if you dont play games you could save yourself a lot of hassle and go with a smaller GPU :) that 4070 was fun to fit! But yes, I also love wood on PC cases, I keep looking at the fractal north, if they made a smaller size I would snap it up!
Fantastic build mate 👍I've currently squeezed in a Inno3d 4070ti + Ryzen 5700x in a Ghost S1 case, and I thought mine was small! Amazing to see a 7800x3d work in an ITX case. Looking forward to more builds like this
Haha I made a similar ghost s1 build but used a 13600k and same gfx as you 😂 as much as I love the ghost I find it a little large to travel regularly with.
@@MashITTech no its not, a 13900hx or 14900hx is better than 7800x3d, a 4080 laptop or 4090 laptop are very close to 4070, better in some tests, this mini pc is 2k usd and so are the 4080 laptops, 4090 laptops are about 2300 minimum, but keep in mind a laptop is much portable and has all peripherals needed to use everywhere, i know gaming laptops are not good at battery life but just having an integrated screen is much better the only upside to this pc is that it runs quiter, you have to tweak gaming laptops settings to get them to be quite but you sacrifice performance you simply dont need to compare, each one has its use case, you cant tell someone to use mini pc when he needs to take it university as example, most people want one computer for everything and gaming laptops like legion 7i are so good at it, use it at home, office, school and its one piece of hardware only connect a charger and use it
This is absolutely ingenius, I build my first ever pc a couple of months ago in the north mid tower with an rtx4070, but this makes me want to build again
Thanks mate. I am loving the builds at the moment, it's been a really boring laptop year which has given me the time to do something I really enjoy! I have a FormD T1 on the way as well. Just wish Nvidia would release some new cards as I dont want to buy any more 4000 cards atm
That is the non super 4070, right? That’s pretty cool! I have the same combination, 7800x3d + 4070, but in a mid tower, so it’s really neat to see you squeeze the same thing into such a tiny case!
Haha I would agree if I didn’t take my computers apart every 5 minutes to tinker and clean 😂 going to change the fan in the psu soon as that is the loudest component in there!
@@MashITTech Careful with changing the fan. Many people who mod TFX PSUs don't use powerful enough fans and that can cause the PSU to overheat. It might be worth looking into something like hdplex's GaN PSUs due to their tiny size but still having enough power to run the setup as featured in the video
I love tiny PCs so will certainly new trying to get hold of one! I have a few cases arrived that I want to look at first though 👍 when you start building in the Velka can you let me know your thoughts compared to the Densium?
@@MashITTech The materials used on the Densium are much better and feels more premium, a little disappointed in the Velka for the price to be honest, prefered the older version of the 3 i had
Nice work, I like the presentation. This brings me back to building PCs in the early 90’s fun times. The new thing is small form factor but powerful. How much power can you cram into a small pc case. What’s the smallest Ryzen Threadripper (latest) smallest Motherboard and work from there with a riser cable. 😅😂
Finally, that was a great video. Btw, do you think other gpu's can fit here as long as it is deshrouded? or how about large powerful cards but just change the heatsink to a smaller one or cut if of diy style? assuming you have those 2 fans to cool it, I think it would be doable.
Im just waiting for s300 to arrive and then you drop this 😅. Fantastic video. Might build my fathers gaming pc with this if he wants it this small!❤ you think you might get your hands on a Midori L5 in the future?😊
no chan ce on 234mm but I think the 227 will go but you may need to dremmel out the rear of the wooden front. Some users have done that for other cards to get an extra few mm
Thank you. I run my own business so I am the boss 😂 I use the pc for work and play so by day I will use it for work and in the evening I will play the odd game.
Whats the idle temp and clock speeds on this 7800x3d using this cooler? im using apx90x53 alu in the T1 with exhaust fan above and i get 65-70c idle temps with 75-89c in game with clockspeeds around 4.2ghz
There is something really wrong there. I am getting temps in gaming from 74-85c but my clocks are at 4.8ghz. This is with a -20 pbo but without any undervolt I was still getting 4.6ggz. Add me on insta if you need some help
Hey Mash, receny got the Legion 7i White! Reay like its performance and added a second ssd Samsung 1Tb to it. Only strange issue is that my sifi is low when i am far from the wifi router. Is this a driver or router range issue? Mine has 6e AX211
the wifi card is a good one, have you updated your drivers? also check Intels site as lenovo drivers are often quite far behind. Also what router are you using?
@@MashITTech Verizon Fios WIFI 6 Router. I also checked my Intel(R) WI-FI 6E AX211 160MHz again, I tried the Intel Support assistant just now. Nothing yet...
Sorry, but I never managed to see the segment of ITXs, outside entuthiasts. Sure, it's nimble for a desktop, but you still have to carry a screen, keyboeard and mouse around. So what exactly is the benefit from a gaming laptop that comes at a similar performance and at the same price, but includes it all and can be connected to bigger screens and better peripherals when needed?
@@Sulphur_67 Basically the same arguments as for a desktop. So, I guess it it simply a nimble desktop then. But the issue is that it is so small that only a small GPU fits in, and only one or two SSDs, meaning the GPU performance is the same or lower than a laptop, and storage/memory upgradeability is the same. It seems unlikely you would ever upgrade the CPU or the GPU, so it boils down to repairability and small format, in exchange for everything in a flat package. Am I missing something? I guess if you want your home to be more stylish, with just a smaller box, wireless input devices and just a screen, but other than that, I don't see it.
I review a LOT of gaming laptops and agree for most people they make more sense. But in my case I wanted something powerful yet quiet, gaming laptop fan noise drives me insane compared to a desktop, plus they are always limited to at most 2x m.2, I can shove a lot more storage in this case which is useful for my editing.
There is no performance lost because of the psu, it’s a 600w so more than enough. The only lost fps is because the cpu can’t boost quite as high with the l9a compared to a large cooler and we are only talking 200mhz so minimal fps loss
I feel like the fractal ridge would have been much nicer and easier to build in. Could have got a cheaper sfx PSU and MUCH more options for the GPU size too
Funny you mention that, Gary has been eyeing the fractal ridge and wants me to build him one for a portable editing rig so you might see a video on that soon 😂
You read my mind. Although I don't play games, except Plants & Zombies, I like ITX case and wood. This is one beautiful PC build.
if you dont play games you could save yourself a lot of hassle and go with a smaller GPU :) that 4070 was fun to fit! But yes, I also love wood on PC cases, I keep looking at the fractal north, if they made a smaller size I would snap it up!
@@MashITTech The lian li a3 wood is coming, maybe you wanna look at that.
@@LogicalDraws Already on my radar :) typically I just bought the a3 before the leaks
Fantastic build mate 👍I've currently squeezed in a Inno3d 4070ti + Ryzen 5700x in a Ghost S1 case, and I thought mine was small! Amazing to see a 7800x3d work in an ITX case. Looking forward to more builds like this
Haha I made a similar ghost s1 build but used a 13600k and same gfx as you 😂 as much as I love the ghost I find it a little large to travel regularly with.
This PC destroys every Alienware, Razer and Lenovo laptop ever featured on this channel
so true
@@MashITTech no its not, a 13900hx or 14900hx is better than 7800x3d, a 4080 laptop or 4090 laptop are very close to 4070, better in some tests, this mini pc is 2k usd and so are the 4080 laptops, 4090 laptops are about 2300 minimum, but keep in mind a laptop is much portable and has all peripherals needed to use everywhere, i know gaming laptops are not good at battery life but just having an integrated screen is much better
the only upside to this pc is that it runs quiter, you have to tweak gaming laptops settings to get them to be quite but you sacrifice performance
you simply dont need to compare, each one has its use case, you cant tell someone to use mini pc when he needs to take it university as example, most people want one computer for everything and gaming laptops like legion 7i are so good at it, use it at home, office, school and its one piece of hardware only connect a charger and use it
This is absolutely ingenius, I build my first ever pc a couple of months ago in the north mid tower with an rtx4070, but this makes me want to build again
I love the look of the North and have been tempted to get one but it is just a bit large for my liking! I wish they made an ITX version
@@MashITTech I totally understand, sadly the Fractal terra just doesn't have the same feel
I have a terra on the way. People seem to like it so I wanted to test it. I am a bit worried about turbulence which a lot of users complain about!
@@MashITTechLooking forward to see what you'll cook up in it!
Thanks mate. I am loving the builds at the moment, it's been a really boring laptop year which has given me the time to do something I really enjoy! I have a FormD T1 on the way as well. Just wish Nvidia would release some new cards as I dont want to buy any more 4000 cards atm
Awesome vid. But why is Gordon Ramsay doing the voiceover? Just kidding, but you do sound similar to my Asian ears 😂
Came to the comments because I got the same vibe 😅
haha I wish I could cook and swear like Gordon 🤣
What a great idea, you should do more of these mini itx builds!
Thanks! Will do!
you should you 7500f or 7600x for a lower temp but still this one is the true "ITX" really good
the 7600X runs way hotter. The 7800x3d has the same wattage as the 7000 non-x parts or the 7000X parts running in 65 TDP (88w) eco mode
That is the non super 4070, right?
That’s pretty cool!
I have the same combination, 7800x3d + 4070, but in a mid tower, so it’s really neat to see you squeeze the same thing into such a tiny case!
yep, non super version. All the supers were longer
Better put there some dust filters or it will be hell of a cleaning after half a year 😄 nice job
Haha I would agree if I didn’t take my computers apart every 5 minutes to tinker and clean 😂 going to change the fan in the psu soon as that is the loudest component in there!
@@MashITTech Careful with changing the fan. Many people who mod TFX PSUs don't use powerful enough fans and that can cause the PSU to overheat. It might be worth looking into something like hdplex's GaN PSUs due to their tiny size but still having enough power to run the setup as featured in the video
Awesome, Thank you David 👊
Thanks mate. Hope you enjoyed it
214. Man manufacturers are capitalizingon the ITX craze.
These tiny boutique cases have always been insanely priced. I guess it’s not helped by the small manufacturing runs
that is a good looking pc case
That's awesome!
NFC’s Rtx4000ti would be perfect in this!
not heard of that! will go check it out
Actually insane Mash. I wish the day comes for the end of the gaming laptops lie and the era of portable desktops began
Thanks mate, I am really pleased with it. I do like laptops but man I hate the fan noise and heat when you game on them!
Got this case with a 4060ti in it and just finally managed to get a Velka 5 as they are in stock. would love to see a Velka build on the channel.
I love tiny PCs so will certainly new trying to get hold of one! I have a few cases arrived that I want to look at first though 👍 when you start building in the Velka can you let me know your thoughts compared to the Densium?
@@MashITTech The materials used on the Densium are much better and feels more premium, a little disappointed in the Velka for the price to be honest, prefered the older version of the 3 i had
Is it tiny? Yes. Does it look good? Absolutely. Is it affordable? Not at all.
i mean its not meant to be a budget build, with itx, you have to pay an itx tax due to how niche itx is, especially with higher end components
Nice work, I like the presentation. This brings me back to building PCs in the early 90’s fun times. The new thing is small form factor but powerful. How much power can you cram into a small pc case. What’s the smallest Ryzen Threadripper (latest) smallest Motherboard and work from there with a riser cable. 😅😂
Finally, that was a great video. Btw, do you think other gpu's can fit here as long as it is deshrouded? or how about large powerful cards but just change the heatsink to a smaller one or cut if of diy style? assuming you have those 2 fans to cool it, I think it would be doable.
Im just waiting for s300 to arrive and then you drop this 😅. Fantastic video. Might build my fathers gaming pc with this if he wants it this small!❤ you think you might get your hands on a Midori L5 in the future?😊
hahaha sorry, I love tiny PCs so there will be plenty more too 🤣 I have been looking at the midori so might try and get one soon
awesome video! do you think a deshrouded Asus Dual 4070s (227mm x 50mm) or a deshrouded Zotac Twin Edge 4070s (234mm x 40mm) could fit?
no chan ce on 234mm but I think the 227 will go but you may need to dremmel out the rear of the wooden front. Some users have done that for other cards to get an extra few mm
A tiny heater huh
haha great for winter
There is any plan to get a more "flat" version that could be slapped under the Flexispot desk? Maybe like a drawer?
That’s a great idea. I will see if I can find anything
Personally I prefer a full size desktop, but i heard you were used to working with smaller things
Fortunately so is my wife!
i could have used a Gary when I built my Flexispot
He charges $3 an hour which is the only reason I employ him 🤣
Good
Very nice and detailed. I like it. Nevertheless…are these computers supposed to take it with you? In the office you are authorized to play games?
Thank you. I run my own business so I am the boss 😂 I use the pc for work and play so by day I will use it for work and in the evening I will play the odd game.
Whats your backpack model?
Whats the idle temp and clock speeds on this 7800x3d using this cooler? im using apx90x53 alu in the T1 with exhaust fan above and i get 65-70c idle temps with 75-89c in game with clockspeeds around 4.2ghz
There is something really wrong there. I am getting temps in gaming from 74-85c but my clocks are at 4.8ghz. This is with a -20 pbo but without any undervolt I was still getting 4.6ggz. Add me on insta if you need some help
Oh and I just got a t1 so will be doing a similar build shortly but with x47 full copper so can give you my temps with that
How much does it weigh ?
Hey Mash, receny got the Legion 7i White! Reay like its performance and added a second ssd Samsung 1Tb to it. Only strange issue is that my sifi is low when i am far from the wifi router. Is this a driver or router range issue? Mine has 6e AX211
the wifi card is a good one, have you updated your drivers? also check Intels site as lenovo drivers are often quite far behind. Also what router are you using?
@@MashITTech Verizon Fios WIFI 6 Router. I also checked my Intel(R) WI-FI 6E AX211 160MHz again, I tried the Intel Support assistant just now. Nothing yet...
Sorry, but I never managed to see the segment of ITXs, outside entuthiasts. Sure, it's nimble for a desktop, but you still have to carry a screen, keyboeard and mouse around. So what exactly is the benefit from a gaming laptop that comes at a similar performance and at the same price, but includes it all and can be connected to bigger screens and better peripherals when needed?
upgradeability and repairability
@@Sulphur_67 Basically the same arguments as for a desktop. So, I guess it it simply a nimble desktop then. But the issue is that it is so small that only a small GPU fits in, and only one or two SSDs, meaning the GPU performance is the same or lower than a laptop, and storage/memory upgradeability is the same.
It seems unlikely you would ever upgrade the CPU or the GPU, so it boils down to repairability and small format, in exchange for everything in a flat package. Am I missing something?
I guess if you want your home to be more stylish, with just a smaller box, wireless input devices and just a screen, but other than that, I don't see it.
I review a LOT of gaming laptops and agree for most people they make more sense. But in my case I wanted something powerful yet quiet, gaming laptop fan noise drives me insane compared to a desktop, plus they are always limited to at most 2x m.2, I can shove a lot more storage in this case which is useful for my editing.
@@MashITTech Yeah, the noise can be a bit annoying. I always use a rigid headset, so it doesn't matter that much.
Zephyr rtx 4070 itx Sakura 👌
Yeah. I would love one of those but I cant get them in the UK!
Can you do a video showing the performance lost for that hardware using a mini PSU vs using a regular PSU.
There is no performance lost because of the psu, it’s a 600w so more than enough. The only lost fps is because the cpu can’t boost quite as high with the l9a compared to a large cooler and we are only talking 200mhz so minimal fps loss
@@MashITTech thats insane actually. I might have to build one of these next as a travel PC. Tech has come a long way…
Would this fit the asus dual 4070 super I really want to try this build
Sadly it is too long and too thick! I really wanted to get a 4070 super but couldn't find any that would fit :(
I feel like the fractal ridge would have been much nicer and easier to build in. Could have got a cheaper sfx PSU and MUCH more options for the GPU size too
Funny you mention that, Gary has been eyeing the fractal ridge and wants me to build him one for a portable editing rig so you might see a video on that soon 😂
@@MashITTech thats what we like to hear!
Brilliant 😅
thank you xxx
Would it be possible with a rx 7900gre
I haven’t found an 7800xt or 7900gre that was small enough to fit
@@MashITTech are there some other card's that would fit that are as capable as the 7900gre or 7800xt
40 dB is still very loud
Maybe my meter is off but it really didn’t sound loud (or maybe I am just used to laptops)
basically only the CPU+GPU+MOBO = $1.1k
You can go a fair bit cheaper with 7600/4060 but I was trying to cram the most power I could in there!
your voice like gordon ramsay
Im here
good to see you!
@@MashITTech Ayye fwiend
Can some one build this for my 4080, my pc is way too big 😂
haha if I could get a 4080 in this I would be in heaven 🤣
I am presuming Gary didn’t do the paste.
I am not going to tell you Garys response but you can probably imagine 🤣
@@MashITTech he can’t deny it. We took it apart.
As someone who doesnt have money for a gaming pc, can you donate this one to me when you upgrade? lol it looks amazing.
Work hard
80 Dregrees in the CPU while gaming? Nah...
am5 cpus are made to run hot. amd even said that over 90c is still within operating temps
80 with this small chasis is still good
That Noctua fan looks horrible inside that case. What an ugly botch-job.
I don't like it either. The one in S300 ITX case was absolute beauty!
I actually liked it as it was in matching with the wood front but I can see where you are coming from! I guess I should have just used a black 🤣
yeah, I really like the colour of the axp90-x47 too but the Noctua is quieter and I wanted this build really quiet hence also deshrouding the GPU