What's the Point of Online Debate? | Hasanabi reacts to Wisecrack
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- What's the Point of Online Debate? | Hasanabi reacts to Wisecrack
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Hasanabi (AKA Hasan Piker) is an American Twitch streamer and political commentator. He is known for covering the news and discussing politics from a left-wing perspective. He also plays a variety of video games, reacts to funny videos and occasionally checks out memes made by the community.
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Can you look through the comments some guy is being weird and racist.
they're rightfully getting dunked on already by other chatters. Hopefully that will help them and others see how racist their comment is
you should also link the Wired podcast
Thanks a lot for tagging us in this. Thanks for gathering all these clips on your channel.
@WisecrackEDU I'm sorry your comment sections are getting hate raided by these fanatics. Just sip thier tears. The irony is that all of them are debating why thier favorite dipshit isn't a bad guy 🤣
Tbh I think every guy who enjoyed the hardcore debate scene reached a point where they were legitimately listening to two guys have an angry and semantic argument about the age of consent. That’s a crossroad not everyone comes back from unfortunately. Not that they turn into pedos, but they turn into nasty goblins.
goblin shortstacks?
Libertarian utopia content
For me it was the N word or disparaging language. Like why even defend the ability to do it if you can lol. Choose a different hill dawg.
@@ramavalos yep been there too, I remember think to myself “ is this actually a free speech debate or are we all just justifying our Xbox live chat rooms from back in the day”
Hey, just yesterday a divorcelly fan call me racist and at the same time say it's ok to say the n word. But when I ask him to say it, he don't have the gut to actually say it.
reacting to a guy reacting to a guy reacting to a guy reacting
Philosophers been reacting to reacts to reacts for thousands of years but they're considered intellectuals
@@KannabisMajoriswoah, really bro? I need to catch up on all the ancient internet philosopher battles /s
Im the guy reacting to the guy reacting to the other guy reacting to a dude reacting to a dude reacting to the other dude reacting to the other other dude!
@@aristotlesimone4773and you're a cat!
😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
@@KannabisMajoris actually really interesting observation thanks b
Anyone who says debate is awesome because Plato hasn't ever read Plato. He was constantly criticizing the Sophists for debating just for the sake of it, using their skills to make the worse argument appear the better. Aristotle made similar points in his Rhetoric, among other works.
its sad to see destiny triggered by hasan saying debating isn't that important more so than he was by the slaughter of ten thousand plus children in gaza.
Gaza doesn’t threaten his moneymaker
@@marti_abernathey u do realize peace affects pikers money maker
@@marti_abernathey??? How does that make sense when he came out against trans olympic sports and cost half his income over those takes by getting banned on twitch for them.
He also has come out against Israel many times I feel like you’re shadow boxing.
@@tristenatorplaysgames6833 “he’s come out against Israel many times” he literally said the only solution he thinks is viable is Israel genocidinh the Palestinians lol
@@kk8490 he said that under the guise that with the current state of the conflict with Israel not budging and Palestinians not having the forces to defend them selves yet they keep attacking that will be the end result. Of course since the usa has threatened to pull support and israel has pulled back a fair bit of their aggression since they were banned from raiding rafa
Malding Mr "divorcelli" it's amazing to hear 😂😂😂
That's a pure (n)ignorance. Hamasabi, Hamas, and the Houthi’s are devastated that Destiny has been taking off in popularity. Traveling around the country with hot girls and being respected by normal people (non-tankies) while Hamasabi violently chews food and cigarette gum for 9 hours a day in his isolated mansions safe room, binge watching all of Destiny’s debates and interviews on his monitors while his depressed dog is forced to be locked in that room with him.
Palestine will be free... Free from Hamas and palestinians. From the River to the Sea Israel is all that will be. 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱 Mauslemz lost the war. Right now gazans are running, crying and praying to their pdf-file prophet and his 6yo wife. Will he save them? Nope. Justice for Aisha. Without lies, islam dies.
When you encounter a destiny cult member on a comment section, you can sense how filthy and greasy their keyboards are, just by the way they formulate sentences
Judging Grammar in a CZcams comment section to throat any political streamer is something I didn't expect this year. I guess Destiny and Hasan cult members have something in common.
@@MegaDuke4life lol. did you wash your hands before typing this?
@craigash189 you probably don't know the first thing about hygiene since your last brain cell was to copy another's jest
@@craigash189LMAO
@@MegaDuke4life such a simple comment yet it still managed to fly over your head, of course, lol.
It's not even a hot take that debating isn't primarily about finding truth.
Some people debate to try to prove the other guy wrong and look like an intellectual, not because they care to find the truth or stand for justice.
I know it's sped up, but the first clip of D reacting so vehimently about debate being the foundation kf the country is fucking hilarious and looks like the gif of the dude outside with a whiteboard drawing on it. 😂
That's a pure (n)ignorance. Hamasabi, Hamas, and the Houthi’s are devastated that Destiny has been taking off in popularity. Traveling around the country with hot girls and being respected by normal people (non-tankies) while Hamasabi violently chews food and cigarette gum for 9 hours a day in his isolated mansions safe room, binge watching all of Destiny’s debates and interviews on his monitors while his depressed dog is forced to be locked in that room with him.
@ThatApeBigMad488 it's unbelievable how right you are. Im officially a Dhead.
I thought you were being serious in the first sentence before reading the second lmao
Malding Destiny fans incoming…
Sadly, they were swarming on Wisecrack's podcast episode.
That's a pure (n)ignorance. Hamasabi, Hamas, and the Houthi’s are devastated that Destiny has been taking off in popularity. Traveling around the country with hot girls and being respected by normal people (non-tankies) while Hamasabi violently chews food and cigarette gum for 9 hours a day in his isolated mansions safe room, binge watching all of Destiny’s debates and interviews on his monitors while his depressed dog is forced to be locked in that room with him.
Poor little sneaker, nobody cares what you think.
@@ThatApeBigMad488 spamming the same racist copy and paste comment everywhere… typical Destiny fan
Not really malding. I just think if someone should listen to what you have to say you should be able to defend your takes.
Imagine having a meltdown over an objectively true statement. Hasan struck every nerve in his body lmao
Objectively true? Hasan is bad at debate, and him saying it's just entertainment is him huffing copium.
@@EthnHDmlle Bro you are literally proving Hasan's point. Some people think he dunked on destiny while others like you justify it within your own reasons and perspective.
@@saviet4222 His point isn't clear, though. How is the statement "debate on the internet is entertainment" objectively true?
@@EthnHDmlle There is no point to it. Just watch how Hasan community react to the Norm debate and how Destiny community react to the exact same debate. If the truth was all that matter, both community would agree on who "won" that debate.
Hasan is completely right but debate bros aren't bad. Being "right" doesn't really mean anything to your average person who doesn't have the time or energy to interpret numbers, read up on history, or listen to both sides of an argument. Thats why debate bros try to condense ideas into entertaining soundbites for their audience. That's why we turn numbers into charts, turn speeches into soundbites, and turn manifestos into slogans.
I always wondered why leftist types are the only people who are actively scared of debate (and playing politics) or debate bros when virtually every other ideology loves their little e-celebs and slimy political figures. It's like they love being a niche ideology with little actual support.
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That's a pure (n)ignorance. Hamasabi, Hamas, and the Houthi’s are devastated that Destiny has been taking off in popularity. Traveling around the country with hot girls and being respected by normal people (non-tankies) while Hamasabi violently chews food and cigarette gum for 9 hours a day in his isolated mansions safe room, binge watching all of Destiny’s debates and interviews on his monitors while his depressed dog is forced to be locked in that room with him.
Lmaoo they compared Mr Bonerelli to sophists, the worst insult you could throw at somebody in philosophy. It's so joever for Bonelli fans.
He’s the ultimate sophist.
@@sargonsblackgrandfather2072 based on what
@@garywebb2432 he picks and chooses what positions to hold not based on whether he believes in them or not, sometimes just to be contrarian.
It’s most evident with his 180 on Israel/palestine. He was always on the pro Palestine side until falling out with Hasan and now just seems to want to take up positions that he knows would piss Hasan off. That’s simplifying it of course and his fans will disagree but as someone who had been watching him for maybe ten years I watched it all happen. First he was arguing for positions he held, then it became about the arguments themselves and he started to think he was a philosopher and finally the arguments were inextricably linked to his ego. If someone annoys him personally on some level their positions must be wrong and he has to find arguments against them regardless of whether he actually believes in what he’s saying or not.
@@sargonsblackgrandfather2072
im sorry can you show me when the hell was destiny ever "pro palestine" show me his positions on that cause i dont think he is "pro Israel" either he just agrees with certain positions
@@garywebb2432 he was pro Palestine right up to maybe a couple of years ago, coinciding with him falling out with Hasan. If you really want to see if that’s true you can go and look at his older videos on the subject.
Also the founding fathers did not debate over most things, with a couple of exceptions they were all there to explore the best way to carry out the same goals and they explicitly discluded anyone who was not on the same page; they wanted to remove the monarchy’s control over their new country and they wanted to make sure that goal stuck, and all ‘debate’ was in service of those ends, they did not sit around endlessly discussing whether or not to have a king
i love the book-like aesthetic of the wisecrack live chat
Right oml
Caught someone in Hasan's chat saying it looks a restaurant menu. I like it too
Same. I literally thought it was a pic of a book he'd pulled up lol.
We wanted to change the font for a while but it eventually grew on us.
@@WisecrackEDUI got fooled man, it looks so realistic 😅
"loves to say gamer words" lmfao.
I come to the comment section to savour the tears of destiny fans. Comment. Comment more. Feed me.
Same. Not too many of them have found this yet it looks like.
Destiny fans: Destiny is just angry and spiteful because political content creators are all grifters and he's trying to enlighten people about this
Destiny: a left leaning liberal that gets banned and moves to kick(a conservative platform)and consistently moves to the right
@@Ar1AnX1xhas he been banned on YT?
@@sargonsblackgrandfather2072 no, on twitch
@@sargonsblackgrandfather2072 no why?
Destiny needs circus music when at .25x
At 2x speed, u do not want to listen to him for too long
@@potatopoker2141 oh sorry 🤣 now I know why blood was coming out of my nose 😂😂
@@nashsanadiki3104 That's a pure (n)ignorance. Hamasabi, Hamas, and the Houthi’s are devastated that Destiny has been taking off in popularity. Traveling around the country with hot girls and being respected by normal people (non-tankies) while Hamasabi violently chews food and cigarette gum for 9 hours a day in his isolated mansions safe room, binge watching all of Destiny’s debates and interviews on his monitors while his depressed dog is forced to be locked in that room with him.
@@potatopoker2141 That's a pure (n)ignorance. Hamasabi, Hamas, and the Houthi’s are devastated that Destiny has been taking off in popularity. Traveling around the country with hot girls and being respected by normal people (non-tankies) while Hamasabi violently chews food and cigarette gum for 9 hours a day in his isolated mansions safe room, binge watching all of Destiny’s debates and interviews on his monitors while his depressed dog is forced to be locked in that room with him.
That's a pure (n)ignorance. Hamasabi, Hamas, and the Houthi’s are devastated that Destiny has been taking off in popularity. Traveling around the country with hot girls and being respected by normal people (non-tankies) while Hamasabi violently chews food and cigarette gum for 9 hours a day in his isolated mansions safe room, binge watching all of Destiny’s debates and interviews on his monitors while his depressed dog is forced to be locked in that room with him.
I started my journey down the leftist pipeline, if you can call it that, by watching Vaush at first. I was watching mostly Vaush for a bit and a little bit of Hasan until Vaush debated Professor Flowers a couple of years ago and that's when I immediately stopped watching his content because I found that debate really gross. It became clear to me, at least subconsciously, that Vaush was merely in it for the sport of it while Hasan believed and based his entire philosophy around leftist ideals which appealed to me way more.
oh god that vaush and professor flower drama was so fucking bad
@@oly_or_smth very bad, but ultimately good for me and my mental health so that I didn't keep going deeper into the debate sphere
Whole drama was completely stupid, I ignored it
That debate was the pinnacle of bad faith on both sides I stuck around with Vaush for a bit longer cus there was some still entertainment value but then it came out he was a Loli porn consumer and I just lost all ability to even humour Vaush or his fans. Overtime I've come to understand how fucking stupid Vaush was not because all of his ideas are cracked but because of how terribly he explained himself and how he genuinely believed he was this perfect leftist with godlike debate skill when in reality in order to defend him, you have to spend literal hours of sifting through extremely poorly put together arguments and even when I had tried find what he was trying to say, I just got fed up with him constantly being lazy.
His behaviour after the Professor Flowers debate also annoyed me because he continued to smear her despite it being very obvious that Flowers was trying to talk about resistance against apartheid and imperial powers and Vaush was talking about Autocratic Grifting and violence in Africa. Not realising that he and her were talking about resisting the same fucking thing.
Vaush just has this amazing talent of talking to someone who should logically agree with him in nearly every point and becoming the worst enemy and categorically misunderstanding every point to the point you begin to question if this Mfer is doing it on purpose. Also Vaush, Destiny will never message you back please stop simping for him GOD XD
Sorry, this comment surfaced a lot of frustration I have at Vaush
A debate is a battle where the best fighter wins, a discussion is where both parties learn
when two people debate publicly over ideas, its never about learning to be better, its about establishing you are better and on top. Just like a UFC match, its all about taking over rather than understand the other side (like a sparring match)
Man seriously how does destiny have a platform dude is insane
Kick.
@@Icynova the most wretched hive of scum and villainy
theres always worse people out there, no matter what
my god who watches Destiny. As if his family owning actual slaves not too long ago wasn't enough
can you post actual proof of this? thanks
@@garywebb2432D talked about it when he reacted to ShawwnDaBlack saying that all slave owners should have been deleted.
@@Icynova
heresay isnt proof give me a link with a time stamp
What a weird lie
@@garywebb2432 they don't have to do the leg work for you. They told you exactly how to find it. Scroll up and type lmao. "It's not true because you didn't bring me the book that hearsay"
No way, the drones have invaded the original video! Who would've thought?
lol it's so obvious when they get raided.
The absolute worst person I've ever met is soooo deeply into divorcelli
Makes sense
Debate bros are cringe and they're not changing any minds. Actual debates are good, debate bros are not
The Socratic dialectic is so far removed from what goes on in the debate-sphere of the internet. back and forth dialogues are still incredibly useful, but the culture that's calcified around debating online is more about creating highlight reels of your favorite contender. It's like rap battles, but the perfect inverse in terms of "coolness" factor.
Bro Destiny posts like 2 hour debate sessions on his channel every other video. What are you talking about "highlight reels"?
I remember being introduced to leftism through a vaush debate. So theres that at least. The problem is that it doesnt spur me to get involved. It actually satiates me to see a conservative get owned
Yeah Vaush debates is what helped me formulate my politics into a coherent worldview/ideology and not just vibes. Debates against conservatives are a good thing to listen to and learn from so you can learn how to apply rhetoric and point out hypocrisy.
@@jamesmcpherson8599 but hasan said "debates dumb" lmaoooo
@@garywebb2432 it is, and the original commenter says perfectly why it is. When you hear your hated conservative pundit get owned in the market place of ideas, does that mobilize you to take action to prevent their ideas from becoming mainstream, and helping others to not get involved with these streamers and pundits on the right, or are you just satisfied from watching them get owned in the marketplace of ideas?
@@plague8163
the former so now what?
Because its entertainment at the end of the day. It was an education at the beginning when you watched Vaush, but now that you have formed your political opinions, its time to close the laptop and start doing something.
Hasan must’ve coached these guys, there’s no way they don’t think “cracker” is an anti-white slur. /s
I cry every time I hear cracker directed at me. From laughter. Yeah bro that term is SO offensive 😂
Lol I knew somebody would comment this😂
In the real world nobody believes cracker is a anti white slur, not even gringos
Why would it be an anti-white slur…if it’s origins itself derive from the oppression of African Americans
That's a pure (n)ignorance. Hamasabi, Hamas, and the Houthi’s are devastated that Destiny has been taking off in popularity. Traveling around the country with hot girls and being respected by normal people (non-tankies) while Hamasabi violently chews food and cigarette gum for 9 hours a day in his isolated mansions safe room, binge watching all of Destiny’s debates and interviews on his monitors while his depressed dog is forced to be locked in that room with him.
Sneaker lover.
debating always felt in a way selfish. it's definitely not actual activism.
dumbest comment in youtube history congrats
@@garywebb2432what activism is occurring when Vaush defends child prawn? Nothing. It's disgusting
@@garywebb2432 Bro has a 300+ destiny debate playlist on his profile. Yet his response to critisism was an ad homanim attack HAHAH thats so fucking embarrassing.
@@iplaylol25 nice job not actually looking at the playlist half of those are HASAN DEBATES LMAOO
@@garywebb2432 okay? You wanna try this again debate genius. You have a 300+ Debate playlist, and in response to critisim, you did an ad homanim attack. Which is now deleted? Is this the incredible "technique" you learnt over 300+ videos? Personal attacks and "OH I GOT HIM, THEY ARENT ALL DESTINY DEBATES". Fucking jesus.
Unironically I think Hasan has closer debate tactics to what Michael is talking about than Destiny. He doesnt just repeat facts, but does further inspection of his position by asking the people he's debating about what's morally right vs legally correct.
This was honestly a pretty interesting conversation. I love Michael burns and kind of miss peak wisecrack . It seems like they went through some restructuring under their parent company and discontinued a bunch of their long-form podcasts /shows .
I enjoyed this discussion with Lux a lot. bringing someone in who did actual debates on a competitive level was insightful.
That is true - some restructuring happened that we didn't have control over and it sucked, but things are turning around and we're getting to invest more in streams and podcasts so we're super excited about it.
@@WisecrackEDU that's sounds awesome! I'm looking forward to checking out the new content. Best of luck with everything!
I used to be a Destiny fan but he's been so unlikable lately. His ego is throughhhh the roooooooof and his social skills suck. I respect him less everyday
Same. I used to watch him a lot up until recently. It doesn't help that he's pro zionist.
The host said he didn't want to upset anyone, but played a recording of Destiny malding. Why lie to us?
It's true! Debates are fundamentally won by the person who has the best comebacks, even in politics... not necessarily the one with the most understanding/information
Destiny thinks he’s Socrates in Ancient Greece or smthn lol
Nope. He is just a political streamer with rhetorical skills that is confident is his positions because of the research that he's done.
Steve really wants to feel important.
Debate is only as useful as the people who participate in it. If you have two leading academics that a highly regarded in their field debate within their expertise, it's likely to be a very educational and thought provoking conversation.
Unfortunately that's rarely the kind of debate we get. It's usually two trolls trying to own each other.
I also did policy debate, and I hated the arguments that guy and his older brother popularized
HASANS SMILE LMAOAOOAOA
A world with Hasan: 😔 A world without Hasan: 🤩
Hamasabi, Hamas, and the Houthi’s are devastated that Destiny has been taking off in popularity. Traveling around the country with hot girls and being respected by normal people (non-tankies) while Hamasabi violently chews food and cigarette gum for 9 hours a day in his isolated mansions safe room, binge watching all of Destiny’s debates and interviews on his monitors while his depressed dog is forced to be locked in that room with him.
Wait americans have debate clubs in highschool that explains a lot! To me debating is just a really niche thing some people on the internet love because it was not a thing at all in any of my schools or at uni and ive never heard anyone in real life or even on the internet, outside of a select few communities, who care in the slightest about them
Where are you that has no debate even in university? Europe? Do your politicians have televised debates?
@@seanheller3335 to clarify there is a debate society in my uni (there's one for everything). It's just a niche one especially when compared to other societies.
I am in europe and parliament have broadcasted discussions but I don't think it's something a regular person pays attention to, except for clips of the most important ones that the news will show. People aren't watching them because the medium of debate itself isn't interesting to them, at best they'd look for some summary or highlights of what was said. Is it similar in the us? Since my knowledge of the place is through the internet where it doesn't seem that way i cant tell
@@seanheller3335bruh stop it.. why would you have debates i unis haha? Thats actually so cringe haha.. go to a theatre school or something hahah
@@iwtdkmp5081 I think it’s pretty cool that there’s a forum for kids to engage in a friendly and competitive way to practice their literary interpretation, persuasive writing, and public speaking skills. Debate is the most useless of the Speech and Debate activities, but I think the program over all is cool.
I find it pretty weird tbh that Europe supposedly doesn’t have any associations for kids to meet others who enjoy persuasive writing and literary interpretation if what y’all are saying is true.
@@seanheller3335 i dont think debates, sports and competitions have anything to do with higher education. But if you want to learn the same skills there exist courses so. My position is that academia is about conversation, discussion and constructive criticism. Not debating who is right.
Love that they bring up the nature of propaganda. The way people use that word is such a tell.
2:55 - are you seriously expecting us aging millennial 30 year olds to understand a single sentence of this quadruple sped gibberish?
Unc!!!
you can slow down the video yourself, I did it for the first portion of the video
Just here to say Destiny sucks
Mr. Botulinum almost started levitating and speaking in tongues! 😂
I hate how this is literally the meme where one side is a Chad and says something incontrovertible and the wojak is literally melting down. You couldn't write something like this!
Still blows my mind that Destiny went from being he who will not be named to being a focus of hasans streams.
The point of debating is an effort to legitimize one's arguments in the public opinion by proving one's knowledge and breadth of understanding within controversial topics.
Legitimize it in the debaters mind only. And his cronies
@@Froggeh92 It's not exclusive to Destiny, or Hasan.
@@Beardymanlol its not. And it still applies. Ben shapiro. Pierce. Trump hilary. All debates are just repeatedly saying "hey im on your side. That other guy is dumb" and idiots cheer
There are good debates out there. They’re just not done by streamers.
I was into debates in high school (not debate club, just listening to debates). It was good for me because I was a confused teenager who wanted to hear other people's opinions on a specific topic and the potential flaws in their logic (if someone is a good debater can sway that, I acknowledge). Eventually, I grew out of it, but I took some of what I learned to analyze things online.
I watched like five to ten minutes of that debate between Nebraska Steve and the actual adults there to babysit him, I'd rather saw my legs off above the ankle than listen to any more of it. That debate perfectly encapsulates how extremely unserious online debate weirdos are when stacked against someone that's actually in the mud, ppl who knows what tf they're talking about.
Destiny's debate with Omar on breaking points was even worse. D man melted down crying Omar was racist over and over 😂
Wtf are you people talking about? I feel like i'm in a different reality than you.
Damn even the most debate brained of the debate scene is making fun of destiny 😂
5 views in a minute? Fell off.
166 in 5 minutes? L
5,000 in 2 hrs. Wow!
we'll be sure to let hasan prod, a fan account not directly affiliated with hasan, know!
Just FYI for everyone here, that's Destiny's actual talking speed. The video hasnt been set to a faster playback speed.
It’s funny because it’s fairly likely Socrates was made up by Plato, as a mouth piece. Additionally, dialectical thinking isn’t always the actual exchange of ideas between different people … it’s seeing an issue/ question from multiple perspectives. Plato’s DIALOGUES are uniquely poetic, and meant to be parabolic as opposed to actual debates/ dialectic method
I feel like the bait is only productive if the audience has a good understanding of the topic being spoken about. Otherwise it's just about who can bullshit better. If the people in the audience don't know anything about the topic and have no way of fact checking the participants then it's just about who can invoke more emotion and who can make their ideas sound the best.
Do CZcamsrs have any idea how fast they talk? Even the host? Faster doesn’t mean smarter.
It's sped up, chief.
Hasan sped up the video to 1.25x
Reacting to a reaction to a reaction to a reaction
We can go deeper
There is no point. It's just to feed the ego.
At 2:43 minutes into the video I looked into the mirror and realized I was watching Hasan watching another guy watching destiny watching hasan on a podcast and it got too meta for me and i quit.
I do enjoy listening to debates from time to time (not the weird ones where its two grown adult dudes that scream at each other about whether or not the earth is flat, but the ones with actual politcians (and no destiny fans, destiny is not remotely close to being one) where they discuss their topic, because at the very least theyre actually somewhat knowledgable on set topic). But i dont think debates work, like ever. I have never watched a debate and at the end agreed with the side that i wasnt on to begin with, debates dont work like that, theyre just entertainment. Debates dont change peoples minds, actually reading up on the specific topic does that.
Imagine the conversations between him and Jussie smollett BTS on that stupid show
Can somebody explain why exatly chat tries to bait hasan before the top of the hour? Like does he have to skip an ad break if they trick him or what?
It’s just an interactive chat activity. It’s fun to trick the streamer and make him mald a little.
he said some of these debates are like reality TV shows about the strangest people on the internet. YES!!! that’s exactly why i watch, it’s a spectacle. People like hasan and ethan have better intentions than most imo, but everyone knows what’s happening here
Who's keeping the "unimaginably" count for this stream?
3:13 lmao seeing Hasan slowly cracking the biggest smile ever.
Tge blue haired one is losing it 😂😂😂😂😂
its funny how destiny and hasan hate each other so much when they are so similar
LONG LIVE WISECRACK
he should watch them so a teenager can't come on his own show and make him look stupid with their talking points.
Mr. Maldelli
35:38 Actually what Hasan is talking about is discussed later.
Hasan reacting to Wisecrack reacting to Destiny reacting to Hasan! Im gonna fuckin react 💦🥵
Socrates was murdered by poison because of winning every Debate.
That's what Plato said what happened. It's like a fanboy saying his fav rapper always won all the diss wars.
There is actually no evidence that Socrates existed
@@ArlecchinoAKAFather I think he did. That's just my opinion. If we believe Plato, Crites and Aristotle existed then it is a reasonable enough to think he did. But I wouldn't take Plato's characterization of him as facts. It is very apparent Plato was fascinated by Socrates and would potray him in rosier tones than he actually was.
what’s the point of online commentary?
Destiny is a Sophist.
Imagine thinking that debate rhetoric is so powerful that you could be infinitely smarter than someone..... Infinitely and not be able to change anyone's mind .. maybe you're not infinitely smarter
Your N-word enjoyer ain't changing anybody 's mind who already wasn't already a fan. And this going joker mode, saying he will enjoy QT's AI porn, calling Hasan the N-word is only gonna negatively polarise normans against him.
touch grass
Written debates on forum,social media are better because everyone takes turn to cook. Verbal debate you're just addressing 1,2 sentences spoken before you and it's pure vibe
It’s always the people that can’t debate their points well that say debate is useless lmao
Okay...here's the concession I'll give...and it may not be 100% true. But back from like 2013-2017 the online space was a nightmare of right-wing hate shit. Gamergate and the alt right and what have you (yes faaaaar worse than now). But breadtuber essayists and a certain debate streamer came along and I swear everything shifted. A particular debate against Sargon of Akkad and a particular video essay about alt right fascism signaled a big change. So online debate in the way it exists now *can* have an effect on ONLINE CULTURE. Which is a big deal for some ppl because of its social advantages (if you are queer and don't have a lot of irl options where you live for example).
Otherwise I agree with Hasan and the other dudes in that people need to be honest with themselves and have content awareness.
Go to 0.75 speed, the video sounds normal and hasan sounds like a stoner
Hasna poggies
Wisecrack has fallen off since Jared got phased out
He didn't get phased out, he left.
@@WisecrackEDU Oh my god imagine being Stormhawk right now lol
Hassan's whole street is aesthetics.... That's it
I cant watch an hour of this. Just point me to the part of the video I need to watch.
none
Just put it on the background while working
God he’s annoying.
Ever forget these people say destiny isn't politically active..... When has Hassan ever been politically active? Destiny has full campaigning operations running in multiple States.. some of which are funded by his own money... But yes he's just an outside observer who isn't politically active at all.
Hassan is the king for hatewatchers.
CAN ANY OF YOU GIVE EXAMPLES OF ANY OF THIS????
No, go get a life instead of commenting on every hasan video lol
@@dogman12279
the 2 things arent mutually exclusive so nice failed personal attack btw LOVE how dont have an answer lmaoo hasan has you people leaking brains
@@garywebb2432You deserved to called out for your parasocial hate.
@@troubadour0663
its para-love not hate
get it right next time
@garywebb2432 “Mutually exclusive” yah sure thing bud keep telling yourself that while you waste your life defending your streamer. Not a hasan fan btw but its so funny seeing losers like you trying to debate people in YT comments 😂🫵
Idk man destiny talks to people who disagree with him while Hasan would “destroy Ben” wouldn’t touch him with a ten foot pole
TRUUUE lmaoo
Nobody who watched that would care. They would just say their guy “won” - Hasan talks to plenty of people who disagree with him, he just doesn’t want the contention of a “debate”
@Icynova Who did he talk to? The latest, most prominent one i can think of is the Piers Morgan one.
Shapiro is a tard 💀
I think Hasan said he would to open to talking to Ben Shapiro multiple times. So did Sam Seder from Majority Report. Yet the entire Intellectual Dark Web keeps ducking them.
I have a hard time with Hasans perspective here. Isn’t a commentator just a debator who isn’t challenged? Hasan is presenting or reacting to news from a particular angle with the goal of convincing masses to his side.
Just because he doesn’t have an opponent on the other end doesn’t make him demonstrably distinguishable from the people he’s critiquing.
What debate brain does to a mf
to me there isn't an issue because well the goal qould be to develop his point without debating semantics and personnal attacks to break tgmhe chain of thought. He is open about his opinions and biaises (as far as i know). So instead of meaningless debates you have someone at least attempting to develop his point of view and his opinions. It doesn't make him right or wrong but you can judge the value based on the ideas shared rather than on who talked louder, faster and used more 4 syllable words.
@@Automatedresponsebot5
thats not an actual response to anything he just typed lmaoo
that's why he doesn't call himself a debater or journalist. he is a propagandist.
This is a prime example of a debate bro smooth brain. You're playing semantics instead of actually addressing the point Hassan made
Hasan is literally a debate channel that just doesn't have dissenting opinions on lol
You just described commentary
He literally hasn’t debated in ages. He talks about politics and propaganda
Still upset about destiny getting wrecked huh?
He was on Piers Morgan like twice. But again hasan has said he doesnt really do those because he knows most dont take debates serious in educating
this is what happens when you neglect the education system...
A Debate is just BS because people can lie and mislead as long as they keep straight face, without being stop right at their tracks to be called out by the the moderator and scolded or deducted points for it, in fact the moderator 99% knows shit about the topic so you can BS your way as long as you look confident, is a sport a game of deceit and argumentation that doesn't have to be attached to the truth.
What do you think is the right way to discover the truth?
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