2017 Chevy Bolt EV: 4th Set of Tires at 171,000 Miles
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- I just installed my fourth set of tires on my Chevy Bolt EV, and wouldn't you know it, I went back to the original Michelin Energy Saver A/S. These continue to be the most efficient tire option, and I have no complaints about them overall. The previous Continental Pure Contact started leaking air with no obvious punctures; otherwise, they would have had enough tread to last another couple thousand miles.
If that is your 4th set then you have only used 3 sets to get 171,000 miles since the new set has not been used yet. That means you are getting around 57,000 miles per set. That is remarkable on an EV.
It sounds like the sidewall materials had met the limit of their designed stress cycles. Sidewall material integrity failure is more hazardous than tread wear, because the tire will just slip off the rim.
Hi, another original 2017 owner here. Think that I bought the first Bolt sold east of the Mississippi back in Feb. '17. 130,000+ miles now. Similar experience with he PureContacts. I got 70K on the OEM Michelins. Went to the PureContacts and realized that 5% drop in efficiency and the handling and traction was only slightly improved subjectively. I run the Michelin XICE-3 in the winter and get better efficiency with the snow tires in the colder weather than I do with the PureContacts in the summer. Can't wait 'till I can get back on the AS Energy Savers, truly the gold standard for efficiency to the general public.
Sweet! Congrats on your long running Bolt EV! I'm going to try to post a 7 year update soon.
I have a 2017 Bolt EV Premier actually same color as yours. I have been following your channel since you started with the Bolt EV starting with the flat tire. I purchased mine in September 2017. I still love it. I don’t do the kind of long distance driving you have in the past. With the combination of retiring and COVID years my mileage is fairly low , just under 50K. My battery was replaced as part of the recall in March 2022. I had to replace my Michelins at 36K due to low grip in heavy rain conditions. I still choose the same tire for my second set and no complaints. I plan on keeping mine at least eight years and might past it on to the grandkids.
If the Ultium platform proves to be great, I’ll likely follow up with a 2025 Blazer EV or Equinox EV. For now the Bolt EV is my main vehicle.
Keep up the reports.😊
Thank you for following all this time. Somehow, I can't find that original footage with the blowout (I was going to reference it here). I also haven't been driving as much thanks to work from home, but that might be changing soon.
The Bolt EV is also coming back as an Ultium platform with LFP batteries, so I'm going to be keeping a very close eye on both it and the Equinox EV. I think the Blazer EV is stylish, but it's priced beyond my budget. I'll still try to get one to review.
New bolt - I expect an e u v possibly shorter range, faster DC charging, no apple carplay, no Android auto I don't think I will regret getting my 23 bolt EV
@@rp9674 I don’t like the idea of eliminating Android Auto and Apple CarPlay. I don’t want my data sitting in my vehicle for a nosy valet or service person to access. I have no idea what kind of safeguards will be in place. It looks like another data grab by GM unfortunately. I like the idea of having Android Automotive in the car for the Navigation app to have access to actual vehicle status (real-time power consumption etc.) for next charging stop and help with preconditioning before a charging stop.
Since the Cadillac Lyriq has Android Automotive as well as Android Auto & Apple CarPlay. I hope Chevy will change their position and provide both apps later after protests from the user community. If they don’t it may be a deal breaker for me.
@@newscoulomb3705 I miss those great road trip videos, they're fun to watch on a Saturday morning with a cup of coffee. I bought my Bolt in early 2021 after researching people's experiences, including yours. While I would love longer driving range and faster charging for the many road trips that I take, the reliability of this vehicle and low cost per mile to operate is second to none, which I'm very happy about. Also, thanks to this channel I've learned about how to charge optimally. 👍 That said, if they ever make it to market with the reasonably priced Equinox EV I'll jump at the chance for AWD, more range, and faster charging without breaking the bank.
That is pretty good tire mileage for any car. Just did a oil change on a 2019 Dodge Journey an noticed the tires were nearly bald at just 36k miles, all 4 were pretty evenly worn so it didn't look like an alignment issue. I mentioned it when he got the car back and said he knew and would buy tires soon. Our Ioniq 5 has nearly as many miles at 34k and they look great, should get 45-50k on the original set.
Curious behavior on the Continentals! All your tires have performed well for the Bolt. Impressive mileage on the car. Enjoyed hearing how things are going.
Thanks, Bruce! I hope I can get back to posting more videos and updates soon.
Another gr8 video as usual, sir. Keep them coming. I too got some brand new tires on my Bolt EV. That's because after almost a year of waiting I finally took delivery of a 2023 Bolt EV last week. I thought this day would never come. I'm super thrilled. I look forward to your next video. 🚙 🇺🇸 🔌
Thank you!
Nixon is having problems. That was perfect! 😂 Thanks for the update; looks like Michelin for my EUV when the tires wear out. Thanks for your channel, as well.
Thank you! I couldn't help the Nixon dig. 😀
@@newscoulomb3705, It was the laugh that I needed. And, like I said, just perfect 😂
I’ve been happy with the OEM tire. 120,000 miles. just ordered my 3rd set.
Charge on!
Sweet! Thanks for that update!
I'm still on the stock tires on my Bolt (28,000km) and I've been quite happy with them. I see complaints online all the time from people saying they're terrible (for grip mostly), but I have found the grip to be just fine in all conditions, and as you say the efficiency is excellent and so far they're wearing really well.
Thank you! I think people might be coming from performance cars or performance tires, and some of that is reflected in their tire life. However, in my experience, these Michelins provide more than enough grip for daily driving.
Welcome back Eric....I'd love to see a video on Heater/AC consumption and efficiency...Facts and Myths about it.. Thanks for the update man hope all is well with the family
Thank you! We're heading into winter, so that's definitely a possible topic to cover.
I don't have a right to say it, living in southern california, but I don't care about a heat pump (vs $).
@@rp9674 Then why say it? You realize there are people in Southern California who live in mountain communities like Big Bear right? They might be considering buying a used Bolt and want to know the consumption details from a guy with knowledge like Eric. Try not to be so selfish with knowledge…if you can.
Since you are at EVgo - they told me in writing last week that all their chargers under 200kW that were capable of simultaneous charging are in the process of being converted to one car at a time. Guess our Leaf will no longer be sharing 100kW Deltas with Bolts. I don't know how much this matters, since there usually is not enough parking for 2 cars to share, but it was handy when adjacent dispensers were down.
I will never buy another set of Continentals - poor warranty service even with full dealer support for defect case.
Oh, interesting. Thanks for the update. As you noted, it's probably not a huge deal because they typically only allocate one parking stall per 100 kW dispenser, but it was nice to have the option. This particular site would benefit by replacing the two 50 kW with two 100 kW and using the other two spaces for a split-power 350 kW. Hopefully, they consider doing that.
As for the Continentals, these were my second set. The ones on the Volt seem to still be holding up fine, but I hardly drive the Volt anymore.
Pretty good going for the amount of Interstate driving your Bolt has done over the years. We got 38,000 out of our first set on the Ioniq 5, which were also Michelins (Primacy all-season). The second set are Continentals and are supposed to be a bit harder-wearing, but we'll see how they go through to 75K and, hopefully, some way beyond. We're adding an extra 1,000 lbs or o and an extra motor over the Bolt, though, so no great surprise that it needs new boots more quickly.
I'm half on my first set of tires with 36,000 miles. I don't count the craptacular Michelin "self sealing" (in extremely limited circumstances) tires that my car came with my car because I replaced those after just ~500 miles.
Replaced them with Kumho Ecsta PS31 (summer tires) and those were going well until this spring when I damaged one tire (sidewall bulge) on a nasty pothole. Ended up replacing two of them with two more PS31s at that time because they were more than 50% worn. I'll probably replace the other two some time in the next 18 months. I do drive my tires down to the wear bars but I don't want to let them get bald.
I wish that there were energy saving/eco focused/LRR summer tires but I haven't found any. I estimate I take about a 10% efficiency hit running these tires but in exchange I get MUCH MUCH better wet and dry traction plus lower road noise compared to the Michelins.
I think that one of the tradeoffs you get with energy saving tires is they are less durable thanks to thinner (weaker) sidewalls which makes the tires lighter. Not that regular tires are immune to damage from road hazards as I found out but I do believe that in general they are going to be more durable.
Yes. I had that blowout in the first couple hundred miles on my Bolt EV after hitting a rock. The entire sidewall ripped open, but to your point, that might have happened on other tires as well. Plus, most of my miles are on California highways, so the additional performance and traction might not be a huge benefit to me.
Great videos and very informative. You really helped me with my research on the z Bolt. I ended up buying a 2023 Bolt EUV Premier last week. I drove it from Long Beach to Placerville. I only charged it twice. I was averaging 4.1 khw. I then drove west to Willits on hwy 20. I'll be driving back to Long Beach tomorrow. I love this car, the only drawback is the charging station reliability.
Awesome! Congratulations on your EUV. I'm really hoping to see some improvements in charger reliability and charging options soon.
My general experience with Continentals over the years- their better tires are designed for a soft, comfortable ride, and don’t expect them to last very long.
Nice to hear from you.
Thank you!
Wow! Congrats on hitting your fourth set of tires with the Bolt. Also thanks for sharing your experience so far. I just got my second Bolt, and something about these cars is just very endearing, despite some of their faults. Looking forward to more updates!
Thanks! Welcome back Eric. I am running 2 sets of tires. The winter tires are great in the rain (directional Goodyear). Otherwise I am using the Michelins too.
Thank you so much! I think I might get a second set of tires soon, too. I'll keep everyone posted when I do.
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I just replaced the stock Michelin ASRs on my Model 3, with Sailun Erange ASRs. Other user reports state about 5-7% gain in efficiency and my initial impressions bear this out. They are quieter and give a smoother ride at the same pressure.
Thanks for the information! Which Michelin tires did your Model 3 have? My understanding is they use either the MXM4 or the Primacy. Neither are as efficient as the Energy Savers. I'll have to keep an eye out for the Sailun Erange tires.
@@newscoulomb3705 I think they were Michelin Primacy MXM4s 18in 235/45s (They still have some life left and I put them into our storage locker so I can confirm later). The Erange tires were also quite a bit less expensive than the Michelins.
The Michelin Energy Saver tires with the goo inside are worth the extra expense. I ran over and shattered a glass bottle that some derelict left in the mall parking lot and the tires were fine. No leaks or anything.
Thanks. Yes, I think they would do well with that, but I've always kept a patch kit in the car. Anything the goo would stop I could fix with a patch kit, so I feel like the goo is a bit redundant. When I had a blowout, none of that really mattered, and only a spare would have worked in that situation.
Hi Eric - my 2017 Premier has 101k miles on it currently. I really like the Michelin tires that came with the Bolts, despite their tendency to slip rather easily, and I attribute much of that to the torque available at a stop in this car. I’m about halfway through the 2nd full set, with 2 of the originals making it to 77k miles, so they do give a long life. I did have a valve stem leak on one of the tires that were pulled off at 77k, since the problem continued into the new tire, but was later fixed. We have an occasional stiff steering (rack), and the HV battery was replaced. Sticky calipers caused me to update the brakes at about 94k miles. Otherwise, it’s still a great little runabout, with no end in sight for our usage.
I've been wondering if the brakes need an occasional lubrication of moving parts Kama obviously not pads and rotors
@@rp9674- Knowing what I know now, I’d recommend caliper removal and slide (way) cleaning about every 2 years - make sure the calipers don’t stick.
Sigh Eric, I’m on my 4th set of tires at 75k miles. A Taycan does not seem as gentle on them. But it’s been my only expense.
Yes, I can imagine. Especially running on a softer, grippier rubber with a lot more power.
oh thats not your ONLY expense.....go check your resale value.
Interested in you talking about bolt problems over the years and miles. drive on
Thanks! I don't have a lot to talk about in terms of issues, but I'll try to put a list together. Maybe follow up on my 7-year update.
Nice hearing how things are going with your bolts and that it's still going strong. Nice to see the Michelin Energy Savers getting some of the props that I think they deserve. I was hoping given the amount of mountain driving that you do that you might be giving the Michelin cross climate 2's a try. Would have loved to see how they might have worked for you.
Thanks! I might end up getting a separate set of winter tires, depending on how things go, but I'm not sure of what I would get yet. I'm leaning toward Nokian.
I just replaced my tires on my 2017 Bolt Premier a few days ago! Got a Walmart black friday special for $75/tire on Reliant Goodyear tires. These are my second set replaced at 54k miles (could of gone a little further on old tires but wanted the sale price). I don't think they are quite as efficient as my original stock tires. However on the stocks if I took a corner too fast/sharp or accelerated to fast they would squeal/slip. My goodyear tires are very "sticky" and grip really well. I can corner, and accelerate way better than the stock tires. Though not as efficient, they hold the car to the road much better. Other than the price, I also feel a little safer in these, and can have more fun.... ;)
I had the same problem with charging when I was at Willow. You just can't trust Nixon. (haha)
Hahaha! Indeed. Maybe they should replace Nixon with Ford. 😁
You wouldn't have Nixon to kick around anymore
I thought my car was dirty.... I did the same as you with my second set, stock tires but without the self sealing goo. My first set lasted just shy of 60,000 miles due to a puncture. I think that they would have lasted 60K if I hadn't picked up some road debris.
Yeah, I just took a back road (dirt/gravel). Good to hear about your results. I think with normal driving, 60k should be possible with these tires.
I’m starting to look into tires for my Volt, and it seems like Michelin Energy Savers are the efficiency standard. I would’ve preferred Goodyear still made the updated OEM tires for the Volt, but I probably can’t complain much about the Michelins.
I think you'll be happy with the Michelins. It's really hard to go wrong with their tires, but you have to go in with proper expectations. Personally, I wasn't a huge fan of the stock Goodyears for the Volt.
@@newscoulomb3705 The first versions of the OEM Goodyears for the Volt had issues with their sidewalls. The updated versions I bought in 2016/17 didn’t have sidewall issues, and were just as efficient.
Awesome
Appreciate the real life opinion
Thank you!
Great to see you back ! Informative as always !
I replaced my Bolt with a Tesla though.
i just bought a 2017 bolt with 23k miles an for 16k$..... the ride is a little rough so im gonna change to a 15x7 wheel,,, an add more tire,... like a 205. 65.15 for more tire for a better ride...
If you do, I'd love to hear how it works out! I've wondered how oversized diameter would affectEVs. I suspect slower acceleration slightly better range. I have a 23 Bolt EV, I think the ride is softer.
Appreciate the information, ive got a 2017 bolt also with 142 000 m going to need new summer tires soon as for right now im running studded winters. Was wondering what to get for tires. Thanks for the information
Eric that’s great! Any maintenance updates or fixes on the car? I’m at 52k miles on my ‘20 putting off the battery replacement
Thanks. Not really. It's all be routine maintenance other than the software updates and battery recall. I'm still on my stock brakes as well.
@@newscoulomb3705 amazing. hope I have a similar experience
my take.... tires have one main function and that is to let a vehicle roll on down the road. plenty of factors go into that rolling. BUT that is the primary function. so i weighed in cost, rolling resistance, tread thickness (longevity), temp rating and traction (also plays big part in longevity). my findings are that lower cost tires with good tread thickness and lower traction rating (B is good enough) by far in the end will save me more money than buying expensive EV tires. Sure in an emergency if i have to slam on brakes it might take an extra 20 feet to stop. I avoid those emergencies by situational awareness. leave early or on time when going somewhere and you too will see you can drive normal(saving more juice to keep you rolling longer). in nut shell, drive normal, get good lasting inexpensive tires and you will save $$ for that freaking latte.
hello, did you get the batterie changed or are you still using tha one that originaly came with the car ??? im buying a 2021 in a couple of weeks and this was just the kind of video i was looking for. very informative keep going new sub here.
Water bottle with a bit of soap in it and sprayed all over looking for the leak? Could have been the valve stem being dirty if not the tire.
It's possible, but the tire shop couldn't find anything either. Also, the new Michelins have the same valve stems, and they haven't lost air yet.
That is remarkable considering that Tesla is known to wear their tires much faster (around 30K)
The car just keeps on running
Love your videos! I recently put Michelin Cross Climate 2's on my Chevy Blazer. Do you think I'm going to regret that?
[23 Bolt EV] I wonder how the lane keep assist ping-ponging will affect tire wear. My Fiat 500e was a real Tire spinner, Bolt feels mild by comparison.
I'm not getting self-sealing for my next set I'm curious about E-range. I wonder if any have foam rubber liner sound insulation like Tesla tires?
I also carry tire patch kit, should check the glue periodically. Tire shop tells me punctures need to be sealed on the inside to prevent moisture seeping in, sounds unlikely. Americas Tire wins every time. I want to save a worn tire for backup since they usually have to order, up to 4 days.
I have a question for the host, did you updated your software on the Bolt?
It was updated during a recall about 5 years ago, and I assume updated again during the battery replacement (at least up to whatever is most current). My Bolt EV is still missing some of the software features from the 2019+ Bolt EVs, though, such as Target Charge Level.
Hey I got a Chevy bolt ev 2023 , I was told I can put Firestone SuperDrive sport , what do you think
What problems have you had with the Bolt? Steering rack original? Thanks
I haven't had any major issues with the Bolt EV. Everything that's been done on it was either required by recall or basic maintenance.
@@newscoulomb3705 Nice