How Karatsuba's algorithm gave us new ways to multiply

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  • čas přidán 15. 04. 2024
  • To advance the field of computer science, mathematician Kolmogorov tried to optimise the multiplication algorithm we learn in elementary school. After failing to do so, he conjectured that no faster algorithms exist. This gave rise to Karatsuba's fast multiplication algorithm, an algorithm named after Anatoly Karatsuba that is faster than the elementary school algorithm. This video gives an introduction to theoretical computer science and Kolmogorov's conjecture, explains the algorithm, proves that it has a runtime faster than quadratic, and goes over the history of multiplication algorithms that came afterwards.
    0:00 Theoretical Computer Science
    5:25 Kolmogorov
    7:34 Karatsuba
    15:12 The Post-FFT Era
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  • @yurr7408
    @yurr7408 Před 2 lety +1210

    Kolmogorov is one of the coolest men I've heard of. Admitting defeat and then anonymously supporting the kid. wild

    • @bluesteel7874
      @bluesteel7874 Před 2 lety +83

      Really curious people wants their ideas to be scrutinized. They seek knowledge.

    • @godfather7339
      @godfather7339 Před 2 lety +17

      Soviets and their communism.
      nowadays you will get "researchers" sponsored by pharma/oil/any companies.

    • @NemisCassander
      @NemisCassander Před 2 lety +68

      I know of Kolmogorov mainly from my work in statistical analysis. There he is, basically, a god.

    • @healmyvision5941
      @healmyvision5941 Před 2 lety +19

      Unthinkable nowadays
      Nowadays he would have canceled him and his career for the „crime“ of being right

    • @scottcourtney8878
      @scottcourtney8878 Před 2 lety +50

      Indeed. To not only admit, but actually welcome, verifiable new information that unseats old hypotheses is the hallmark of good science. I have no doubt that Kolmogorov carefully analyzed Karatsuba's proofs before fully accepting them (as any wise researcher would), but once he had confirmed their validity, he had the intellectual courage and integrity to embrace them. A scientist is not diminished when their hypotheses are disproved, because that is how we evolve the body of human knowledge, but some will diminish themselves by refusing to accept this with grace.

  • @soyanchd5439
    @soyanchd5439 Před 2 lety +2704

    Props to Kolmogorov, he could have sent the paper in his own name without giving credit to an unknown student and take all the merit. The academic world is sometimes ruthless

    • @MiGujack3
      @MiGujack3 Před 2 lety +175

      @@marcnye9221 Corporate is eroding that, now quicker than ever.

    • @beltramejp
      @beltramejp Před 2 lety +51

      @@marcnye9221 while in engineering... :/

    • @andremeIIo
      @andremeIIo Před 2 lety +132

      @@marcnye9221 great that you've got that impression, but the reality is that more and more university professors are favouring producing quantity over quality of papers so they can earn "prestige", and the students are used as free labour to support that.

    • @mrkitty777
      @mrkitty777 Před 2 lety +19

      Sure B Gates gave credits to computer scientist, sure, B Gates is well known for it. In reality however Gates stole almost everything and forced many people over the edge to afterlife. Dr Gary Kildall his Wikipedia can enlighten you how B Gates haircut fooled him when B Gates stole his 10 year of work developing an operating system and the BIOS all computers once had.

    • @no1ofinterst426
      @no1ofinterst426 Před 2 lety +79

      Incorrect. I can name atleast one Ruth in the academic field (Ruth Aaronson Bari)

  • @alexray4969
    @alexray4969 Před 2 lety +3787

    I think the fact we don't teach fast fourier transform in elementary school says a lot about society.

    • @jakewalklate6226
      @jakewalklate6226 Před 2 lety +776

      We should replace the early education curriculum with theoretical computer science and graph theory

    • @letsburn00
      @letsburn00 Před 2 lety +214

      Read the comment section on any WW2 obscure event which has an insignificant effect on the war. "Why didnt I learn about this in school? Clearly it's a conspiracy against America!"
      I know youre joking, but that attitude is so common.

    • @jakewalklate6226
      @jakewalklate6226 Před 2 lety +112

      @@letsburn00 well there will be no history at all once I’m done with it, mathematics only

    • @letsburn00
      @letsburn00 Před 2 lety +75

      @@jakewalklate6226 Spoken like a true mathematician. "Clearly Stalin invaded at the point due to numerical superiority over Finland.
      What about mathematical history? I'm still never entirely sure why we use 360 degrees apart from ease of use and something about Babylonians.

    • @paulmichaelfreedman8334
      @paulmichaelfreedman8334 Před 2 lety +118

      @@letsburn00 the use of 60 and 360 is because 60 is divisible by a lot of numbers. 1,2,3,4,5,6,10,12,15,20 and 30. Easy for calculator-less times.

  • @kitsurubami
    @kitsurubami Před rokem +43

    For anyone curious at 13:38 N^1.6 is used as an approximation. It's really N ^ log base 2 of 3. If you want to enter it into a calculator use the change of base formula. Log(3) / Log(2)

    • @mskiptr
      @mskiptr Před rokem +3

      Well, every O(n^log2(3)) algorithm is also an O(n^1.6) algorithm, so the video is fully correct in approximating that number while not labeling the whole thing as approximated.
      Though I personally do like to state bounds like that exactly. Θ notation is a good way to do that (it just means both O and Ω).

    • @willsterjohnson
      @willsterjohnson Před rokem +2

      taking log2 of 3 to be 1.58 (it's not, it's much closer to 1.6, I've added about 30% difference here) this difference doesn't break 10% until N=194, in base 10 that's;
      10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
      it doesn't break 5% until N=13, or one trillion in base 10, so the discrepancy grows at a painfully slow logarithmic curve;
      1,000,000,000,000
      For all human use cases, N^log2(3) = N^1.6

  • @MrTyty527
    @MrTyty527 Před 2 lety +124

    I love how you bring nearly-unreachable knowledge to the community through interesting and easy-to-understand videos. I would never know this bit of theoretical CS otherwise. Keep up the good work!!!

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      @ApteraEV2024 Před rokem

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  • @Ricocossa1
    @Ricocossa1 Před 2 lety +346

    It's amazing how a simple problem like multiplication can devolve into such complex mathematical discoveries. Who would have thought that multiplying optimally is insanely more difficult than adding.

    • @SnakeTwix
      @SnakeTwix Před 2 lety +25

      Would you really not expect multiplication, which is basically an extension of addition, to be harder to optimize, than its more basic "counterpart"?

    • @Ricocossa1
      @Ricocossa1 Před 2 lety +21

      @@SnakeTwix Yes, but not that much harder.

    • @michaelbauers8800
      @michaelbauers8800 Před 2 lety +27

      I set out, one afternoon, to write a large number library, just for my own edification. When I got to division, I realized I didn't actually know how to program a computer to divide, other than using built in divide. Sometimes simple things are not as simple as they seem :)

    • @AntoineViallonDevelloper
      @AntoineViallonDevelloper Před 2 lety +5

      @@michaelbauers8800 just use Euclid's algorithm for integers.

    • @CTimmerman
      @CTimmerman Před rokem +1

      @@AntoineViallonDevelloper Euclid's algorithm is an efficient method for computing the greatest common divisor (GCD) of two integers (numbers) but it uses division itself, so isn't useful to Michael.

  • @BotCheese
    @BotCheese Před 2 lety +77

    The legend is back

  • @bartekltg
    @bartekltg Před rokem +44

    Between Karatsuba and FFT there is a Toom-Cook algorithm, from 1963-66. As FFT, it treats both numbers as polynomials, evaluate the values naivly in some points (for small numbers! Like 0,+-1, -2,+inf), multiply them and then interpolate it back to polynomial form.
    "2 way" toom-cook recreates Karatsuba. The original "3 way" and "for way" have the complexity O(N^1.465) and O(N^1.404). The GMP library (a hefty library for big numbers) uses naive, Karatsuba, "3","4","6.5" and "8.5-way" toom-cook, and fft, using each algorithm for numbers of different lengths.

    • @yash1152
      @yash1152 Před rokem

      uhm waht? :sweat_smile:

  • @roberthigbee3260
    @roberthigbee3260 Před rokem +39

    Kolmogorov also advanced the study of fluid flow turbulence so much that they named a constant after him and still refer to his work to this day!

  • @MattWyndham
    @MattWyndham Před 2 lety +100

    This is what I studied in my 200-level, 300-level, and 400-level computer science algorithms class. Good explanation!

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    @gligoradrian784 Před 2 lety +16

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    Thank you.

  • @mickharrigan1814
    @mickharrigan1814 Před 2 lety +9

    I really enjoyed this, good to see more coming from this channel. Excitedly looking forward for more!

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    @haiguyzimnew Před 2 lety +21

    I loved fast inverse square root and finally you've released some more videos! Makes my day. Take however long you want, they're worth it.

  • @simonmultiverse6349
    @simonmultiverse6349 Před 2 lety +24

    14:47 That was honest of Kolmogorov. I have met a few people in my career who would pretend to have done work which was actually done by someone else. They would then take the credit for the other person's work.

    • @CrudeBuster
      @CrudeBuster Před rokem

      yeah you know, people learned the lesson after all the Leibniz/Newton kerfuffle over calculus

  • @polarisinglol
    @polarisinglol Před 2 lety +16

    Wonderful video :) I am writing an Algorithms exam next week and wanted to take a break from learning but ended up learning about the algorithm more than in my lecture and in a more exciting and relaxing way. Thank you for this masterpiece and wonderful editing!

  • @rebmcr
    @rebmcr Před 2 lety +249

    Even if the lower bound is Ω(N × log N), there is still mathematical progress to be made (or disproven) in finding an algorithm which is that efficient with smaller and smaller inputs.

    • @icollectstories5702
      @icollectstories5702 Před 2 lety +87

      Look-up table!😜

    • @auriga05
      @auriga05 Před 2 lety +32

      @@icollectstories5702 O(1) multiplication?

    • @diamondcreeper0982
      @diamondcreeper0982 Před 2 lety +18

      @@icollectstories5702 it's fast but not memory efficient.

    • @Ruhrpottpatriot
      @Ruhrpottpatriot Před 2 lety +26

      @@diamondcreeper0982 You always have the trade-off between speed and memory and as it currently goes, memory is cheap.

    • @diamondcreeper0982
      @diamondcreeper0982 Před 2 lety +16

      @@Ruhrpottpatriot although memory is cheap it's not available in everything.
      for example if we wanted to use this method we would run out of memory in an Arduino quickly, but i do agree that if we have the memory to spare then this would be the fastest solution.

  • @mikkolukas
    @mikkolukas Před rokem +17

    Fun fact: When computers are multiplying whole numbers, the compiler will often optimize the code, so it doubles (or halves) the number one or more times (which is a single operation in the computer, known as bit shifting) and then add or subtract a konstant to achieve the result.
    So a code of x * 9 (which is (x * 8) + 1) would be compiled as an equivalent to (x

    • @hoane6777
      @hoane6777 Před rokem

      very interesting, do all compilers do this? is there a way to force this specific method if i notice the compiler isnt doing it? Also, i think you meant to write (x * (8+1)) or even more descriptive, (x * (2^3+1))

    • @EpicBikingAdventures
      @EpicBikingAdventures Před rokem

      (x * 8) + x

    • @timewave02012
      @timewave02012 Před rokem +1

      @@hoane6777 In general, no, you can't force a compiler to do something not specified by the language. You have to write the code the way you want it, and that's almost always a bad idea for maintainability. Also, if you're working with numbers big enough for calculation speed to matter, the compiler won't know to optimize anything, because the calculations will span multiple variables of the largest builtin type (e.g. 64 bits). If you're working on cryptographic code, you need to worry about how the calculations are performed for more than just speed. If a calculation takes a different number of steps depending on the value of a key, for example, that weakness can be used by attackers to retrieve the value of the key.

    • @DasHemdchen
      @DasHemdchen Před rokem

      I was astonished to learn that my C64 didn‘t have a Mult opcode, and to multiply any number by for example ten, it had to multiply by eight (shift three times) and then add the input value two times. What a hassle!

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    @pattabor5268 Před 2 lety +2

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    @Corncycle Před rokem +4

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    @owobooperlv7673 Před 2 lety +3

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  • @tomerwolberg37
    @tomerwolberg37 Před 2 lety +66

    17:20 note that also loglogN is practically constant like the k^log*(n) since loglog(N) where N is the numbers of atoms in the observable universe is around 8. If N is the number of atoms in the observable universe then loglogN is actually smaller than 4^log*(N).

    • @daldi5211
      @daldi5211 Před 2 lety

      What base do you use for the log?

    • @tomerwolberg37
      @tomerwolberg37 Před 2 lety +6

      @@daldi5211 2

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 Před 2 lety +7

      @@daldi5211 in practice in IT we would use base 2 as we can approximate it by counting bits from the ones bit (which we count as zero) up to the largest bit with a value of 1.
      However there is a theorem that states that to change a log from one base to another we can multiply by a constant that depends only on the two bases. And we know from earlier that we can ignore constant multipliers.
      So you can apply this rule in any base you like and it still works.

    • @zip753
      @zip753 Před rokem +1

      it's not a theorem, it's just a simple property deduced from the definition of the logarithm :)

    • @ViguLiviu
      @ViguLiviu Před 5 měsíci

      Fuck, I actually checked it for log(log(10^82)) and it truly does round to 8. Granted I did it in my mind, but it does check out.

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    @icollectstories5702 Před 2 lety +6

    Thanks for explaining this. I vaguely remember running into this algorithm, but discarded it because it recursed without really reducing complexity. After watching your explanation, I realized that if I restrict the recursion depth, I might get something usable.

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      How do you know? You commented 2 minutes after the video got published, there's no way you have watched it all yet. Maybe my video sucks.

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      @Nemean  Před 2 lety +23

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    @nicholashall3479 Před 2 lety +72

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    @Xxnightwalk1 Před 2 lety +2

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    @ZK-im6er Před 2 lety +9

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    @akirachisaka9997 Před 2 lety +19

    I have to say, I can't even remember how many times I have learned Big O notation already, but it's the first time in my life I heard about Linear speedup theorem.
    Like, it suddenly explained everything. I suddenly understand why the linear magnitude does not matter.

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    @mjthebest7294 Před 2 lety +4

    This is FIRE! What a spectacular journey. This is how it should be taught. Can't wait for more videos from you!

    • @kimdammers3838
      @kimdammers3838 Před 2 lety

      Not for everyone. I found the presentation confusing.

    • @frankman2
      @frankman2 Před rokem

      Imagine teaching this to 9 year olds.

  • @YellowBunny
    @YellowBunny Před 2 lety +30

    I really like that the best multiplication algorithm uses the Ramanujan-Hardy number.

  • @kyoai
    @kyoai Před 2 lety +508

    9:30 and 16:00 I think it would've been better if you used actual numbers and showed a practical example of the calculation instead of empty digit boxes/partially filled circle shapes, it would be easier to keep track on and follow what you're talking about. Since the video started with practical examples for the easier algorithms I also was expecting practical examples for the more complicated algorithms. Having to follow where you put which blank box or which abstract circle is filled by how much and trying to find out why you gave the circles these fill values while at the same time also trying to listen to what you are saying is rather irritating.

    • @tophan5146
      @tophan5146 Před 2 lety +27

      I had the same thoughts

    • @louispalko691
      @louispalko691 Před 2 lety +21

      I'm glad someone else pointed this out. I got lost and felt that if I just had a real example to go off of it'd be much easier to follow

    • @Alb-Patriot
      @Alb-Patriot Před 2 lety +6

      Click on his channel. The second video does exactly that

    • @AngelicHunk
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      @@DrDeuteron If you're _not_ bothered by getting lost, I'd say that's a sign of complacency.

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      @@DrDeuteron just admit you don't know wtf is going on and move on lol

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    @Jaime.02 Před 2 lety +24

    This video is truly amazing, it mixes the beauty of computer science and math

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    @deepjoshi356 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for making computational mathematics accessible. The last summary is pure gold.

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    @philrod1 Před 2 lety +4

    That was a joy to watch. Thank you!

  • @scottcourtney8878
    @scottcourtney8878 Před 2 lety +39

    Fascinating algorithm and historical context. Thanks for sharing this and for explaining it so lucidly.
    For those who aren't old enough to remember the old days of computing, one of the reasons multiplication was of such interest is that early CPUs did not have a multiply instruction in hardware. They relied on repeated addition, so if you wanted 58 * 37 it was computed as 58 + 58 + 58 ..... (37 times total), or vice-versa. I'm not sure if the first computers even had the hardware smarts to swap the numbers so they added the larger number a smaller number of times. Repeated addition is often even slower than the O(N**2) elementary school algorithm, so computer scientists were eager for anything that could improve upon that.
    Also for the non-computer folks, Nemean makes the comment that subtraction is essentially the same problem as addition. You know from grade school that subtracting N is the same as adding -N, of course, but it might occur to you that -N is defined as -1 * N, which seems to imply a hidden multiplication step. Fortunately, since computers work in binary, we avoid that by using the "twos complement". In binary, this means flip every bit of the original number, which gives you the "ones complement", then add one. Adding the twos complement of N to another number, say M, is the same as computing M - N.
    Here's an example using 8-bit integers, a common size for early CPUs, to compute 100 - 35. 100 is 64 + 32 + 4, or 01100100 binary. 35 is 32 + 3, or 00100011 binary. Take the ones complement of 00100011 to get 11011100, then add one for the twos complement of 11011101. Adding 01100100 to 11011101 gives (1)01000001. The parentheses are around the carry bit, which in this situation we ignore (see note below). 01000001 is 64 + 1, or 65 decimal, the answer we expect.
    Even in very early computers, the operations to invert every bit (ones complement) and to add one (increment) were single hardware instructions, so the twos complement took at most two steps (and some CPUs had a single instruction to combine them). So subtraction, even on an early CPU with no subtract instruction, was not significantly more difficult than addition.
    The use of twos complement binary arithmetic does imply a need to keep track of that leftmost bit and being aware of whether it is being used as a sign (1 for negative, 0 for positive) or simply as another binary digit. Programmers can define "signed integers" which cut the value's range in half but allow negative numbers, or "unsigned integers" which allow the full range but cannot be less than zero. For instance, a 16-bit unsigned integer can be 0 to 65535, inclusive, while a 16-bit signed integer can instead be -32768 to +32767, inclusive. The CPU hardware, generally, handles the raw bits the same, but the programming language and compiler help the programmer avoid misinterpreting the data.
    I hope this side-trip into computer history and binary math is useful to readers who aren't computer specialists.

    • @_schnelli4800
      @_schnelli4800 Před rokem

      Great comment

    • @raman249
      @raman249 Před rokem

      Very helpful 👍🙂

    • @eatstudio9244
      @eatstudio9244 Před rokem

      wait, didn't booths multiplication algorithm exist back then? I'm surprised they used repeated addition

    • @dtvjho
      @dtvjho Před rokem +1

      To give an example, the Mostek / Rockwell 6502 (of Apple II fame) had add and subtract but no multiply or divide instructions, but the Motorola 68000 (Macintosh) had them. These chips hit the market only 4 years apart.

    • @Dr.JustIsWrong
      @Dr.JustIsWrong Před rokem

      So subtracting, is adding a negative number: 8 - 2 = 8 + (-2)
      And to add a negative number you subtract its absolute value? 8 + (-2) = 8 - |-2| ...
      ... *= 8 - 2 = 8 + (-2) = 8 - |-2| = 8 - 2 =* ... forever..

  • @andrewkraevskii
    @andrewkraevskii Před 2 lety +61

    1:01 In Russian it is better to use the word "сложение" instead of "дополнение" to denote addition.

    • @andrewkraevskii
      @andrewkraevskii Před 2 lety +17

      "дополнение" in Russian means complement (set theory)

    • @Nemean
      @Nemean  Před 2 lety +28

      Oh Jesus... thanks for the input though

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      @AffidavidDonda Před 2 lety +7

      ​@@Nemean​*Oh Lenin...

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      @muchhustle4982 Před 2 lety +3

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      @azratosh Před 2 lety +3

      @@muchhustle4982 Thanks for that copypasta my dude! Haven't seen that one before

  • @ollyoctavian
    @ollyoctavian Před rokem +1

    Really great explanations! And I really appreciate the overview of recent developments

  • @noahwinslow3252
    @noahwinslow3252 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for a fantastically well put together video.

  • @keidza2029
    @keidza2029 Před 2 lety +8

    I'm not into computer science or even math, yet still here to watch video until finished.

  • @SianaGearz
    @SianaGearz Před 2 lety +15

    I have seen fast multiplication on Commodore 64 (6502 processor without a built-in multiplier) based on a similar idea. a*b = ( (a+b)/2 )^2 - ( (a-b)/2 )^2. For all possible values of a+b and a-b, the square of a half is precalculated in a table; so for 8-bit numbers, 512 precalculated table entries are needed. This is easily a few times faster than trivial multiplication.

  • @loganswinamer4003
    @loganswinamer4003 Před 2 lety +1

    i've never seen a youtube account with 3 videos that makes such high quality videos. seriously well done man

  • @financialcafe
    @financialcafe Před rokem +4

    This story about Kolmogorov and Karatsuba should be made into a film so that more people know it

  • @DavidTriphon
    @DavidTriphon Před 2 lety +8

    This whole video is incredibly interesting and explains lots of things very well, but I am laughing so hard at 17:00 . The deadpan delivery of that line “log star of the number of atoms in the universe... is five.”

  • @pawebielinski4903
    @pawebielinski4903 Před rokem +3

    I love this subject, mainly because it is both quite recent and revolutionary, in a way, as well as rather easily understood by a teenager. Every now and again I talk about it to my students, and it is usually well received.

  • @mastergmatquant
    @mastergmatquant Před 2 lety +1

    Just loved the video man! awesome it was.

  • @simongross3122
    @simongross3122 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent discussion, thank you. Also what a mensch Kolmogorov is. Good to see, and thanks for telling us about it.

  • @KnakuanaRka
    @KnakuanaRka Před 2 lety +104

    I feel like when you were talking about big O, there were some big aspects you missed. In particular, one of the big reasons big O is important is that it better measures how an algorithm scales to extremely large inputs.
    While the big O might not be able to tell you an exact runtime, it can tell you how that runtime changes when you change the input. For example, for an O(n) algorithm, doubling the size of the input make it take twice as long as before, while an O(n^2) algorithm will take 4 times as long, and an O(log n) algorithm will only take a constant amount of time more. The ways that different algorithms scale tends to be more important than any constant factors when n is extremely large.
    For example, the runtime of an O(n) algorithm might be like 10n, while an O(n^2) algorithm might be n^2/10; with small n, the O(n) algorithm is slower due to the high overhead (for n=4, the first algorithm is 40 while the second is 1.6), but as n increases, the difference in powers rapidly overcomes the constant factors (for n=10,000, it’s 100,000 versus 10,000,000, so the first is a hundred times faster). That’s why we talk about big O in algorithms; when the input is big enough that runtime is a concern, that’s what gives you a real idea of the runtime.

    • @awogbob
      @awogbob Před 2 lety +4

      Wow this makes waaaay more sense

    • @RobBCactive
      @RobBCactive Před 2 lety +1

      An O(log n) algorithm isn't constant, but would be proportional to natural logarithm, O (n log n) is more feasible as just processing the input is O(n).

    • @KnakuanaRka
      @KnakuanaRka Před 2 lety +14

      @@RobBCactive I wasn’t saying log n was constant time; I was saying for a log n algorithm, doubling the input length would increase the time by a constant amount, since log 2n = log n + log 2.

    • @RobBCactive
      @RobBCactive Před 2 lety +1

      @@KnakuanaRka No you specifically said, "and an O(log n) algorithm will only take a constant amount of time more", read your post adding log 2 or log 3 to log n for factors of N is NOT a constant

    • @KnakuanaRka
      @KnakuanaRka Před 2 lety +14

      @@RobBCactive Well, if log n is the runtime for input of length N, adding log 2 for the runtime of 2N is effectively a constant amount more (since it doesn’t depend on N); what’s the problem?

  • @Fowly-Fr
    @Fowly-Fr Před 2 lety +4

    That was fascinating, thank you

  • @science9181
    @science9181 Před 2 lety +1

    Outstanding explanation! Thank you!

  • @stankoo1413
    @stankoo1413 Před 2 lety +2

    Even if this video doesn't blow up it is still amazing content, thanks!

  • @pianowhizz
    @pianowhizz Před 2 lety +20

    I believe Karatsuba's algorithm is used in quantum computing as the current fastest/most efficient method of multiplication.

  • @spiikesan
    @spiikesan Před 2 lety +39

    This algorithm is used in Java's implementation of BigDecimals (or BigIntegers ?) for very big numbers.

  • @neilshen759
    @neilshen759 Před 2 lety +2

    Nice video! Really liked the smooth animation

  • @cowlegacy
    @cowlegacy Před 2 lety +1

    This was super interesting thanks for uploading, I will be watching you form now on

  • @HWMREWesker
    @HWMREWesker Před 2 lety +39

    Just a heads up - there's a terminology mistake at 1:00 . "Addition" should be translated as "Сложение" in Russian, while "Дополнение" in English would be "Complement" term from Set Theory.

  • @SrIgort
    @SrIgort Před 2 lety +3

    Really cool seeing that discoveries in mathematics are still being done to this day :)

    • @schweinmachtbree1013
      @schweinmachtbree1013 Před 2 lety +1

      discoveries in math are being done every day - mathematics is so much more than just arithmetic!

  • @rik0904
    @rik0904 Před 2 lety +2

    i kind of understood this. thank you for this video. I often come back to your first video when i need inspiration how to change way of thinking when i search for answer.

  • @Kubonka_
    @Kubonka_ Před 2 lety +2

    The cadence and tone of your voice is very pleasant to listen to. It reminds me of the JCS channel.
    Thank you very much for teaching me with such detailed and illustrative information.

  • @algorithminc.8850
    @algorithminc.8850 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you ... great explanation ... interesting history ...

  • @sergeytaranov2015
    @sergeytaranov2015 Před 2 lety +9

    Great video! And as a Russian-speaking person I want to notice that mathematical operation "addition" is called "сложение" not "дополнение". The term's you used meaning is "a minor member of a sentence, usually expressed as a noun". Best Regards!

    • @RFC-3514
      @RFC-3514 Před rokem

      дополнение means "addition" in the sense of supplement or expansion (i.e., it would be used in sentences like "the addition of a new terminal to the airport", or "with added vitamins").

  • @andersjjensen
    @andersjjensen Před 2 lety +1

    Fascinating! Keep 'em coming! :D

  • @sseim5654
    @sseim5654 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for posting this.

  • @NigelTolley
    @NigelTolley Před 2 lety +3

    That was brilliant. And actually taught me new maths too.

  • @taureon_
    @taureon_ Před 2 lety +3

    i thought this account exists just to post one vid and nothing else, nice to see a new upload!

  • @aytunch
    @aytunch Před 2 lety +2

    Great video
    Please make more videos about algorithms and the history behind them
    perfecto

  • @sreenathc
    @sreenathc Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing video…..so beautifully explained!

  • @NZAnimeManga
    @NZAnimeManga Před 2 lety +3

    Excellent video!!

  • @poopfartlord9695
    @poopfartlord9695 Před 2 lety +27

    I just had an assignment implementing school method addition, subtraction and then karatsuba. Although trivial I probably would have enjoyed it more having watched this video.
    Also, if anyone knows what software this guy uses for his visualisations it'd be greatly appreciated, I feel like some evolutionary computation concepts could make really good videos.

  • @jonathanross6260
    @jonathanross6260 Před rokem +2

    Hahaha I loved your inverse FFT notation. Well played, well played.

  • @Wecoc1
    @Wecoc1 Před 2 lety +2

    I'm just discovering this channel now. Nice stuff!

  • @TymexComputing
    @TymexComputing Před 2 lety +3

    In the time when Kolmogorov was at the age of Karatsuba (when they met) there was no Fast Fourier Transform, but on the other hand Parseval theorem was already stated in the 18th century - kids read the books and study them ! :)

  • @anthonykeller5120
    @anthonykeller5120 Před rokem +4

    Hmmm…reminds me of another algorithm dealing with linear programming (LP). LP is theoretically a N^x steps where x is the number variables. There is a Russian algorithm that has O(N) steps, but the slope of T (time) is so steep it might as well be a quadratic equation. I wrote a paper on this 40 years ago for one of CS Master’s classes after reading about it in a programming journal. The math was so obscure (or maybe the Russian was so obscure) that I had to go back to the original paper to get the algorithm correct. It was a fun project, as I was really interested in linear programming at the time. Seems I fell in love with CAD, though.

  • @chrise202
    @chrise202 Před 2 lety

    These series are addictive. Please more!!

  • @sargentscythe
    @sargentscythe Před 2 lety +2

    Another fantastic video!

  • @beltramejp
    @beltramejp Před 2 lety +5

    Since your fast SQRT video I was waiting until your next lauch. This video gave me a thousand goosebumps, incredible! Good job

  • @knightofvirtue613
    @knightofvirtue613 Před 2 lety +13

    I looked at this video on a random whim and I'm glad i did! Very well explained video on a topic that can be difficult to follow.
    As others have mentioned, practical examples may have worked better than the colored blocks used, as this would allow the audience to follow along in an easier fashion.
    Thanks!

  • @ear4funk814
    @ear4funk814 Před rokem

    Great explanation of a complex subject ... well done!

  • @JonathanMandrake
    @JonathanMandrake Před 2 lety +1

    We learned the Karatsuba Method last week in Numerics, so this was an interesting new take on the way we learned it

  • @olenaerhardt7725
    @olenaerhardt7725 Před 2 lety +5

    When some individuals multiply 6 digits numbers fast mentally, do they use any of those algorithms intuitively? Is something known about the phenomenon from that point of view nowadays? I know (from discussions with my friend mathematician), that usually those individuals are lacking logic till the extend that they can't do anything in the area of mathematics. Not always it is the case though. And probably the brightest example of combination of both skills (means lightning mental computations ability and logic) would be the famous mathematician John von Newmann. His mental computational abilities were such that people who had a lucky opportunity to communicate with him had impression that they are dealing with an extraterrestrial (he could add up series mentally and everything alike) and not a human. Thank you very much for this great film.

  • @notbob9865
    @notbob9865 Před 2 lety +4

    Return of the king

  • @secularph8424
    @secularph8424 Před 2 lety +1

    Legend ,
    Pls do more of these type.

  • @mr2octavio
    @mr2octavio Před 2 lety +2

    Another fantastic video my friend

  • @perrydimes6915
    @perrydimes6915 Před 2 lety +12

    Excellent video. I was always fascinated by these "dynamic programming" style algorithms. They appear everywhere.
    Of course I'm just a rando on the internet, but I think such a video on the evolution of matrix multiplication would be equally if not more interesting. Strassen (the same one you mentioned) played a role there too, and a similar (sort of) trick is used in that case. However such a video would probably be extremely long since it's still an open question. Then again, even this video covers an impressive scope.

    • @Nemean
      @Nemean  Před 2 lety +6

      You're not the only one who recommended matrix multiplication, but I'm not so convinced. Strassen's algorithm is a similar idea to Karatsuba's (instead of 3 digits expressed as a combination of 3 products, it's 8 matrices expressed as 7 products) and the more sophisticated optimisations use tensors heavily and I don't know how to easily explain that (yet). I'll have to think about it.

    • @JCrashB
      @JCrashB Před 2 lety +2

      @@Nemean I already read that in your soothing voice, so please think some more about it ;).
      Subbed your channel btw, eagerly awaiting more content. You rock!

  • @controlflow89
    @controlflow89 Před 2 lety +4

    Epic video, товарищ! :)

    • @Nemean
      @Nemean  Před 2 lety +3

      spatsiba or whatever

  • @toskium
    @toskium Před 2 lety +2

    I really enjoyed your video, I can only encourage you to publish more content like this.

  • @darianharrison4836
    @darianharrison4836 Před rokem

    Love the explanation, thanks !

  • @rhythmepaper
    @rhythmepaper Před 2 lety +3

    I smashed subscribe button. No doubt.
    What a quality algorithm explanation.

  • @ashhadnaqavi
    @ashhadnaqavi Před 2 lety +3

    very interesting and informative video

  • @totheknee
    @totheknee Před rokem

    18:00 - For smaller numbers...
    Lololllol 🤣
    I love your delivery. Pure gold.

  • @thinotmandresy
    @thinotmandresy Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome video! I just found this channel now thanks to the algorithm. I'm subscribing right away!

  • @SurfinScientist
    @SurfinScientist Před 2 lety +3

    That was a fun video! (said by a Theoretical Computer Scientist / Mathematician)

  • @TheCreator1197
    @TheCreator1197 Před 2 lety +7

    Omg, Kolmogorov is the real MVP! So impressed that he actually went so far for a student rather than claiming all the credit for himself!

  • @Labergemusic
    @Labergemusic Před 2 lety +1

    You delivered! Thanks this is awesome.

  • @muhammadsanjarafaq914
    @muhammadsanjarafaq914 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for making a video on this.