more of a demake
I am still secretly waiting for when the Dark Matter trilogy will be remade
How did you get that emoji
@@GreatGonzalez Its the channel subscription thingy
@@casualkris4806 oh lol i didn't know
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Extra Epic, Nightmare, Return Deluxe, Superstar Ultra
Superstar ultra just felt like a necessary overhaul for a sorely flawed classic that didn’t leave much if anything out and single-handedly made the original obsolete and pointless to back to in the long run ON TOP OF redefining the entire series and it’s over all structure in the end
Also “Please enter me” -Channel Kirby 2023
if only Nightmare in Dreamland had co-op, only then it could reach it’s full potential 😶
But it has co op, you needed the link cable on the gba but if they release it on nso you can play it online
@@GreatGonzalez i think that was a joke
@@mi1key i assumed that it was not a joke because since it's hard to play that game in multiplayer nowadays i think people could easily forget that was a feature but you could be right
@@GreatGonzalez yeah, out of the 2 to have multiplayer on the gba , amazing mirror is more known for the multiplayer than nightmare in dreamland
Kirby really does set the bar for remakes…
Finally a good Kirby channel
This the only kirby based channel I've seen sense meteorz left. Let alone a good channel
Antdude?
@@FedoraKirb oh yeah
Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn seems to be the most 'forgotten' game lol. While remakes may not be the best compared to the original, but they did introduces new modes or music that the original did not featured (especially Kirby Super Star Ultra) and became the standard of future Kirby games beyond Kirby: Triple Deluxe. Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe is probably the best remake game HAL has made, featuring lots of contents such as Magolor Epilogue which is like the post-game mode telling the story of Magolor while having some relations with Team Kirby Clash Deluxe / Super Kirby Clash games and adding the 2 new abilities (Mecha and Sand) in the lor starcutter challenge stages
I know this is a video about remakes but were you able to play the 3DS “remaster” of Kirby’s Adventure? It’s FANTASTIC. Unfortunately it’s unavailable now since the shop is gone…
Return Deluxe is what really sticks out to me as the best and most perfect remake
ultra is a great game that definitely fixed my biggest issues with the original, but some snags were still left intact like certain level designs and overly-easy bosses, while deluxe feels like it strikes the perfect balance between staying faithful to what the original did right while also not compromising literally any opportunity to improve. they even revamped the extra mode to make it actually challenging while still sticking to it's fundamentals
1-Return Deluxe
2-Star Ultra
3- Nightmare in Dream land
4-Extra epic yarn.
extra epic yarn goes last because it got rid of multiplayer
I think an Amazing mirror remake would be neat, since people would still be able to play the original on nso i think they could be encouraged to improve the game even more by adding modern movesets to the abilities, maybe some new abilities like in rtdldx and second phases to bosses. I don't think they could handle the online well though, maybe it should be released on the next console. Also i'd say that superstar ultra is indeed the best kirby remake because it's the only one that does not remove any freature from the original (nidl replaced all the minigames, even though i like the new ones more, and removed the rotation effect in butter building, while rtdldx removed scope shot so for these two there is still at least a little reason to go back to the originals, but i still prefer all these remakes to the originals overall)
So you think it could happen in the next console what happens if it doesn't and then Nintendo decides to put it on the Switch? But a Amazing Mirror remake would be awesome to see
@@connorj1165 i don't think it will be released on switch if they actually decide to remake it because rtdl dx is still too recent and i don't think they want to release too many remakes in a row, maybe we should wait the next anniversary and by that time i think the switch successor will be already been released for a few years since it's rumored to come out in late 2024
@@connorj1165 also they just released it on nso so it would be redundant (for this reason i'm starting to lose the hope for remakes of the zelda oracles games in the style of link's awakening)
@@GreatGonzalez I mean I don't know since we have to wait till 2027 for the next Kirby Anniversary which I'm still hoping to see something for Kirby Right Back At Ya like seriously they need to do something for it but who knows they might do another Kirby game remake on Switch who knows we'll see
@@connorj1165 if you think about it the last time they remade a kirby game before rtdl dx was ssu which came out in 2008, so 15 years before this (not counting extra epic yarn that is more of a port with new features than a remake). For this reason i don't think they will release another remake soon, and they could also do triple deluxe or robobot first. Also if they announce a kirby movie that has some cameos of characters right back at ya like escargoon it would be neat, but i think they would need to soft reboot it to attract new audience and they should include a more iconic villain than Nightmare, like magolor or the dark matter or elfilis since forgotten land is now the best selling game in the series
Kirby Superstar Ultra and Kirby Return to Dreamland Delux.
Nightmare in Dream Land is one of the rare remakes that is just worse than the original as far as I can see, but I still love it in its own way. Meanwhile, I never played Super Star Ultra because...well, you could say I have somewhat of a negative relationship with the original. I don't think it's good, but I for some reason played it more often than some games I actually do like. Maybe it's masochism, idk. Anyways, I am afraid of the possibility that the remake does not exactly fix what's wrong here and is another no good-situration.
And well, RTDLDX is pretty much king. There are some nitpicks I can throw at it where it does something worse, but they are not as overwhelming as the NIDL details, especially because they are actually made up with more new content than anyone actually wanted and a lot of QoL features that make the game feel a lot closer to the games released after the original(Which is good because those games really polished things up).
While I have loads of nostalgia for SSU, Deluxe easily tops it in terms of how it upgrades the original. An entirely new epilogue, lovely overhaul on the graphics department, and tons of new mini games! You could argue all of these were also done in Ultra, but they didn't feel like their full potential was reached in that entry (also Deluxe adds more Magolor so umm yeah it's instantly better)
I'm tossed between Super Star Ultra and Return to Dream Land Deluxe. Both remakes delivered on it quality, content and fun factor.
If I had to choose the winner, it would be Return to Dream Land Deluxe.
Beating up the bad guys and taking away there powers.
all 6 blowout blast fans (its technically a remake of dream land)
also what about extra epic yarn? i think its WAY better than the original.
The Kirby fandom generally decided to pretend Extra Epic Yarn doesn't exist. Not that it even graphically improves anything, it is a port with some features.
And people aren't even sold on some of them.
@@casualkris4806 i dont get why they would pretend a remake better than the og doesnt exist.
@@mi1key Because alot of people believe it is in fact not better than the original because the remake misses some of the points and reasons people liked the original.
@@casualkris4806 ,oh, i just really like it because it added actual challenge.
@@casualkris4806 still doesnt explain blowout blast though.
You know I think Kirby's Return to Dreamland Deluxe has to be one of the best Kirby games I played on the Switch but I want to see another Kirby remake for Switch and not on Switch 2! I want to see like remastered versions of both Kirby 3DS Games like Kirby Triple Deluxe and Kirby Planet Robobot coming to the Switch and not on Switch 2! And also adding new epilogue modes for both Taranza and Susie like seeing Taranza finding Queen Sectonia after she was defeated from Kirby so that they can be together again and for Susie maybe she tries to find her father after Star Dream was destroyed by Kirby with him in it or maybe she tries finding Kirby’s Robobot Suit after Kirby defeated Star Dream or maybe having a backstory for Susie I don’t know but it would be cool to see these games be shown in the game awards on the Switch instead of being in Switch 2!
I think a neat idea would be doing "prequel" modes for taranza and susie instead of epilogues, like taranza going to the mirror world to steal the mirror and susie trying to escape from Another Dimention before joining the haltmann works company
@@GreatGonzalez Okay but what about her trying to find her father or trying to find Kirby's Robobot Suit after defeating Star Dream?
@@connorj1165 idk, she doesn't seem interested in doing this since in star allies it is stated that she went ahead with her life continuing her father's activity in the company
My rankings would be Nightmare in Dream Land, Return to Dream Land Deluxe, Super Star Ultra. Extra Epic Yarn doesn't count since it's an enhanced port.
They removed scope shot so it's automatically worse
SSU didn't remove or alter content...so it's still on top for me personally (even if rtdldx is still a great remake)
Everything that Return to Dream Land Deluxe added more than makes up for Scope Shot being missing imo, and it’s still there in spirit between Kirby on the Draw and Booming Blasters.
@@FedoraKirb yeah but while in ssu there's no reason to go back to the original if someone wants to play scope shot he has to go with the original game
@GreatGonzalez That’s fair enough. It’s a shame it was removed, because RtDLDX was SO close to being THE definitive version of the game rather than just a far better one.
I mean if you want to go extreme, there are two more remakes: Super Star Stacker and Extra Epic Yarn I guess lol. Can't call the latter a remake though, it's more like a demake.
They screwed up the music in super star ultra
It was a bit lower quality than the snes but it added a lot of tracks that overall make the soundtrack better in my opinion, just think of the castle lololo remix for dyna blade and wham bham rock/jewel, the mecha lobster theme, masked dedede, the true arena, galacta knight and also the Kabula remix
Some of the music might not be as good as the original, but the remake added many new tracks that have been reappeared in later games like in Kirby: Triple Deluxe or Kirby Star Allies.
Your criticism of Nightmate in Dream Land makes no sense. They’re not just gonna give all the abilities full movesets it wouldnt be a remake of Adventure lol
I love how he doesn't even mention extra epic yarn because we know how awful it is as a remake.
It's a demake, not a remake.
it is a great remake actually
@@mi1key No, it's not.
@@mariobroultimate1808 it is
@@mi1key What's so good about it?
Idk, this video feels lacking:
>not even a mention of blowout blast and extra epic yarn, which okay the former is more a reimagining while the latter is more an enchaned port, but what about kirby super star stacker and super kirby clash then?
>you can criticize the faithfulness of nightmare in dreamland but adding superstar attacks to all abilities would have certainly broke the game, maybe if they combined at least the 2 ice Ability but it clearly wasn't in hal plans, also it HAS multiplayer, was that a joke on the fact that multiplayer gba games are hard to access?
>not only you need 2 ds to play ultra in multiplayer, both players also need a copy of the same game, if you use download play you only have Spring breeze on only 1 of the ds screens and both have to look at that screen(yes, really).