PRO-JECT DEBUT EVO TURNTABLE - IS THIS THE BEST BUDGET TURNTABLE UNDER £500?
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- The latest in the ever-growing Debut series of turntables, Paul Rigby reviews this new EVO design from the Austrian company and compares it to the Rega RP1, the Audio-Technica LP5x and the Rega RP3. This is an ‘out of the box’ only series of tests with no cartridge upgrades. Ditto with the other turntable comparisons.
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I am now planning a future video in which I will try my darnedest to mod the EVO. The idea is to utilise items such as an Acrylic platter, a VTA adjustment plate (with Quintet Blue cartridge), an Aluminium sub-platter upgrade, new isolation feet plus upgrade mats. Its going to take a little while to arrange and gather this gear together but, be assured, it's on the way!
What about the Sumiko Ranier?
@Tristan Teobaldi I was gifted an acrylic for mine and find somethings sounds crispier. Interested in seeing something as well about upgrading the stock cartridge.
Would be looking forward to this as I'm getting a Pro-Ject in a couple of weeks and want to know if to buy an acrylic platter at the same time and then maybe upgrading to an Ortofon blue stylus.
Yes please
I am returning to vinyl after almost 40 years. I have this turntable in the US with the Sumiko Ranier. Can you look at that, too? How does it compare to the Ortofon? And how would upgrading to the Sumiko Moonstone stylus with the same cartrdge benefit my listening experience? Enjoy your videos. Thanks!
Yea, I pulled the trigger and ordered one. Thanks for giving me the confidence to move forward. Looking forward to hearing this first hand.
Fantastic review. I’ve had a Project Debut Carbon for about 10 years. I love it so much that I bought the Evo recently and set it up today on a second hi-fi system I’ve been fortunate enough to build. I would add something to the conversation but this review checks all the boxes. Buy with confidence, fellow enthusiasts.
Excellent review, thank you.
Bought my Pro-Ject 1 back in the early/mid 90's and it's still going strong, not a single fault. Prompted me to buy a debut carbon after considering others and it's been the same, utterly reliable.
Have to say my daughter's LP5 does give off a tingle though and puts a smile on my face, it's a bargain and great fun.
When I can get into a store again I'm hoping to test an AT-LPW50PB. Just fancy a bit of that fun for myself 😂🍻
I've been thinking about getting myself some nice turntable lately and I found this turntable to be the best option in this price range. Thank you for the review. It really helped when deciding.
I've recently bought this turntable because I was curious. Also, I made a new set-up with a Nagaoka MP-150 cartridge. What shall I say: All my expectations were exceeded - it seems to be impressive both quality in general and listening experience. This record player is here to stay!
As someone who's seriously considering this turntable, I think this might have just pushed me over the line.
Thanks Audiophile Man, I bought the Evo and it's a keeper. I'm just going to keep buying the upgrades for it.
I’ve been researching for a couple of months on my very first entry-level turntable. For the longest I’ve been looking at the Rega-Planar 1…. After watching this and a couple other audiophile reviews I believe I’ve reached a tipping point and am going ahead in this direction. This is a cracking, top-shelf review. Well done.
I was the same way. Planar 1 is nice but this just gives more upgrade options and I like the tone arm, a solid choice.
I have this turntable, purchased it in November 2020 and think it's the business. Would definitely recommend it for anyone looking for a mid-price, quality turntable. It kicks arse!
Enjoyed this review, Paul. That Ortofon 2M Red cart has a great deal to do with the sound; I hear nothing but good things about it. Great overall design for the money.
I never had the chance to use a Pro-ject deck, however I always liked that even their lower end models have azimuth adjustment on the arm. I suppose you could slap a 2m Bronze/Black on there if desired and be alright.
I bought a Fluance rt-85 recently after a lot of research. The reason I chose it was for three reasons - 1 it comes with an Ortofon 2m Blue (nude stylus) cartridge and 2 a removable headshell..3 an acrylic platter. I am nearly 83 years old and this will be the last tt i will buy...I have been an audiophile before vintage gear was available...The sound of a turntable imo is really based on the best cartridge you can afford..along with what type of amplifier and speakers you use...I also own a vintage taya tt with a Shure V15II cartridge that sounds just as good...loved your review though..
So thankful for the review. I will be buying the EVO .
I recently bought the "Project Debut Carbon Esprit SB" Turntable ( i did consider the new "Evo" Model) but i wanted the 'Acrylic Platter' and 'Speed Box PSU'. Great Turntable in every way, Carbon Fibre Tonearm and Ortofon 2M Red MM Cartridge, plus you dont need to use the supplied Platter Mat. Turntable White Colour. Great Turntable at £448.00. Bought for a Second Hi-Fi system.
Very happy with my Evo!
Absolute novice here and I have only just ordered this very turntable a couple of days ago (after months of deliberation), my relief is immeasurable after listening to your review. Phew!
Thanks also for another wonderful review you did on the Disco vinyl cleaner, which I've since bought on the strength of that review alone.Thank you.
Glad I could be of help :)
Thank you. You've helped me decide.
I happened to buy one yesterday and am extremely happy with it
Just upgraded from my Audio Technica lp120x to the Carbon EVO & couldn’t be happier! Here in the states it ships out with a Sumiko Rainier cartridge instead, but I upgraded it to the Ortofon 2m blue cartridge. I’ve been loving it ever since!
How is the bass with that cart? Thinking of upgrading to this!
It’s great when you see a review that confirms your own decision making!. I’m very happy with my Evo and Sonos sound system. Sounds great on the 2M Red and as you say Paul it can probably get better with an upgrade in the future to Blue or perhaps a full acrylic platter.
Or get a Fluance rt85
Very interesting video thank you for sharing. Watching your channel I have come to realise that I have a lot to learn about modern hifi but I am certainly enjoying the journey.
That makes two of us, Tony :) I'm learning every day about this subject. And thank you.
I’ve just purchased one, thanks for the great review 👍
I feel very fortunate that U.S. buyers get the Sumiko Rainier. I got one for my son's original Carbon and feel it was a tremendous improvement.
I have a Debut III from 2014 with a Sumiko Pearl cartridge and I like it very much. But now, Mr. Rigby you've just tickled my upgrading nerve. There goes my money, damn you! :)
Just got mine delivered today after 3 month wait. Fantastic piece of equipment 👍
Such a wonderful review! Greetings from Peru!
Great review.
I love Rega but might get an Evo to try it out.
Thanks leaning towards purchasing this thanks so much from across the pond!
I own this table and I like it alot. It gives good upgrade paths you can take instead of an entire new table. Eventually I'll upgrade it.
Very nice review!! It’s very detailed.
Have a Debut Carbon Esprit ( 2 yrs old) 45 speed quit working. Had just installed a Sumiko Song bird cart. So , ill try the Evo now. Its in the mail coming my way from L.A. Can't wait.
Update; Installed the Songbird MC cart , bought the aluminum sub platter , put the acrylic platter on , and a BOTW power supply , Morrow TT cables . I'm pretty happy.🙂
Superb review!
Daughter has just (today) bought an Evo. She lives about 100 miles away, so I have yet to hear it. But it was bought on the strength of a recommendation from my old friend who still works in the hi-fi retail world. I spoke to her earlier and she loves it. And she was born into an grew up in an LP12 house...
Great review!
Very nice Paul, IMO , the 2M Red is a great cart which is a dominant component in the overall sound. The stylus which gives you more details and balance than the Rega Carbon spherical cart.
The Rega Planar 2 , is only 399 pound and has a better tonearm and glass platter. Would be highly upgraded using the 2M red cart.
Keep Safe , love your blogs.
I'm liking this one better than earlier models. Pity they are sold out till early summer. I wanted the red color. Even Fluance TTs are back ordered.
I have just brought a second hand Pro-Ject carbon evo on Ebay in mint condition only a year old for £250.00 thank you for the advice it sounds awesome. I also got an acrylic platter for £60.00 in mint condition from Ebay as well. Thank you for the advice it was a big help. I also have some advice to offer your followers regarding a website I got a Rotel RCD-1572 CD Player from it says it is B Stock. It turned up within 3 days the box had a couple of marks on it but the CD player is mint never been out of the box and only cost me £379.99. Honestly i had no idea a cd could sound his good.
sorry i missed the name of the website it is Hyperfi they have a large range of hifi seperates mostly B Stock all come with a twelve month warranty
Nice review :-). I bought the Debut III 10 years a go and still love it.
Btw, great review Paul!
Just read that this turntable is available with a Sumiko Ranier cartridge here in the U.S. for $499.
The Pro-Ject debut line in general and the new carbon in specific, on account of it's upgrade-ability alone, probably are the best entry level options. I still went for a Rega P2.
How do you like the P2?
Always felt that this was the one to go for, I've been 20 years without a turntable Paul. I've just seen a review of a later and more expensive model and asked you to comment on this one. But I found the review; what an amazing job you have done on it and I shall go ahead now and purchase. Do I buy the Cambridge pre-amp to partner it? When I bought my separates from Richer Sounds I asked about the turntable then. Glad it's still available, 3 years later. I'd like your thoughts Paul. Thanks for your hard work and extremely professional reviews; saves me buying what hi fi every month ad I always used to for many, many years. Can't beat great music played on great separates. Cheers
I enjoyed this review, as always! A few people have mentioned the difference with carts. Maybe an idea for a vid would be to take a popular beginner deck (P2 level) and try a few carts out. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the popular choices and maybe some left-field picks.
Well, as I said in the pinned post at the top there, modding this turntable is planned. That includes cartridges. Hopefully that will help, even if only a bit because the video won't be wholly cart centric. Otherwise, sure I can have a think about a wider cartridge test. The said, the turntable and arm are going to have a big say in the results so I wonder just how valuable the results will be on a broader level - especially for those not interested in the reference turntable used in the tests. Something to consider, though.
@@TheAudiophileMan it will be an interesting watch. I've just moved on from a P1 with a glass platter to an RP3 with speed controller. I'm not sure to invest in a sub platter or cart next.
Thanks for very detail video on setup. Sir I have problem with this turntable I am getting higher rpm speed around 33.45 which affect the output signal . Is there any way to correct rpm speed around 33.00 to 33.38 so that I can enjoy the music as before. Is there any way to adjust the rpm speed to 33.33 with motor itself. Does motor have preset to adjust the speed. Pl help me
Are you actually hearing issues or are you reporting this figure after testing it with an app or similar?
@@TheAudiophileMan Yes, after hearing I can make out speed is faster and also I have tested with app it is showing grater than 33.40
Thanks great video, I've decided to go for the technics sl1200 G, as I find these offerings very bland and uninspiring. Keep up the good work 👏.
Paul, thank you for the great review! A good perhaps more even comparison could be the RT84/ RT85, to the Debut EVO, as they are the same price $449 / $499 US. Would be great to hear your review of the 84/85 as compared to the EVO. Thank you again for taking the time to provide the care and detail in your reviews!! PS: In the US we get the Sumiko, how does the Sumiko compare to the OM2 Red?
Well, that would mean getting flying them in for review. Frankly, it took all my time getting both the 81 and 83 in for the same. Fluance has no presence in the UK, you see, so I had to nag them for the 81/83 models. I have asked about other turntables but have not received a reply as yet. I need to do more nagging methinks :)
It's 2021 we need a quiet mechanism that returns the tonearm once platter finished. Whoever does this with a built in preamp will make millions.
A brilliant review with a touch of humour. I was aiming to purchase a Nad C588 this year, but think my mind has been changed to this turntable. Even more especially as one of my local Project Dealers give a further reduction on part exchange too.
Thanks Robert.
The Nad has a better Tonearm . Think again.
@@gilmehulal5045 Yes, I am aware it is longer on the NAD turntable, but the cost is considerably higher. As it has been said here on this Channel and other reviews, if I don't hear a higher cost turntable, I will not miss what it has to offer.
Hi Paul - I am thinking about upgrading my Thorens TD 105 TT by adding a Ortofon 2M Blue headstock and cart. Is this possible? Would a Ortofon 2M Blue headstock and cart fit the adapter on the Thorens arm the unscrews? Thanks!
Just purchased this as my first turntable! Thanks for the very helpful and insightful review! It was easy to understand for an absolute beginner like me. As someone who had only used my brother's automatic turntable, do you have a video on how to use a "manual(?)" Turntable for an absolute beginner? Something like where to place the needle on a vinyl, upkeep, and just general good practices. Although it might might fit the purview of this channel
I can certainly consider it, sure. For now: place the needle on the run-in part of the vinyl on the very outside. You'll normally see a bump or lip at the edge of a record...just inside that bit is where you want to place the needle or stylus as I call it. Look at the part in the light, it will look different from the inner grooves. It will look shinier. This bit is silent before the music starts.
Upkeep? Keep the turntable dust free, keep liquids away from it. You should be fine mechanically for some time, especially with a new model.
@@TheAudiophileMan Thanks a ton for the response, it was very helpful! Looking forward to the modding video :)
Going from a Walmart special VICTROLA suitcase to one of these DEBUT EVO. Hope to hear a tenfold increase in clarity.
The American offering of the EVO includes a Sumiko Ranier instead of the Ortofon 2M Red. I wonder which of the two performs better. I'm guess that the Sumiko setup is, but I'd love to hear a first-hand review. I have compared 2M Blue and Red on my RT85 and was underwhelmed by the brashness of both (with the Blue sounding almost the same but with better inner groove performance). I honestly prefer the more open/subtle Audio Technica VTM95SH, at least on the RT85.
The most obvious comparison to make here is the Rega Planar 2 which is just £20 cheaper and a current model, rather than the RP1 or RP3. These are the 2 turntables I want to compare, the Planar 3 is outside my budget, and it would be good to have an idea of what to listen for between these turntables which are competing for the same position in the market place.
been novice in TT but you helped me decide , I will go with this Debut Carbon Evo for my first one with Yamaha RX-V6A receiver Thank you for the superb review
Paul, excellent review, highly detailed. I’ve got a Pro-Ject Debut something. As you say, there are many. It is the version prior to the one you reviewed. It has the same Ortofon red. I’m very happy with it, but let me get to my point 😂. I’m curious if you’ve heard of a turntable manufacturer called Uturn Audio? The product is called Orbit. It’s a US made table that has made some headway here. It’s a budget table but seems to be a step up from the usual suspects. I’m curious if you’d consider reviewing it.
Absolutely. Getting one is more difficult because I’m based in the UK and they have no presence here. I’ll make a note to hassle them though :) It worked with Fluance in the past.
This looks a great turntable, I love the range of colours. One question I would like to know is, as an existing Rega Planar 1 owner, would this turntable be a logical upgrade? And if not what is my next logical step on the upgrade path?
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Thank you so much for this review. This is the turntable I'm now going to upgrade to from my vintage Pioneer PL510A. I'd also be fascinated to hear your opinions on comparisons between vintage and modern turntables.
It’s an avenue that I intend to explore. I need to work out my finances though because I’d need to buy them in and that cash will have to come from somewhere. Leave it with me and as soon as I can work something out, I will.
I hope project has already sent you the debut pro for review :) I will wait for your review to buy it
I have requested one - let's see if it arrives.
Please begin championing fully automatic budget turntables with easy swapped cartridges. Thanks.
Hi, PROJECT DC + Acryl It platter vs PRO-JECT DC EVO........What are your thoughts????
At 500 dollars in the US it's basically the turntable to buy over saving double for a P3.. but keep in mind the 2M red is replaced by the sumiko rainier in the US because sumiko is their distributor
Rega really needs to change their import pricing.
Agreed.
@@TheAudiophileMan do you think the sumiko rainier (which i guess instead of upgrading to a 2M blue you upgrade to a moonstone) would possibly be any kind of improvement or downgrade? i know you liked the cartridge but just wanted to give US viewers a heads up that they wont have an ortofon cartridge
@@duke86fan Sumiko’s carts are good designs but they’re not for everyone. I would encourage potential users to check out my review first. A good alternative would be a similarly priced Goldring.
What's this I keep reading in places about low frequency resonance caused by some project turntables?
I'm just starting out on my vinyl journey and about to buy my first turntable. This will be the one I get. Could you please advise what affordable speakers would be good to pair with this as well as what else I would need to purchase to be set? Any advice you can give me would be so appreciated and helpful.
Great review! I was wondering how the Evo compares to the Fluance RT85. In Canada the RT85 is priced a bit lower and comes with an Ortofon 2m Blue Cartridge. I'm currently looking for my first turntable and was weighing towards the Fluance but would love to hear your opinions on this.
Me too, Steve :) Problem is that Fluance doesn’t really serve the UK in distribution terms so I had to really push to get my RT81 and 83 review samples shipped directly. I’ll make a concerted effort to try to get the 85. Fingers crossed.
Check out the cnet review of the Evo. He compares the two.
@@TheAudiophileMan Hi I looked at the RT 85 but to bring one into the UK it pushed it way up the turntable ladder price wise against what is a available here for the same kind of money .
Hi. Thank you so much for your videos.
A few weeks ago I had the opportunity to play vinyl, the 1st time since my teenage years, 40 years ago. I loved it.
I’m really wanting to play records, and will be starting from scratch as I have no turntable, or in fact anything 😅.
I’d be so grateful if you could guide me in what to get; turntable, pre amp (if needed), amp, speakers etc.
I live in the uk, am happy to purchase 2nd hand if items are in sound condition.
A few days ago I was looking at the Rega P1, then their slightly more expensive models, & now the Pro Ject debut carbon evo.
I do like the walnut style of deck and poss speakers of whatever I buy.
Sound quality is very important to me. I like a whole range of music; jazz, reggee, modern, opera, things like the velvet underground, pink Floyd. So I like to be able to hear individual instruments. I don’t tend to listen to things with a deep base.
I don’t know if I would keep adding to what I buy, but might want the opportunity to gradually upgrade things. Probably my budget would go up to £1,400.00 at the absolute max, writing this I prob should say £1,100.00 as I’m feeling quite nervous - a month ago I was thinking £400 max😅. You can now see my concern!!!
This video on the Pro Ject Carbon debut evo is now 3 years old so I’m wondering if there’s any new kit out there that I should be looking at. If you have any more recent videos would you mind sending me the links, I’ve tried scrolling up from the latest ones, you have been very busy, there’s so many.
Any advice would be extremely welcome.
I hope that your house move went well.
Thank you
Hi Wendy, looking at your budget and as Rega has caught your eye, a Planar 1 would be a good choice. It arrives with an arm and cartridge already set up. An external phono amplifier would be useful. Again, Rega offers the Fono Mini for just over £100. Cambridge offers an AXA35 integrated amplifier for around £350 while a pair of Q Acoustics 3020i speakers would do just fine. You can pick those up for around £200. Grab a set of QED speaker cables from Amazon (the best you can afford) plus a pair of QED interconnects (ditto) to connect the phono amplifier to the main amp. You might also want to consider a pair of stands for the speakers and some shelving for your HiFi components. That’s a broad outline for you. I don’t want to swamp you with information at this stage. See how that lit grabs you and come back if you have any questions.
@@TheAudiophileManthanks so much for getting back to me so quickly, really helpful.
I’m afraid that I have more questions, & I’m sorry if this is a stupid one….
What would be the best turntable?
A good quality vintage one from the 70’s,
The Rega Plsner 1 (or other low to mid cost model)
The Pro-Ject debut carbon evo.
I’d love to hear your decision based on quality rather than cost. I might prefer to save up a bit.
If I were to mix vintage with new, what would you recommend be the vintage items; turntable, amp, speakers etc?
Visially, I find it calmer on my mind to look at more natural finishes (like wood), rather than glossy back, aluminium or bright colours.
So I do like some 70’s things.
Might be fun to mix & match if I could get things right.
I’d really appreciate your views.
Thanks
Wendy
From your list? The EVO. I would avoid vintage unless you're prepared to pay extra for a full service of the item itself. If not? Be prepared to tackle ageing parts, breakdowns and expensive repairs. They can be a money sink. New gives you peace of mind, a warranty/guarantee and you get to do what HiFi is made for, playing music.
Whoa, makes me look at my Rega differently now. I'm actually curious why you didn't include the Planar 1 in your comparison set. Isn't that the updated version of the RP1? I could be mixed up on that, but still would've been curious to see how the EVO stacks up vs. the Planar 1 (described here previously as "arguably the best-ever low-end budget turntable"). Great review nonetheless. P.S. Love the channel!
That's very kind of you and, asI mentioned in a comment elsewhere here, there are improvements over the RP1 by the Planar 1, yes but their personalities remain generally the same and they retain a relevance in review terms.
As others have mentioned, the EVO ships with a Sumiko Rainier in the US. Given your review of that cartridge last year, could you speculate about whether that would be an improvement over the Ortofon Red?
Hi Andrew - the Rainier is not for everyone. I try to convey its personality in my review so I hope viewers can make a judgement armed with some of the points in the video. The Red is more neutral in presentation although not quite as insightful as something like a Goldring E3.
Great review, I'm torn between the Evo and Rega Planar 2, what would you go for (out of the box)??
Hi Andy - both are excellent and you won't disappointed in you go with either. In *very* broad terms? The Rega has the edge in the upper mid/treble frequencies but the EVO is better balanced and integrates bass better into the mix.
Hi, I bought my EVO turntable a couple of months ago and can’t fault it. I’m glad your review supported my decision to get one. I’m in the process of upgrading my system - I’ve upgraded my speakers to a pair of Wharfedale 12.2 book. I’m now looking for an integrated amp to go with my EVO & Wharfedales, in the region of upto £500. What amp(s) what you suggest?
Hi Steven - the Audiolab 6000A provides excellent tonal balance and is my choice but the Rega Brio is also one to look at.
Hi Paul Evo , Planar 2 or NAD C558???
Digging your reviews. I was wondering if you could do a look at the Sumiko Rainier cartridge (compare review with the 2m red would be most amazing) that comes with American version of this incredibly popular turntable. It seems like most places are having trouble keeping it in stock and I plan on getting one when I manage to save up for it (covid lack of job making it a long process). cheers keep up the great content.
Thanks Jeremy - check out my review here: czcams.com/video/w6-5UawlS58/video.html
I'm leaning towards getting one of these since they upped the price tag on the Rega Planar 2, but the only videos I seem to find with sound examples are all the European versions which have the 2M Red on them. In America, we get the Sumiko Rainier instead, but I have yet to see any demos of that cartridge to see how much better it is.
If you're watching a review and they play a sound sample then you're wasting your time, Larry. You're not hearing the turntable or the cartridge. You're hearing the device that's playing your video. Nothing more than that. Even if you hear changes in 'tone' during the video, that sound has nothing to do with the original hardware.
If you want to hear the actual product, arrange a demo with a dealer or call a dealer and request a home demo (an increasingly popular practice and well worth pursuing).
Can I use a normal rca cable to connect the turntable directly to my active speakers ? The one supplied is short and I need a 5m one. But I dont have the grounding part. Is it neccessary ?
Hi Alex - I'll answer this one in Friday's video. Watch the skies.
I just puchased the Deput Evo and have yet to set it up. I picked the table up for a $100 less than it's retail price of $600 on Amazon. It was a sort of flash sale and I jumped on it. I was considering an Audio Technica AT- 140XP for another system, but at regular price of $150 more I may just buy another EVO. Just saying.
Quite the difference Evo vs Planar 3 dynamic in the U.S. $500 vs $1145 with Elys 2. (The X1 is $999.)
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Hi Paul, what do you think of the Project Jukebox S2 turntable? Would you recommend the Project Jukebox line? I need to buy everything (amp, speakers), so a local dealer is suggesting that model. Is it better to buy everything separate, or are the all in one models good? Thanks! 😄
Hi Stephanie - check out my review and then come back to me if you need further help: theaudiophileman.com/juke-box-s2-pro-ject-turntable-review/
Splendid review, and I’m really tempted. Currently I’ve got a Pioneer PL-518 with an Ortofon 2M Blue, cartridge aside, would you say the Evo would be a step up? Really fancying a straight tone arm!
Indeed I would, yes.
Well I took the plunge, and initially I was very disappointed and underwhelmed . I kept the 2M blue stylus from my pioneer and after installing it on the Evo I could see , and hear , a vast improvement. Very similar tone to the pioneer but much more detailed and a wider sound. Glad, and relieved , I made the change
The best upgrade you can do to any turntable is the cartridge. An Ortophon 2m black will make a $500 table sound like a $1500 table.
The pressed steel platter sets alarm bells ringing in my head for a different reason. Not because it could have rung like a bell (suitable platter mats could have helped with that issue if present), but because steel is magnetic which could adversely affect the performance of the magnetic cartridge. Your comparison with the Rega RP1 was interesting but was that comparison done with the crappy Rega Carbon cartridge? If so then it would be interesting to re-do the comparison with an upgraded cartridge fitted to the RP1 (e.g. Ortofon 2M Red, or Audio Technica AT-VM95E).
And don't forget the record itself, in terms of magnetism. A good mat will help shield the cartridge from the platter but it an intriguing point you've made.
As for your other point? I addressed this in the description and the pinned post above. This is an out of the box test. Each deck arrives as a package and I reviewed the package only. In this respect, changing the cart would be unfair to first-time buyers. I am considering a future modding video on the EVO which could include cart upgrades and comparisons of the type you mentioned.
@@TheAudiophileMan Thanks your your reply Paul. You should definitely do that EVO modding video as it seems to be the sort of deck that would respond well to such tweaks.
Thank you for such a glowing and inspiring review! As a beginner, and if I were to purchase this, how would I know what other components to buy (amps, phono stage, speakers etc) to complement the potential of the evo in terms of sound?
I’d prepare before you buy the EVO. So you have a working plan the keep your budget happy. Do you have a budget?
Upgrades for the turntables are: Acrylic platter, aluminum sub-platter & a low noise power adapter. You can take a peek a Pro-Ject website for other devices to compliment you table, they have speed boxes and what not.
@@slappythemonkey4035 thank you, I shall check it out
Hello. I am in the process of purchasing the Debut Carbon Evo, and your review has been very helpful to me, and gave me the last push. Now I ask you for help: which phono preamp do you recommend in combination? I'll be using it connected to a Yamaha amp without a phono, for now. I would not want to spend over € 250, maybe 300. Thanks in advance for your reply
Check out the Schiit Mani - here's a review: theaudiophileman.com/schitt-mani/ Price is now around 180 Euros or slightly less.
Buy a used Linn Axis with AT95SH in great shape or the new Debut EVO? Both are the same price
I am in the process of purchasing a new TT. My old Denon DP-30L has finally died. Whilst this was a direct drive TT, I find that DD are priced far and above belted systems. I have seen your videos for the NAD C588 and now this, for the EVO. If you had to choose between these two which one would that be? Thanks for the channel and the videos, I've enjoyed them very much.
I've yet to do an A-B but, from memory, out of the box? Probably the NAD. And thanks for your kinds words.
Did you compare those turntables with the same cartridge? Can the sound of turntables be properly compared if they have different cartridges?
I normally do retain the same cartridge but in this case, I’m reviewing the package, off the shelf. As you would hear it out of the box. To change the cart would then involve an upgrade dimension and thus not consistent with the first sonic experience or what I was aiming for here. I should have explained that in the video.
Great video - I am thinking about upgrading my TT from a Thorens TD 105 with a Pioneer 600 cart and stylus to the EVO and thinking if I should try to order with the Blue 2M straight away or start wit the red and then just upgrade to the Blue stylus? Thoughts and suggestions greatly appreciated!
Hi Steve - if you can, go straight to the Blue. The sonic improvement is worth while.
@@TheAudiophileMan Thanks Paul - In the US the EVO comes stock with the Sumiko Ranier. How would you say the Sumiko Ranier compares to the Ortofon 2M Red or Blue? Worth swapping out the Ranier? I've heard its pretty good. I listen to mostly Jazz and classic rock. Thanks again! Really enjoy your channel
Excellent video, really appreciate the detail!!
Im currently looking to rip some of my old vinyl to digital, as high fidelity as possible (24bit, +96khz if possible), but the Debut Evo doesnt seem to have a USB/SPDIF capability...is the Project Debut Carbon Record Master HiRes the only one around £500 with this capability?
I have a Rane MP2015 Mixer which is an optional 'ripping' route but i'd rather just go direct to my Macbook pro and record directly into Bitwig. Was wondering what your thoughts were Paul?
I did review that turntable for the online magazine, Enjoy The Music so it might help to read that ere: www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0717/Pro_Ject_Debut_Carbon_RecordMaster_HiRes_Turntable_Review.htm
@@TheAudiophileMan ah. perfect!!! Many thanks!
Really happy with my evo! Have it on an audiolab 6000a, and was thinking of the next upgrade. Would you rather suggest cartridge upgrade (like ortofon blue) or phono pre-amp (thinking of the shiit mani, which is not in your phono preamps review but read some good things about it... what do you think)?
External phono amp would be my first choice, George - if you don't already have an external model - then a new cart. If you get a new cart first the phono amp will be a bottle neck and you won't hear the benefit of the new cart. Here's my Mani review: theaudiophileman.com/schitt-mani/
@@TheAudiophileMan Thanks a lot for the advice! And for pointing your Mani review, missed that one!
Do you recommend the acrylic platter upgrade for the Debut Evo? Can you notice any difference? Or going with the 2M blue? Worthwhile or leave as is?
I hope to be looking at upgrades when Pro-Ject sort a selection for me to try. I'm just waiting on them.
@@TheAudiophileMan Ps: thoroughly enjoy your Channel all the way in down under
Hi! Nice review! I'm in the Pro-Ject zone in terms of 'first tt'. So, in a short answer (without considering the price), help me to choose, please: Debut Evo or Art Debut S-shape (I will not listen mono records, I guess)?
EVO
@@TheAudiophileMan Thank you!
Great review. I gotta ask, the U.S. version comes with a Sumiko rainier. Based on your review of that cartridge, I’m guessing the us version of the turntable would still be recommended. Thanks for the great info
The Rainier is a good cart, Aaron although, to get the best out of the EVO, a future cart upgrade would be recommended.
@Scott Frobel The 110 is a great cart, I use with 1200 MK4
@@TheAudiophileMan I just picked this TT up here in the US. Which Cart upgrade would you recommend?
Naked city was a great series. That's a nice Turntable. I may get one. One question though, if you play 78s you would have to change the stylus, correct?
Yes indeed. As for the cart? Ideally yes.
@@TheAudiophileMan Not the most practical for 78 1 having to change belt, 2 non swapable headshell, a Technics MK4 or the LP140 are the best choice for those who like to frequently switch between vinyl and 78
Seriously looking at upgrading my wife's ancient Project Debut 2 from the early 2000's. Got the Moon 110LP phono stage which is amazeballs - would this record player be a good move or should I be aiming higher ?
Go as far as you can, Matthew - as far as your budget will allow.
@@TheAudiophileMan of course you're right . I'll sell the kids to the circus too 😂
Hi 👋 I need help. I use to have a vintage record player unit with speakers built into a furnished mid-century unit. So I have no idea what I need! I'm keen to get this model but what do I need to get with this? Recommendations for speakers (and whatever else I need). I'm feeling overwhelmed and totally confused!
What hardware are we looking at here and do you have a budget to work with?
Is there a cheaper version of this turntable for budget guys? I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that these turntables can be upgraded, but is there a budget one people can slowly upgrade to eventually meet the same upgrades as this turntable? I know my explanation is horrible, but I have no other idea on how to ask it lmao
I am considering this turntable. But I am also in need of external phono stage pre-amp.
Since I am considering upgrading my receiver to a one with streaming capabilities, would it be more advisable to upgrade a receiver now, to the one integrating a phono stage and blue tooth ? IF so, what would you recommend ?
An external phono amp would be preferable, in purely sound terms. What's your budget?
@@TheAudiophileMan Budget was to try to stay bellow $400. Budget won ..:( i got a music hall mmf-1.5..
So, have a little left. It has a built in pre-amp, and mybreceiver does not !!
Whatbis better tp upgrade? Cartridge? Or pre-amp?
Can you order this Project without a cartridge for a lower cost in the US? I'm very happy with my AT-VM95ML.
I think the cart arrives as a bundled item, I'm afraid.
Hi Paul. I didn't realise you were on CZcams my apologies. Your written reviews often occupied my attention. I appreciated your review of the Naim Muso. This review has been invaluable for me in narrowing my potential purchase of a turn table. Thank you for your generosity in sharing your viewpoints. By the way what is your recommended cartridge ?
No need to apologise :) And thanks for reading. Words are my first love anyway. A cart for the EVO? What's our budget?
@@TheAudiophileMan thankfully I can say I'm able to afford something nice. What're 2 possible recommendations from you Paul ?
What are your thoughts about upgrading to the 2m bronze cartridge on this turntable. This would add another $450 to the price. How would this then compare to other turntables in the $1000 category. At that point is it better to consider other better options? Thank you!
Yes, sounds like a decent plan. Do you have an EVO? If you do and you're enjoying it then the Bronze will certainly enhance it.
@@TheAudiophileMan I don't. I was looking for a good entry point and was considering the project X2.