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Good video. But perhaps it should have been clarified thatThe Roman province of "Mauretania" is not the same as the modern country of Mauritania (which is substantially further south, was never a Roman province, and has a different population history). The Roman province of Mauretania was mostly in modern day Morocco. The modern country of course took the name of the Roman province, but they are not connected (of course, you know all this, but some may not). The Romans called the Berber speaking peoples they found in what is now Morocco, Tunisia, parts of Algeria, and Libya "Mauri" or "Maures" (so basically it refers to people of Berber-speaking ethnic groups-and it can be applied to all Berber-speaking/ethnically Berber groups wherever they are found in Northern Africa). I believe the modern nation name "Morocco" is related to "Moor" as well.
BLACK-A-MOOR!
Recon-kweesta?
Nice music tho
Who are you even talking to?
Your channel is so important. Along with Home Team History, you give such an objective, fact-based account of African history that truly respects the actual culture and history of Africa. I have an infinite level of respect for what you are doing. Please keep going!
Did u even watch this video. Hometeam history is an afrocentric and completely contradicts this video.
This video talks truth, that moors were not subsaharan black
This is why most people go by their ethnic identity before their nationality.
we was never taught nationality
Except guys are going by shades of skin color which is not how u review ethnicity at all ,u cant shove all light ppl into one because of skin shade
ethnicity is different. For example Nigeria, Nigerian is the nationality. The ethnicities there are Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa, Fulani, and many others.China: the Hans. I understand what you are saying because how some countries in Europe there are no specific ethnic groups so the nationality=ethnicity. But countries like Spain you have the Castilians. Spaniard is their nationality but ethnically they are Castilian.
One of the best comments I have read. So called blacks think people are crayons.
Especially if yoyr American you NEVER know! Whats in your blood.
Even though I have a few disagreements with this Video. It was well researched and unbiased. So there’s no point in complaining.
Solid work
agreed
Moors = the people of Morocco & Mauretania I guess
just like americans they had many colors. fantastic video as always
Love your facts. I know many people want everything to be black and white ( pun intended). I agree and have studied the cultures of the north Africans. It's so diverse that you can't go through all of it in a 10 minute video.
The big problem is 60 years ago people would dismiss blacks all together.
Also in Egypt.
Now people want to finally admit it was some blacks.
That is what people aren't talking about
North Africa isn’t diverse 🤦♂️ it’s amazigh and not black or arab
@@FireGodSlayer huh? That wasn't even a complete sentence. What are you talking about
@@autodidactic278 that was a complete sentence you braindead mongrel. Learn to finish school.
@@autodidactic278 I'm north African and he's right we are amzigh which is also known as berbers and we have minorities black and white because they are descendants of slaves.
They were Africans and like all Africans groups they were extremely diverse in their appearance but regardless of their skin tone, they were AFRICAN!
Hl
Hiphop Master. Actually black people have been the angriest group of commenters on this video, followed by North Africans. Haven't really seen many angry whites.
Yea and middle east
African but a morphological caucusiod population group.
Fabbeyond Jefe Morphological Caucasoid is a meaningless pseudo scientific term. The medieval Moors originated from North west Africa and had absolutely nothing to do with the caucuses of central Eurasia, even if they did have small amounts of Latin and Celtic admixture. I could just as easily say they were a 'morphological negroid' population, due to their larger amounts of Cushetic and tropical west African admixture. However I think it's more simple and accurate to just call them African.
You guys really need to check Leo Africanus' description of the Moors. Leo Africanus was a Moor himself and he described the Moors as varying in colors from white berber, brown berber, and negro berber. So all depictions of Moors are somewhat accurate.
there's no such thing as a brown or negro berber, modern racial classifications are nonsense
Tamahue are the white moors
Accurate and balanced. It's hard to find these kind of videos without either an overzealous Hidden Colors type vibe or a passive aggressive eurocentric / white supremacy undertone. Kudos.
The passive aggressive one pisses me off.
Similar to how they try and blend patriotism with prejudice and racism.
They have not changed
I thought so as well.
Well I think he was really trying his best to make Moors seem like they were "Non-Black" people.
Plus what the romans knew, they learned from Eqypt.
@@Drcase they were none black people
One of things I noticed was the descriptions of Moors were different depending on the context. We know that the Islamic Berbers often relied heavily on Super-Saharan Africans militarily because Berber clans were considered too unreliable for Moorish rulers up until even 100 years ago (see: "The Black Guard" in Morocco). So, regions where Moors lived, i.e. Spain, depicted a diverse array of ethnicities. But the places that mostly interacted with Moors militarily, i.e. France, England, Italy, often saw the darker/Black Moors, which shaped their perception of them moving forward. And we have to remember: Europe at those times did not have a tourist industry; most people were provincial and only knew of things outside their purview through word of mouth, which was how legends were constructed. History - AND historiography - is so fucking fascinating, y'all.
First sensible comment I got on this video in months. Either some angry North African or white is saying that I'm blackwashing his history or a black guy is saying I'm whitewashing ours. They can't just accept the fact that Moors are not a homogeneous people.
I think part of the problem is we think of racially cosmopolitan societies as a new-ish phenomenon; that once disparate groups couldn't have possibly intermarried or lived among one another prior to European colonialism, which is patently not the case. Yes, there was always mistrust and racism even within these societies, but they weren't so easily stratified by race like we saw in the colonial Americas (which was a function of slavery).
I also find it funny how many of the staunch Afro-centrists will cite European sources that align with their beliefs, but reject ones that counter their beliefs as "white supremacist lies," especially with the Moors; they want so badly to have a connection to Europe that we'll gloss over fact to promote ideas that give us a sense of hegemony in the region when the truth is far more complex - and far more interesting insofar as it speaks to the human condition.
Lastly, since there are SO many other examples of Black African greatness, personally I don't care for the Moors outside of them existing as a fascinating extension of African history.
Join our Discord. We can use another person like you. We have nearly 300 members. Ones with racial ideologies don't last very long because the community is built from the ground up by people like us.
Done and done.
We are amazigh not berber.
you were right aout the toxicity of the comment section ppl get sooo buttheart about skin tones .iam north african myslef algerian from the kabyle tribe one of the berber tribes we still speak the native language here .so yes verry proud of my culture
The strangest thing to me is how I literally have blacks and whites commenting the same change, one saying that I whitewashed the moors and the other claiming that I said they were all black with both parties totally ignoring the fact that I said that they were not a homogenous group.
@@FromNothing are they from these regions tho to feel the need of debunking our race lol i mean if anything no one cares about skin tone in algeria .
and another question why these obsession with race tho does it matter so much ?
@@berediafebourahlayasmine3087 Its people growing half up in the West who have problem with skin tones.
@@berediafebourahlayasmine3087 i remember a dark skinned Algerian who was not allowed to be Miss Algeria because she was too ugly only because she had darker skin tone. You can lie to those Americans who have no idea what's happening in the continent but not us
Malkia Penelope Ndoole that’s actually bullshit. It’s the media that took the story and blew it with their narrative. Every year the miss Algeria is humiliated in the comments, and last year because she was from the desert, the western media took the story and claimed it was racism. Look at her interview and you’ll see she said there is no racism.
6:25 Avocados come from Mexico, and weren't known in Europe before the age of Exploration.
@Jermaine C. FN wont admit who the moors are because he's an Afrocentist. He wont talk about the Carib _'Bushnegros'_ of South America and their Arawak-Taino relatives of the Greater and Lesser Antilles.
@Jermaine C. He knows more then he's telling us, is the vibe im getting from him.
Moors are the Moroccan nowadays and they were the real leaders and the creature of Al Andalucia Spain now for 800 year stop stilling our history
@North African thanks bro
I am Morroccan and my father is a ghomari from the Ghomara tribe witch is the biggest tribe in region of Tetouan and Chefchouan, my Mother has El Morabit in her passport and is born in Tetouan.
Tetouan is the city where the Army's gathered to invade Europe and the same city as where Andalusian family's wich moved from Spain After the Reconquista now these days still live.
Recently i did a dna test and results are 75% North-African 18% Iberian and 7% Italian.
All of my family mebers have white skin and black hair like most mediterreanean and some of them dark-blond with bleu or green eyes.
I can't understand why black people claim our history even Morroccans from southern parts off Morrocco wich have more Amazich/North-African Dna even they will not claim the Moorisch herritage.
Bruh, in Spain they will tell you themselves that the Moors were predominantly black.
Don't call that somewhat racist lost scared fool your bro. @@elbohike3500
Clown, Morocco as a country was officially founded Mar 02, 1956 so what are you really talking about?
Treatise were signed here in the states with the original Morocco.
There are way to many books by various authors of all races that tell the truth so who are you to mix your nonsense and lies into the mix and who asked you any way, clown?
I can't understand why your 75% North-African 18% Iberian and 7% Italian makes you an authority in any damn thing Asiatic peoples, Moorish, Morrocan, Al Morouc, Autochthonous Americans, Al Maghrib Al Aqsa = Morocco = The Furthest West (Western Hemisphere) or anything else Moorish.
Take your jealousy elsewhere.
Oh and one more thing clown...The American (Al Moroccan) people, as defined in Websters dictionary, are any one of the various cop-per-colored natives found on the continent by Europeans. The National identity Moor, comes from Al Moroc-can, which is contemporarily called A-mer-ican. The Americans (Al Moroccans) copper-colored skin contains. So shut up.
Azulay,
I have never been in into a discorp group.
Tell me more about it!
Send me a link and i will check it out.
By the way i do only speak Arabic there is a sub-tribe in the middle of Ghomara who are named Bni Buzra they do still speak the Ghomara Amazich.
This Amazich dialect is more then 3000 years old.
Tell me more about youre tribe Azulay is known as jewisch the right hand of the king is named Azulay.
Black power has people in their feelings.
Lol
Don't claim others history as your own.
That is self degradation.
Make ur own
who is claiming history here? sounds like you're just insecure LOL
Great video mate! recent sub. Thought this was going to be another revisionist history on this, but was pleasantly surprised that this is probably the most balanced realistic commentary on the subject I have seen on CZcams.-Thank You
Moors means only the amazighi North African people who live for centuries in this place, with a specific North Africa Dna of these people, the rest are migrants or slaves descendants.
A Real Moor of Morrocco ⵎⴰⵙⵏⵙⴻⵏ 🇲🇦💪
No , majority but not only .The Arabs from the ummayad dynasty were the very elite and high rulers, and the North Africans were the majority because of the geographic closeness and because most of the other Islamic army were busy elsewhere .
Antoine Shelby l was referring to the moors in Spain , not the Moroccan people in Morocco
Antoine Shelby
Wrong
Science already spoken on this and debunked your separation bs
Get educated
Antoine Shelby
You bs
That what got debunked
Get educated before you open your mouth
Rayane Esco I’m a morroccon decent from Sri Lanka, so it’s correct in saying I’m a Moor. 😍👍
Moors refers to the Moroccan Empire "Mauritania"
@@ramitababe2087 Black in the language of the region is Adam (adam means dark or black)
@@ramitababe2087
moors are moroccans only
@yaasseer22 mauritanian are moroccan
@ⵢⴰⵙⵙⴻⵔ “Mauritania tanges” this is the whole name
@@jackal25301 wrong, argelins, tunysians, lybians... are too moor.
Saying that moors looked like north africans tday is pretty unrealistic
Unless a people are subjected to mass genocide or mass migration wherein invaders become the majority, a people's ethnicity in a location will usually stay the same over thousands of years. North Africans living in and around the world's largest hot desert is a major deterrent to ever being invaded and replaced.
@@aaronmclaughlin4745 they were pretty much a mix of different ethnicities
Aaron McLaughlin
North Africa was literally invaded by practically every major power ever
@@aaronmclaughlin4745 apparently you're not aware of the waves of foreign invasions in northern Africa. The further south you go in north african countries the blacker the population.
@cbenji07 none of these fools know history, its pointless.
The winners always change the history.
And blacks are rising now.
why would they change it if they are the "winners"? wouldn't they keep it the same?
@@underarock9447 politics my friend.
@@saraqostahterra4548 yes the root of all divisions right?
They were the losers and the thief’s not the winners that’s y they changed the story so they look like winners
Muslims of Spain, there is no such as moors. It’s just word Europeans used for Muslims who conquered as derogatory term. They where Muslims who came from Arab tribes in Arabia, with the newly converted Berbers.
Ma Somali batahay? hadaad tahay Somali, ogow inaan nahay East Africans before we are Muslims. Haday carab inkirayso tariiqda dadkeena, Muslimnimo ha ogu hiilin ayagaba Muslimnima xaqeena uma eegane.
Match Accepted Being Muslim comes before qabil or Somali or any identity you think is relevant.
You're right but it's SLANG not a "derogatory term"
Moors, did not look like those in the north Africa, middle east region today , they are Nubian, black folk!
@أســـامة القيسي by falisha!
Read moors books and youll see they werent.
Wow interesting. I’m a Muslim from Sri Lanka and we are called Moors. Im very interested to know how we got the name. Personally I know my ancestors came to Sri Lanka from Morocco but I don’t know how we got the ethnic name “Moors”
That's a good question. Europeans used the term as a vague descriptor of Muslims (esp north african), and maybe Sri Lankan Muslims adopted the term as a homage to some of their cultural roots?
Tamil Ruzaika maori tamil is aboriginal maori were the first kings of india
So you are my brother.
Krimo Ab yes I’m your sister in Islam and humanity. If you are from Morocco we might be cousins too 👍
moors came from mauritania the moroccan kingdom
Anytime non Europeons invaded parts of Europe, their asses were eventually kicked and thrown out of the continent. The Persians vs the Greeks, Moors vs the Frank's and Spaniards.
like your channel, cuz you're unbiased.. i hope you grow
Dont call upon anyone exept Allah. U shouldt felte ir comment. He dont even reaf ur comment
i'm of nigerian 🇳🇬 paternity and ghanaian 🇬🇭 maternity, with some amazigh 🇲🇦 (berber) ancestry, but...i was born and raised in america. 🇺🇸
beautiful video brother. 🎥
@@rohacha9iin40
it comes from my paternal side, my dads mother, her mother was amazigh. 🇲🇦
James Rich
Ohh how hurtful of you
@@rohacha9iin40 stop being rude and embarrasse us , to wrong doesn't make it right
Best Dad ⵣ shut up ay aghyoul
You wish 😂😂😂🤣🤣
Home Team History does a great job of breaking down which parts of Africa the Moors came from, the relationships between the different types of moors, and what was said about thee Moors.
Olan Dan false. That’s like saying if you break in or walk in and live in my house like genetic magic you historically become me. ??? With that logic then they are no people of distinction... just say Europeans are different type of Europeans. With your logic it says you’re not the owner of your house or father of your children... you’re just a different type of owner or father??? Stop with the look at them today cretin trick.
Moors originally are and always will be a dark skinned people. The people you misnomer as black today are the diaspora of Africa, aka Moorish. Cretins are always liars.
TheNobleMoor thank you!
@@CastleNoble When people break in and walk in, they tend to leave obvious traces in the phenotype among the people whose "house" they're entering. This is why southern Spaniards look more like Moroccans/Arabs/North Africans. If the moors were majority black, the southern Spaniards would have more sub-saharan traits. Remember that this is not exactly ancient history, and black skin is a dominant trait. It's simply silly to believe the moors were black, especially considering that they weren't portrayed as black in contemporary art. There were obviously black moors, but they were a minority.
@@CastleNoble u idiot, all moors were muslim and spoke Arabic. They were not black/subsaharan and have nothing to do with u.
Ur a pathetic loser trying to claim ancestry of modern North Africans
Awakend soul777 Wrong.
The Wikipedia regarding such controversial matters tends to have a Western Agenda.
My take is that Moors was just used generally for all the Muslim conquerours crossing the strait of Gibraltar.
I just saw a Nat Geo documentary on Mauritania and some Vlogs of Mauritania. The Nomadic people there were Brown, Wheatish, White-somewhat, and Blacks as well.
Modern day Mauritania is not the same as the Roman province of Mauritania. Modern Mauritania was but a province of the larger kingdom of Morocco, called Chinguitti, until the French colonized in 1912. When Morocco gained independence, different provinces gained independence as different countries, giving rise to modern day Mauritania and Western Sahara. So modern Mauritania being but a successor state of the larger Moroccan empire was called Mauritania after the historic name of Morocco. Even their location on the map is different, modern Mauritania is a country that is located right in the middle of the stretch of land making up the Sahara and Sahel regions of Africa, while ancient Mauritania was a kingdom on the coast of Morocco much further to the north. I hope this clears up some confusion.
Wekepidia is not a reliable source that,s for sure.
Its very simple really. Moors were a diverse people made up mainly of Arabs and Berbers...Berbers again being diverse. Sidenote: most berber descendants in north africa today call themselves Arab, and their countries are in the Arab league and the younger generation speak no berber language
I am amazigh and i indentify myself not as a arab and i speak tamazighy you fucking liar
@MO MO lol.. You contradict yourself. 60% speak Berber and 40 % are arabized but maghreb is 100% Berber 😂😂
Where did your 40% arabization come from
Everyone who knows North Africa knows its controlled by Arabs. And most of the berbers don't mind attaching themselves to the Arab identity
@MO MO stop contradicting yourself. If North Africa is 100% Berber where did the arabization come from and why are Arabs running the government.
Shut the hell up and construct your argument properly
😅 You are so confused
Good that you are fighting back arabization though but don't come here Insulting me and running a contradictory argument you just embarrass yourself. I wasn't the one who told your people to allow Arabs invade you
@@mch7933 we are berber not Arabs in Morocco 90% are berber
Being of various skin colors isn't unique either. Look at India, the people's skin can rage from coal black to allmost paper white.
It's clear the Moors were Amazigh, Berbers they say and some mix Arabs. That's the original. Some black Africans surely migrated there but they were not native to that region, like there are black people in Britain, doesn't mean that England is their native land.
Where are there native land then?
I’m from Morocco and I can tell you there are very dark skinned an very light skinned Moroccan people. My grandpa was black while my grandma was white so yeah there is much diversity.
The first sensible comment I've gotten in a while on this video.
+Edge Master. Yes, there is an overwhelming majority of light skinned Moroccans as well as a small minority of Black Moroccans who are the descendants of Black Moroccan slaves, mainly sourced from the annexed Songhai Empire. But for the French Protectorate there would be yet more Blacks and more 'diversity'.
John Carter lmfao always trying to dumb down a black man just stfu bro
Sorry Edge master my message was not meant for you
I am originally from Morrocco born in Netherlands and i can tell both these country's have a history of slavery.
Netherlands like Morrocco allso has a small minority Blacks who consider themselfs Dutch that doesnt mean they technically are.
My advise:
Stop claiming and start making history.
The comments are toxic
They r lol im a Moore
Those paintings are orientalist artwork from 19th century and dont prove anything.
The moors were all muslim and spoke Arabic. They were not like subsaharans. Tariq ibn ziyad is the one who led the first invasion and he was definitely not black.
Like the commenters
@@ameen7538 So, you've essentially ignored the entire video, and im also going to guess how you won't admit that Muslims caused the Dark Ages of Europe either, or are the ones who started the slave trade across africa.
@@sarttee the dark ages of europe happened because of rome falling
Go to Spain and see how they depicted the moors.... they were black hands down 1492 moors were expelled from Spain
*as well as copts in egypt
Have you guys been to Spain and saw the moors my older sister is half German her husband is Turkish and they both KNOW most moors were black well at least most of the descriptions and portrayals IVE SEEN THEM and read about them no disrespect but FROM NOTHING straggles the fence on these topics we have to remember for 400 years whites tried to colonize history and historical achievements it’s known America looks nothing like it did before Europeans and neither does Africa whites were lying saying they were native Americans to encroach on there benefits and the hatred literally came from moorish conquest
Robeltoable Bruh just cause you say it doesn’t mean it’s true they specified differences bro there is no caucus Berber “with a face as black as a cooking pan” white people hate to admit the shit like mainstream told the lie and y’all ran with lookup the moorish crest Watch the movie Black Knight Robin Hood Othello
Robeltoable bro he has sources in the video lmao u r in denial but I got you
Proudfrom Kuwait505 LMAO!!! we need to for real any other good ideas
Bro this has nothing to do with this video, but please consider reading books like "Black Spark, White Fire" or "Black Genesis" by Robert Bauval. I know brothers like yourself find credence in European descendent writers to avoid biases. I was once where you are. I didn't have any faith in black writers because their claims seemed so ridiculous. It was such a contradiction to my Westernized training. You're an awesome and passionate researcher. Your passion will mature you. Africa is a continent where people exchanged information, abilities and techniques for eons. Much longer than our textbooks suggests. We can't let other people tell our history in pieces.
Don't mistake my comments as a diatribe. I recognize the potential.
White people love your channel. Eye opener.
Chad Tep Very Well Said
Couldn't have said it better.
I searched up white fire nothing came up.
U loser ur in denial. Stop trying to claim things that have nothing to do with u. Even after hearing it from an unbiased black man u r in denial
Man I think the exact same thing after watching every one of his videos. If white people "like it" or thinks it's unbiased/makes them feel better, it's usually because the message is still interwoven with white supremacy.
If you talk about really controversial stuff you'll blow up talk about the ethnic identity of ancient Egypt that will be really fun i wanna see the comments
The ancient Egyptian were as diverse as the moors, i bet you that it will be a beautiful debate just as the moors topic.
That Guy It will be a 1000 times worse the hoteps and the super Egyptians viewers will be having a war in the comments. The 25 dynasty actually had black pharaohs that's something a super egyption and other eurocentric asshats never talk about.
@@tambal40 i agree, the 25 dynasty was when the nubian actually took over Egypt. Its actually one of my top 5 favorite sub-suharan African empire. They were the only ones able to restore Egypt durind the 3rd intermediate period both culturally and military. They were recognized as a world power and being only one the few kingdom to combat the neo-assyrian empire. They Literally brought Egypt to a renaissance. This was known as the napata era of kush. Plus the nubians did help egypt out durring the 12 dynasty and pre-dynastic egypt. Not to mention nubians and other cushities ethnic groups like horn are the only black people related to the Egyptians. No other sub-Saharan racial groups are related to the Egyptians and the kushites. So the hotepers are just wasting their time. As black from America people our ancestors worship things like voodoo in west africa and other west African traditions. Berbers from Libya also help with creation of ancient Egypt so to me it was a multicultural society just like moors. The ancient Egyptian origin are still unknown. The last test on dna mummies proved their were from the levent, but the ancient Egyptian considered the ancient punties the ancestral homeland or home of the gods. The punties were Somali people who are also cushite as well. Besides to me ancient Egypt is in over rated civilization to fight over, it wasn't even the first civilization on the african continent it was nubia. Not to mention its not the first major civilization in world it was other civilizations around the the Levant like ancient sumer, or the indus valley that was proven to be older. Egypt took alot of influence from Sumer like writing languages. Egypt didn't have the biggest empire plus they got conquered to many times in history. Nubia actually survived alot longer. I feel like dar tichett and ancient nubia like ta seti should be cradle of civilization like egypt, china, sumer, india, and greek, or at least for black Africa sakes. Cradle of civilization is opinionated to me.
@@thatguy464 Yeah I'm Sudanese and it makes me extremely sad how great we used to be and the world still doesn't know. But one day one day Africa will be a superpower and a great renaissance will occur.
@@soleb542 as an African American i support you guys. Once i graduated from college i really want love to come visit north Sudan one day
From Nothing - For the most part, what you stated in your video was true. There is just one detail that I believe you should have included, that was neglected to be mentioned. Many of the Moors who one would consider as black Africans, were not just Tuareg Berbers. Many were Mande people who were conscripted into the Almoravid armies.
Moors came from the word *Mauritania* the old name of Morocco.
Mauri means LAND. Tania means Mine. (MY LAND) and it's a Berber word
After moors become Christians they changed the name of Mauritania to *Maur n akouch* And it means LAND OF GOD. and from this word Morocco get its modern names:
*Morocco/Marruecos/Marokko.*
So ya; Moors means Moroccans.
Thanks, i didn't know that. Where did you found this information ?
À moins que tu ne sois un Marocain amazigh bien sûr.
moors were never blacks. north africans descibed subsaharians as being blacks or "zanj" for example :Ibn Battuta, A.D. 1331
"The geographer al-Idrisi ascribes 'lack of knowledge and defective minds' to the black peoples. Their ignorance, he says, is notorious; men of learning and distinction are almost unknown among them, and their kings only acquire what they know about government and justice from the instruction of learned visitors from farther north."
you can easily find quotes about subsaharians from north africans who lived in that era like ibn battita and ibn khaldun and see that they clearly saw them as differant
Where is the source of this quote, because I find that hard to believe he said that?! And btw, there were "zanj" people in North Africa.
@@chukwuemekaanyimukwu7312 Sudan is Berber for black so ironically the North Africans referred to their southern neighbors the same way the Romans did theirs. Zanj is the former name of Zanzibar which was a the hub of the slave trade to the middle east. It became a short handed for sub-Saharan overtime.
@@mysticonthehill sudanese people aren’t arabs stop lying
@@mysticonthehill and sudanese people aren’t arab theres 0 berbers in sudan
The people who made thoughts qoutes never travled to the interior of africa. Things like that were made up by otther black africans and then arabs to justify the slave trade.
Spanish King Alfonso X called “the wise” gave an account on the invasion “All the Moorish soldiers were dressed with silk and black wool that had been forcibly acquired… their black faces were like pitch and the most handsome of them was like (black as) a cooking pan” [
That's because many soldiers came from west Africa. Not the people themselves. Learn history.
@@saraqostahterra4548 right ..people forget that just like the Roman legions absorbed whatever army they conquered into their own, Islam would have done the same with people they conquered....hence the Moors would have had Africans in their army..but that doesnt mean they themselves were dark skinned Africans
Man Antom mmkay racist
Man Antom You northern Europeans had no civilization until North Africans and Levantines came in so you better not be talking about Slaves. Even the word slave comes from the Slavic people lol i can’t 🤣
Alfonso X famously ordered the making of several manuscripts such as the cantigas de Santa Maria or the book of games. In it you see that during the time of his life the majority of the Moors were white Muslims, with a lot of berber mercenaries and some black soldiers and intendant. The Nasrid did not rely on a black mercenary or slave army, but on morrocans, thus diminishing their numbers in the peninsula overtime.
Moors = amazigh berber north africa
Yes and not blacks
Moorish Moroccan they the “Arabsk invaded Africa dumbass and took over but you know
@@moorishmoroccan5324 there were and are berbers who are black lol
@@PixelGraphicful no they are fake berbers, they descend from slavery
@Griffith Taka Arab = build Petra, and others monument before Islam, others famous pre-islam arab like Ghassanid 200s AD to 630s, Nabateans and Himyar in bC, Negro do not have any single wonder and grand sophinacated wonder in ethiers SUb-saharan, only just wall and simple stone like Zimbabwe which Inca build much better.
Great video man!
Mad people about to be big mad
Butthurt individuals, you can smell the salt from a mile away.
Some corrections:
1. Almoravids did not "conquer" Al Andalus, they were called by Spanish Muslims to help against the Christians when Toledo fell; they won some battles but El Cid defeated them at Valencia. They took advantage of the chaotic situation in the muslim territories and took control of all the different muslim kingdoms, and they even recovered Valencia once el Cid died, but they did not conquer anything else, Toledo remained christian. They put a halt to the christian reconquista though.
2. Moor is a word with many meanings and variations over times. In medieval Spain moor became a synonym of muslim which is still used today, with no distinction between Spanish, Berber, Slavs or Arab Muslims living in Spain. Moor in the 16th century till very recently became a synonym of black in Western Europe, (Otello by Shakespeare is a great example). Blackamoor was an art style depicting "black moors" developed when the Atlantic slave trade began and black slaves arrived to Europe, so the depictions of black moors Afrocentric claim as evidence are not contemporary of real moors, and the same with Saint Maurice, he was Egyptian but the images depicting him as black are not based in any historical data, Thebes is not in Nubia, so he was most likely a regular Egyptian.
3.Spaniards did not burn "all knowledge", there was the "limpieza de sangre" concept as ethnic cleansing directed at Islam, the religion, but not medical or agricultural advances.
4. The dark ages affected western Europe, Constantinople and the east roman empire endured many centuries, so knowledge did not "disappear" from Europe. Muslim Spain was wealthy because commerce did not collapse like in the rest of western Europe, which was the main reason of the impoverishment during that era.
Berbers are the Moors, the native people to northern africa who inhabited the area for thousands of years. The moors were not black if that was the case Spain would look like present day Brazil.
@Fuck CZcams There are far more of 2 million berbers,and many of the said arabs are just colonized berbers.
Didnt see any dark skin people when u show how the moors look...but in the historical artwork it had dark skin people...black people
Thats orientalist artwork from 19th century. It doesn't prove anything
Just look at how Jesus is portrayed
Dark skin does not mean the common description of "black people".
exactly.and theres still statues of moors in europe & theyre all black...
@@jaydeep3983 to a fair skinned European, a dark man from India would be considered a moor....dark skin does not equal black..to fair skinned Euros back in the middle ages, a modern day man from Saudi Arabia would be considered a Moor...you aint said nothing
If you think this is toxic, try the Hebrew Israelites, man!!!
,,, abrahamic faiths did not start the insane practice of genital mutilation.
@@adamnesico
Stfu.... what is it with you and female circumcision? Just because a couple of tribes in Ethiopia does it don't mean all melanin rich tribes did it. Dumb ass
Dude
This video is hilarious
Facts 😂😂😂
@@adamnesico Female mutilation has nothing whatsoever to do with Abraham I fallow the teaching of The YAH of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and that has no part in our heritage, only Male circumcision. Ethiopians are not a decedent of Sham the are decedent of Ham. Abraham taught his son the LAW OF YAH IE THE TORAH.
I say it like this. The moorish empire encompassed a large amount of land and because of that they were not a homogenous empire and honestly no empire is. So are and were there light brown skinned north african moors? Yes. However its clear that the ones Europeans encountered for whatever reason were frequently described as black. In the medieval era you see Moor and Black are almost synonymous. Shakespeare play Othello about a moor who falls in love with a Venetian woman always depicts the character as a black man even so much so that when they had plays about it the actor would dress up in black face. The modern flags Corsica and Sardinia have moors on their flags to symbolize the throwing off of Moorish dominion and both are depicted as black.
@@adamnesico I understand there were different dynasties but i was speaking in general as Europeans didnt care about the politics and complex ethnic divisions within the moorish empire. They just called the black people they often saw moors.
Stop desperetly claiming history that is not yours.
I am Northern Morroccan and my mother has Al Morabit in her passport Its her family name.Spanisch pronounce the name as Al Moravit, the V is pronounced as B.Iff you had some basic spanisch you understand.
The only reason why Morroccans aren't here to refute youre nonsens is because most speak either Spanisch of Frensh.
@@ouailouail4605 you are northern Moroccan. Have you seen or know all Morocans? No. Did you know that certain dynasties of the moors stretch down to modern day Senegal and is not limited to Morocco? explain to me why portugese travelers to senegambi called the inhabitants moors. Explain why the Corsica and Sardinia flags that are described as being symbolic of throwing off moorish rule clearly shows a black person. Explain why Spanish writera described them as "black as pitch". Explain why Shakespeare's play wright Othello where the main character is always depicted as black. Lawrence fishburn plays his character and in an old movie they even used a man in black face to represent othello. No matter how you spin it, there was a heavy presence of black Africans in moorish lands. You are desperately trying to whitewash moorish history
Devinn Todd there certainly was NOT a central presence of black Africans 😂😂 those moorish heads on the flag are just darkened to the degree that it’s obvious. It’s symbolic. They didn’t actually look like that you moron.
Arab Moor born in Muslim Spain named Muhammad Al-Idrisi writing in his Kitab Rujar, took note of the Zanji's ( blks) “furrowed feet, stinking sweat , lack of knowledge and defective minds ''
The word moor comes from the Greek word mavro meaning purple or blue, it was associated with phonicians because they invented the color
This
Moroccans are the moors
Moors were Negros their Statues are allover Germany
@@cytkl No, I am 100% DNA Nord African Berber (Moroccan), I'am a super BLOODY WHITE
@De AIVD kijkt met u mee. (Moors)Moroccans still exist, (Numidians)Algerians still exist. (Carthagenians)Tunisians still exist. Even with coronavirus we will still exist.
@De AIVD kijkt met u mee. We know our history sir, Our Country was named Mauretania(Morocco nowadyas), and it's inhabitans were called Maures, Moors. THE kingdom of Morocco is just a name from MORAKECH(Morocco), the names changed but the people still the same.
Morakech in berber means Mor(Land) akech(The God akech)
Mauretania in berber means Mor(Land) Tanit(The Godess Tanit)
@De AIVD kijkt met u mee. Would the Mooroccan Empire be America (North and South)?
Excellent video bro! As George Costanza would say: "I love the Moops!"
Perhaps the only channel dedicated to african history that isn't afrocentric biased.
It's so amazing subsaharan africa never had any pyramids but we're supposed to believe they came up to the Mediterranean and made pyramids!
How tf is this related to the video
Fuck off Nazi
Moor is another name for the Maghrebis aka North Africans . They used to be known by the Romans as Roman Africans . They are Native North Africans ( Berbers ) with little Arab or European ancestry .
The language they speak is Maghrebi Arabic , a distant variation of Arabic that is unintelligible to other Arab speaks and is heavily influenced by Berber languages . Maghrebi Arabic includes Tunisian , Moroccan and Algerian Arabic .
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Your people are nomads who was runnin like a coward 1000 years
If spain didn't give you a home 😁😁😁😁😁🤪🤪😄😄😄 South maghrib was fightin your anchestors didn't fight .
Moors=Moroccan 🇲🇦
Moors are either Moroccans or Arabs who colonized spain. Algeria and Tunisia have nothing to do with this.
I am north african ( berber , amazigh) best video of an American on CZcams About moors or Berbers the Same alot of people don t even now there history making video's About the amazigh cultuur good job men
Moors were not blacks. This guy lies.
@Ibrahim Al Walid They want you to be Caucasian That is how much They hate your darkness of skin . They hated the Moorish in Europe.
Thanks for this. This taught me about where my Sicilian last name (Mauro) came from. All I could ever find was that it meant "moor."
I'm from Morocco and I appreciate this video thank you.🇲🇦👍
Are you black marocain
@@hamzaalmdghri8741 zwina hadi xd
Thank brother i am morrocan from morroco and we are Amazigh morro or Moore or moorish and proud To be
@Fuck CZcams They definitely do! Even the ancient Egyptians interacted with them! There were Amazigh tribes living in the Nile Delta! Different Amazigh dynasties ruled (not continuously) over ancient Egypt for more than 600 years! The Punics encountered them in modern day Tunesia. The Romans encounter them. The Arabs encountered them. The Spanish encountered them. The Turks encountered them. The French encountered them. Saying they don't exist is like saying gravity doesn't exist!
Amazigh is just a collective term for a wide range of people. Just like the weird Moor or Berber. I don't see the issue with that.
@Fuck CZcams "The Name amazigh Was Never Used To Mean Anything Until France Decided That It Did. No One Ever Called Himself An amazigh..."
Wrong mate! Leo Africanus, who wrote his famous geography book "The description of Africa" in Italian in 1550, in which the following line can be seen, this is using the oldest English translation by John Pory around 1600, which says, and I quote: ""The Berber language was called Aquel Amarig, the noble tong, and it was the true and natural language of the Africans.""
In Ibn Khaldun's mythical origin stories of the Amazigh he said that they descended from Temla son of MAZIGH (quite suspicious if the term was created by the French) son of Canaan son of Ham son of Nuh (Noah in Christianity). This was in the 14th century, way before the French came into North Africa.
"well you can't change history and past events based on your whims and wishes. And you didn't even choose that name, French colonizers chose ut for you. These peoples are different in culture and language and have little evidence to suggest that they are or once were a unified people group."
Historically they were never a united people, just like the Germans were 300 years ago, doesn't mean they didn't share history, culture(s), language, traditions and food. And as I proved it didn't come from the French! They quite do share quite a lot: They share similar languages, they share genetics, they share cultural similarities, they share food, they share history etc. Of course there are some regional differences and diversity.
But to round up: The word Amazigh is definitely NOT created by the French and so are the languages, culture(s)!
I am going to end this comment with a quote from Ibn Khaldun:
They belong to a powerful, formidable, brave and numerous people; a true people like so many others the world has seen - like the Arabs, the Persians, the Greeks and the Romans. The men who belong to this family of peoples have inhabited the Maghreb since the beginning.
- Ibn Khaldun
@Fuck CZcams'' Like I Said. The Word Berber Is A Real Word Used Throughout History. "
There is no 1 "real" word used to refer to the Imazighen. There are different words to refer to the different Amazigh people and tribes, such as Meshwesh, Tehenu and Mauri but words used to refer to them all as a whole include: Amazigh/Imazighen and corruptions of this word, Libu, and Berber.
"The Word amazigh Isn't."
Yes, it is as I have shown you. The world isn't black and white. The Romans called the Greeks Graeci, while the Greeks called themselves Hellenes even before they united as a political entity. Again, another good example of people with a similar culture, language and deities. At the time there wasn't a united Greece, but they still knew they were more akin to each other than to outsiders. Does that mean there were no Greeks at the time? No, of course not! The same goes for the Imazighen: They called themselves variations of the word: Tuareg call themselves Amahegh/Imuhagh.
''And Germans Still To This Day Have Distinct Cultures In Each Region And/Or Province.''
That is the point I am making, they are like the Germans. They share history, food and culture and similar languages, but have regional differences.
''I Was Talking About The Word Itself. Berbers, Tuaregs, Riff People, Kabyile People Exist. amazighs As A Unified Sociopolitical Cultural Entity Does Not Exist.''
Indeed it is not a political entity, but they share culture, language(s) and traditions and genetics. So they actually do exist as a socio-cultural entity, just not as a political entity.
''Mabye As Muslims But That's An Entirely Different Identity.''
Not all Imazighen are Muslims, some are Jews and Christians or atheist, but most are Muslim.
''And Germans Were United Eventually. The Maghrebies Weren't.''
There was no united German state 200 years ago. So are we now going to say that there were no Germans 200 years ago? I hope you understand my point. That they aren't politically united doesn't mean they don't exist.
We are Moors and we speak Moor . Came to Burkina Faso and see. is only because we are not English speakers and our history is been written by our enime France that is why
A non biased account that detailed historical moors. Thanks, (As well as Egypt - Khemet).
Whats interesting to me is how there are Europeans who understand true Moorish history more than so called "black" people
Would that have anything to do with the Educational Systems they were brought up in and then being privy to certain information or there lack of????
@@carboncrowns32 exactly.. there's a reason not many black ppl Kno r learned of Moors. Never seen in textbooks. Don't down those that don't know, introduce n teach plz..
@@carboncrowns32 Or maybe it has to do with the fact that history books don't entertain african-american conspiracy theories.
@@Flyingtart No! They just entertain the white ones lol
Black people are starting to wake up !!
Ibn Battuta (1304-1377), visiting the West African kingdoms, is much delayed on the black skin color of the inhabitants, which he does absolutely not for his own Berber people.
Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406), a great historian and precursor in the art of sociology, was incredibly racist towards the blacks, whom he considered the only people worthy of slavery. On the other hand, as a descendant of Andalusian, he feels a great respect for the Maghreb Berbers and an aversion towards the Arabs of the hillalian invasions. But concerning these peoples there, no mention to their skin colors.
Abu al-Hasan ben Uthman (1331 - 1348), Merinid Sultan, was nicknamed the Black Sultan because of his interbreeding with an Abyssinian mother. Which is strange enough for a people supposed to have always been black according to Afro-centric racial supremacists.
Gabriel Camps (1927-2002) and Charles André Julien (1891-1991), two recognized authorities in the study of North Africa (and not a professor of chemistry completely lit like Cheikh Anta Diop) have always supported the character deeply Berber of North Africa, rejecting the accusations of genetic miscegenation with the Arabs.
Obviously, they could not imagine that they would need to debate with black supremacists about the skin color of Berbers.
Finally a black person on CZcams who's not an afrocentric
Thanks so much for this perspective. In Morocco they say the Berbers came in with the wind.
Berbers are native white africans
@@moorishmoroccan5324 Thank you MM
Thoughts on the video:
> YESSS KANG IS BACK! +1
> Avacados? Weren't those native plants to the americas? I'm a bit confused here.
Back from his long voyage in space flying the Great Pyramid.
BLACK A MOOR!
you still have not learned yet hidden of the sekret traydIng between west africa and the americas B4 COLUMBO THE LOST!
When did he say avocados
HiddenHistory Africans traded with native Americans
You've triggered alot of afrocentrics
First of all kudos to your video , this is one if not the best depiction of factual information about the subject I have seen . I live in a place where there are several moor artifacts and remains , albeit a few incorrections in your video , it is for the most part very factual .
This is the most reliable source for African history
Grand Master Crusader Another good one is home team but he slightly does have a afrocentric biased
@@grandmastercrusader8724 now i just need Jabari to debunk the black native American claim.
If you become a patron I think he will do your request.
* As apose to the Eurocentric bias of most western historical sources.
He's black tho
: Btw, black ppl can make brown, light, even white skin (albino as well).
That's not to say ALL Moors where "Black". Just saying brown and light/white skin doesn't mean Non-Black.
Facts 💯💯💯 no other race can.
Also brown people can be with all shades, what about India ? your argument are nonsense
@@Luna-dh6yt: No, you're simply uninformed.
The "Brown" ppl of India (the ORIGINALs) hail from the Dravidians who in term migrated out of northeast AFRIKA Millia in the past.
Q: Why do you think EVERY DOMINANT genetic characteristic of "Hue-mans" can all be found only in Afrikans (brown hair, brown eyes, brown skin, even wide noses and thick lips which were in sync with the earth way back in our family existence, etc.
A: Bc th@ is ALL of our roots, the rest are mere "branches" of the family tree.
FYI: You can't even get curly hair phenotype without a "Blackroot" somewhere in your ancestry.
@@Luna-dh6yt : Ps: Even Chinese (seemingly as far away from "Black" as you can get aside from Caucasians) geneticists had to admit their findings concluded even their roots go back to Afrika.
They incorrectly believed they had a different origin.
Sorry, NOT sorry, Hater
Booker T Coleman said they came from around Tanzania. Up around through Ethiopia to North Africa.
Great video! LOVE your channel. Wondered about this topic for ages and good to get a down-the-middle, balanced and more importantly FACTUAL video on this. Cheerz from Pakistan!
The oldest recorded instance of people being in Mauritania are Sarakole and Bafour people. Mauritania is part of the Senegal River. The original Mauritanians are black. People from North Africa and Middle East came down and flood it.
Mauritania is in West Africa.
Sword of Africa
Now Mauritania is 40% mixed Black and Arab
30% Black
30% Arab and now people don't even know about the original black inhabitants just like Australia or the Americas.
Admire Kashiri
Look it up yourself and Mauritania is West Africa, North Africans migrated there.
Sword of Africa
Berbers aren't native to Mali/Mauritania.
I plead the fifth
Black doesn't necessarily mean negroid for 1
And the original People of Mauritania were the barfour People. Black People with Berber dna
Now find me those credible sources that says mansa Musa didn't exist and that Arabs built great zimbawe. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I plead the fifth
What?
When did I ever say berbers we're negroid? I said barfour were black people with Berber dna
Actually, it was the Ummayads, (the 2nd caliphate after the Rashidun Caliphate), that conquered in the Iberian Peninsula from the Visigoths. And when the following caliphate, the Abbasids overthrow them, they refuged in the Iberian Peninsula in Cordoba, and formed the Caliphate of Cordoba. It didn't control any land in North Africa, (it was the Abbasids that controled it).
Then around 900 or 1000 the Caliphate collapsed and was divided into several taifas, until some fanatics from modern day Morroco called Almoravids decided to conquer those taifas in around 1100, which were then taken by the even more fanatic Almohads, in around 1100s and 1200s. They were so fanatic that they decided to stop the Dziia, and started to persecute Christians and Jews, and thats why by the 1290s the Kingdom of Castille conquered all the way until Tarifa, and only the small Kingdom of Granada would stand until 1492.
Ummayad is a political entity, like saying America conquered northern Mexico. It doesn't inherently describe the ethnicity of either groups in question.
@@donovan5656 immayades were a family
I am proud to say I am of Moorish extract. Sicilian people are largely Moorish despite them wanting to admit it. I like your video and didnt really see any explosive comments. I feel we have progressed beyond that....fingers crossed.
You mean who are the Moors, we still like we never left, we just took a dirt nap to let the rest of the world come up, And the Moors are back!!!
There are no races
All of us are a different shade of brown
@Admire Kashiri False. Humans are 99.9% identical, that .1% is what makes us unique. Race is a social concept.
@S E P Speak louder brother.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste!!
This is actually accurate.
@@justsaying4887 right knowledge is power and having the intelligence to understand that we are all the same Dna says so is a beautiful thing i agree with u
Really cool video. Glad you did it despite the amount of flack you knew would be coming your way. I would say that one criticism i would have is that you didn't fully explain how the term "Moor" gradually started to expand to diffrent groups. Ex. As Trans-Saharan trade routes kingdoms were built and expanded the slave trade started to mix genetic lineages at a rate that was never seen before across the sahel region. This resulted in the term "Moor" gradually being expanded to other groups of people just as the term "Frank" was used to refer to all crusaders from an arab perspective despite it being a term attributed to people of modern day france. Anyways thanks for the video.
Correct The moors were of a mix race from the slave trade
Thanks for this! I was looking for an explanation of the Moors that was not "colored" by conventional "wisdom." Your approach seems even-handed and independently thought out.
The Moors were of African descent! Saying that they were mixed with all races is like saying that the Greeks were also mix of all races and the Romans too
When did I say they weren't African? I literally said "The majority of them are 100% indigenous to Africa."
From Nothing from what you mean by the majority of “THEM” I hope you mean dark skinned autochthonous Africans because whites were still in Europe before they got transported over to North Africa through the Barbary Slave Trade. This is why whites Want to call us slaves all the time because of the fact that Europeans were originally slaves back at the time.
spider879 The moors were also Turkish as well
adamnesico Southern Europe is also a mixed population too
adamnesico you do realise that the generosity DNA test Is nothing more than just her conjecture used as a form of entertainment, right?
I will add some more toxicity to the comment section. As an African who knows his history and follows current affairs on the continent, I was completely shocked at the fact that African Americans celebrate the Moors and identified with them. The Berber groups since the islamic invasion have rejected their Africaness. Black Berbers (Amazhigs) do not identify themselves with the Black African ethnic groups. This antagonism is even more visible in Mauritania where the black Berbers (the Haratines) flat out described themselves until recently as non Africans. These are the same people who are till today being enslaved by the Arab Berbers in that country. The one thing that those African Americans who worship the Moors have to ask themselves is did the Moors inject an African identity to Al-Andalus? And the answer is a definitive No, there are no words remnants of Wolof, Fulbe, Soninke etc... left in Spain. What we find are Arab and Berber influences not Black African ones. The same goes for the architecture, arts and other aspects of human activity.
The Bani Hilal invaded North Africa in the 11 century. I had heard about this wave of migration years ago but did not know of their name. Though it was a big migration movements, historians often dispute that it massively changed the race of the people on the ground. Where you're definitely right is the fact that they brought about the identitarian Arabization of North Africa. My main point however is that what we refer as as Moors is mostly Non black African in culture. As FN said the descriptions of them are made by white people from the Middle Ages who had never seen people of different races (ex: La chanson de Roland) and for whom a typical Arab was to considered black. I studied in French schools and when you read the original European texts about them you have to realize that there is a lot of exaggeration.
Yes.. this was and is done. But, I can call myself white or even a cat, it doesn't make it so... we know who they are.
White racism is a potent poison... to the point it makes us hate ourselves. Combine that with religion... Islam that made Arab holy... ande everything else wrong and you really got a problem.
The same thing was done hear.
To avoid slavery in the 1700s a group of mixed black people left the Virginia colony for the wilds of Kentucky and Tennessee... they denied their blackness up till the 19th century and bred it out so....i they ands their children would not be put back into slavery.
The moors did this too. Islam does not allow you to enslave muslims... so many people converted to avoid this. For years dark skin meant non-arab ands by extension, non-muslim... so we got to a point of hating ands disdainment for darkskin Africans over brown skin Africans...
To black people in American we see Darkskin ands light skin black people in places like Sudan... but they don't.
@Proudfrom Kuwait505 did you know in the United States because of racism, you are considered WHITE? The whites wanted to claim the history and heritage of Babylon, Persia, Jerusalem and Egypt... so on our census it classifies why people are being orginated in Europe, Middle East and North Africa! Even if you are dark skin and from this part of the world, the U.S. government will classify you as white! We know historically the original people in these areas were not pale skin...and that the pale skin people can later out of the northern plain and also from Alexander's invasion of the are, but that's rejected by many white people here...
PSA2 'Berbers since the Arab invasion have rejected their 'Africaness'?'
The Arabs invaded North west Africa nearly 1400 years ago at a time when Africaness didn't even exist as a concept. There were tribal, religious and linguistic identities, but broad continental and racial groups didn't exist back then. European powers introduced racial groupings and nation states in the 18th century during the colonial era.
So if these north African groups now reject their African heritage (which is probably true in many cases), they have only done so since the colonial era, which is no more than a few hundred years at most. In other words, modern day racial concepts had no baring on how medieval Moors viewed themselves or others.
American blacks, on average, are not so bright.
Once again very informative video nice work.
Just a little addition, what we are calling Moors were under an banner name called Muslims. From Islamic history u will come to know that ethnicity was something that was being discarded to bring people closer and end racial/ethnic pride in people. Most of what you've explained are also well detailed in Islamic history but it ws only mentioned Muslims as I said ethnicity is not something highlighted that much.
Racial speaking the Moors are neither blacks nor arabs as they are mainly descents of North Africa. Having spent over 6yrs in Morocco, the north african Berbers/Amazigh (aka the Moors) come in all shades. Some resemble the arab and others are almost indistinguishable from sub saharan africans like myself.
NB: They were not exclusive to Morocco but I just it as an example from my experience but most north africans of today are nothing close to the description on Moors of back then.
That's funny because most of the European artwork of the Moors were Jet Black Africans. Statues, paintings and Jewelry. Even their coat of arms flags have a head of a jet black Moor on it.
I have one nitpick and that's the European dark ages. I don't disagree that there was a definite decrease in the quality of life, urbanism, and education, but the rest of Europe outside of Spain wasn't stagnate, and that really only applies for a century. The Carolingian Renaissance was a period of architectural growth brought on by Byzantine Roman designers and Charlemagne's reforms would lay down the foundations for Europe's universities, and slowly the literacy rate would grow. It was also around the time of Al-Andalus' shattering into the Taifa period that the technology for building castles and cathedrals were developed, which likely did involve some degree of influence from both Moorish Spain as well Byzantine Rome.
Don't get me wrong, at the time Al-Andalus and the general Muslim world was miles ahead and I'd much rather be living in 10th century Cordoba than Paris. The Moors had the good life well until the 12-13th centuries, but the rest of Europe wasn't always a lawless and anti-scientific wasteland during the Middle Ages.
I agree.
@So Mari I don't disagree. However the point is that Europe didn't stagnate; it had cities, education, artistic and scientific innovation.
I think you're either on the wrong or the right channel, can't tell which one.
At any rate there's these things like Egypt, Nubia, and Ethiopia. Maybe start there.
An interesting video! However, the so called dark ages (historians usually refer to them as the early middle ages nowadays) weren't as dark as is widely believed. The term dark ages comes from the enlightenment when it was actually used to refer to the entire period between the fall of Rome and the Renaissance. That is a complete nonsense but even with the more limited timespan it is exaggerated. Yes, the Eastern Roman (aka Byzantine) Empire and later also the Muslim Caliphate(s) were indeed more developed than most of (the rest of) Europe before the year 1000. But while the end of the western part of the Roman empire created a sort of a power vacuum and inherently a lot of instability, I think 500 years of chaos is grossly exaggerated. Particularly the part of Europe that eventually became France was fairly organized by the 700s. As far as southeastern Europe goes, there was no real collapse there as the Eastern Roman empire lived on, even managed to reconquer a part of the old empire for a time. As for central, northern and northeastern Europe, most of it had never been a Roman territory to begin with so the fall of Rome didn't affect it as much (or in the north probably not at all). The only places significantly negatively affected by the fall of western Rome were modern day France, Iberia and Italy (Britain was abandoned much earlier). Admittedly, these were also the most developed parts of Europe outside of the Eastern Roman Empire. Italy ended up being devastated the most but that was mostly during Justinian's restoration in which he tried to reconquer the western part of the empire and much of Italy was destroyed in the wars with the Ostrogoths. So yeah, for some parts of Europe there was a period of a clear decline from the 6th century onward but it didn't last 500 years and it definitely wasn't 500 years of chaos. By the way, early middle ages are fascinating in some parts since the christianization of Europe shows a lot of patterns similar to the spread of the religion in the Americas and Africa. Many pagan deities and spirits were incorporated into the religion as saints to make the adoption of the faith by the "barbarians" easier and also their worship was somewhat strange by modern day standards - saints were often seen as sort of demigods who could and would kill people who angered them and had to be appeased.
First Egypt people was black aka nubian they fucked via inbreeding and infighting
The moors was black and brown as Islamic society grows some whites turks would join the moors and become muslims so the moors was a mixed group mainly black
In the dark ages whites was dieing from a common cold knife wounds if you healed any of those you would be doing witchcraft
@@Worldwidewhat-wb bruh this is not true
@@Worldwidewhat-wb
You writing style doesn’t come off a well educated so it’s no surprise that everything you write in that style is completely wrong.
It needs to be noted that modern academic practice has stopped using dark ages. It's now medieval. Europe at the time was not that dark.
as far as saint Maurice is concerned he died in the 3rd century and the paintings depicting him as Sub saharan black are from the 13th to 16th centuries. the artists could not know what he looked like they only know he was born on the African continent a concept that didn't exist in his time also the Armor he wears in some depictions looks well ahead of his time. we don't know what he actually looked like but he was probably not what he is depicted as.
I'm glad to be a Muur/Moor a good name is worth more than gold and remember Moors were not black whenever you use color you invoke color of authority which is an atrocity and was really created to steal one's birthright...thanks for the video.
Dividing black people has always been popular amongst devils, religion and the "arabization" of us Afrikans is sickening. Brazil, Australia, South/north America, Egypt and Argentina are perfect examples of what happens during a invasion. First the natives was there then people with light or whatever skin showed up and today you would obviously not recognize the natives land comparing with how it looked like 1300 ad, the majority of their languages is not even spoken now they speak Spanish. Why can't we say that natives always spoke Spanish? Why do people think that the population in North Afrika looked like today in 200-800 ad? That's nonsense, north Afrika around 800 was black/dark in many tones and shapes because Afrika was not divided like today back then. After all the invasions in North Afrika the skin tone changed. It's like European countries today, they are getting more immigrants now so is it right to say that those countries always looked like today when it comes to diversity? Be realistic
I find the term "Devils" quite offensive my good sir
Love this video, should be part of a study of history for youth
From Nothing. A common problem in dealing with "Black" history is that most people are quick to say who is (or was) & who is not Black without defining what "Black" is. I am very light with curly hair. Am I Black? For some people only people with extremely dark skin, extremely wide noses, extremely thick lips and extremely coarse hair are Black, but I beg to differ. Black people are the most genetically diverse people on the planet because we are the oldest. Our phenotype is probably the most diverse as well. White people will typically label someone in the ancient world as "non Black". But if that person lived today they would typically be regarded as Black. Thus the standard for being Black in the ancient world raises higher than it normally would be in the modern world.
No north Africans were not always Arabic looking these are immigrants . North Africa was dark skin black look at England coat of arms
reddish brown.. like cheddar man
adamnesico they were black skinned
Invaders not immigrants
@@adamnesico Lol Afrocentric people can't understand that north Africa was caucasian since prehistoric caveman times
@@adamnesico possibly but I a know blacks were all over Africa despite different facial features skin tones because in the south we still have the khoi San who are the oldest people living in Africa, they a fair skinned so I know Africans come in all shades but the Arab looking up north are hybrid descendents
"The word moor has its origin in maures which was what the romans called mauritania" loool i like how he fails to mention that the word it self is a racial designation in greek and romance languages meaning black. I didnt watch any further, this video is a joke.
*" I like how he fails to mention that the word it self is a racial designation in greek and romance languages "*
Nope, I actually mentioned that it literally translates to the word "dark."
*" I didnt watch any further"*
That shows.
@@FromNothing you shouldve said moor means black. Dark connotes being tan. The moors were not tan but were black
Mohr is the German word for Moor. Thru migration some eventually settled in Germany. There were periods when people were invited into the country. The Plague was a time when people were invited. Repopulation . They were required to be Catholic.
My question is even if all moors were black why do you see more African Americans fight for that some moors were dark skin yes but that doesn’t mean they were your ancestors or where you’re from? And that’s coming from a Senegalese/Mauritanian man to me it just seem like glorifying a group of peoples because they had a close proximity to people you see as superior in this case Europeans so it’s just inferiority complex
I agree. However there were actually Senegalese Moors. 4000 troops from the Kingdom of Takrur (modern day Senegal) partook in the Almoravid invasion of Iberia. That's why you can't quantify Moors to just one people. "Moor" is just a blanket term."
@@FromNothing yes i understand that concept since where I’m from we use maure more as a classification for peoples who are more Arabized culturally than let’s say a wolof man it doesn’t really have anything to do with race anymore so it doesn’t really make sense for peoples to fight over if they are black or not since they can be any race
@@moustm4698 As a black guy who isn't really an Afrocentrist I can see why relating yourself to a people who have done amazing things that also look you. Seems appealing. I THINK we started doing that because american schools gush about Rome and brittain, and Spain. And only graze over Africa only going into Egypt. Only now are kids learning about Mansa Musa. And it is when america GIVES black people "no history" they try to find there own in a sometimes misguided way
@@bleggedentertainment1275 true
@@bleggedentertainment1275 I see anothe reason for that.
Afroamerican muslims have influence over the movement.
In muslims, have a cool ascendancy is needed for be cool. If you dont have, you must fake one.
For afroamerican islamists, the pagan subsahran origin is shameful, so they lie saying they come from Magreb for be cool.
morish or moors it's the name of moroccans pepoles in north africa they were not black
there is same black pepoles in moroco but they were salve not master ..so black pepoles don't make from yourselfs that you were masters!! you were our slaves.. sorry for that but it's the truth..we teache european slavery..ok
While I do agree that most Moroccans weren't black, it's simply false to say that all black Moroccans were slaves. The Takrur kingdom for example provided 4000 free black soldiers to the Soldiers to assist in the Almoravids in the conquest of Spain. They were allies, not slaves.
To answers your question, the Moors (literally coming from the oldest known definition)
"Being a dark people in relation to Europeans, their name in the Middle Ages was a synonym for *Negro* ; later (16c.-17c.); being the nearest Muslims to Western Europe, it was used *indiscriminately* of Muslims (Persians, Arabs, etc.) but especially those in India. Cognate with Dutch Moor, German Mohr, Danish Maurer, Spanish Moro, Italian Moro. Related: Mooress."
Hmm... 🤔 Well we all know what Negro means.
Then it reads "later (16c.-17c.); being the nearest Muslims to Western Europe, it was used *indiscriminately* of Muslims (Persians, Arabs, etc.)"
Which means that the term *Moor* was not being used to describe anything else other than *Black* until the 16th and 17th century when they began to "indiscriminately" (which means carelessly) used it to describe everything else except.
Kind of sounds like a cover up to me soooo... Yup, Moor literally means Black.
"Moor" refers to the people of historical Mauritania (Morocco and Algeria). First Slavic people were used as soldiers in al-Andalus, they were called Saqaalibah. This was for practicality. Using local soldiers was unreliable, because they were tied to their own culture or tribe, and thus potentially biased. Soldiers of foreign origin didn't have that bias as they had no tie with local cultures and tribes.
When the al-Moravids, who came from north-west-Africa and thus were Moors, conquered Iberia, Iberia became part of a Moorish empire. Unlike before, where it used to be its own state, the Cordovan emirates or the taifa states. The al-Moravids used a lot of black soldiers for the same reasons the Andalusians used Slavic soldiers.
In the past, interactions between separate empires were mainly military. Tourism didn't exist like now. So, when other people in Europe came into contact with the moorish controlled regions they encountered black soldiers. Not the citizens. By spread of worth and mouth (like it used to work in the past) people saw the moors as black.
Edit: forgot to add this
Many Europeans, mainly Spaniards and Portuguese, started to use the word Moor to refer to other dark people. Between the Andalusians and the northern Christians there was always a connection or mutual understanding, because both were Iberian. Just like you see in the balkans. However they perceived North-Africans as black because they only encountered their soldiers, who were often black, like explained above.
Black too can simply mean darker skined, can be simply an exageration.
A spanish tv comedy has a character called Negro.
He has dark skin and wooly hair.
Thats undoubtly a black, you would think.
He isnt, he is a native canarian of tanned skin and caucasic features.
He says in the comedy he is called negro becasue when they were teens he was the darkest skinned of his spanish neighbourhood
@@adamnesico yh, you have that too. I have don't that too sometimes with dark brown Moroccans as a joke haha
@@adamnesico why do yall keep trying to write blacks out of history like we magically appeared?
@@skipmarshall3840 Its you who try to write peoples who dont look like you out of african history.
Berbers and arabs.
The Moors were not sub Saharan Africans.
Some were, some weren't. They were a very diverse group covering many races and ethnicities.
Like he said in the video it is like calling all Americans white
Shoutout to the Blackamoors.
Shoutout to those Oranges.
Shoutout to The Treaty of Peace and Friendship.
Shoutout to the Flag of Corsica and the Black Holy Roman Empire.
Black Holy Roman Empire? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@jerryscaglione9621
Im really familiar with defense mechanisms. If you're laughing to keep from crying, then power to you fellow.
A quick google search will break your heart.
@@carboncrowns32 cringe intesifies
@@rodrigorafael.9645
C'est la vie.
In more time periods then not Moors were predominantly Arabs with some Berbers And Bantus in there ranks and too a lesser extent Islamic Whites
This is true. I am of Moor and Spanish decent.
I am Caucasian because I am mixed with too much stuff and don't know all of what I am lol