Chenille was wrong for that idc if Sara is white but if her and Derek love is real let it be and if Sara was her friend she wouldn’t let Nikki fill her head up with that bullshit
Chenile didn't even like Nikki, I hated how she treated Sara in this scene. and if Nikki really wanted Derek so badly she wouldn't have cheated on him.
+Haitian Prince as mentioned between Chenile was harsh and out of line but remember she was just saying those things out anger. She does not share Nikki's opinion and attitude. she doesn't even like Nikki.
she was just very angry and mixed the things she was passing through with sara's situation And she was not defending nikki, she was discussing more for color and for her brother's future... but yeah everything was for anger.
LaTonia Thedford I know his comment is old it’s just I think she broke up with him because what was going on was affecting them mostly her negatively and didn’t want it to get to him
when i was 16 i had blood cancer i found out on my birthday i had it. it was really hard too deal with my life at that point but then i met someone who knew what i was going through we started out friends but a year later we fell in love this man did nothing but respect me and love me for who i was and i the same he even had respect for waiting to have sex when i get married but then i fell into a coma from bad pneumia and when i woke up from it a month later i learned Jeremy lost his battle with his brain cancer. i thought it was in remission but i later found out from his parents he was keeping the news from me but i understood why he did what he did now. he wanted to love me until the day he died with no worries i cried for weeks and months and i still do find myself crying and missing him i feel like no man can make me feel the way he did Jeremy was African american and i am white ( Irish and native american descent -- more on Irish than) i feel like no one can help who they fall in love with it just happens and its a beautiful thing to see that person for who they were as a person than what they look like Jeremy was so respectful ; he was very smart and wanted to go to college ; he was so caring and sweet ; he was always getting me to smile when i was so down; he was just this amazing person you could always count on a true friend. I will always love him and nothing can change that
Then she got to actually know him and spent time together with him she didn’t like him at first and thought he was a jerk but then she started to like him the time they spent together.
What Nikki said to Sarah was wrong, She felt jealous that Sarah was with Derek. The fact is she made the mistake of cheating on Derek and by losing him, she regretted it, she tried to win him back. But it was already too late. He moved on and met someone who loved him back.
And then she had the nerve to have a weird ass look on her face when Sara got up and left her. I would've done the same thing. Talking down on a girl that you welcomed in your life and been nothing but nice to you, and Chenille was just tripping off her baby daddy.
I know right! How can she treat Sara that way? Chenille is just mad because she herself can't find a man. And now she wants to take it out on the white girl. That is so low.
@@cappuccinolover3754 it’s literally a movie bitter bitch. The girl is literally friends with the white girl and have been friends with her since she met her
@@policethepolice3401 No dummy.... its a reflection of reality. Shenille was frustrated with the fact that Sarah has privilege. Sarah is white... she gets the ONE good guy in the hood and its clear they love each other, while the others love the same men, and get crying babies in clinics alone. All because she is the only white girl in the hood! Kenny was supposed to show up to the doctors with Shenille. But he didn't and she was tired of men chasing tail... Shenille loves Kenny. AND she is wondering why can't I get a man like how my brother is. Its not just a movie its real life. And this wine is hitting... have a blessed day! 🙌
What chenille said isn’t true. Sarah didn’t do anything wrong. Chenille was just tripping because the man that she slept with is a deadbeat to their son, she just took her anger out on Sarah but Chenille knew what she said was wrong.
She can't be that mad at him when she was at the club she grinding and having a good time with baby daddy. She knew back then he was a deadbeat don't act so surprised now smh
Chenelle was just bitter because of the choices SHE made to lay with a man who didn't love her and have a child. Women need to take as much responsibility for their actions as we expect from men.
@@Lilly-rl6upempathy isn’t pretending people don’t have to take accountability or responsibility for their own actions. It’s quite evil actually since it denies a person their autonomy. We aren’t bags floating in the wind hopelessly stuck once we land in a tree. She chose who she got into bed with. She chose to have no protection. She chose to have a baby and raise it. And Nikki cheated on her brother so she has no right to whine that good black men don’t want her. She doesn’t want them either unless it’s some game against some other girl she doesn’t like
Which is why she spouted that dumb shit about a white girl taking all the good black men. Moral is; when you frustrated or stressed, you ain’t bout to say nothing productive to nobody.😂😂😂
Pero y eso que tiene que ver con tratar mal a tu amiga? la cual te acompaño durante horas, y probablemente ella tenía cosas que hacer, y prefiero acompañar a su "amiga" y la muy hija de puta la trata como la mierda esa Sarah nunca fue racista o la trato mal pero la tipa se fue a la mierda.
African Logic why when ppl said something bad about some black people considered racist even the insult can go to the white person too, pls don’t make everything seens racist
xo sushi yes I wasn’t talking to @ zkhyia tolbik and j completely agree she doesn’t mean to be racist but i’m talking to @ african logic cause he said she’s racist
I am a black man. And after watching this scene, let me just say this. I don't care about a woman's skin color. As long as she gorgeous, kind, and not a spoiled brat, we'll get along just fine. I never understood this belief that you should only date people who are in your race. It's really stupid 😒 Oh and by the way, maybe she should have better taste in men instead of going after thugs and bad boys.
My little sister married a guy that’s half black and half Hispanic. Lucky, because of where we lived, they didn’t get attitude for their relationship. He’s a great guy, he gets along with all of us, and I think he’s a very dedicated man towards my sister and their son 😊
🙄🙄 Ok first off Nikki broke up with him and second off Chenille may have had a point to what she said but Derek didn’t start liking Sarah because she was white nor did she start liking him because he was black. If you watch the first scene they interact in, this movie could have turned out very different they kind of butted heads during a class discussion and that’s what I think solidified their relationship…it caused their curiosity and interest in each other. Now back to this, Nikki did start the fight and regardless if she was right in what she said or not she was bitter, petty and childish. She didn’t even know Sarah all she new was that she was white and that her ex which of whom I point out again that she broke up with LIKED HER!!!!! So if she felt some kind of way that serves her right. Sarah didn’t cause Nikki to miss out on a good man, it’s Nikki’s fault for being too blind to see that that’s what he was and that’s what she had…. Sarah ain’t have nothin to apologize for in my extremely personal opinion. Now Chenille was harsh with Sarah and regardless if what she said had SOME truth to it, you can tell that yes she was just taking it out on her cause she was mad at her nasty no father wanna be ex boyfriend but on the other hand if you that mad then give the baby to Sarah go to bathroom call him and go off on him don’t go off on her!!! And my thing is this is not the first time he’s disappointed her and her son, so there was no reason for her to even bring up such things nor speak or act that way towards Sarah.
Chenille was dead wrong for coming at Sarah the way she did. As much as she liked Sarah, I don't think she wanted her brother to be with Sarah. She realized she was wrong once Sarah walked out. Unfortunately, she never truly apologized to Sarah. Instead, she gave a secondhand apology to her brother.
When I was younger I didn’t like what Chenille said. I thought she sounded bitter. But now being older and rewatching this scene I think the point went over a lot of people’s heads. Its not just about Derrick Dating Sarah, its about her white privilege and not understanding what minorities go through. It should be noted that Chenille is just mad and stressed out in this scene so I’m assuming shes just taking some of har anger out on Sarah. But she told no lies. But i don’t think Sarah deserved all that. Shes just a teenager.
Don't give me that. If this was about white privilege, Chenille would go to Capitol Hill. She would educate herself and pass that on to teach others. She would do something real and legit about it. Not personally lash out at her friend and a good person.
lilburrellbaby i clearly understand it too, but its not sarah's fault chenille chose a deadbeat to be the father of her son. A lot of women of similar urban environments do the same and then get mad at the whole world. Seriously? C’mon their life is their responsability... Ps: i’m black
@Jody Doherty unfortunately not only black women make bad choices when it comes to procreate. Women of all ethnic backgrounds have a preference for bad boys then complain about the consequences
OK I understand that Chenille has stuggles that every teen mom faces with the baby's father not being in the picture anf all but I disagree with her here on the fact that she's taking it out on Sarah especially because Sarah has nothing to do with that relationship at all whatsoever and for her to say to Sarah the things that she said about how she thinks that their relationship is wrong because they're an interacial at least so the fact that Chenille is even bringing her problems with the relationship with her babies father into the picture and blaming Sarah for it is not called for at all that's just spiteful and mean and the fact that Chenille is even sticking up for Nikki is just messed up when she don't even like Nikki it makes her look bad all the way around her and Sarah are friends she;s supposed to be defending Sarah
Dom Sansotta your missing the point. She was referring to Sarah’s white privilege which she isn’t aware she has. I don’t blame sarah tho because shes young. But yeah, its doesn’t mean anything if your a white person who is just friends with a black person but isn’t concerned about the struggles they face.
when i was 16 i had blood cancer i found out on my birthday i had it. it was really hard too deal with my life at that point but then i met someone who knew what i was going through we started out friends but a year later we fell in love this man did nothing but respect me and love me for who i was and i the same he even had respect for waiting to have sex when i get married but then i fell into a coma from bad pneumia and when i woke up from it a month later i learned Jeremy lost his battle with his brain cancer. i thought it was in remission but i later found out from his parents he was keeping the news from me but i understood why he did what he did now. he wanted to love me until the day he died with no worries i cried for weeks and months and i still do find myself crying and missing him i feel like no man can make me feel the way he did Jeremy was African american and i am white ( Irish and native american descent -- more on Irish than) i feel like no one can help who they fall in love with it just happens and its a beautiful thing to see that person for who they were as a person than what they look like Jeremy was so respectful ; he was very smart and wanted to go to college ; he was so caring and sweet ; he was always getting me to smile when i was so down; he was just this amazing person you could always count on a true friend. I will always love him and nothing can change that
@@Aries16603 No she didn't, there is no "shortage" of good black men. Chenille could've chosen a better black man instead of taking it out on Sarah, its called accountability.
@@africanlogic757 its called safe sex. its also called being a responsible young adult. starting in the 2000's single motherhood skyrocketed. one reason is beacuse of single father homes. another is sex eduaction was completely neglected. they coddled their children to the point of no one thinks of consequences anymore. especially today. we are heading to hell in a handbasket. 90% of the females i knew that i went to school with are single mothers and its cultural problem and not a black culture problem or white but an american one.
Chenille was such a hypocrite though. The beginning of the movie Sara sits with those nerdy black guys in the cafeteria and Chenille says she doesn’t want to catch her sitting at that table again. Yeah maybe because they’re nerdy BUT they might be ones who make a good career for themselves and take care of their family & kids. But she dismisses them for Pepsi guy who don’t see his kid. She made her choice 😂 So saying that Sara is taking the only black guy who’s going to amount to anything please 🙄
Right and Nikki (the black girl) who Chenille didn’t like by the way was the one who played Derek (the good brotha). Don’t get mad because a white girl came in the picture and treated him better.
Facts! A lot of the geeky seeming black dudes I went school with are making SERIOUS money now and even they tell me that the black women who rejected them before keep on messaging them on Facebook LOL
Her and nikki fell for the alluring bad boys smh. Clearly they think highly of themselves to settle for the “boring good guy.” It’s not Sara’s fault lmfaoo
I think Chenille was too harsh. If Sara had acted insensitive to the issue after being told how upset Chenille was then yes, she'd deserve this. But she was a typical naive teen, clueless about what it's like to be a minority. The response to ignorance should be education, not derision. If Chenille's so mad why not get on Derek's case about choosing to date a white girl? He's the half of the couple that should be aware of the race dynamics. Not that I agree with her. I hate judgments like these. You can't choose who you love. I'm Asian so marrying outside of our culture, even other Asian cultures, has been a huge issue in my family in the past. But I sure as hell didn't get on my brother's case when he married a white girl.
+luciddreams I agree that Chenille was harsh and yes sara was naive and clueless to what is going on in the issues that minorities face. I think it was totally unfair to get on sara's case when Derek is a part of the relationship as well. Derek deserves half blame. However it's derek's and sara's decision to make, not for a bunch of bitter black men and women to decide who you date.
Because not that doesn't hate them dating i don't care about that but more so upset about Sara being clueless about the reason that why she said Niki had no right to get into her business. The whole thing truly about her saying if you going black friends and a black boyfriend then maybe she should educate herself on the issues our community face
Agreed, but I don't like when black women put the blame on non-black women. Sarah didn't ask for Derek to want her; she was just trying to fit into a new environment. Derek was the one that was so impressed by the white girl trying to fit in because ONE black girl broke is heart. I know Chenille was just frustrated but Sarah was taking a black and trying to put her in his world. She was just trying to fit into his world and happen to find him.
It wasn't nice how she came for Sara in this scene and one that stands out for me in this film, but think it was more the way she said it, than what she said. At the end of the day, it's the truth, black women can feel a way about non-black women being in relationship with our good black men.
I honestly don’t get this, so forgive if what I’m about to say might be ignorant. I believe if someone genuinely likes another person, skin color, race or nationality shouldn’t matter. There’s no shame or problem in having a type, or liking someone who looks different than your own. Someone liking someone different and being with them, does not mean they are trying to take the entire population away. Whoever your with, it’s your own personal decision, and it’s weird to me that some people feel entitled to be angry or bothered by swing people with different backgrounds or history being together. I don’t mean to be disrespectful at all, I just don’t understand the mentality behind it.
Well that’s just weirddd! It’s your choice to pick better type of men. I’m not having there’s just a tiny minority of ‘good’ black men that need saving from white women because there aren’t enough to go round for black women. You’re saying it like they are an endangered species 😂 And if a ‘good’ black man prefers a white woman over you then maybe you should feel some type a way about him instead of just blaming the women. It’s like me saying as a white woman I don’t want to see any white men dating any race but white. I don’t own them all 😂 They can date who they like! Black, Asian, Hispanic, white. It’s not up to me and I couldn’t care less who white men want to date and if no white men wanted to date me because they was too busy dating every other race then who cares! I have enough respect for myself to not chase people who don’t want me.
This movie was made for white people to alleviate their white guilt and make them feel like "good" and "progressive" white people for wanting to interracial date while ignoring history.
The whole movie Nikki was just jealous. She had Derek first, but she didn't appreciate him when she had him, then he falls for Sara and her desperate attempts to get them back failed (like dancing all up on him at Steps) Nikki takes it out on Sara, attacks her and makes it racial because Derek fell for a white girl after Nikki didn't treat him right
I agree with Kerry. It is still like that. But mostly Hispanics now but also whites dating more black men. I don't have no problem with interracial dating but now it is like everywhere! It is barely any black men or boys who want to date a fully black girl. Not mixed but black. I thought it was romantic to see interracial dating at first but now that's what most black guys want. What about us!!!
***** actually i just noticed all the comments you've made throughout the last two years. Just unsubscribe from them. But anyway I'm not gonna spend time talking to an angry person. try to enjoy 2017 and be open minded this year. Well wishes :)
***** I can't help ignorant or racist ppl. I can only be happy for me and my immediate inner circle. If I can fight my own battles so can other people. I know evil exists and I know good is alive as well. I just choose not to focus on the negative every other day and just do what I need to do to be successful. What other people do with their lives and the people in them will have absolutely no affect on me. People who "look like me" can defend and make decisions themselves. You don't have to help people by posting negative propaganda. Those who feel the way you feel will date within their race. Those who feel opposite will continue to do what pleases them. And side note I was saying u can unsubscribe from the thread. You can turn off comment notifications if u choose too.
***** Actually. Your Words are hate mixed with animosity and self righteous. Notice how I've never called you out of your name once. But you have in every post. You see I am a believer in progression. You probably don't agree with gay rights or the transgender identity. All things controversial. Something humans will have to work through. See interracial relationships are going to happen and they are going to keep happening years from now. I am a college student that works to support herself. There's temptation and offers lurking all around me. I say no to that shit. The extra money from old men the drugs I'm offered. I can't change the world right now. I can't stop racism. I can only pray it that someday it mostly runs out. I don't deny it. I just cannot do anything about it. I really dont have anything more to say to you. You're rude and I refuse to be talked down to by an arrogant a-hole who thinks she knows the whole world and what lies in every single persons heart. I tried talking. I tried explaining. You're a person whom if the person you're talking to doesn't agree then you're pretty much like "well fuck you" and that my dear will NOT get you far in life. To survive then you have to adapt. If you live in America then you really need to adapt. Times changes. The old racist people from back then will die and take their hate and anger with them and as this generation grows, tolerance and acceptance will be rich in bloom and it will be you as an outcast. This movie was far from the first to explore interacial relations. Movies dating back to before the 50s talked about it. You know during Jim crow and such. So I don't think that "those" people had an agenda. You should listen to Dr. Kings I have a dream speech (that's if you're a fan of his) and really listen. Like the world doesn't revolve and me and all of my views necessarily. It doesn't revolve you and your opinions either.
I've never been a fan of this way of thinking or that people see good black men or all black men in such a way. To people like that, black men aren't people, but a commodity, and good black men are a more valuable commodity, a prize to be won. Something that they're entitled to because they have similar physical characteristics. People must be free to make their own choices. The fact that she or anyone feels 'hurt' by that choice is on them, not on the interracial couple. To view the world in such a way is dehumanizing, and highly illogical.
TripleA9000 sickening isn't it? Like good black men are a prize to be won. They can't be with whom they choose to be with or make their own decisions because someone that looks like them may get their feelings hurt. And some people actually strongly feel that way. Sad state the world is in
Hippiegoddess142 no i never said that. I'm just saying the way some (Key word some) black women speak about black men, like there property. Almost like there not individuals who are so much more than just "black men" but actual humans. You can't make anyone be in a relationship with you nor should you guilt trip them on their life decisions.
Hippiegoddess142 no I'm saying that they're not prizes and that simply being the same race as them does not entitle you or anyone to a relationship with them. They're free to make their own choices. You have to respect and accept that.
TripleA9000 I respect anyone who doesn't pass off refusing to date any black woman as "preferences" or "free to do what they want." White women feel entitled over black men more than us anyway, so this certaintly was not a realistic portray on how black women think.
Girls with deadbeat baby daddy's always feel their brother is perfect and would be the most amazing partner & father and they're so jealous of any female their brother is with
Chenille had no business being mean to Sara. When Derek chose Sara he made the right choice. There's nothing wrong with Interracial Dating. All that matters is they have God first, A Good Personality, Heart and Soul!
i hate to admit there are still people out here that do have an issue with the interracial dating and from all sides of the black and white fence. (Higher Learning had a really good and brief good example from another perspective) That is what she was referring to mostly as far as what Nikki said. However NIkki was still wrong to the fullest she played Derek, he moved on as an extra blow to her ego it happened to be with Sarah. Chenile realized at the very end she hurt Sarah's feelings (of which i don't personally think she meant to do) and she regretted it. And its like she told Derek she was tripping off Kenny because of how things where going with him and being a single teen mom albeit things before the baby with Kenny were probably good but life's responsibility of being a new parent was kicking him in his butt and yes he had played his part in all of it and really needed to man up. I think at the very end at the club Chenile was a bit apprehensive on how to apologize to Sarah and whether or not she would accept. When wrong people a simple "i apologize" or" I'm sorry" comes in many forms and other words.
When I was in the US for about six months, I saw a lot of racism, and what I say is... Everybody can be w whoever they want. A lot of people may sink with a thousand of excuses tho. Not me!
Chenille was worse than Nikki and Malakai, combined!! Not that the latter two were any better, but at least, they were honest about where they stood with interracialism. Chenille was two-faced, unpredictable and HORRIBLY arrogant! First, she welcomes Sarah's arrival with an abrasive lesson about leaving her possessions on the ground (even though, logically, a person can only hold so many things at once, when opening a locker), then, after acting sympathic towards Sarah for her "new kid"-status and relationship with Derek, she OUT OF NOWHERE, scolds Sarah in public and berates her knowledge of society. Then, at the end of the film, without so much as an apology or any acknowledgement of her behavior, she acts like Sarah's her best friend, again. Unbelievable! She had the right to an opinion on the matter, but using it to belittle and mistreat an innocent person was 100% wrong.
WebExaminer Naw you tripping because this scene she went off on her for no reason!! But chenille was the first friend that Sara had Nikki couldn’t stand Sara in when Sara in Derek went out that made her jealous!!! Yeah chenille was wrong but she wasn’t two faces...
I mean at the end of the day Sara is right...she and Derek like eachother, its him and her, not them and other people. That's kinda the point of a relationship. Everything else here is Chenille's own insecurities, envy and stress bubbling up to the surface. And god freaking damn, for all this talk about not objectifying people in relationships, this was a stellar example of objectification and done by one of the character's sister.
No she didn’t Sara knew about the problems with interracial relationship she even got it on the bus and she played it off with Derek…..sometimes you have to just live your life and not care what nobody thinks Sara and Derek was doing good before chanielle said that
I am totally agree what Chennille said white chicks need to have a loooooot of space between them and black guys they have to have a littkle respect in pást time they never even thought in been with a black guy and it should be stay like that in this time.
It's called what ur heart falls for , it doesn't matter if ur lover is white , black, yellow , u don't love his / her skin color , u love what's really insidee the person periodt.
@@jhoanavelasquez6775 i don't know what that is , here in north africa , some of us are white , some of us are black but we r all africain nd we never had problem with each other , there are no diffrences between us , we have the same race , we north africain belong to all of africa , our ancestors were black and white , so for us it doesn't bother us, we donnow what " black and white " means anyway , we r just people , we love each other no matter what our skin color is , so maaybe in this scene she was just being racist that's all
@@jhoanavelasquez6775 1) That's racist, honey. 2) Not everyone lives in America. I know it's hard for such an arrogant country and populace to think but white people can live wuite harmoniously with people who are not in other countries.
She was explaining to her it's always safe sex honey. They are in a clinic you know with free condoms. And that had to be said. Because most of these men don't believe in safe sex.
I was so asleep back then when I would watch this movie back in the day. Chenille was 100% right in what she said to Sarah. A lot of white people, especially white women don't understand that we as black people have a different experience living in a very corrupt system that looks down on and mistreats minorities. We don't have white privilege meaning that we get judged and treated differently by the colour of our skin. Furthermore, black men date outside of their race more than any other demographic out there. Despite a lot of black women being loyal to and supportive of black men no matter what, a lot of them choose to be with and uplift other races of women more than their own, especially when they obtain some sort of "high status" in life, when they become rich and famous for example. Although the way she made her point to Sarah was wrong, but what she said was true.
Agreed!!! And so many people here keep using words like “angry” and “not nice,” which just fuels the angry black woman stereotype. She told Sarah to look out of her own perspective, and she didn’t even blatantly say that Sarah was in the wrong, all she said was that she needed to gain some insight to her world, and Sarah left ! People keep saying that Chenille showed her true colors here, but it’s crystal clear who really was.
@@liberty6550 Agreed! And I understand that it's typical for those who are not black to view our truth, our life experiences as hate speech, as mean. But that's what their viewpoint is like when they don't know what it's like to be a black person in this world. They can never comprehend what we go through, on a daily basis, without walking a mile in our shoes.
As a black man I tell you you’re 101% right, however it’s not sarah's fault chenille chose an irresponsible deadbeat to be te father of her son. Remember on the beginning of the movie she doesn’t want Sara to sit with nerds, guess what: those nerds will make a great career for themselves and take care of their families and children. Unfortunately in large segments of the black community being successful in school, articulate, polite, educated and responsible is perceived as “acting white” and “uncle tomming” well that has to change asap for our own good. Be blessed sister
@@MRPhoto_Digital I've noticed it too - a lot of black men who love black women tend to be overlooked because they are "good guys" and don't fit into the "bad boy" category. But then again, a lot of the responsible, educated, good black men tend to go after the "baddies" while also overlooking the "plain jane" black women who fall into the "good girl" category. One of the biggest mistakes that we often make when it comes to dating our own is that we look at the status, reputation and exterior of the individual rather than paying more attention to the character, the heart. Although, looks do matter because we want to be attracted to the person that we're interested in, however the substance of the person should determine whether or not the person is worth it in the first place.
It could have been any other girl of any background and Nikki would still be mad and Chenille would still lash out. The point is that Nikki cheated in Derek and left him, Chenille found herself an unreliable man (love, love, love - you are a mother now, you have child, you had a bad mother yourself, grow up and think about your son and not his father who is childish) and Sara decided to date a nice guy. Sara was naive not because she is stupid or mean, but because she grew up in good conditions. She didn't break up Derek and Nikki, she was there for Chenille (and going to doctors appointment with a kid alone is hell, believe me, so Chenille should have been grateful for not being all by herself there) and she had her own issues. So what should she have done? Feel bad for dating Derek? Why? Just because ahe is white? She lost her mom, she blamed herself, she changed both homes and schools, she lost herself. Sorry, but I don't see how she was anywhere wrong.
Chenille didn’t come off as mean at all. If you think so, then you’re the problem. Sara is a privileged girl who has had it easy her whole life. She’s clueless about the real world and the struggles that the black community faces on a daily. Chenille was just telling her to put herself into another perspective.
Someone help me out. I can’t remember where but I’ve seen that little girl in 0:41 that stares at Sarah. But I can’t remember what other movie she was in. Somebody pls help me remember .
Do you think in the original script it was "Pretty blue eyes" but had to be changed when they cast a brown eyed woman? I always thought that comment didn't make sense since she was talking about race and all races have brown eyes.
Actually both chenille and sara are right. Sara not thinking about race she thinking her boyfriend ex trying to get him back that how she sees it but Chenille telling her that even though Nikki shouldn't got to her face she telling her some people feel in the black community feels white people already took everything from us and treat us like we are below them they have come in take one few good educated black men that doesn't sell drugs, not in a gang isn't baby daddy deadbeat from a black woman. When she told her take good look around means truly peep who are and peep where you are
As was already said - “she is frustrated because her baby's father wasn't around. She's upset that the man SHE chose, black or not, turned out to be a dead beat. And Sarah is with a man she knows would stick around for better worse. The problem is this happens disproportionately with black women (70% of black families are headed by single mothers) and Sarah, a white woman, effectively 'contributes' to that statistic in her mind because a man that would stay and raise a family isn't even with a black woman. Bottom line is, it isn't Sarah or anyone else's responsibility to date within race or culture in order to alleviate those numbers. I understand Chenille's frustration because she's seeing it happen before her own eyes and it's almost a cliche at this point. But at no point does she take personal responsibility. Anyone 'agreeing' with her or saying 'she has a point' are stuck in a toxic mindset of blaming others for their own problems. Derek would've stayed with Nikki if she didn't cheat on him. Chenille wouldn't have been a single mother if she didn't sleep with a loser. And Sarah can't help who she falls for, that just so happens to have ambition. Don't bring others down, raise yourself up. Sarah earned Derek's respect by engaging him on an intellectual level that bloomed into a romance. He didn't want to be disrespected and that's why he didn't return to Nikki who cheated on him. He had enough self respect to be with someone that appreciated him as a person. You all need to have respect for yourselves if you're going to command it from others.“
Yea basically chenille and mean ass Nikki felt like white chicks like Sara are the reason their dating pool is in the slums . Sara’s type is taking all the real eligible bachelors while black women can only settle for bums who just want some 🐱 . She felt like black women in general weren’t good enough
I don't agree with how Chanel talked to Sarah but she made a lot of good points about black and white culture, they will never understand what black people go through.... This is a prime example of why so many black women hate when they see successful black men with white women.... She told Sarah to open up her eyes because she seems oblivious to the world around her and the people she chooses to hang out with are not, hence why Chanel said that, that is what they teach you, we blacks are taught different..... It's not Sarah's fault that Derek chose her but I understand exactly what Chanel is saying here, her tone was just harsh but she told no lies
Nah that’s stupid. BW have no business telling BM what they can do, and vice versa. Most of the ones who say that shit date white men from my experience. Chanel chose a loser to date, sleep with without protection and have a baby with. That’s her fault not white women’s fault. Maybe if she wouldn’t dismiss the black nerdy guys like at the start of the movie then she would have found a good black man. 🤔 But now she’ll Have to find one willing to pick her with a kid already. When those good black men could find any woman without kids to be with.
These comments are incredibly surprising to me especially seemingly coming from black women. As if what she said wasn't true. It was nothing less than valid. May be hurtful to here but oh well.
I don’t know why Sara got treated differently diggy is white as well so why did the other people treat Sara like shit was it cuz Sara and Derek were dating or the fact of white and black people together?
@@cupcakequeen0617 True but diggi grew up in the hood Sarah didn’t she grew up in the suburban area if you didn’t grew up in the hood people will challenge you…
When you have been on both sides this, shit hits differently. She wasn’t wrong for telling Sara that her world is different because nothing that happens to people of black color would ever happen to any other minority. But when we make it work and we’re driven and hard working and have something going on, the whites the Asians, the Hispanics, the Muslims, hell even the people who are us but jealous want to come in get a little piece of the pie so they can seem like it’s good. When in reality if we weren’t about nothing then they’d spit on us or shame us to another racist statics so they could be considered better. Mixed race Dating is hurtful and shows many layers of how forgiving black people really have to be in this world of bullshit. So as off put as Chanel might seem, she had a point to say it loud and proud.
no it's not. you're wrong and your so misguided in your own victim hood that you can't see the truth. what she said was WRONG. not only wrong but RACIST. you don't get to hate one people who love one another because you're caught in your own world. People like you who defend stuff like this are reason the community isnt going to get better.
So, you admit you are a racist. Plain and simple. What a sad, deplorable human being. Perpetual victimhood isn't a good look. Everyone is of value. Everyone.
I hate how people that the fact that Sara was with Derek. They excused the cheating Nikki did but just didn’t like Sara and Derek together because Sara white
Bianca in this movie was like me. As long as black men or other men is with and liking light skin girls but there's something about them going off with white to you. Ikr it's cheeky. But I guest I'm cheeky black huh. But, one thing I do know Sara was down to earth 🌎 and really nice. But, how light girls get here. It had to be white or spanish or french or indian genes to get here. She told her what she told her. It was the truth. She was not mean at all but her feelings conspire.
As much as I dislike how she treated Sara here, I appreciate that she later told her brother how stupid she had been to do so.
Chenille was wrong for that idc if Sara is white but if her and Derek love is real let it be and if Sara was her friend she wouldn’t let Nikki fill her head up with that bullshit
she was upset and said stuff out of anger she felt bad and apologized that’s what counts we all make mistakes
@@jenninahornagold1215 That's what I said in my comment. That I appreciated she admitted it.
@@jenninahornagold1215 she should have apologized to Sara personally.
@@ShenaeWilliams facts
The saddest moment in this scene is when the little black girl looks at her with so much resentment.
The Parents influences
British Explorer People in the hood sometime look at a person from different race different....
good white people are racist
@@africanlogic757 No you sound racist yourself.
MrSpliffstarz Lmao thanks for this comment, bc im confused whenever people say ”but if a white person....” ah shaddap. As if history never occurred 🥴
That baby in this movie is at least 18 years old now. Time flies.
Hoooooooooly O.O Jesus I got old fast
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That baby old enough to drink legally now! We old as fuck!
I wasn’t even born when this movie came out. It came out in January of 2001 and I was born in April. I’m 22 years old now.
Chenile didn't even like Nikki, I hated how she treated Sara in this scene.
and if Nikki really wanted Derek so badly she wouldn't have cheated on him.
Thank you my point exactly
+Haitian Prince as mentioned between Chenile was harsh and out of line but remember she was just saying those things out anger. She does not share Nikki's opinion and attitude. she doesn't even like Nikki.
she was just very angry and mixed the things she was passing through with sara's situation And she was not defending nikki, she was discussing more for color and for her brother's future... but yeah everything was for anger.
LaTonia Thedford I know his comment is old it’s just I think she broke up with him because what was going on was affecting them mostly her negatively and didn’t want it to get to him
when i was 16 i had blood cancer i found out on my birthday i had it.
it was really hard too deal with my life at that point
but then i met someone who knew what i was going through we started out friends but a year later we fell in love
this man did nothing but respect me and love me for who i was and i the same
he even had respect for waiting to have sex when i get married
but then i fell into a coma from bad pneumia and when i woke up from it a month later
i learned Jeremy lost his battle with his brain cancer. i thought it was in remission
but i later found out from his parents he was keeping the news from me
but i understood why he did what he did now. he wanted to love me until the day he died with no worries
i cried for weeks and months and i still do find myself crying and missing him
i feel like no man can make me feel the way he did
Jeremy was African american and i am white ( Irish and native american descent -- more on Irish than)
i feel like no one can help who they fall in love with it just happens
and its a beautiful thing to see that person for who they were as a person than what they look like
Jeremy was so respectful ; he was very smart and wanted to go to college ; he was so caring and sweet ;
he was always getting me to smile when i was so down; he was just this amazing person you could always count on a true friend. I will always love him and nothing can change that
Kerry Washington delivered in the scene. I love her as an actress.
Chenille's true colours came out in the end... she was all friendly with Sara but deep down she didn't want her brother dating a white girl...
MsMimilala yep basically
She was just taking her anger out on her. Remember how she made up with Sara at the end and was the reason Derek came to his senses
Jeffery Lewis yeah true I forgot about that
Nahh She was just upset because she was having issues with her boyfriend
@Edward89 I Agree that was wrong totally wrong and she did the right thing by walking away from her
Great Chenille. You got all the babies upset, and crying.
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Poor babies 👶🏾🤣🤣🤣
The strange thing is Sarah never started out liking Derrick and she pretty much made that clear when she first met Chenille
That is how a lot of romance movies start out. Not liking each other at first. It's classic.
Then she got to actually know him and spent time together with him she didn’t like him at first and thought he was a jerk but then she started to like him the time they spent together.
What Nikki said to Sarah was wrong, She felt jealous that Sarah was with Derek. The fact is she made the mistake of cheating on Derek and by losing him, she regretted it, she tried to win him back. But it was already too late. He moved on and met someone who loved him back.
And then she had the nerve to have a weird ass look on her face when Sara got up and left her. I would've done the same thing. Talking down on a girl that you welcomed in your life and been nothing but nice to you, and Chenille was just tripping off her baby daddy.
Corijuan Reese me too Chenille was wrong here she had no right to intervene in the relationship with Sarah and Derek When it’s none of her business
I know right! How can she treat Sara that way? Chenille is just mad because she herself can't find a man. And now she wants to take it out on the white girl. That is so low.
@@cappuccinolover3754 it’s literally a movie bitter bitch. The girl is literally friends with the white girl and have been friends with her since she met her
Remember?? She was "trippin off Kenny!!!"... lol...
@@policethepolice3401 No dummy.... its a reflection of reality. Shenille was frustrated with the fact that Sarah has privilege. Sarah is white... she gets the ONE good guy in the hood and its clear they love each other, while the others love the same men, and get crying babies in clinics alone. All because she is the only white girl in the hood! Kenny was supposed to show up to the doctors with Shenille. But he didn't and she was tired of men chasing tail... Shenille loves Kenny. AND she is wondering why can't I get a man like how my brother is. Its not just a movie its real life. And this wine is hitting... have a blessed day! 🙌
What chenille said isn’t true. Sarah didn’t do anything wrong. Chenille was just tripping because the man that she slept with is a deadbeat to their son, she just took her anger out on Sarah but Chenille knew what she said was wrong.
Yes, I agree. 👍😎
She can't be that mad at him when she was at the club she grinding and having a good time with baby daddy. She knew back then he was a deadbeat don't act so surprised now smh
I think this scene hurt everyone’s feelings who were watching the movie because Chenille went in on her outta nowhere for literally no reason.
I agree.
what she said is true you just locing this white girl because you love your slave master
Chenelle was just bitter because of the choices SHE made to lay with a man who didn't love her and have a child. Women need to take as much responsibility for their actions as we expect from men.
BAM
Ummm no. She spoke straight facts about the white girl and her presence.
She is a teenage girl from a traumatic background who now has a baby and is struggling to cope. Get some empathy.
@@Lilly-rl6up Thank you!
@@Lilly-rl6upempathy isn’t pretending people don’t have to take accountability or responsibility for their own actions.
It’s quite evil actually since it denies a person their autonomy. We aren’t bags floating in the wind hopelessly stuck once we land in a tree. She chose who she got into bed with. She chose to have no protection. She chose to have a baby and raise it.
And Nikki cheated on her brother so she has no right to whine that good black men don’t want her. She doesn’t want them either unless it’s some game against some other girl she doesn’t like
Chenille: *Lashes out on Sarah*
Also Chenille: *Looks at Sarah leaving her at the doctors all hurt and confused* But whyyyyy?
I think the look was guilt not anger...It was oh shit I went too far look
It was more of " dang, I shouldn't said all of that " guilt look.
Cuz she felt bad she took her anger out on her.
@@MrRickymoore right
Because Sarah was offended I would've walked out too!!!!
This movie is so important. It's more than just dance.
It’s still insane that we have problems like this in 2023.
As a mom now waiting for an hour at a doctor's office is super difficult with a fussy baby. Super stressful.
Which is why she spouted that dumb shit about a white girl taking all the good black men. Moral is; when you frustrated or stressed, you ain’t bout to say nothing productive to nobody.😂😂😂
Pero y eso que tiene que ver con tratar mal a tu amiga? la cual te acompaño durante horas, y probablemente ella tenía cosas que hacer, y prefiero acompañar a su "amiga" y la muy hija de puta la trata como la mierda esa Sarah nunca fue racista o la trato mal pero la tipa se fue a la mierda.
She didn’t mean it, she “Was Trippin Off KENNY!!” 😭😭😂😂💀💀💀
😂😂😂😂😂
She should have took that up with him then
@@EdwardC.WilliamsII 😭😭
Sara was nice to chenille. Chenille was mean to Sara I would have left her too
Shows how racist you and this woman is.
African Logic why when ppl said something bad about some black people considered racist even the insult can go to the white person too, pls don’t make everything seens racist
xo sushi yes I wasn’t talking to @ zkhyia tolbik and j completely agree she doesn’t mean to be racist but i’m talking to @ african logic cause he said she’s racist
@@africanlogic757 Would you shut up? Gotta comment with rude shit in every thread!!
African Logic racist? Its not Sara’s fault chenille chose an irresponsible deadbeat to be the father of her son.
Ps: i’m black...
I am a black man. And after watching this scene, let me just say this. I don't care about a woman's skin color. As long as she gorgeous, kind, and not a spoiled brat, we'll get along just fine. I never understood this belief that you should only date people who are in your race. It's really stupid 😒 Oh and by the way, maybe she should have better taste in men instead of going after thugs and bad boys.
Most Wanted Films you didnt get it lol
WELL SAID 👏👏👏👏
love black explain..?!?
My little sister married a guy that’s half black and half Hispanic. Lucky, because of where we lived, they didn’t get attitude for their relationship.
He’s a great guy, he gets along with all of us, and I think he’s a very dedicated man towards my sister and their son 😊
@@jaypritchett6846 👏👏👏👏😁💙
Nobody says shit about American History. But when it's said here it's some huge problem.
🙄🙄 Ok first off Nikki broke up with him and second off Chenille may have had a point to what she said but Derek didn’t start liking Sarah because she was white nor did she start liking him because he was black. If you watch the first scene they interact in, this movie could have turned out very different they kind of butted heads during a class discussion and that’s what I think solidified their relationship…it caused their curiosity and interest in each other. Now back to this, Nikki did start the fight and regardless if she was right in what she said or not she was bitter, petty and childish. She didn’t even know Sarah all she new was that she was white and that her ex which of whom I point out again that she broke up with LIKED HER!!!!! So if she felt some kind of way that serves her right.
Sarah didn’t cause Nikki to miss out on a good man, it’s Nikki’s fault for being too blind to see that that’s what he was and that’s what she had…. Sarah ain’t have nothin to apologize for in my extremely personal opinion. Now Chenille was harsh with Sarah and regardless if what she said had SOME truth to it, you can tell that yes she was just taking it out on her cause she was mad at her nasty no father wanna be ex boyfriend but on the other hand if you that mad then give the baby to Sarah go to bathroom call him and go off on him don’t go off on her!!! And my thing is this is not the first time he’s disappointed her and her son, so there was no reason for her to even bring up such things nor speak or act that way towards Sarah.
Loved kerry Washington in this scene !
Me too!
She’s an amazing actress
Beautiful and Amazing Actress.
Kerry in Hood Roles is fantastic. Then She was all sidity and powerful in Scandal
Kerry Washington is very much a powerful talented actress
Chenille was dead wrong for coming at Sarah the way she did. As much as she liked Sarah, I don't think she wanted her brother to be with Sarah. She realized she was wrong once Sarah walked out. Unfortunately, she never truly apologized to Sarah. Instead, she gave a secondhand apology to her brother.
When I was younger I didn’t like what Chenille said. I thought she sounded bitter. But now being older and rewatching this scene I think the point went over a lot of people’s heads. Its not just about Derrick Dating Sarah, its about her white privilege and not understanding what minorities go through. It should be noted that Chenille is just mad and stressed out in this scene so I’m assuming shes just taking some of har anger out on Sarah. But she told no lies. But i don’t think Sarah deserved all that. Shes just a teenager.
Thanks for saying this.
I agree. She obviosly didn't have to treat her like that... But it's not completely wrong what she said.
Don't give me that. If this was about white privilege, Chenille would go to Capitol Hill. She would educate herself and pass that on to teach others. She would do something real and legit about it. Not personally lash out at her friend and a good person.
White people have it hard as well
@@tpbfangirl of course. But white privilege isn’t saying that white ppl don’t face struggles. Its just saying they have less obstacles to face.
I don't agree w/ Chenille saying that Sara but i do understand where she was coming from tho.
lilburrellbaby i clearly understand it too, but its not sarah's fault chenille chose a deadbeat to be the father of her son. A lot of women of similar urban environments do the same and then get mad at the whole world. Seriously? C’mon their life is their responsability...
Ps: i’m black
@Jody Doherty unfortunately not only black women make bad choices when it comes to procreate. Women of all ethnic backgrounds have a preference for bad boys then complain about the consequences
OK I understand that Chenille has stuggles that every teen mom faces with the baby's father not being in the picture anf all but I disagree with her here on the fact that she's taking it out on Sarah especially because Sarah has nothing to do with that relationship at all whatsoever and for her to say to Sarah the things that she said about how she thinks that their relationship is wrong because they're an interacial at least so the fact that Chenille is even bringing her problems with the relationship with her babies father into the picture and blaming Sarah for it is not called for at all that's just spiteful and mean and the fact that Chenille is even sticking up for Nikki is just messed up when she don't even like Nikki it makes her look bad all the way around her and Sarah are friends she;s supposed to be defending Sarah
Dom Sansotta your missing the point. She was referring to Sarah’s white privilege which she isn’t aware she has. I don’t blame sarah tho because shes young. But yeah, its doesn’t mean anything if your a white person who is just friends with a black person but isn’t concerned about the struggles they face.
when i was 16 i had blood cancer i found out on my birthday i had it.
it was really hard too deal with my life at that point
but then i met someone who knew what i was going through we started out friends but a year later we fell in love
this man did nothing but respect me and love me for who i was and i the same
he even had respect for waiting to have sex when i get married
but then i fell into a coma from bad pneumia and when i woke up from it a month later
i learned Jeremy lost his battle with his brain cancer. i thought it was in remission
but i later found out from his parents he was keeping the news from me
but i understood why he did what he did now. he wanted to love me until the day he died with no worries
i cried for weeks and months and i still do find myself crying and missing him
i feel like no man can make me feel the way he did
Jeremy was African american and i am white ( Irish and native american descent -- more on Irish than)
i feel like no one can help who they fall in love with it just happens
and its a beautiful thing to see that person for who they were as a person than what they look like
Jeremy was so respectful ; he was very smart and wanted to go to college ; he was so caring and sweet ;
he was always getting me to smile when i was so down; he was just this amazing person you could always count on a true friend. I will always love him and nothing can change that
Teardropangel30 i fel so sorry for you, all the strength of the world to you 💪🏾❤️
This could be a book. You should write your love story.
Sorry for your loss. This would make a great book
Jeremy still loves you and he is praying for you in Heaven, where he is with Jesus.
Sorry for your loss.
The most shocking and random lash out in movie history.
Jo Dunk Naw that just dumb because your boyfriend don’t want be there for his!!! But don’t get mad because your brother girlfriend....
No it's true.
@@Aries16603 How is that a point when she’s lashing out on her problem that has got nothing to do with Derek and his gf.
@@Aries16603 No she didn't, there is no "shortage" of good black men. Chenille could've chosen a better black man instead of taking it out on Sarah, its called accountability.
@@africanlogic757 its called safe sex. its also called being a responsible young adult. starting in the 2000's single motherhood skyrocketed. one reason is beacuse of single father homes. another is sex eduaction was completely neglected. they coddled their children to the point of no one thinks of consequences anymore. especially today. we are heading to hell in a handbasket. 90% of the females i knew that i went to school with are single mothers and its cultural problem and not a black culture problem or white but an american one.
Chenille was such a hypocrite though. The beginning of the movie Sara sits with those nerdy black guys in the cafeteria and Chenille says she doesn’t want to catch her sitting at that table again. Yeah maybe because they’re nerdy BUT they might be ones who make a good career for themselves and take care of their family & kids. But she dismisses them for Pepsi guy who don’t see his kid. She made her choice 😂 So saying that Sara is taking the only black guy who’s going to amount to anything please 🙄
Laura bingo, you just nailed the point
Right and Nikki (the black girl) who Chenille didn’t like by the way was the one who played Derek (the good brotha). Don’t get mad because a white girl came in the picture and treated him better.
Facts! A lot of the geeky seeming black dudes I went school with are making SERIOUS money now and even they tell me that the black women who rejected them before keep on messaging them on Facebook LOL
You got a point lolll she has the lowest of standards and set herself up to become just another babymama in the hood . Glad I can’t relate .
Her and nikki fell for the alluring bad boys smh. Clearly they think highly of themselves to settle for the “boring good guy.” It’s not Sara’s fault lmfaoo
I think Chenille was too harsh. If Sara had acted insensitive to the issue after being told how upset Chenille was then yes, she'd deserve this. But she was a typical naive teen, clueless about what it's like to be a minority. The response to ignorance should be education, not derision. If Chenille's so mad why not get on Derek's case about choosing to date a white girl? He's the half of the couple that should be aware of the race dynamics. Not that I agree with her. I hate judgments like these. You can't choose who you love. I'm Asian so marrying outside of our culture, even other Asian cultures, has been a huge issue in my family in the past. But I sure as hell didn't get on my brother's case when he married a white girl.
+luciddreams I agree that Chenille was harsh and yes sara was naive and clueless to what is going on in the issues that minorities face. I think it was totally unfair to get on sara's case when Derek is a part of the relationship as well. Derek deserves half blame. However it's derek's and sara's decision to make, not for a bunch of bitter black men and women to decide who you date.
What’s crazy is later in the movie Chenille said the same thing you said, “you can’t help who you love”
Because not that doesn't hate them dating i don't care about that but more so upset about Sara being clueless about the reason that why she said Niki had no right to get into her business. The whole thing truly about her saying if you going black friends and a black boyfriend then maybe she should educate herself on the issues our community face
@luciddreams 👏👏👏👏😁😁❤🖤. GOOD 4 YOU
@@mikelaw9317 I think it good to educate yourself about different cultures, however, every community has issues.
I feel both sides tho they are both right in a certain type of way
Agreed, but I don't like when black women put the blame on non-black women. Sarah didn't ask for Derek to want her; she was just trying to fit into a new environment. Derek was the one that was so impressed by the white girl trying to fit in because ONE black girl broke is heart. I know Chenille was just frustrated but Sarah was taking a black and trying to put her in his world. She was just trying to fit into his world and happen to find him.
Chanelle isn’t right. No one has to stick to one race of men in order to find someone. If you want better then choose better. Don’t blame other women.
Says the black woman who is apart of a demograph who wont even touch white men.
Hypocrite.
@@ashton606 who are you talking about?
It wasn't nice how she came for Sara in this scene and one that stands out for me in this film, but think it was more the way she said it, than what she said. At the end of the day, it's the truth, black women can feel a way about non-black women being in relationship with our good black men.
I honestly don’t get this, so forgive if what I’m about to say might be ignorant. I believe if someone genuinely likes another person, skin color, race or nationality shouldn’t matter. There’s no shame or problem in having a type, or liking someone who looks different than your own. Someone liking someone different and being with them, does not mean they are trying to take the entire population away. Whoever your with, it’s your own personal decision, and it’s weird to me that some people feel entitled to be angry or bothered by swing people with different backgrounds or history being together. I don’t mean to be disrespectful at all, I just don’t understand the mentality behind it.
Well that’s just weirddd! It’s your choice to pick better type of men. I’m not having there’s just a tiny minority of ‘good’ black men that need saving from white women because there aren’t enough to go round for black women. You’re saying it like they are an endangered species 😂 And if a ‘good’ black man prefers a white woman over you then maybe you should feel some type a way about him instead of just blaming the women. It’s like me saying as a white woman I don’t want to see any white men dating any race but white. I don’t own them all 😂 They can date who they like! Black, Asian, Hispanic, white. It’s not up to me and I couldn’t care less who white men want to date and if no white men wanted to date me because they was too busy dating every other race then who cares! I have enough respect for myself to not chase people who don’t want me.
@@Laurakate_xo 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I understand both sides
Well...i believe good black men have the right to date whoever they desire.
That little girl had me dying!!!! 😂💀
Olivia Pope telling off Sara at the clinic.
lol..didn't know it was her!!! I've watched iit on Oxygen about 5-6 times.
Whats bothering me is the little girl looks famaliar too.
The way she treated Sara is the way my "ex friends" would treat me thats why there my "ex friends" always got treated like crap
Chenile acted like a true Hater!! Girl handle your baby father issues before tackling someone else! Derek was right ''Stay Out My Business''!!
At least Chenille realizes later that she didn’t mean it. She was just petty about her baby daddy, & Sara’s been nothing but a good friend to her
She didn't realize she needed to apologize to Sara.
let be honest no one ever said "slammin'" ever.
This movie was made for white people to alleviate their white guilt and make them feel like "good" and "progressive" white people for wanting to interracial date while ignoring history.
They do in movies.
@@NeoAndersonChannel1 Then, you looked up who made this movie?
@@NeoAndersonChannel1 Fuck all of you who want to encourage tribalism based on race. And--ignoring AMERICAN hsitory. Not the same everywhere, asshole.
I thought I was the only who notice that word was not in and corny
The whole movie Nikki was just jealous. She had Derek first, but she didn't appreciate him when she had him, then he falls for Sara and her desperate attempts to get them back failed (like dancing all up on him at Steps) Nikki takes it out on Sara, attacks her and makes it racial because Derek fell for a white girl after Nikki didn't treat him right
Sitting in a clinic with her friend for hours and her crying baby screaming in her head on top of that u talking to me like that...am out
I agree with Kerry. It is still like that. But mostly Hispanics now but also whites dating more black men. I don't have no problem with interracial dating but now it is like everywhere! It is barely any black men or boys who want to date a fully black girl. Not mixed but black. I thought it was romantic to see interracial dating at first but now that's what most black guys want. What about us!!!
+Zipporah Johnson Just find you a white guy. Problem solved ! Do not limited yourself. I do not only date asian men.
aѕajj For someone that doesn't agree with the theme of this movie you sure like coming back and looking this scene.
***** actually i just noticed all the comments you've made throughout the last two years. Just unsubscribe from them. But anyway I'm not gonna spend time talking to an angry person. try to enjoy 2017 and be open minded this year. Well wishes :)
***** I can't help ignorant or racist ppl. I can only be happy for me and my immediate inner circle. If I can fight my own battles so can other people. I know evil exists and I know good is alive as well. I just choose not to focus on the negative every other day and just do what I need to do to be successful. What other people do with their lives and the people in them will have absolutely no affect on me. People who "look like me" can defend and make decisions themselves. You don't have to help people by posting negative propaganda. Those who feel the way you feel will date within their race. Those who feel opposite will continue to do what pleases them. And side note I was saying u can unsubscribe from the thread. You can turn off comment notifications if u choose too.
***** Actually. Your Words are hate mixed with animosity and self righteous. Notice how I've never called you out of your name once. But you have in every post. You see I am a believer in progression. You probably don't agree with gay rights or the transgender identity. All things controversial. Something humans will have to work through. See interracial relationships are going to happen and they are going to keep happening years from now. I am a college student that works to support herself. There's temptation and offers lurking all around me. I say no to that shit. The extra money from old men the drugs I'm offered. I can't change the world right now. I can't stop racism. I can only pray it that someday it mostly runs out. I don't deny it. I just cannot do anything about it. I really dont have anything more to say to you. You're rude and I refuse to be talked down to by an arrogant a-hole who thinks she knows the whole world and what lies in every single persons heart. I tried talking. I tried explaining. You're a person whom if the person you're talking to doesn't agree then you're pretty much like "well fuck you" and that my dear will NOT get you far in life. To survive then you have to adapt. If you live in America then you really need to adapt. Times changes. The old racist people from back then will die and take their hate and anger with them and as this generation grows, tolerance and acceptance will be rich in bloom and it will be you as an outcast. This movie was far from the first to explore interacial relations. Movies dating back to before the 50s talked about it. You know during Jim crow and such. So I don't think that "those" people had an agenda. You should listen to Dr. Kings I have a dream speech (that's if you're a fan of his) and really listen. Like the world doesn't revolve and me and all of my views necessarily. It doesn't revolve you and your opinions either.
I wanted to smack Chenille so bad she ain't had to come at Sara with all that crap.
I've never been a fan of this way of thinking or that people see good black men or all black men in such a way. To people like that, black men aren't people, but a commodity, and good black men are a more valuable commodity, a prize to be won. Something that they're entitled to because they have similar physical characteristics.
People must be free to make their own choices. The fact that she or anyone feels 'hurt' by that choice is on them, not on the interracial couple. To view the world in such a way is dehumanizing, and highly illogical.
TripleA9000 sickening isn't it? Like good black men are a prize to be won. They can't be with whom they choose to be with or make their own decisions because someone that looks like them may get their feelings hurt. And some people actually strongly feel that way. Sad state the world is in
tropicalprincess16 So you rather good black men not be with black women? You believe we deserve shitty partners?
Hippiegoddess142 no i never said that. I'm just saying the way some (Key word some) black women speak about black men, like there property. Almost like there not individuals who are so much more than just "black men" but actual humans. You can't make anyone be in a relationship with you nor should you guilt trip them on their life decisions.
Hippiegoddess142 no I'm saying that they're not prizes and that simply being the same race as them does not entitle you or anyone to a relationship with them. They're free to make their own choices. You have to respect and accept that.
TripleA9000 I respect anyone who doesn't pass off refusing to date any black woman as "preferences" or "free to do what they want." White women feel entitled over black men more than us anyway, so this certaintly was not a realistic portray on how black women think.
Girls with deadbeat baby daddy's always feel their brother is perfect and would be the most amazing partner & father and they're so jealous of any female their brother is with
Chenille had no business being mean to Sara. When Derek chose Sara he made the right choice. There's nothing wrong with Interracial Dating. All that matters is they have God first, A Good Personality, Heart and Soul!
And her energy is upsetting her son
i hate to admit there are still people out here that do have an issue with the interracial dating and from all sides of the black and white fence. (Higher Learning had a really good and brief good example from another perspective) That is what she was referring to mostly as far as what Nikki said. However NIkki was still wrong to the fullest she played Derek, he moved on as an extra blow to her ego it happened to be with Sarah. Chenile realized at the very end she hurt Sarah's feelings (of which i don't personally think she meant to do) and she regretted it.
And its like she told Derek she was tripping off Kenny because of how things where going with him and being a single teen mom albeit things before the baby with Kenny were probably good but life's responsibility of being a new parent was kicking him in his butt and yes he had played his part in all of it and really needed to man up.
I think at the very end at the club Chenile was a bit apprehensive on how to apologize to Sarah and whether or not she would accept. When wrong people a simple "i apologize" or" I'm sorry" comes in many forms and other words.
Its so hard to take this movie serious after watching Dance flick
Lol, I'm watching dance flick right now
That movie is too funny😂
When I was in the US for about six months, I saw a lot of racism, and what I say is... Everybody can be w whoever they want. A lot of people may sink with a thousand of excuses tho. Not me!
I'm cry, it's so sad 😭
Chenille was worse than Nikki and Malakai, combined!! Not that the latter two were any better, but at least, they were honest about where they stood with interracialism. Chenille was two-faced, unpredictable and HORRIBLY arrogant! First, she welcomes Sarah's arrival with an abrasive lesson about leaving her possessions on the ground (even though, logically, a person can only hold so many things at once, when opening a locker), then, after acting sympathic towards Sarah for her "new kid"-status and relationship with Derek, she OUT OF NOWHERE, scolds Sarah in public and berates her knowledge of society. Then, at the end of the film, without so much as an apology or any acknowledgement of her behavior, she acts like Sarah's her best friend, again. Unbelievable! She had the right to an opinion on the matter, but using it to belittle and mistreat an innocent person was 100% wrong.
WebExaminer Naw you tripping because this scene she went off on her for no reason!! But chenille was the first friend that Sara had Nikki couldn’t stand Sara in when Sara in Derek went out that made her jealous!!! Yeah chenille was wrong but she wasn’t two faces...
Yea chenille was definitely flawed in some ways, but she still had a soft spot for sis . Yea she definitely shoulda apologized. Sara better than me
Oh I hated that there was no apology from her. It was so akward
She told the truth they don’t make black men like they use to smh.
“Don’t be here just to be here?” What does that even mean??? I’m dead serious. I never fully understood what the hell she meant by that… 🤔
That Julliard audition may have been trash, but she made you feel hurt by Chenille's words in this scene
Omg!!!’ I had no idea that was Kerry Washington!!! I’ve been watching this movie forever and I just finished little fires everywhere! Wow!
The death stare from that black girl 😬
chenille had a point. ignorance is bliss
I mean at the end of the day Sara is right...she and Derek like eachother, its him and her, not them and other people. That's kinda the point of a relationship. Everything else here is Chenille's own insecurities, envy and stress bubbling up to the surface. And god freaking damn, for all this talk about not objectifying people in relationships, this was a stellar example of objectification and done by one of the character's sister.
I Love This movie But Why is Chenille is so mean to Sarah
She's emotionally overwhelmed because her baby's dad isn't exactly being a supportive father.
Looking back at it, Sara needed to know this!!
Why? What part of that was her fault?
No she didn’t Sara knew about the problems with interracial relationship she even got it on the bus and she played it off with Derek…..sometimes you have to just live your life and not care what nobody thinks Sara and Derek was doing good before chanielle said that
No she didn't
God bless u cuz u don’t make any sense
She absolutely did need to know. He’s right.
Maybe Chenille was wrong to lash out, but she does have a point, amd Sarah, if truly she wants to be a friend, could've learned something from her...
@I think I'm Happy couldn't have said it better.
What don’t date black men?
Racist or Woke, you decide
wow
That's exactly why chenille's baby daddy wasn't there with her. Look at chenille's attitude. And she took that out on sara
chenille´s baby daddy wasnt there bcuz he was a good for nuthin deadbeat
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I am totally agree what Chennille said white chicks need to have a loooooot of space between them and black guys they have to have a littkle respect in pást time they never even thought in been with a black guy and it should be stay like that in this time.
It's called what ur heart falls for , it doesn't matter if ur lover is white , black, yellow , u don't love his / her skin color , u love what's really insidee the person periodt.
@@nouralyneboudefa8148 that maybe tru but history has taught us (Black people) different.
@@jhoanavelasquez6775 i don't know what that is , here in north africa , some of us are white , some of us are black but we r all africain nd we never had problem with each other , there are no diffrences between us , we have the same race , we north africain belong to all of africa , our ancestors were black and white , so for us it doesn't bother us, we donnow what " black and white " means anyway , we r just people , we love each other no matter what our skin color is , so maaybe in this scene she was just being racist that's all
@@jhoanavelasquez6775 1) That's racist, honey. 2) Not everyone lives in America. I know it's hard for such an arrogant country and populace to think but white people can live wuite harmoniously with people who are not in other countries.
The actual state was accurate. While Chenille may have come off to harsh and /or angry the message is very true.
Exactly!!!!
I wanted to punch Chenille the first time I saw this scene. Take responsibility for your own damn misery. It wasn't Sara's fault she chose a deadbeat.
She was explaining to her it's always safe sex honey. They are in a clinic you know with free condoms. And that had to be said. Because most of these men don't believe in safe sex.
I was so asleep back then when I would watch this movie back in the day. Chenille was 100% right in what she said to Sarah. A lot of white people, especially white women don't understand that we as black people have a different experience living in a very corrupt system that looks down on and mistreats minorities. We don't have white privilege meaning that we get judged and treated differently by the colour of our skin. Furthermore, black men date outside of their race more than any other demographic out there. Despite a lot of black women being loyal to and supportive of black men no matter what, a lot of them choose to be with and uplift other races of women more than their own, especially when they obtain some sort of "high status" in life, when they become rich and famous for example. Although the way she made her point to Sarah was wrong, but what she said was true.
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Agreed!!! And so many people here keep using words like “angry” and “not nice,” which just fuels the angry black woman stereotype. She told Sarah to look out of her own perspective, and she didn’t even blatantly say that Sarah was in the wrong, all she said was that she needed to gain some insight to her world, and Sarah left ! People keep saying that Chenille showed her true colors here, but it’s crystal clear who really was.
@@liberty6550 Agreed! And I understand that it's typical for those who are not black to view our truth, our life experiences as hate speech, as mean. But that's what their viewpoint is like when they don't know what it's like to be a black person in this world. They can never comprehend what we go through, on a daily basis, without walking a mile in our shoes.
As a black man I tell you you’re 101% right, however it’s not sarah's fault chenille chose an irresponsible deadbeat to be te father of her son. Remember on the beginning of the movie she doesn’t want Sara to sit with nerds, guess what: those nerds will make a great career for themselves and take care of their families and children. Unfortunately in large segments of the black community being successful in school, articulate, polite, educated and responsible is perceived as “acting white” and “uncle tomming” well that has to change asap for our own good. Be blessed sister
@@MRPhoto_Digital I've noticed it too - a lot of black men who love black women tend to be overlooked because they are "good guys" and don't fit into the "bad boy" category. But then again, a lot of the responsible, educated, good black men tend to go after the "baddies" while also overlooking the "plain jane" black women who fall into the "good girl" category. One of the biggest mistakes that we often make when it comes to dating our own is that we look at the status, reputation and exterior of the individual rather than paying more attention to the character, the heart. Although, looks do matter because we want to be attracted to the person that we're interested in, however the substance of the person should determine whether or not the person is worth it in the first place.
It could have been any other girl of any background and Nikki would still be mad and Chenille would still lash out. The point is that Nikki cheated in Derek and left him, Chenille found herself an unreliable man (love, love, love - you are a mother now, you have child, you had a bad mother yourself, grow up and think about your son and not his father who is childish) and Sara decided to date a nice guy. Sara was naive not because she is stupid or mean, but because she grew up in good conditions. She didn't break up Derek and Nikki, she was there for Chenille (and going to doctors appointment with a kid alone is hell, believe me, so Chenille should have been grateful for not being all by herself there) and she had her own issues. So what should she have done? Feel bad for dating Derek? Why? Just because ahe is white? She lost her mom, she blamed herself, she changed both homes and schools, she lost herself. Sorry, but I don't see how she was anywhere wrong.
Sara: "Well, We Like Each Other. What Is The Big Damn Deal It's Me & Him Not Us An Other People!"
Chenille didn’t come off as mean at all. If you think so, then you’re the problem. Sara is a privileged girl who has had it easy her whole life. She’s clueless about the real world and the struggles that the black community faces on a daily. Chenille was just telling her to put herself into another perspective.
She is white ,she shouldn't have to fight black battles ,we all have our own issues
If you are the type of person who says “if you think such and such, then you’re the problem”...then you’re the problem.
@@Michelle-rv9ks doesn't that mean that you are also the problem then?🤷♂️
Finally, someone who "gets" it. Well said! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@@SRBOMBONICA86 🤣🤣🤣
Someone help me out. I can’t remember where but I’ve seen that little girl in 0:41 that stares at Sarah. But I can’t remember what other movie she was in. Somebody pls help me remember .
Aw🎧🎶🎵🎼🌈💞❤❤❤
The girl is really beautiful young woman and really fit ❤️ X
This is every walk in centre in a nutshell
What's the song when they break up ..when she walks down the school hallway and they look at each other but Malik talks to his friend at the lockers
K-Ci & JoJo - Crazy x
Do you think in the original script it was "Pretty blue eyes" but had to be changed when they cast a brown eyed woman? I always thought that comment didn't make sense since she was talking about race and all races have brown eyes.
At all because she was pissed at her deadbeat baby daddy. It ain't Sarah's fault that Chenille picked a loser to father her kids.
True.
Exactly .. she jealous cause Sarah found a good man and she didn’t
Actually both chenille and sara are right. Sara not thinking about race she thinking her boyfriend ex trying to get him back that how she sees it but Chenille telling her that even though Nikki shouldn't got to her face she telling her some people feel in the black community feels white people already took everything from us and treat us like we are below them they have come in take one few good educated black men that doesn't sell drugs, not in a gang isn't baby daddy deadbeat from a black woman. When she told her take good look around means truly peep who are and peep where you are
As was already said -
“she is frustrated because her baby's father wasn't around. She's upset that the man SHE chose, black or not, turned out to be a dead beat. And Sarah is with a man she knows would stick around for better worse. The problem is this happens disproportionately with black women (70% of black families are headed by single mothers) and Sarah, a white woman, effectively 'contributes' to that statistic in her mind because a man that would stay and raise a family isn't even with a black woman.
Bottom line is, it isn't Sarah or anyone else's responsibility to date within race or culture in order to alleviate those numbers. I understand Chenille's frustration because she's seeing it happen before her own eyes and it's almost a cliche at this point. But at no point does she take personal responsibility. Anyone 'agreeing' with her or saying 'she has a point' are stuck in a toxic mindset of blaming others for their own problems. Derek would've stayed with Nikki if she didn't cheat on him. Chenille wouldn't have been a single mother if she didn't sleep with a loser. And Sarah can't help who she falls for, that just so happens to have ambition. Don't bring others down, raise yourself up. Sarah earned Derek's respect by engaging him on an intellectual level that bloomed into a romance. He didn't want to be disrespected and that's why he didn't return to Nikki who cheated on him. He had enough self respect to be with someone that appreciated him as a person. You all need to have respect for yourselves if you're going to command it from others.“
Yea basically chenille and mean ass Nikki felt like white chicks like Sara are the reason their dating pool is in the slums . Sara’s type is taking all the real eligible bachelors while black women can only settle for bums who just want some 🐱 . She felt like black women in general weren’t good enough
@@karen8624 absolutely
The little boy standing up @ 0:29 is me
really?
@@mitonrocha3351 yes. I was about 5 or 6 years old
She was wrong for this. Sarah ain't done nuthin wrong
chenille and nikki weren't friends but chenille agreed with nikki for what she said sara and chenille were cool besties
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I'm Sarah.
Lol! As soon as someone paid her to!
I didn't like what chenile say to Sara first of all Derek came to her
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I don't agree with how Chanel talked to Sarah but she made a lot of good points about black and white culture, they will never understand what black people go through.... This is a prime example of why so many black women hate when they see successful black men with white women.... She told Sarah to open up her eyes because she seems oblivious to the world around her and the people she chooses to hang out with are not, hence why Chanel said that, that is what they teach you, we blacks are taught different..... It's not Sarah's fault that Derek chose her but I understand exactly what Chanel is saying here, her tone was just harsh but she told no lies
Were one race and that's the human race and until we as a world see above that we will continue to be segregated.
Nah that’s stupid. BW have no business telling BM what they can do, and vice versa. Most of the ones who say that shit date white men from my experience.
Chanel chose a loser to date, sleep with without protection and have a baby with. That’s her fault not white women’s fault.
Maybe if she wouldn’t dismiss the black nerdy guys like at the start of the movie then she would have found a good black man. 🤔 But now she’ll
Have to find one willing to pick her with a kid already. When those good black men could find any woman without kids to be with.
Christopher is fussy and crying
Well he a baby what you expect…
l agree with what chenille said
Wtf, wasnt chenille brother and nikki dating and she dumped him but now that he got accepted into college it's a problem now. Gtfoh!!
These comments are incredibly surprising to me especially seemingly coming from black women. As if what she said wasn't true. It was nothing less than valid. May be hurtful to here but oh well.
Leyaa Perkins I completely agree. I think people are missing the point.
Finally someone said it.
Illeyah Perkins Honestly! If anybody should understand where Chenille is coming from it's black women 🤦🏿♀️ She was right.
Soooo people should only fall in love with and marry and have kids with members of their own race? That's fucking racist.
blissinchains stfu
I don’t know why Sara got treated differently diggy is white as well so why did the other people treat Sara like shit was it cuz Sara and Derek were dating or the fact of white and black people together?
I didn’t understand that either. Both Diggi and Sarah were white and why was Sarah the scape goat for everyone?
@@cupcakequeen0617 maybe they made the movie like that
@@cupcakequeen0617 True but diggi grew up in the hood Sarah didn’t she grew up in the suburban area if you didn’t grew up in the hood people will challenge you…
upsetting baby christopher
Back when Kerry Washington was Chenille 😬😂😂
Omg is she the woman from Django? 😂
@@supernovagirl5741 EXACTLY. 😂
When you have been on both sides this, shit hits differently. She wasn’t wrong for telling Sara that her world is different because nothing that happens to people of black color would ever happen to any other minority. But when we make it work and we’re driven and hard working and have something going on, the whites the Asians, the Hispanics, the Muslims, hell even the people who are us but jealous want to come in get a little piece of the pie so they can seem like it’s good. When in reality if we weren’t about nothing then they’d spit on us or shame us to another racist statics so they could be considered better. Mixed race Dating is hurtful and shows many layers of how forgiving black people really have to be in this world of bullshit. So as off put as Chanel might seem, she had a point to say it loud and proud.
no it's not. you're wrong and your so misguided in your own victim hood that you can't see the truth. what she said was WRONG. not only wrong but RACIST. you don't get to hate one people who love one another because you're caught in your own world. People like you who defend stuff like this are reason the community isnt going to get better.
So, you admit you are a racist. Plain and simple. What a sad, deplorable human being. Perpetual victimhood isn't a good look. Everyone is of value. Everyone.
Watching this now as a whole adult, I completely understand where chenille is come from! It’s the privilege of it all
oh my god my fav actress washiton spoke like that ..waaw that was amezing shit ..sorry.
Kerry Washington
Towana Clark
SunKissNicole 😭
That baby was getting on my nerves in this part lol
Chris is a Baby, Babies cry deal with it you don't deserve kids
If you can’t handle baby’s crying then don’t get kids…
I hate how people that the fact that Sara was with Derek. They excused the cheating Nikki did but just didn’t like Sara and Derek together because Sara white
Juwanna Clark, Juwanna Clark😂🤣
Bianca in this movie was like me. As long as black men or other men is with and liking light skin girls but there's something about them going off with white to you. Ikr it's cheeky. But I guest I'm cheeky black huh. But, one thing I do know Sara was down to earth 🌎 and really nice. But, how light girls get here. It had to be white or spanish or french or indian genes to get here. She told her what she told her. It was the truth. She was not mean at all but her feelings conspire.