Cowboys add Tyler Guyton + 3rd round pick || Day one recap
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- čas přidán 24. 04. 2024
- Come on in and lets talk about the newest member of the Dallas Cowboys plus the trade they made.
Scouting report on Tyler Guyton, your new left tackle. Extra third round pick, yours to use tomorrow. - Sport
Guyton is a cowboy so he is my guy now.
Happy to have him cause we haven't had belief in even having a full season LT in like 7 years
For what it's worth, Guyton apparently had a ton of competitive fire/drive at the senior bowl and made a really good impression.
Haters dont know that. He was impresive at combine they dont know that either. All this negativism stuff is what has Dallas in dire straights and owners unwillingnes to do something to help this team in Free agency the last 3 years when he had a chance. Sure we drafted duds wow Clairbone, Taco, Mazzi, Schoomaker, injured players in College that we would have never drafted if not for injuries. Let me remind you Jaylon Smith when he came out of College he was the 5th rated overall player in the draft. We got him 2nd round, Sean Lee as well. The draft is not mathematics, is básica ley a hit or miss reality. You hit great you miss you dont know squat. Like last year. Sure thereis knowledge and TAPE and College Performance but no sure thing in drafting players .know why? A computar cannot mensurables what 's inside a man's hear heart and his desire to be great. That is why low draft picks have being Hall of famers and 1st round can't miss takent are mistakes. And haters there is not one among you who thought that Dak at 4th would be a real good QB. Not one of you. Neither was Jerry because Dallas did not want Dak, Jerry wanted A White Kid . But he was drafted before Dallas could take him. So we luck out into Dak. And if Guyton turns out to be good not many of you would be Humble enough to admit you made a mistake. Go Cowboys. Jerry Sell the Team. And retire to enjoy the billions you have made from this team 30 + years 3 SB. A great run but you dont have it any more. Time for a younger Man to own the team. That's life we are not eternal, except in Jesús Christ.
When you add positional value with the desperate need for that position, and the huge drop off after Guyton, and an additional early third round pick, you have to love that move.
I'm glad the Cowboys traded down and got OL help and got a 3rd round pick. And also i just knew it that the Chiefs were going to move up and get Xavier Worthy
Everyone knew the Chiefs would take Worthy.
@@LinkRocks Even Buffalo knew that the Chiefs would take Worthy.
Take a center in the second round. Take Sweat and a running back in third round.
The Front Office has proved they know what they are doing when it comes to OL in the 1st rd so I'm not paying attention to any negative talk about the pick
The Cowboys know how to draft 1st round o-linemen. They know what they're doing in that regard. I like picking up an extra 3rd.
Cavanaugh - "It's hard for me to hate it."
Perfectly said.
Last year I was very upset with the Mazi pick.. but this year a 73rd overall pick + Guyton was a great trade! They would’ve probably just picked Guyton @ 24 anyways
Do you think Mazi Smith can elevate to a quality pro...or do you think he's another Bobby Carpenter?
I hope they draft Powes-Johnson or Frazier next, or possibly Cooper Beebe.
guyton will be a beast , if the athletism is there , cowboys will make them into a great player.
I've seen this before--first, in '88, at the end of the Landry era. Landry , Gil Brandt, and Tex Shramm didn't suddenly get stupid. The "Golden Age" was over.
I saw it later in 1997. The reign of "The Triplets" was ending. Dallas went 6-10.
If you were there for those pivotal moments in franchise history you know there's going to be a hard landing and it's time to prepare for impact.
The Carolina Panthers beat the triplets in the playoffs ... It was painful and you were correct...prepare...it happens to all great teams...
Good job picking up that extra pick
You REALLY need a DT too. On day 2 I would grab RB, LB and DT (in whatever order).
Tyler Smith was a project but had amazing tape of mauling dudes and being amazing in the run game, while having the traits and flashes of an upside pass protector. Guyton just shows tape that makes you pray he can at least be like Kolton Miller and you know he won’t be nasty or a people mover with strength like Smith.
I was told personally by someone in the NFL “Guyton will NOT be ready this year” but has a chance to be the best. In this draft 3 years down the road.
I like this take...makes sense as a good possibility...I heard he has exceptional footwork.
I’m sad Jeff. Not a Ben and skin fan but sad for everyone else. Hope you’re back on the radio soon bro
If you don't like the pick, it's a good sign he'll be successful.Thanks, Jeff!👍🏽
I like the pick. Seems in-line with what they've been doing the past several drafts - going after "athletes". They've done a pretty solid job drafting linemen, gotta keep trusting them. Grab a center in the 2nd.
And where has all that gotten for the Cowboys? The franchise hasn't been to an NFC title game in 27 years. Who would have seen that coming?
@@andredarin8966that problem has nothing to do with 1 players
Center is pretty deep!!!
Jackson Powers-Johnson OC +? 6’3, 326, 32.75”, 9.75” #58 ORE
Zach Frazier OC +? 6’2, 313, 32.25”, 11” #54 WV
Christian Mahogany OG/OC 6’3, 314, 33.5”, 10.5” #73 BC
Christian Haynes OC + 6’2, 317, 33.5”, 9” #64 UCONN
Sedrick Van Pran OC 6’4, 298, 31.5”, 9.5” #63 GA
Beaux Limmer OC 6’4, 302, 32”, 9.5” #55 ARK
Hunter Nourzad OC + 6’3, 317, 33”, 10.75” #64 PSU
Tannor Bortolini OC 6’4, 303, 31.5”, 10” #63 WISC All could possible Upgrade the spot. I really want Top 3 RB + 1 WR Baker,Rice,Walker.. 🤞🏽🙏🏼🔥🎯🤩
Please do not double dip o line. We need a number 2 wr and a linebacker
Captain Trade down lives!!!!!! Need that T-shirt next draft season
Dallas Cowboys Great Pic and Trade
Idk if I’m in the minority but I had a great time watching the draft last night! This offseason has been rough but it’s not done yet so I’m still optimistic! Love ya Jeff! Always bringing the good content!
The fact that everyone is fine with Hoffman vs a top graded center out of the draft is alarming
Tvondre Sweat 💯
Guyton gave up 0 sacks in 650 pass blocking protections. Again he gave up 0 sacks last year. I mean come on people. What more do yous want geeeshhhhhhh.
He's not a dawg at the tackle position Christian Jones is a maller and can pull block like hell
They don't know how to scout players. They hated Tyler Smith and Travis Frederick.
And Micah, yet they still question, smh!
He has a bad holding problem and I’m three 4 years of college time he played under 25 games
Only 2 the season before also
I think the Tyler pic is more about the “secret” rebuild the Joneses are doing rather than picking a ready-to-go player now. The Jonses are happy because they don’t want Tyler to be good now, but be good in another year or two.
I don’t know that it’s a secret….Jerry said himself when you restructure contracts and keep pushing everything back the times comes to pay that bill. Just gotta hope we keep hitting on draft picks and this kid has potential to be the best LT in draft once he gets coached up. Then grabbing the early 3rd to top it off. Looks like they got a hell of a start to get that depth and young talent in.
Kinda hoping they trade back again with one of the 3rds for a later 3rd and a 4th. With all the needs it’d be nice to get a C,LB, RB and DT. Always love the idea of a WR falling to your pick!
It’s something about that star on the side of the hamlet to spark something in linemen
Love you Jeff - bummed about The Freak
We have CD Cooks Tolbert and Turp plus Ferg and Schoon ...we dont need to go wr unless we get a steal in the 4th
The Cowboys must be obsessed with the name Tyler 😂
Pretty brilliant move I think
What made the Guyton pick ok with me was trading back and getting the extra pick. So I would give the cowboys a A- to B+ grade on day one.
O Line is bigger need than corner.
Love rebuilding the OL and the DL. Build an OL that any RB could run behind and it won't matter which RB they pick this year, unless folks think Brooks is Bo Jackson but I haven't heard that. Pick a stud C or a G that has flex and we're good. Pick some beef for the DT position. GB's RB was literally in the secondary before anyone was touching him.
Are we sleeping on Brock Hoffman as a center? He's already here right?
I really wanted Gramn Barton but we did get a 3rd round pick. Now, I want Trey Benson or Brooks or the Tennessee rb.
Go Mavs. I am really going to miss The Freak and butt stuff. I always said I love your buns. It was you.
Great move great pick
I’m in the boat that I love the pick. Yes it would have been great to have gotten Barton or JPJ or Zach Frazier, but in those scenarios I think you are moving Tyler smith to tackle. As our offensive line sits right now you have a worse left tackle than last year but an amazing left guard. So if you move our incredible left guard out to tackle, you still have a worse left tackle than last year and your left guard spot just went to shit as well. With this pick, this allows us to keep Tyler smith where he belongs, bank on the upside of guyton, which he could be amazing you just never know. And like you said, there are starting centers still out there and the two that we want have medical concerns which might push them down the board to us and then boom, you have completely revamped the entire offensive line without moving Tyler smith at all. It’s still irritating to me that we didn’t take that guard out of Florida last year because he’d be the perfect replacement for Zach Martin next year and we would have a killer o line for 10 years but oh well. Long story short, I love the pick.
Only time will tell
The pick isn't about Guyton, it's about getting the extra pick in round three. Guyton is a comfortable pick for this team.
Love the trade for value, but feel weird about trading away from the top corner in the draft at 24. And once they made the trade, while Guyton wasn't BPA at 29, he was maybe BPAPOCN (best player available at a position of clear need) - note the caveat that this is based on JPJ apparently being flagged for multiple issues according to Broaddus and Wolchuk.
Jeff - thought you were more worried about Suamataia than Guyton.
Get him with Duke, STAT- then I’m totally fine with this
Guyton also only had 1 year of HS football.
Capt. Tadedown did indeed ride
Major win. They gave up 741 pts and got back 865 pts
Love the addition of the 3rd, just worry it isn’t an extra pick. It is trade bait to move up and guarantee Jonathan Brooks.
Guyton, got continually lambasted at the senior bowl.
The trade down was good, but Guyton is going to take a year or two, to be serviceable. I still think that shorter quick DE's will be able to get under and around.
I wanted Graham Barton at 24.
Now, they're taking 2 chances, verses one sure thing.
One in hand...verses 2 in the bush. I also liked the Alabama CB at 24.
I loved Kingsley in the 1st...
peyton wilson - you know the cowboys love an injury-prone lb in the second
he hasnt been injuryed in 2 years look at your research
@@thereaper9759 I'm aware
I'm also aware he's had 11 surgeries, which is why he he didn't go in the first
@@jd35711 i didnt say anything about going in the 1st round
@@thereaper9759 i know - i did
Question whats wrong w the uConn C if youll pick the Uconn guard and play him at center in the 2nd? I dont watch college football so im just wonderin.
These draft experts show more and more that they don’t know
Hoping we can trade up for JPJ. Fix this o line.
I trust Will McClay
I like this pick!
I'm OK with what they did yesterday. For once, an intelligent move instead of standing pat. If Guyton can keep Dak upright, the 3rd rounder bonus is pure gravy.
Get a running back and linebacker on day 3. Tomorrow get defensive tackle, center and wide receiver. Consider trading down and get a 4th also
Love the trade back. Kind of wish they would have gone once more. Not a big fan of Guyton (I would have rather taken JPJ)... but the Cowboy draft record on O-Linemen over the last 15 years... I'll trust McClay. What are the odds that Frazier or Van Pran make it to 56?
Sometimes trades arent there. Id prefer JPJ or Barton as well. I dont want to be a homer, but atleast this kid does have all of the physical traits that youd want. Id be lying if I said it didnt worry me that he really has no reps at left tackle though. As I said elsewhere, I wonder if they felt AT WORST, that maybe this pick is insurance at RT, because Steele was AWFUL last year, and if he doesnt improve, its a massive problem for us again, and at a big price.
@chocolatetownforever7537 Cowboy way. Pay a hurt guy because you really like the person and just cross your fingers it works out.
@@dirkellerd5837 Agreed, bro, and two other issues with that Steele extension.
1. He wasnt a blue blood, was a late round pick, and not that it means a guy cant develop into a decent pay kind of player, but im less likely to throw big money at that type unless its YEARS of really good production.
2. EXACTLY what I ended on. Steele did play well the year before we extended, but he was really just a one hit wonder at that point. We did that with Lael Collins, and his play dipped. Add what you said with Steeles injury, and I just didnt think there was enough shown to pay him.
@chocolatetownforever7537 Steele was actually undrafted. And ya know... that's okay. They fell in love with his work ethic. They just love the guy. And I think he proved he belongs in the NFL... as a starter? Dunno. For that money? 😬. But man. They saw the Michael Gallup thing blow up in their face and said... let's do it again! I hate it here lol
@@dirkellerd5837 My mistake, and youre correct, he was a UDFA. I agree with you dude about the injury thing. Jerry just has this obsession with paying his own guys, even if injured.
Now let's use 2025 picks to move up in round 2 for Cooper.
You can get Wright for rb in 3rd
Van prant for center in 3rd too
I’m just happy we traded back lol that 73rd pick is going to be so valuable
I hope Guyton works out because Barton is a stud and dallas could've stayed and grabbed a day1 starter. That said if they grab Frazier or jpj 2nd round it's all good
That's it Jeff doesn't like him, he's gonna develop into a megastar lol
Gotta say. Was more excited about Mazi last year than Guyton. Business wise, getting a 3rd pick, when value says mid to late 4th round. Barton was there. See how the rest of the picks go.
Bro couldnt even focus enough to put his hat on ...im a write that off as just being mind blown 😅 he kept forgetting to unfold it but his mind was elsewhere 💯
Just don't push the kid into starting, specially at LT, he might have a better chance at playing RT, since I believe the Jones are letting Zak Martin go next year, maybe it's time to experiment with Steele as a possible RG? His best asset was as a run blocker before the injury.
Getting the extra pick that early in the 3rd rd is huge but not sold on Guyton. Frustrated that they won’t just move Smith to LT play Bass at LG and drafted Oregon C or Frazier from WV. But we’ll see how things go because Guyton needs a lot of work with poor hand placement
Ok lets not waste any higher picks on a nobody TE and ill be happy! I want a LB CB and dlineman! Lets go get Sweat in the 2nd!
Mims also had injury issues which scared me
I'm cool with them trading back .they might even trade back again at 56.
If there's a redraft with the one Tyler Smith was in he goes top 10
This is what I want today. If we don't trade back again... and if this happens we Destroyed this draft.
#56 Zack Frazier/JPJ, if gone then Edgerin Cooper/ Peyton Wilson
#73 T'Vondrea Sweat/Cooper Beebe and slide him to C for this year then draft you a true C next year and slide Beebe to G where he normally plays after next season when Martins Contract expires if you miss out on Frazier or JPJ in the 2nd.
#87 Jaylen Wright/ Jonathan Brooks
I’m not expecting much from the Cowboys this year, so if they focus on OL & DT I won’t be mad. As long as this draft and the next draft give them solid contributors at their positions.
The trade down make it a good pick
Guyton went that high for someone whose tape is so "...yeesh..."(don't EVEN compare his tape to Tyler Smith's, Smith was still bulldozing over dudes even though he only halfway knew what he was doing) because he is an absolute FREEEAAAK SHOW athlete for an OLmen - when you see him move in space, have to cover ground quickly, he is RIDICULOUS.
He just don't know how to play football, he's a big giant freaky deaky athlete that just needs to learn [the right way; NO idea what they were teaching in OK] his Tackle techniques. Given what we heard about JPJ's visit, I think we can presume that they're pretty confident in his ability to pickup the technique and learn relatively quickly.
Tyler Smith definitely gives me faith that they know what they're doing with this pick - but one raw player getting developed isn't a guarantee that another one will. Guess we'll see.
Ayy, calm down on calling Mazi a miss - we've gotta see if it was DQ that screwed him up or not first😂
Jpj would have helped us sooner.but we had to take bpa cause we put ourselves there n there is more depth at center in this draft then tackles
I’d traded back for Frazier and drafted Christian Jones with that extra pick
17:52 we need 😂
Maybe trade down again give up pick 87 then pick up a 4th and an extra 5th, then could pick rb, center, linebacker and either wr or cornerback
Tyler Smith had one quality that everyone agreed on...he has unusual strength... apparently, Guyton doesn't have that quality...
like the trade down but wanted a more day 1 step-in and perform guy rather than someone needing a lot of development which is what Guyton looks like on tape. Think Asim Richards may prove to be better 2024 if given the chance...could be 2026 before we see Guyton as a good NFL starting LT. If Frasier is there at 56 I'll be elated but think Van Pran in the 3rd is more likely for centre.
why do all of our oline starters have to share either a first or last name with another of our oline starters?
Zack Martin? Who does He share a name with?
@@tbrown4562 it's a joke dude - it's absolutely happened a great deal over the last few years, but it's obviously not literally true
What’s the over/under for offensive holding this year? More than Tyler smith in his rookie year?
They’re all developmental projects. Guys we think will do great don’t and vice versa. We’ll have a good idea this time next year how good of a pick it was. Let’s just enjoy everything else a day at a time.
There are only two positions the Cowboys don’t need to address this year: CB and S.
These guys have hit on 1st rnd o line for a long time. I didn't like the pic but I have faith in there track record.
Was this the most chalk draft in history? Other than Penix it seemed like every pick was exactly what everyone thought would happen
Another Mazi Smith pick!
Not only did they get an extra third but it’s an early third.
Great bring zeke back to get 2 average ypc
You didn't watch Zeke in NE.
@LinkRocks correct he averaged like 3.5 yards a carry in NE
Get the hands a feet to match and you’re good
You just cannot take a developmental player in the 1st. Period. I don’t think Tyler Smith is comparable either. He had more experience and better foundation, and moving to guard instantly cured some of the holding problems.
Guyton might need a redshirt year.
If Guyton could become Flozelle Adam’s I would be happy
Hell they coulda traded back again to CAR and picked up another 3rd.
But, Cowboys have a great track record at drafting O-line. We all hated Smith and Steele (Steele got hurt but was very good prior). How bout we let the $10 Billion dollar franchise do what it’s gonna do lol.
This is year 1 of the rebuild. It's possible Steele could be a June 1st cut, and Guyton could be thrown out to learn on the job. 2024, 2025, 2026, is going to be tough years
Miss you already
Pick makes me nervous, but, I'm wondering if the "backup plan" is to move him to RT and dump Steele if he doesn't do well again?
Long time Jeff. Ya, its gonna be a work in progress, but at least he's available. Sounds bad, but looking fwd to 2025 n our comp picks. Jeff, are we getting 2 more comp picks for losing 2 minority coaches?, sf been getting those picks. No one seems to know the answer to that question. Thank You!
“Versatility” sounds good but is a hindrance to the player and the goal of winning.
I agree, I don't like it but that's what a lot of teams do nowadays. To be fair they seem to be keeping Smith at LG which is good.