Bukowski against Mickey Mouse
Vložit
- čas přidán 28. 12. 2007
- a sequence from the documentary "Born into This"
(John Dullaghan, 2003)
with Sean Penn
english with italian subtitles
All rights are exclusive property of the author John
Dullaghan - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Instagram "influencers" are the Mickey Mouses of today.
This is great
Man, you're the truth fr fr for this fact.
Yes thats terrible and poor children of Russia, China etc that cant see all this nice influencers and Disney crap
The super casual, offhanded way BUK tells the interviewer "you're really fucked up" kills me lmaooo
"Where do you get this crap, baby?" :) Classic Bukowski.
honesty is a hell of a drug!
It’s the best thing you can do. Relish it.
"Where do you get this crap? You're really fucked up." hahahahaha Bukowski was fucking awesome.
"Your really fucked up" hahahaha
Everybody knows Donald Duck was the real fuckin' guy.
@lottewonder
Bukowski relied on experience, emotion, and imagination in his work, using direct language and violent and sexual imagery.
However, rather than justifying or glorifying his life style, he satirized the machismo attitude through his routine use of sex, alcohol abuse, and violence. Without trying to make himself look good, Bukowski writes with a nothing-to-lose truthfulness which sets him apart from most other ‘autobiographical’ novelists and poets.
Reading through the comments makes me feel less alone... Thank you guys for keep it real and seeing through the veil.
Stay strong. This current world is BS
We are many that see but few who do something about it
Of course Bukowski was a misogynist. So what? Most important writing has some pretty glaring faults. That doesn't make it less important. It just requires you to use your adult brain when reading, to distinguish the parts you like from the parts you don't like, and think about why.
most writers in history were drunk misogynistic assholes. about 99.99%. if we tossed them all out all what we'd have left is "chicken soup for the soul" and "the fault in our stars" and "the secret".
Wow I hope you aren't so angry and reactionary anymore.
He was more of a misanthrope than a misogynist.
What's bad about mysogyny? We need more of them in today's fake world.
Well he was not terribly attractive physically and had a terrible childhood so yeah some resentment there.
Such a fantastic video. Thanks for the effort you put into it! Keep it up :) :D
The interviewer said he "read" Bukowski's work, but he did all that reading without ever bothering to open his eyes...
Bukowski was some writer. He was a great writer because he literally came back from the dead and finally got a publishing deal, when he was fifty.
Grazie per averlo postato. Tra i preferiti e five stars!!
It's true. I was raised in Florida my whole life and still live here and it's an unfortunate fact how a fucking rat has literally blinded everyone here. You're lucky if you can escape the grip of the rat's teeth here because if you mention anything of a realistic nature, people's little bubbles are popped and don't know how to react to the cold hard truth of life.
It must be a horrible life there in Florida if Mickey Mouse is everywhere and has blinded people and taken away their ( except for you ) sense of reality .. If you are still alive today ..🐁
@@maipful I mean he's right. They feed us all these distractions just to keep us in check and sane. It's not just mickey mouse but it's all things in life like religions and television and all this other stuff. I dont think it's anything wrong with all these things and new privileges we have but instead how we use it. If all of these things didn't exist humanity wouldn't of been able to propagate although it propagated poorly. It's not just in Florida where people's sense of reality vanished but it's everywhere in fact the originator of this comment thread is or was most definitely one of those "blinded people"
'Where do you get this crap, baby?'
'I don't know where you get your concepts from, man.'
'You're really fucked up.'
What more can genius say to benality that it's nutshell mind may grasp.
On the other hand, old school Donald Duck was always broke, frustrated, working-class, and even if he was having some success for a while, he would by the end of the episode loose it all.
"Love is a dog from hell"
Hmmm ok.
That's why we like bukowski, he doesn't say everything will be better , he says everything is fucked up and you need to deal with the
This.
I think The dutch interviewer guy understood bukowski but wanted to ask him some hard questions and he did a good job with that and then bukowski calls him out which was bukoskis way of trolling him but I think they enjoyed eachothers company
" I don't know where you get your concepts from man...you're really fucked up. " ....truth buk.
Concerning Bukowski scorn to Mickey Mouse, there was an Italian cartoonist and painter and also very refined storyteller, Andrea Pazienza (1956 - 1988)
Well, between last seventies and beginning eighties, he drew a very short as brilliant tale. Title, PERCHÉ PIPPO SEMBRA UNO SBALLATO (Why Goofy seems a stoned).
I bet Bukowski would had really appreciated Pazienza point of view.
It wouldn't be difficult to find on web, have a look.
Despite it could be a bit hard to understand, because of Goofy (Pippo / pronunce: Peeppo) origins are actually from Puglia, Italian south eastern region with a very strong and peculiar mongrows of dialects, I bet you would enjoy it you too.
And also about who Andrea Pazienza has been.
Bye bye from Napoli
I love Pazienza's art! There's only one English language volume of his comics. We need more!
@@MrAvanish94 I see... Well, at the end of the day it could be an opportunity to learn a little Italian rather.
Would love to, and I actually caught a hint of a few words. But too pressed for time. I love his art tho, no need for any language on that!
"You really f*cked up" lol!!
Steamboat Willie Mickey is the true Mickey Mouse since he was such a bad ass rebel. Then Disney fucked it up and
made him nice and clean cut.
This is almost like watching a mock-umentary... something the Spinal Tap guys would make.
On the bit about the interviewer.. I had a strong feeling he might have read a translation of the book "Women", as I remember reading some really poor translation of Bukowski in French when I was really young (and this interviewer is Belgian, so he might have read the same one(s)). Bukowski's gorgeousness is so subtle, so close to the language itself and American culture that it doesn't translate well unless you've got an equally soulful translator on the other side. French literature of that time sometimes had a very casually crude and soulless take on sexuality and women in general, I seriously wonder if this might have been the obvious divide in that interview. I might be wrong, but I have found this happened a good few times with American books back then, which made me stop reading translations altogether (when i can read them in the original text).
You've never seen the sky like this you never wanna die like thissss
Ha! I remember when tv first came on the scene. I was so 6-7-8 and I was terrifically insulted by the cartoons. Grownups got movies, plays, song/dance; kids got weird moving drawings with piercing loud voices saying dumbass shit and throiwing each other off buildings and through walls. This is what grownups think kids are? When I exprressed that, people would say "But its FUN!!" What makes it seem "fun" to them, I didn't know but being outnumbered, I shut up.
"you're really fucked up"... lol
love and depravity are strange bed fellows
@jessemoynahan As a parent of young children I am all for meaningless escapism. There's a time for seriousness and a time for fun. My little girl went through a stage of liking Mickey (she got over it by age 3, lol) and I believe that a child's innocence should be allowed to last as long as possible. They'll have enough years of "reality". And, again, I didn't 'support' Mickey, I just didn't like Buk's hatred for him. He seemed to hate many things. Anyway, thanks for the appology, stay positive.
Oh. So that's why I can relate to Bukowski.
I dig Sean Penn, but Hollywood embraces Bukowski for the "easiness" of his work. What does some actor really have to say about a guy who, for better or worse, dumped his guts out for the world to see. It is ironic that an actor has something to say about a man who refused (in the beginning) to act a part. Sorry if you think I'm argumentative, but I just don't buy into actors all that often.
"I dont know where you get your cencepts from man ... you really fucked up."
Hahaha! Hes right, damn those are some uninspiring questions!
"where u getting your concepts from man? u really fucked up" lol
@amedee01 It's escapism at it's worst, pretending all's fine and dandy... they never let you know how Mickey feels about the bombs dropping or the mass killings that take place regularly.
Penn looks like he has a good one going, you know a buzz.
Bukowski knew about Mickey Mouse before anybody. Almost, at least.
About making mistakes in a messy world.
Yeah, I find it hard to believe, he didn't leave his daughter anything
he was worth 4 million , who said he didnt leave her anything lol ?
2:50 yeah but the dogs need to have style so they can enter gates of hell
"But I mean, I don't know where you get your concepts from man. You're really fucked up."
@Grendo147 How would you know?
I love Karbowski I find him very close to me.
hank made one wrong decision: he married linda.
CollectingIdeas it was HIS mistake to make.
It was rocky but he truly loved her; the presence of the emotional truth is all that matters most at the end of the day
Sean penn looks really high!
They have Software to turn up the volume...
Actually, the emergence of Mickey Mouse is not at all surprising. Escapes from a nasty (and tragic) human predicament are endless.
@PeterCooksArse Couldn't have said it better myself.no way....right on..
@jessemoynahan Are you a parent?
@ThEmIdNiGhTiNtRuDeR I was refering to his wife.
Penn reads bukowski I take it. Who doesn't? Or better, who shouldn't?
look at disney now. he was right
Cue 4/20/2022
@wasteland70 Damn u couldnt say it any better..thank u!
Жемчужина
...
Вы - жемчуг, достойный богатой тиары,
монета, которой так чужд оборот!
О Вас бы сыграл я во все бы гитары,
но нет на Земле таких правильных нот!
Вы - кладезь познаний, страстей и достоинств,
наследница Бога и творческих сил,
глава соблазнений, священств или воинств,
в какие бы я без раздумий вступил!
Вы - луч, обладающий собственным цветом.
Вы - лоск, белизна, молодая волна,
актриса, что вновь интригует сюжетом,
и птаха, что песнями, волей полна!
И хоть переменчив Ваш облик известный,
и хоть разноличен, но всё же един,
такой откровенный, улыбчивый, честный,
какой заслужил уже сотни картин!
Мне кажется, Вы - целовальная дива,
умелица, в коей бездоннейший шарм...
Из дальних краёв, где ручьишки и нивы,
привет посылаю волнующей Вам!
so true!!!
"I was not jumping into bed."
This is the truth, 90% of the women he claimed to bed do not exist.
Wow,,, powerful.....
True, and probably a wise choice. But then again, you'll never write _Ham on Rye_! So a guy like Bukowski endures a rough life but society gains art from it.
I love this guy..he represents I
Damn, he really was a miserable bastard lmao
But at least he had fun doing it
He had all the right to be miserable and turned it into art, a unique style. He wasn't whining about a bad hair day.
You summed him up well.
"I don't know where you get your concepts from man, you're really fucked up"
Disney's taking over the world nowadays
m.mouse was square but heckle and jeckle were hip cats
Why?
@sobradodelobo lol guess whats in the related clips... Bono recites Bukowski hahahaha
🍺🍺🍺bukowski🍺🍺🍺
this would be a great anti-alcohol commercial :)
Not really Bukowski makes me proud to drink beer.
@sondlar Belgian :P
(just like Poirot :)
I think Mickey Mouse should respond to this video.
Hell yeah..or us either!
oh, some guy just posted that line, well who cares.
FMM
.
i hate MM since i was 6..
Ugh, i detest all things Disney. I was forced to go there with my kids and ex wife, miserable experience! I'd rather staple my eyelids shut than go to Disneyland or watch Disney movies.
Excuse me, but Bukowski was examining these concepts in his art long before it was 'fashionable''. When I read the posts on any Bukowski video, I can always count on reading a lot of pissing and moaning from hosts of untalented/frustrated 'artists' who find it easy to crticize a dead man. I'd say your comment is nothing but a projection of your own flustered ego. Go be a 'boring but happy" guy. What do you people seek to gain with your feeble, almost infantile critiques of his work?
AhahahaHAHAHA
@jessemoynahan I never mentioned my feelings for Mickey. I guess you're another hater too eh?
@amedee01 just sayin this towards the defense of Mickey you've taken up. In response to your "go ahead and hate mickey" comment. thought I'd fit the opposing feelings to your argument. But call me just another hater if you must. What I said about your love not being much: completely uncalled for and immature of me. I humble myself and hope you can do the same in regards to your support of this mouse character.
nothing creative? mickey mouse black n white late 20s was all about creativity, rhythm and laughter.
kinda didn't like how they had one of the most pretentious full-of-shit actors in the world commenting on chuck. but ya know, he was his pal, so it fits. We all have friends we don't always agree with and in spite of everything of sure Mr. Penn(e?) was an excellent drinking-buddy and conversationalist.
sean penn was bukowskis buddy?
@amedee01 go ahead and love mickey mouse. Terrible waste of your love but it likely isn't that much
justifying and romanticising depression, frustration, and anger is "dated " concept.
channeling that energy into art should be a healing process.
art starts where the ego stops,..everything else is good craftmansship, simple luck ore abuse of oneself or ones environment.
i d rather like to be a boring but happy guy, than a self destructive, miserable old man, trapped by my demons.
Icke Er true that
Bukowski is the REAL Howard Roark. That is what he would have looked like had he been real. Sean Penn makes a lot of SHIT, but he also made the indian runner and that was fantastic, despite his pretentions. and he had enough sense to be friends with Hank.
Lighten up, Bookowski, not everything has to be about your damn books...
eeeeeeeeew, sean penn 🤢
Micky Mouse = Christianity
Mickey mouse is more sophisticated and intelligent than Charles bukowski