Is A CERTIFIED Technician Worth It?
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Eric Davis I think I could do a tune up on a 9.8 MERC ( Aaron I bet you haven’t heard that in a long time 9.8 MERC way back in the day if you had a outboard of ten horse or bigger you had to register your boat with the state so outboard manufactures would build just under 10 hp )ok I forgot what I was saying to the point John to the point so I figure I’m half certified on my etec. I was raised Evinrude I have tools ( really have my brother aka the beard of knowledge) I have factory service manuals and Evinrude Diagnoistic program to run codes. But I have trim seal and factory four pin wrench and and still scared to open so my brother said leave it till starts leaking. The upper part I think the scraper part is coming apart so anyway I’m not certified to to do anything well maybe I going to make my passenger interior side panel out of 1708 and resin todayok maybe that’s about it nice video Aaron BAB OF THE GREAT STATE OF FLORIDA
JT 🇺🇸🇺🇸🐟🐠🎣🛥🌴⛱😊😊🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I’ve taken my whole 250 Mercury apart watching his videos. Removed the powerhead and all. Then sold the boat for more than I bought it for.
Yessir
Cheap labor isn’t skilled and skilled labor isn’t cheap!
Love this
You've spent a ton of money to become certified. You have to make it back.
Certified people are the way to go.
I work as a fleet mechanic for the city where I live, I work mostly on garbage trucks and when I don't know how a system works or know how to fix something my boss tells me "figure it out" and I get paid per hour so I basically get paid to learn and then fix stuff all day it's awesome!!
Once again you hit the nail on the head thank you
I found your channel about 2 months ago and have found your videos extremely helpful. As a retired chiller technician with 40 years of experience, I know first hand about experience. What you say is so true, you get what you pay for. When you pay top dollar for a certified tech, it is reasonable to expect the best service. I send a big Thank You for this channel. Thanks to your videos, I now know what I can be comfortable working on and when I would need to seek a Certified Technician. I know I can't do everything, but I can do a lot.
I am a merc certified technician but not master tech (yet). It basically comes down to experience and a love and interest of what you do. I definitely don't know everything but I use the mercury university online site all the time to inform myself for specific information. I also spend nights at home reading through engine service and workshop manuals to be able to help my customers so they don't pay for my lack of knowledge in certain areas.
But as the old saying goes you never stop learning and that's my motto.
Thanks again for explaining this point of sales to the perhaps uninformed people out there.
Awesome!
I just bought a pair of brand new 350 Verados to replace my 05 250 Verados. Now my boat's powered perfectly!
@@benjigans1419 How it's working for you?
@@bunnyman6321 still running strong!
@@benjigans1419 💯
Factory certification is very important and worth money. However marina labor rates are outrageous and unfortunately the tech only gets paid a small fraction.
Love this channel, super interesting subjects
Glad to hear it!
yes i considered paying airfare for BAB to tune my outboard, honest workmanship is priceless
Helping the algorithm, great content
Glad you enjoy it!
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You don't want a table dance from a girl right out of pole dancing school.
Absolutely LOVE THIS!!! This school year I am going towards Marine Technician and I loved watching this because of how much it helps! Please keep these videos up and keep doing the great job! If you could do more like these that would be awesome! Thanks!
Good luck!!
Please work in the field first. You’ll learn a ton more when at achool
Thanks always for all the info that you provide to us
My pleasure!
As usual excellent video, many readers are in trades and understand "professionalism" and the years to get there.
But the true art and knowledge comes with proper troubleshooting.
When you understand systems and how they work you can troubleshoot about anything.
But you have to follow the steps.
30 plus aviation technician and always learning still.
Great video! You helped me a lot with my new boat.
Cool, thanks!
Thxs Again for Smart, Applicable advice.
Another great video as always. When I was in the Navy and then the Merchant Marine, when you were working for a good company, they would send you to any school you wanted to go to pretty much as long as you worked hard for them, some of those diesel technology schools can get pretty pricey.
Thanks!
Great video.....I like what you said about experience too, in my experiences and opinions, the experience goes a lot longer than a certification. The certificate is just saying you're educated about it and can be trusted.
Great channel, well done!
Thank you very much!
Great video and as a seasoned master tech I couldn’t agree more.
Interesting stuff. 👍
Great video. Good to hear you’re a Master Technician.
Thanks 👍
Love the natural narration 🤙🏻 good video
Thank you 😊
Great video Bro! My personal experience has not been good, there are great marine mechanics out there. But to find one of them can get really costly, specially here in the Florida Keys, by the time you find out that they are no good they already sucked your wallet dry. So the only way to find a great mechanic is by word of mouth, from someone who you can trust that has used their services more than once.
All so very true!!
Cool vid bro
Hello there born again. You seem very knowledgeable on many topics I've encountered in the past while working on my own boat. I current keep my boat in Key Largo, and noticed in your videos, you're in the keys as well. How would I get your info to have you perform work on my boat, and does your yard have haul out capabilities? Thanks for all the great videos, and keep them coming!
Good work ain’t cheap and cheap work ain’t good!
Any chance y’all could do a video on common hang up points in boating projects? Number 1 being how to remove a stuck woodroof key
I am Mercury Outboard Certified. I achieved it through Lakes Region Community College as an Associates College Degree. I was part of the first ever group of people to get Mercury Outboard certified and there was an article written about my friend on it. I wasn't credited nor was one other guy but my friend deserves it. We worked together in 2 different in person courses and nailed it in the class.
Since then I have been working at a Boatyard since May of 2021 at a Honda dealership as a Yard crew. I'm currently trying my hardest to land a job at a Mercury Dealership that's closer to where I live and enjoy working on engines I was trained to work on. If I get this job I'm currently in talks with, I would be very happy because I was wearing my Mercury hats and I've always loved Mercury outboards when I was growing up. My former boss believes in me and I want to make him proud. He have me a snap on gift card for graduating and a harbor freight gift card for getting certified. So I know I have people supporting me and my passion. I just hope I fall to the hands of the right people and hope my certification finally pays off!
You get the job?
@@bunnyman6321 I did! As a yard guy for now but I like this place way better.
@@Tylnorton Congratulations
@@bunnyman6321 Thanks man!
@@Tylnorton You're welcome!
Not only Manufacturer components certification but ABYC certification is necessary. ABYC has not only safety but reliability in their standards. Especially with electrical which can be the number one cause of boat fires.
I really wanted to be a tech in HS but because my grades were good everyone pushed me to go into electrical engineering… and years later I like what I do but I always love when I work on my boat or my friends boats.
Marine electrician here, the only thing I certify is that check book. 😘
Working towards Toyota master... and if it's for pay, I only want to touch a Toyota. If its mine... I can fix anything.
Keep it up!!!
Aaron 💯🎣🐟💘😜
Always!
There is no time compression algorithm for experience. Years of dirty fingernails will never be replaced with a written test. Thanks for this. While it doesn't hurt any less to have to shell out top dollar for top talent your video is a great education on what it takes to become Master Certified.
There’s plenty of people who have several decades in the industry and are completely retarded. Just look at the service manger at Marine max in Clearwater. Look at the service manager at LMC in houston.
Depends. I can do basic service: oil, plugs, water (impeller) pump, filters etc. I can’t rebuild my leaking lower unit. I paid a pro to do that.
Awesome videos! I'm currently going to school to become a marine tech.
You can do it!
Love you guys. There isn’t a second of your work that isn’t carefully done as part of a whole. Besides your skill you have so much talent for this craft. On topic though, while agree with your points…. How much does a ten year experienced tech learn from the certification training? And in these times a big problem are businesses relying on high rates over selling the competence of the techs coming in and out on a revolving door. Anybody hired a plumber at $250 only to find out the fix is all over You Tube but the plumber had never seen the problem before? Keep the good work coming!
Thank you and True! That's a tough subject, a big problem these days with the rolling through of inexperienced mechanics or those that just want to turn out the boats, regardless of if it's truly fixed or not. I think the certification programs are great, but its the real world experience that makes the best techs :/ we'll probably talk about this on the podcast: czcams.com/channels/6Y2xnr23ERD2n_t51Jv4-Q.html
thank you for the algorithm
;) thanks!
I am an ABYC Certified Master Marine Technician, some people care, but most people couldn't give 2 cents.
The key to expenses, buy a boat that you can maintain, buy a simple engine you can fix! Best example are the new common rail computerized Yanmar diesel engines that need a tech and a laptop to fix. Not easy to find in remote areas of the world, and certainly not cheap to fly someone in! Keep it simple, learn how to maintain and fix or say goodbye to a lot of money!
It’s great that the techs are certified, but when a company charges 120/hr and the actual tech gets paid 30/hr is where I have a problem.
The mercury dealer I take my boat to charges $125 per hour to do my boat- they're also #20 in Top 100 Boat dealers by Boating Industry for many years in a row. My tech gets paid $28/hr so I know exactly what you're thinking!
$30/hr is $62,000. More than most make. I don't see a problem with that.
Where I live, most techs are making $17/hr...
@@hoyay850 you don't see the problem, nor his point! Lol!
Im the highest experience tech at my dealer and i make $30 an hour. We charge $110 an hour.
I understand why the company i work for makes so much more than i because i know how expensive it is to run this business.
$4000 in the last month in forklift repairs, $5000 a month rent for our building, paying the office people, taxes, electricity, etc etc
@@hoyay850 you’re missing the point. The tech pays for school and the 50k in tools. The shop makes 100+/hr off of the techs knowledge, certification and tools. Make friends with the tech at your marina/dealer and pay them cash on the side!
A good tech is where you find him. It boils down to does he care. There are bad ones and good ones at dealers and other places. It is a lot harder for an independent guy to get all the information he needs to work because so much is closely held and proprietary. Some areas just don't have good dealers to work for that will pay a liveable wage to their employees. Like he said experience is a massive part of the equation.
I like the video before even watching it 😊
I love doing the work myself, but there is a limit as to what I can do comfortably. At present I have and water leak into my oil, small leak but a leak all the same. Salt water is no good especially. So off to a certified out board smart guy here I come. Wish I could bring it down to you, but it would be about a 8 hr. Drive. 😟 Here comes the wallet and lots of BIG bills. Not looking forward to it. Thanks for making me feel comfortable with this Arron. Stay safe out there. 👍🌴😎.
Hi Aaron, this is great information! We have some good mechanics in our area. Some say they are Yamaha 'certified' techs. Some say 'master-techs'. I don't know how to verify what level they are at.... I'm willing to pay the proper amount for the right level of training, but I don't know how to verify that. Does Yamaha have list of their trained techs online? And at what level they have been certified at?
Could you put out a video of best tools to get started as a technician. Mainly larger 4-strokes dealing with computers and the necessary diagnostic tools to even start to trouble shooting. Obviously you can diagnose without all the fancy gear, but to an extent. When power, spark, fuel, air and water cooling aren’t the issue. Love your video and definitely have learned a lot overtime from you. Thank you
Basically just the quickest best tool to run diagnostics.
Videos have been an inspo! Just started a project and found a smaller than finger nail sized hull hole... best way to patch something this small? Fiberglass repair kit type thing or something else?!?
Marine Tex. I fill small holes in fiberglass with it all the time.
As a marine mechanic for 15 years growing up and not just working on these tubs but as a mechanic if there is one thing I learned, for all u beginners out there- buy a peace of crap and make it great again than sell it and do it again! And again damnit. Break it fix it, make mistakes on your own stuff! Guaranteed you will learn. Rebuilding engines may be a dying art but knowledge lasts forever.
How can you unlike this video lmao guy speaks like hes from another galaxy and teaches us all.
Did you go to school, and what schools do you recommend that are local in south Florida I’m interested in learning about outboards/inboards etc …..
We have a saying in my profession: Nothing says quality like a good low bid, so enjoy what you paid for.
I think sometimes these new certified mechanics rely too much on what the computer says and don’t listen to their customers because they think they know it all. I had a 2003 Yamaha F200 that would run great but when you kill it and go to start it back up, it would run about 5 seconds and die. 3 yes 3 Certified master mechanics couldn’t fix it and every time it was $1000 for them to guess. I kept telling them I thought it was vapor lock. They didn’t listen. So I went out, purchased some fuel hose insulation for the fuel lines for $30 and it fixed the issue!
Yeah I agree with you, but I remember many years ago I contact like 5 mechanic to replace my TPS in my Yamaha 250 saltwater series and was a horrible 😞 not even one mechanic put the freaking TPS correctly since that day my motor turned it to a CRAP 💩 and supposedly all the mechanic are certified in Yamaha tell me about it .
have a good day
I'm in appliance repair and the company I work for charges a flat rate across all the techs for most repairs. That way a customer isn't getting ripped off hourly because a new tech cant figure something out or takes a few hours while those of us that have the years of experience and tricks up our sleeve to do it in minutes. People sometimes get mad at how fast I'm done for what they paid, but that's just my experience that allows me to get more customers done in a day and therefore make more money.
As a customer I prefer this actually. It's as simple as it can be too. Its like buying something from the store. If a basketball is advertised at $20, then I simply agree to pay $20 or don't get it. If you offer to fix my washer/boat for $100, then I agree to it or I don't. Its simple. Doesn't matter if its 5 min or 2 hrs. I made the decision that it was worth $100 to be fixed.
@@hoyay850 yeah in theory is fine.. But not the same as buying something from the store! An engine is not one single part moving, is composed by diferentes systems an whole lot of moving parts! We all wish it would be that simple!
@@dcgo44r agreed. That's why I say as the customer.
I'm a tech, and it's just not realistic to do this most of the time.
I’m wanting to become a marine technician and open a shop in my local towns. But I don’t know the requirements or classes I can take in college to become a marine technician.
My experience was having a certified mechanic but not on my brand ended in it took him forever to figure it out and then what he did wasn’t correct and I ended up a a certified mechanic for my brand to undo and fix it correctly ...
Really interested in that online yamaha program but I'm struggling to find more info on it, can anybody help with that?
For somethings yes. Somethings noway. The cost is outrageous for some small things. But some larger jobs yes.
Yes
How can we verify their credentials? Is there a website somewhere to verify someone is certified for your brand of motor?
Certifiably nuts !
What's the best marine diagnostic tool
I would love to go to Mercury school and be able to do a Mobil marine service business
They won't let you. You have to work for a dealer to get in.
@@hoyay850 I know :( I don’t know any dealers that would hook me up
What is the best way for one to get started in this industry? Besides going to far/pricey schools? What brands/engines would you recommend?
At 1.40 minutes that Yamaha 225 four stroke looks tiny against the Verado 350.
Hi, I’m totally new to boating and had dream of owning one. I’m looking for a used cabin cruiser about 25-30’ length and price range from $20-30k. What do you recommend (brand, model, yr, etc)? Any response is greatly appreciated. Thank you
Do you want the surgeon that has an AA degree or a PhD they may be able to do the same job but what to they miss
by Whom!
I’m Mercury mercruiser Yanmar Raymarine qualified but not master
Had my share of problems with them so called ""Certified Technicians"". They come and start trouble shooting the problem and start changing parts till they find whats wrong. THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY, but many work that way, and expect the customer to pay for it. NOOOT ANY MORE. Get the right guy to do the work and at the end its better for your wallet. 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
In my area certified mechanics not all of them but a good portion of them point you in the wrong direction and cost to a lot of money. I found a guy who has more time wrenching than certifications who always points me in the right direction. It’s getting to the point where I might go and do the schooling myself. Just wanted to share that. Demand is so high it takes 4-6 months to even get your boat looked at.
I would like to work in a marine mechanic, I live in nj.
I’m a born again boating apprentice tech
i have a file cabinet full of certificates. all it means to me is you can pass a written test. i've worked with complete morons that are certified. now i'm not the greatest out there either. i know my limits. when you look for someone find someone who is not afraid to say "i dont know" it means they are honest and are most likely to find the correct way to repair something.
What is the weekly Technician's Tag?
I’ll certify he has the right multimeter which you might not know being the company selling it doesn’t know
it this career easy with one hand?
Does there exist yet any type of certification for boats with electric motors run off of batteries?
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Depends who's doing the certifying!
If we bought our boats with mechanics fees in mind we woulda never bought them! 😉
nice
I will call you our your type when I need help.
I love the smell of 2 stroke in the mornings
Certified back yard mechanic with Google in my pocket 😂
didn't want my computer to blow up. I liked
yeah were are worth it
I’m a tech right out of UTI and I’m the guy all the old heads come to ask questions. “ just cause you been doing 20 years. Don’t mean you been doing it right” just sayin
How was UTI, I’m going to the marine mechanic school in Florida in 2 months and am excited to learn but curious on how your experience was
@@forniafishing it’s the best marine tech school in the nation hands down. The partners and relationships they have with manufacturers are insane. The curriculum it’s self is very good as well. It all depends on what you do with that information. Just focus and apply your self, and stay hungry!
@@jimmymiata7855 awesome Thankyou, I’m moving from Southern California to Florida for this and I can’t wait
@@forniafishing one of my instructors was from Southern California and he said the industry is thriving for techs over there. Good luck 🤙🏼
The best school is in Daytona mml
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14th ignition coil this month.... lmfao
There is proven truth in this video. I will say though, there are a lot of independent guys that are far better than the dealer master techs too though. The stand alone guys aren't even allowed to get these "certifications" because they are refused by the companies like yamaha and mercruiser. They deliberately refuse them because then it opens avenues for money to trickle out of their own pockets. So just because a independent/mobile guy doesn't have a certification, doesn't mean they are not as skilled or more skilled than dealer techs. They just simply aren't allowed to even take the certification exams. Granted, there are absolutely a TON of rookie, gone within a year type of guys too that are not skilled/knowledgeable. If you want to use one of these guys...make sure to check them out well and I would recommend one that specifically specializes in just boats/marine applications. Those guys that boast about working on and fixing everything from cars, to trucks, to lawnmowers to boats...stay away from them. I'm sure they can fix everything...eventually. But the key word there is eventually. They aren't aware of TSB's and common issues/fixes.
The certified technician at a well known and supported agency told my friend his Yamaha F50 had a blown cylinder head gasket. My friend has the technical skills of an amoeba. He bought a new Suzuki and gave me the "broken" Yam... It sat a few months and then, at the start of lockdown, I cleaned the carbs, filled the engine oil and it has been running beautifully ever since. Certified technician maybe... but certified scam artist, most definitely.
I'll give u $600 for the Yama. =)
I don’t believe it! Anyone can do a compression test and look in the cylinder. Especially in a 50. Are you saying your friend was to dumb to just look and ask for the compression?
My job as a certified tech is to fix your boat period. not save you money. If you want to save $ don’t boat.
nice
Thanks