@@timbarenbrug4958 I agree in tournaments, but what about social matches? People have to pay and if they don’t get the ball hit to them it kind of sucks don’t you think?
@@EverythingPadel No I don't think so. You are there to play, improve and that means endure the same conditions as tournament play would provide if that is what you and your friends want to do.. The whole idea of banning something from social play because it was voiced in a CZcams video seems to completely contradict the term social to me. To call this tactic controversial because of fights seems somewhat childish to me. It's within the rules. If you don't like it invent your own sport. Who says that padel is a sport where each person should carry half the burden instead of each having to carry it twice. Also if your partner is getting alll the balls it's his/her job to apply pressure and make the opponents return a shot from a difficult position which is difficult to place. That way a person can get out of the fridge naturally. It's something that you and your team mate have to figure out.
@EverythingPadel This is totally acceptable and a common tactic in a tournament or a league match. The common thing to counter this is playing down the middle or return the favour of the Fridge. Same if you find weaknesses in someone’s backhand etc… However agree with you during social matches that this shouldn’t be used. Everyone had paid for the session and wants their training time so therefore it’s a bit more frowned upon. However if this is still being used then implement similar tactics to involve your partner in the game
Easy way to deal with fridge is have the guy getting all the balls constantly caress the net and the guy in the fridge stay at the back of the court. The other team is gonna want to give balls to the guy in the back of the court (number 1 rule in padel) or lose. The tactic is legit in well leveled matches.
@@EverythingPadel It always works. If you are put in the fridge, go back, wait behind the line and you will even have the chance to get all the balls in the middle, as your partner will want a bit of a break and you'll have more time to move there than if you are stuck at the net. I don't like this tactic in social matches, as it defeats the "social" aspect. In tournements, no merci; anything goes within the rules.
I'm often put in the fridge when placing.😅 These tactics are useful! Thanks!! I was thinking of taking a shit in my oponents padelbags. But i might try your suggestions first.
This is totally valid and within the rules, but I think it depends on the players how effective it will be. It is not so easy to target every ball to the same side either, so if they are using this strategy on you, play balls to the player in front, avoid the crossing one. For example, if you are playing on the right side, aim at the player on their left side, playing this kind of balls is more difficult.
@@EverythingPadel I have never really gotten into tournaments, but it has happened to me alot in social matches, and I have called out every single one. In Denmark where I am from, we mainly have pay and play, and it's soo frustrating to pay.. and not play!
It's a valid tactic... in every team sports people tend to explore advantages over the other team. Sometimes there's a weak link or someone is not doing too great at that moment.
The reason we love sport is that it is free from moral judgement, just play by the rules. If it is not working, a player will seek out an equal partner.
In social matches it is unacceptable and boring. When I experience people using the fridge in practice games, I just never play them again. This ofcourse only when it's obvious and in longer periods. In tournaments it's fair. Not sure about mix :S
This happened to me in Pickleball. In one rally I was fridged for a solid 5 or 6 hits in a row and when the ball finally did come to me, I messed up an easy play. If it happens in rec play, I would avoid playing with that pair in the future. In tournament play, you should try to have players of more equal abilities where fridging becomes less likely because it just restricts the opponents to half a court.
this tactic is terrible, but it does happen and it makes sense to have a strategy in place to deal with it. Also on another note. I've seen a lot of padel videos, but yours are by far the most impactful on my game. Keep up the good work.
I think the real problem is players playing padel as if it were an individual rather than a team sport. I'm fairly high level and still play with/against loads of people who won't discuss tactica with their partner. Opposing team doing a nevera? The active player needs to net rush and play heavy parallel shots. "Snowed in" player needs to pick up the middle of the court. It's an effective tactic but by no means does it break the game.
Can't see a problem in tournament play. It's happens in many sports, targeting the weaker areas in an effort to win. If you enter a tournament, anything, within reason, goes! Socially, it's no go. We're all there to have fun.
I think there's also a bias, you notice more when you're being fridged than the opposite, so sometimes you think it's happening when it's actually not. Otherwise, I agree with your view: fine in tournament, not cool in casual play.
What about body shots? Are they used much on padel? In high level tennis doubles sometimes is easier to aim the guy on the net at point blank since they dont have time to react... maybe in padel is easier to defend? At the same time you are more likely to be closer to the net (?)
This. In the examples used here the other player's shots were so weak that it was easy to leave the partner in the fridge. It's not happening if all players are more or less equal in ability.
I agree it’s part of the game and in the rules so nothing wrong it. However I wouldn’t use it when playing socially against a pair with an elderly/less mobile player. There are better ways to try and win and practice shots
I see very little problem with this. If you're playing to win it is instinctive to play to the weakest link...I'd say it's not even always a conscious ploy, but just the 'safe' shot. As someone else said....send the targeted player to the net and the stronger player drop back for a few shots, let the stronger player engineer a position of strength, and then capitalise.
Let’s be honest. This will not change. If you play rugby and the fullback can’t take a high ball. The next phase is going to be 9,10, high ball. If you play football and the centre back is 5’4, you know you’re going long balls into the box all day. It’s part of sport. When I’m the weaker player I get pelted. If I’m playing well and can’t miss at my level and my partner is not having much luck I get put in the fridge. It’s how you deal with it that is more important. In my opinion only. I tend to play on the left, but if I was playing on the right I would have no issues with my attacker coming from the left to intercept a killer volley coming to me if it helps me out. But again, at recreational level I hear a lot of partners arguing about moving into each others halves. I did like the idea of mirroring the fridge cross court though. Not something I’ve tried, but something I will definitely consider in future. In summary… like all sports, part of being a good player is identifying weaknesses in the opposition and trying to execute a strategy that exposes them. If you’re not going to do that, It’s not competitive. Good video that. 👍
Thanks Neil! Yeh, there was a section in this video that I cut out where I spoke all about how it’s used in other sports, like football ect Yeh , give it a go
All fine in a competitive match. All part of beating the opponents technically, tactically and mentally. One element is that by targeting one player you may actually be playing an un-natural shot which could bring risk into your game.
I have no problem with this rule, in all competitive sports you play to your strengths and expose your opponents weaknesses, in a friendly I just cant see the point your there for pure fun. If I am frozen out for a bit use it to rest, if I am the one getting all the shots great that's why I play and pay my court fee.
I feel too much pain when fridged! By the way, sometimes it's not "real". I remember once I got really CRAZY for getting fridged, I was so angry and upset. Then I reviewed the recording and it was absolutely not true. I felt soooo bad, and now I don't know what's real anymore hahaha
If somebody is using the fridge against you, I think it would be easier to target 1 player back, so it just becomes a 1v1. Then they aren't gaining anything from it anyways.
Today I played a mixed match "boy + girl" vs "boy + girl". It was a competitive match on Playtomic and they put me in the fridge. I got totally frustrated. I accepted it until a certain point, the line that has been crossed is when all the guy smashes went on the girl. they were not even good smashes, they bounced high from the glass and if they were shot in my direction I would have sent back all of them. I got so pissed. It was the first time that I went home 10 minutes before the end of the time, at the end of the third set. Also, if you have already won the first set, if you have some decency at least on second set you try to be more fair in my opinion. On the other side 2 weeks ago we put one of our opponent in the fridge (it was all boys this time), but this was to achieve some sort of balance, we ended 1 set each and the third set finished 5-5 because we ran out of time. I would keep in account if the fridge is helping the balance of the game or give you a easy walkover.
I think fridging is fine in any competitive games (tournaments, leagues or any competitive playtomic game for points). In my experience i've played a lot of beginner players who partner with people who are amazing (thinking a 1.0 rated player with a 3.5 is my most recent game)... in that case it's hard not to target the obviously weaker side. As for the comment on not smashing it at women... seems a bit wrong, if thats the best shot for the moment then take it, they have as much right to face your best shots as the man does and ive played with a lot of women who are a lot better than some men i've played with.
Tbh I think it's a boring tactic to play even if it's really effective. I played a match in a league and we had to win three sets in order to move up to a higher league and we knew one player was worse than the other so we played about 85% of the ball to that guy. The tactic worked and we won the three sets needed. After the other guy complained about it although no fight broke out but since the match was important to win we didn't care if he got mad or whatever. And to be honest it felt like a good sign he got mad because first we did win the match but also we were able to make a tactic work which isn't always that easy for us. But in training or social matches I think it's not ok it's really bad but in any type of matches where points or something is rewarded then the fridge is ok, imo.
You cant ban something that is within the rules of the game, just get on with it and use the same tactic back against your opponents, its all good fun.
You have to know how to play while getting isolated in tournaments so why change for casual play.. you will just not be able to deal with getting no balls in tournaments if you don't practice while in practice..
you can't complain about it.... especially in competition, it's part of the game. But even in a friendly game let's see the bright side of it : if YOU are the weaker player, it will force you to improve your level and so you'll progress. That was my mindset when I started. Good job on your videos, thanks and keep going 😉
What do you guys think of this tactic?
I think you're whining. People who feel wronged by this tactic need to grow up.
@@timbarenbrug4958 I agree in tournaments, but what about social matches? People have to pay and if they don’t get the ball hit to them it kind of sucks don’t you think?
@@EverythingPadel No I don't think so. You are there to play, improve and that means endure the same conditions as tournament play would provide if that is what you and your friends want to do.. The whole idea of banning something from social play because it was voiced in a CZcams video seems to completely contradict the term social to me. To call this tactic controversial because of fights seems somewhat childish to me. It's within the rules. If you don't like it invent your own sport. Who says that padel is a sport where each person should carry half the burden instead of each having to carry it twice. Also if your partner is getting alll the balls it's his/her job to apply pressure and make the opponents return a shot from a difficult position which is difficult to place. That way a person can get out of the fridge naturally. It's something that you and your team mate have to figure out.
Standard and fair game in tournament/matchplay but not in social games where all pay to play and have a good time.
@EverythingPadel
This is totally acceptable and a common tactic in a tournament or a league match. The common thing to counter this is playing down the middle or return the favour of the Fridge. Same if you find weaknesses in someone’s backhand etc…
However agree with you during social matches that this shouldn’t be used. Everyone had paid for the session and wants their training time so therefore it’s a bit more frowned upon. However if this is still being used then implement similar tactics to involve your partner in the game
Easy way to deal with fridge is have the guy getting all the balls constantly caress the net and the guy in the fridge stay at the back of the court. The other team is gonna want to give balls to the guy in the back of the court (number 1 rule in padel) or lose. The tactic is legit in well leveled matches.
That’s so smart I didn’t think of that
@@EverythingPadel It always works. If you are put in the fridge, go back, wait behind the line and you will even have the chance to get all the balls in the middle, as your partner will want a bit of a break and you'll have more time to move there than if you are stuck at the net. I don't like this tactic in social matches, as it defeats the "social" aspect. In tournements, no merci; anything goes within the rules.
Fine in a competitive match, not ok in a friendly
Spot on
Unless it's a very competitive friendly match😂
I'm often put in the fridge when placing.😅
These tactics are useful!
Thanks!!
I was thinking of taking a shit in my oponents padelbags. But i might try your suggestions first.
Same just played a tournament and 95% of the balls were hit in my teammate’s direction
This is totally valid and within the rules, but I think it depends on the players how effective it will be. It is not so easy to target every ball to the same side either, so if they are using this strategy on you, play balls to the player in front, avoid the crossing one. For example, if you are playing on the right side, aim at the player on their left side, playing this kind of balls is more difficult.
Happens to me virtually every game I play. Totally acceptable in tournaments, but in casual play it is frustrating.
Yeh I would call them out on it in casual matches
@@EverythingPadel I have never really gotten into tournaments, but it has happened to me alot in social matches, and I have called out every single one. In Denmark where I am from, we mainly have pay and play, and it's soo frustrating to pay.. and not play!
@@jesper6765 yeh, that sucks especially if you have to pay
It's a valid tactic... in every team sports people tend to explore advantages over the other team. Sometimes there's a weak link or someone is not doing too great at that moment.
Perfect tactic, if you are a good pair you can get out of the fridge by playing the ball correct
True my guy
Agree that it's one of the tactics to win points and to win matches when winning matters.
I quite like it when I’m the targeted player as I get better the longer it goes on. Definitely frustrating when you’re frozen out though
It depends if its a friendly game or competition.
Don’t see a problem with it personally. Just part of the game. Happen to me and used it myself. Just a tactic.
Part of the game 🙌🏻
The reason we love sport is that it is free from moral judgement, just play by the rules. If it is not working, a player will seek out an equal partner.
In social matches it is unacceptable and boring. When I experience people using the fridge in practice games, I just never play them again. This ofcourse only when it's obvious and in longer periods.
In tournaments it's fair. Not sure about mix :S
Thanks for the comment bro
This happened to me in Pickleball. In one rally I was fridged for a solid 5 or 6 hits in a row and when the ball finally did come to me, I messed up an easy play. If it happens in rec play, I would avoid playing with that pair in the future. In tournament play, you should try to have players of more equal abilities where fridging becomes less likely because it just restricts the opponents to half a court.
this tactic is terrible, but it does happen and it makes sense to have a strategy in place to deal with it. Also on another note. I've seen a lot of padel videos, but yours are by far the most impactful on my game. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for sharing!
we can say from experience that ewan is a master at using this tactic, this guy should be #1 UK
🤣🤣🤣
I think the real problem is players playing padel as if it were an individual rather than a team sport. I'm fairly high level and still play with/against loads of people who won't discuss tactica with their partner.
Opposing team doing a nevera? The active player needs to net rush and play heavy parallel shots. "Snowed in" player needs to pick up the middle of the court. It's an effective tactic but by no means does it break the game.
Some good tips, but I feel like u need to catch the bus straight away after the video lol its so rushed
i dont like to waste anyones time haha
Can't see a problem in tournament play. It's happens in many sports, targeting the weaker areas in an effort to win.
If you enter a tournament, anything, within reason, goes!
Socially, it's no go. We're all there to have fun.
I think there's also a bias, you notice more when you're being fridged than the opposite, so sometimes you think it's happening when it's actually not. Otherwise, I agree with your view: fine in tournament, not cool in casual play.
That’s so true! If you don’t get a ball after like 4 shots you start thinking it’s happening haha
You are totally right, but as the most of us are saying, fine in tournaments, but not ok in social friendly matches.
What about body shots? Are they used much on padel? In high level tennis doubles sometimes is easier to aim the guy on the net at point blank since they dont have time to react... maybe in padel is easier to defend? At the same time you are more likely to be closer to the net (?)
Yeh, used in padel, but like you said, easier to defend and not really a big deal if it happens compared to tennis
I love the tactic ... It might be unfair if it's practiced on a weaker player... But it's fun when all 4 players are at equal levels
This. In the examples used here the other player's shots were so weak that it was easy to leave the partner in the fridge. It's not happening if all players are more or less equal in ability.
I agree it’s part of the game and in the rules so nothing wrong it. However I wouldn’t use it when playing socially against a pair with an elderly/less mobile player. There are better ways to try and win and practice shots
Yeh, that would be mean🤣
Only works, though, if the other player is weak enough. Luckily so.
I see very little problem with this. If you're playing to win it is instinctive to play to the weakest link...I'd say it's not even always a conscious ploy, but just the 'safe' shot. As someone else said....send the targeted player to the net and the stronger player drop back for a few shots, let the stronger player engineer a position of strength, and then capitalise.
Let’s be honest. This will not change. If you play rugby and the fullback can’t take a high ball. The next phase is going to be 9,10, high ball. If you play football and the centre back is 5’4, you know you’re going long balls into the box all day. It’s part of sport. When I’m the weaker player I get pelted. If I’m playing well and can’t miss at my level and my partner is not having much luck I get put in the fridge. It’s how you deal with it that is more important. In my opinion only. I tend to play on the left, but if I was playing on the right I would have no issues with my attacker coming from the left to intercept a killer volley coming to me if it helps me out. But again, at recreational level I hear a lot of partners arguing about moving into each others halves. I did like the idea of mirroring the fridge cross court though. Not something I’ve tried, but something I will definitely consider in future. In summary… like all sports, part of being a good player is identifying weaknesses in the opposition and trying to execute a strategy that exposes them. If you’re not going to do that, It’s not competitive. Good video that. 👍
Thanks Neil! Yeh, there was a section in this video that I cut out where I spoke all about how it’s used in other sports, like football ect
Yeh , give it a go
All fine in a competitive match. All part of beating the opponents technically, tactically and mentally. One element is that by targeting one player you may actually be playing an un-natural shot which could bring risk into your game.
Absolutely man
I have no problem with this rule, in all competitive sports you play to your strengths and expose your opponents weaknesses, in a friendly I just cant see the point your there for pure fun. If I am frozen out for a bit use it to rest, if I am the one getting all the shots great that's why I play and pay my court fee.
I feel too much pain when fridged! By the way, sometimes it's not "real". I remember once I got really CRAZY for getting fridged, I was so angry and upset. Then I reviewed the recording and it was absolutely not true. I felt soooo bad, and now I don't know what's real anymore hahaha
a lot of the times it feels like you are getting fridged when you are not even getting it
If somebody is using the fridge against you, I think it would be easier to target 1 player back, so it just becomes a 1v1. Then they aren't gaining anything from it anyways.
Today I played a mixed match "boy + girl" vs "boy + girl". It was a competitive match on Playtomic and they put me in the fridge. I got totally frustrated. I accepted it until a certain point, the line that has been crossed is when all the guy smashes went on the girl. they were not even good smashes, they bounced high from the glass and if they were shot in my direction I would have sent back all of them. I got so pissed. It was the first time that I went home 10 minutes before the end of the time, at the end of the third set. Also, if you have already won the first set, if you have some decency at least on second set you try to be more fair in my opinion. On the other side 2 weeks ago we put one of our opponent in the fridge (it was all boys this time), but this was to achieve some sort of balance, we ended 1 set each and the third set finished 5-5 because we ran out of time. I would keep in account if the fridge is helping the balance of the game or give you a easy walkover.
I think fridging is fine in any competitive games (tournaments, leagues or any competitive playtomic game for points).
In my experience i've played a lot of beginner players who partner with people who are amazing (thinking a 1.0 rated player with a 3.5 is my most recent game)... in that case it's hard not to target the obviously weaker side.
As for the comment on not smashing it at women... seems a bit wrong, if thats the best shot for the moment then take it, they have as much right to face your best shots as the man does and ive played with a lot of women who are a lot better than some men i've played with.
Tbh I think it's a boring tactic to play even if it's really effective. I played a match in a league and we had to win three sets in order to move up to a higher league and we knew one player was worse than the other so we played about 85% of the ball to that guy. The tactic worked and we won the three sets needed. After the other guy complained about it although no fight broke out but since the match was important to win we didn't care if he got mad or whatever. And to be honest it felt like a good sign he got mad because first we did win the match but also we were able to make a tactic work which isn't always that easy for us.
But in training or social matches I think it's not ok it's really bad but in any type of matches where points or something is rewarded then the fridge is ok, imo.
Interesting! Glad a fight didn’t break out 🤣
@@EverythingPadel Me too. 😆
So if a football goali isnt good with high balls you dont shoot them there so he doenst get sad? 😂😂😂
Haha exactly 🤣
You cant ban something that is within the rules of the game, just get on with it and use the same tactic back against your opponents, its all good fun.
Just switch sides midrally
You have to know how to play while getting isolated in tournaments so why change for casual play.. you will just not be able to deal with getting no balls in tournaments if you don't practice while in practice..
That’s a good point👍🏼
you can't complain about it.... especially in competition, it's part of the game. But even in a friendly game let's see the bright side of it : if YOU are the weaker player, it will force you to improve your level and so you'll progress. That was my mindset when I started.
Good job on your videos, thanks and keep going 😉
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