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Dead Space (2023): An Interesting Audio Log **SPOILERS**
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- čas přidán 11. 02. 2023
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Found this in my second playthrough during Chapter 7 after getting the Distress Beacon and thought it was a very nice touch.
This moment in the original Dead Space confuses me still. I can only think the Nicole in OG Dead Space during this moment is actually Kendra. In the remake its played way better cause we met Liz and know she's running around trying to survive.
100% agree. The exploration aspect of the remake gives so much more context through logs like this, that just makes everything click that extra little bit to make the story and events a lot more coherent
Idk if it could be Kendra. Once you get the thing you needed from the room she contacts you saying that she lost your signal for a bit and she’s relieved you’re still alive. It makes more sense that Kendra lost Issac’s signal during the whole Nicole thing instead of Kendra panic calling him in the 10 seconds they just left each other.
But who knows.
Same for me to and I even had an argument with somebody about it lol. Basically I said that it made sense that this was added but basically their biggest argument was that Isaac was simply hallucinating the problem (aka the locked door) no one was actually there, it also does fit but I feel like having another person there fit more.
@@trh3xa174 the whole Aegis 7 part glued me in that there must be something more to this "Nicole" than just a hallucination. The part where she tells you that storage area has ran out of power, and then runs diagnostic afterwards telling where's the problem.
Since when have hallucinations started relaying back information that could only be physically accessed?
@@Ruosteinenknight Well again it could still be explained as Isaac was just hallucinating that "there's problems" but in reality the path has always been clear.
Can you imagine thinking you saw your girlfriend, only to hear an audio log that it wasn't her talking to you?... but someone else entirely? That scare the sh!t out of me.
Honestly mate, I feel the same way. Psychosis is a condition I am genuinely afraid of and hope I never have to experience
@@JAIJ47 it is man. In my line of work. I see a lot of people die. Suicides. The best defense against psychosis, is never giving up. You might lose your mind but you won't lose yourself. Remember and believe who you are. And not even the oceans and mountains can defeat you. Isacc might be losing his mind but he never gave up hope. Hope is what keeps us going in a world where nothing makes sense.
Can you imagine having a girlfriend?!? That is scarier 😂
That should absolutely make Isaac question his sanity at that point.
Aparantely nicotine helps with psychosis etc not sure @@redpilldredd9907
Certainly seems to imply that Cross hadn't yet succumbed to the Marker's influence like Isaac had at this moment (or like she eventually would be like later on Aegis VII). And that it's possible that Jacob's death by Dr Mercer was what made Liz crack & open to the Marker's control.
Also neat that Motive hid this audio log to be NG+ exclusive, since newcomers wouldn't have known about the Nicole twist just yet.
Definitely some good designers behind the scenes at Motive
Expanded material shows that even never knowing the loved one died they can still appear as a hallucination, happened to someone where they saw their loved one as a vision but knew the marker well enough to know that means they were deceased
Yeah, at this point, Temple was still alive and since the audio log that reveals Mercer has taken Temple hostage got lost all the way to cargo bay, Cross never finds out what happened to him. The markers can alter appearance of living people to look something else, but it cannot impersonate them until they die.
Reason for it is unknown and it's implied trough Nicole's talk with the Marker that it doesn't understand it either(provided it is speaking the truth).
Ooohhh thats why I didnt find this on my first playthrough.
I was watching the video confuses to how this guy was able to intreact with this audio log because I went to the exact same spot and the console was in red and wouldnt let me intreact with the thing at all
@@Xeno-The-Wanderer Kendra saw her brother, they hint at it all game
Love all the little details they’ve added to this already awesome game
Same. It's an absolute master class on how a "Triple A" remake should be. I just hope that the success of the remake gives enough momentum to revitalise the series
@@JAIJ47 I would honestly be shocked if they didn’t, at the very least, remake the other games. Even doing the side games and DLC’s would be awesome! I would love to play a dead space game the follows the whole downfall of the colony and the Ishimura, right up to Isaac arriving with the repair crew
@@sovietNIKOLAI1911 Agreed. It's a very exciting time for us as fans to see whatever Motive has in store since they've set the bar so high already
Ah yes... There will be (probably) a second Dead Space
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It sure seems like it with the Alternate ending and the regular ending being the same.
Unfortunately, there never was a remake for the second game in development. EA put Dead Space on ice again, and it'll probably be another decade before we see another game.
@@ferdinand5223wow
they must really don’t want my money
@@ferdinand5223 Not true. EA literally debunked jason schriers claims by saying the game isn't shelved or cancelled in anyway. They considered the remake a success. We're likely to see Dead Space 2 remake after Motive are done with Iron Man likely in 2029 maybe as early as 2027 if things go smoothly. I don't know why people take Schriers claims as truths, hes good and credible but if ea themselves are saying he's wrong the community shouldn't worry
They addressed this plot hole in such an interesting way. Cause the necromorphs are attacking something in the original, but once you know the truth, that she is just a hallucination, it makes things confusing. This remake did everything right. Yeah a little upset about Isaac and Nicole's different faces, but hey if they remake Dead Space 2 they can easily say Isaac looks more ragged with darker hair because of the stress. Cause of the whole 2 years of being experimented on and being insane would make one look very haggard.
I'm honestly really looking forward to seeing what else is in store from Motive considering how much detail and passion went into the remake.
Small details like this little New Game+ feature is something I honestly wouldn't fault them for not adding but since this exists, I think it shows that the devs, designers, and other departments working on this are just as much fans of the franchise like us.
I kinda like the new faces. Both characters are experts in their respective fields. Their levels if expertise come from years of experience and training. You'd need to be middle aged to do what they do.
@@TopTwom Though, Issac was apparently gifted, keep that in mind. I think he's possibly in his early thirties, if not younger by this point.
The face for Isaac is the voice actor for Isaac's face
@@shadows_star I believe he was in his forties at the events of the game? Considering Isaac was born in 2461, and the Ishimura incident takes place in 2508, according to Dead Space wiki
I’ve beaten the game three times, twice on NG+, and had NO idea this was here! Thanks! That’s amazing
little details like this are what make this game great
It’s sad she just gave up at the end. Her and Jacob temple were pretty badass.
Oh wow I thought they were both mutually under the markers influence, it’s now 10x worse.
100%. Some of the discussions I've been following throughout the other comments here suggest that the Marker's influence is carried out by using hallucinations of loved ones, who are already dead, to manipulate the living.
This scene adds to that suggestion a bit since we know that, for Issac, Nicole is dead but Jacob Temple (Liz Cross' lover) is still alive.
I am doing my third play-through after beating impossible mode and doing my first new game plus difficulty. I just saw this too and find it really cool. I wonder if there are other parts we can find hidden recordings like this, such as when you meet Nicole in flight deck control.
I could be wrong but as far as I'm aware, this seems to be the only hint to what the marker is doing before reaching Aegis 7. There may be some clues in marker fragment descriptions but I can't actually remember what those were XD
@JAIJ47 I was honestly hoping for one after we drag Kendra back before the last chapter.
I wish that Issac´s interactions and ending would change the more you discover this things, like the recordings on the valor, you read and listen to them but nothing changes and the characters still don´t know why the valor was there.
I believe there are a few subtle changes in dialogue around the side quests. There's one where Issac's dialogue changes when you kill the hunter depending on the progress of one of the side quests but yeah, including small bits based on logs found or other collectibles would be cool
Would be more fucked up if she though she was talking to Jacob
It would but that might've left a bit of a plot hole since Liz has Jacob's access codes which Issac doesn't. If Jacob was in Issac's place then there wouldn't be a reason for Liz to have to unlock the door (unless the guys at Motive could think of a way around that)
@@JAIJ47 true,unless the terminal by isaac wasnt working leading to marker hallucinating jacob telling her that
I literally just discovered this yesterday! It’s a great Easter egg
This was a brilliant moment I only discovered a few days ago. It adds so much, I'm only disappointed there wasn't more of this on new game +
Same. Hopefully we get more of that kind of bonus content through a future Dead Space 2 remake and New game + in there
ah so miss cross is actually there. always wondered who was actually talking to issac in the original scene when he sees nicole (given we know nicole is dead but see her open doors and access consoles, although i suppose in the original it could be said it was all Isaac using the machinery but who knows, its left a bit vague)
I went crazy when I found this audio log
This one Foreshadows the end of the game where he is shown that Nicole is actually Elizabeth cross and she started seeing jacob
Eh, not really. It's not really foreshadowing, because you can only find this audio log in New Game+, when you already know the plot twist at the end. The player already knows that all encounters with Nicole are actually Elizabeth Cross, so this audio log is technically not foreshadowing. Information is only 'foreshadowing' if the audience does not yet know all of the story or what is going to happen.
@@DeadPixel1105 I found it during my first play through
I was hoping for some logs by charcters from Dead Space Extraction. (I admit I could have missed some). I hated the on-rails gameplay, but absolutely loved the story and characters from that game (and that the survivors featured in Dead Space 2 DLC).
I honestly never played Extraction but I do think it would be nice in future installments (as long as Motive and EA don't end up dropping the ball) that there should be some more optional content that features the expanded universe a bit more. There's plenty of opportunity to bring in Extraction content if they do manage to get DS2 rolling at least.
there's two references that i've found so far about DSE characters and its one when you're about to fix the transmission satelite, when the captain speaks about the situition on the colony and that Dr. Eckhardt forgive him for the Quarentine lockdown. And the second one was on the final chapter nearby the store, there is an text log that reference to Gabe Weller and a few characters f the anime too...
@@audio_alien There were actually a few logs about how Eckhardt did something real bad ship/colony. I'm super excited to find out what
@@audio_alien There's another reference on the bridge when you first go there in Chapter 4, the communications console has a last recording from the deck staff before being overrun by the Brute and cries out for where Chief Vincent is. I think White also name drops her and her security team just outside the airlock to the ADS trench too in the security callbox.
There is algo one log related to Gabe Weller
I do like how the remake fixed the plotholes of the original.
Agreed. I think that's how a remake should be since it's got the benefit of hindsight to improve issues like plot holes in the story. Remakes, in my opinion, shouldn't just be a 1:1 recreation with pretty graphics but an overall improvement of the original (while obviously still following the same story just maybe adding some pacing, plot, and gameplay fixes like how the turret section was also removed).
Well... I'll be damned.
That suit looks cool as hell from the back.
When I was younger, id care if that sounded like I was checking out his ass, but tbh he does in the game.
Honestly, the suit design as a whole in the game is just so good. Even the environment effects after a fight where you're either caked in blood or covered in dirt or when your in the cryo lab with all the frost clinging to it
@@JAIJ47 ooh I haven't seen the frost effects yet!
@@claytonhawk8512 It's a very subtle effect but it's a nice touch nonetheless. I believe there's also a few times the frost effects pop up in a few of the sequences where Issac is exposed to space. Either that or my GPU drivers need re-installing XD
@@JAIJ47 Whenever Isaac is in a vacuum his suit will frost up, and after he leaves the vacuum you can see it slowly thaw and become glossy for a bit while it's still wet. The detail is insane.
@@detectivecolonel874 Good to know I wasn't mistaken then XD. Cheers for confirming that
Omg i missed that!!
Yeah, it takes a fair bit of commitment to exploration to find it to be fair. Especially if you don't go back over to check the area in NG+
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Go ahead and share it if you want to mate
@@JAIJ47 thank you so much
HOLY SHIT they showed it!!!! WTF?! If you find that Isaac must really be fucked up to think its Nicole after that!!! This wasn't in the original was it?
This is all new in the remake's New Game+ mode
@@JAIJ47 OMG NEAT!!!
I hope this one is in New game+
Pretty sure it is. I didn't find it during my first playthrough (though I could have overlooked it but other comments here also suggest it's a New Game+ feature)
Yes you only find it in New game plus.
@@brandonchavis9218 I have only done 1 playthrough and that audio log was in my run. I think people are making this mistake as they simply didn't find it the first time around.
@@ghostofdota I'll double check on a new playthrough once I'm done with my Plasma Cutter run but everyone that I've seen so far to find this log has found it only in New Game+ and claim that on the first playthrough it's a locked console.
@@JAIJ47 Thank you, and it's completely fair for you to double check rather than take a strangers word.
Even in remake she sound plain
And belive act is joke
I kinda think that was part of the point of this encounter though since Nicole really gives off an Uncanny Valley vibe in the way she moves and talks to Isaac here
I just wish they didn’t make Nichole a 1/10
She looks so crusty and gross in the new dead space isaac looks way out of her league :’))
To be fair, they really didn't make the model look that great XD
Who is Liz?
She's the scientist working in Hydroponics to kill the Leviathan in Chapter 6
Elizabeth Cross. Girlfriend to Jacob Temple, Chief Enginner of the USG Ishimura.
Spoiler below
In the original Dead Space you only ever got a glance once at Jacob when Mercer kills him. You never saw Liz in the OG.
they pretty much spoiled the game here
Not really since this log, as far as I'm aware, is only accessible in a New Game+ playthrough.