Every Argument Against Veganism | Ed Winters | TEDxBathUniversity
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- Can you keep eating meat after hearing this? Earthling Ed a vegan educator debunks every argument against veganism. Earthling Ed
Ed Winters is a vegan educator, public speaker and content creator based in London, England. Winters is the co-founder and co-director of Surge, an animal rights organisation determined to create a world where compassion towards all non-human animals is the norm. In 2016 Surge founded The Official Animal Rights March which succeeded in a growth from 2,500 participants in London in 2016 to 28,000 participants across the world in 2018. In 2017 Winters produced the documentary Land of Hope and Glory and launched the on-going moving activism project The Big Vegan Activism Van. He has spoken at over 1/3 of UK universities and has given speeches across the world.
In October 2018 Winters opened Unity Diner, a non-profit vegan diner in London where all of the profits go directly back into helping animals. He launched The Disclosure Podcast in February 2019. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
“A meal for us lasts only a few minutes, but that meal has cost the animal their entire life.” That says it all.
One thing he left out--what is used to make meat taste so good? Ah yes, plants! In seasoning--the use of herbs and spices--enhances the flavor. Without seasoning, most everyone (in this day and age at least) wouldn't participate in the consumption of meat. And there are plant-based alternatives (with similar texture) that we can season in the same we do meat minus the cruelty and it can taste pretty spot on.
O really think that vegans should just consume their own produce to make sure that they will not contribute to any death of animals during land preparation in vege farms
Its is called life, what nature has set for us as a part of the animal kingdom, its called the food chain
@@user-uo6fu2ff2f lmao
Radagast 11 lol, lion need to survive. we don't need to eat dead animals
It's soooo nice to hear him speak so fluently and calmly, without anyone interrupting him or arguing in circles like it's usually the case with the street debates
This! Made for a real nice change
Yup it's usually him forcing his ridiculous ideas on others.
Born Yesterday So you think that Ed didn't do that this time, that is nice.
Born Yesterday could you elaborate on that? How is having a street debate forcing your ideas on others? It’s not about forcing anything. If anything the meat and dairy industry forces schools and doctors to advertise their products. Vegans are forced to see meat adverts everywhere they go. Kids are usually forced to finish their dinner even if they don’t want to eat meat. There’s many videos of kids online getting upset and not wanting to eat meat but you see their parents forcing them to do so. Again, could you elaborate on how having a debate and going against societies norms is forcing an idea on others? You willingly clicked on his video. Nobody is holding a gun to anyone’s head, apart from the cows and pigs who are being bolt gunned to death. So please, elaborate on how he is forcing his ideas on others?
@@madeleineb9543 how sad, the poor children are forced to finish their food. At least they have food. Their parents work for the food they put on the table and they'll be wasteful if they allow their child throw it away. No seriously y'all need to offer all this meat you don't want to the tons of children I come in contact with here in my country. They will cry and thank you asking God to bless you for your kindness. Parents are doing what they can okay? Not everyone has the access to this lifestyle like you. Try to understand.
It’s been almost 7 months since I watched this video, and I’ve completely adapted to a vegan lifestyle. The only genuinely difficult part is that lack of understanding of people around me, but hey that’s not in my control. Thanks Ed.
Good on you for learning, adapting and making the compassionate choice so many are too scared to make. 🙂❤️
That's amazing :)
I also went vegan about 4-5 months ago. What I always seem to struggle with is protein an B12, since I have a very active lifestyle. Any tipps on resolving this issue?
@@2DaysOld Soy milk and nutritional yeast are my go tos.
@@2DaysOld Ever considered protein shakes? Like bodybuilders drink? Ohh and also, an active lifestyle needs Carbs way more than protein. Carbs give you energy, not protein. ;)
I'm already vegan but I come here every now and then to learn how to articulate and respond to various arguments thrown at me. Ed is a terrific speaker!
He's a great speaker and we need as many people speaking up for the animals as possible! Thank you for wanting to become the best advocate for the animals as possible. ☺️
something i have to do more!
@Happy Carnivore yet here you are…
What arguments ?
@Happy Carnivore I don't think it's that they seek it, people who advocate do not typically stay quite, the whole point of the advocation, do I agree with the ones that get aggressive about it? No, of course not, but those are the ones that let their emotions get the best of them. At the end of the day nobody is really right because this sort of thing comes down to whether or not you care about the other species of animals, and to give it to you straight, I don't. Not gonna lie about it.
I'm upset that the opportunity was there to call this an Ed Talk and nobody has taken it.
Duncan Harbison xD ahahahahaha
Hahahaha! Awesome comment!!
😂😂
Duncan Harbison highly upsetting, shall we take to the streets?
Awesome!
bruh ngl it was so nice to hear ed finally talk without being talked over
He doesn’t get talked over he talks over people so his inaccurate information isn’t challenged
Ratikant Sharma he doesn’t use any facts or proof
@@Assassin99584 nt 10 iq
@@SedgeII more like -10 iq
@AKS Exactly, couldn't have said it better
1:04 Personal choice
2:46 Animals are bred for that purpose
3:07 Legality over morality
3:36 Culture / tradition
4:32 Animal products as a necessity
5:33 Natural way of life
8:26 Lions eat other animals
8:55 Necessity (on detail)
9:56 Food chain - 10:26 specially relevant comment
11:35 Circle of life
12:06 What do we do with billions of animals 12:49 specially relevant comment
13:17 Vegans are hypocrites
15:11 Soya farming
15:45 Vegetarian is enough of a change
17:32 Humane slaughter
17:56 Taste
18:33 Vegans force their views
Thanks!!
Great comment!
No mention of protein and how quality of protein is low within vegan diets
@@michaelchareka1175 dude, if that was really a problem for vegans, our numbers in the global north wouldn't have gone from around a dozen to around 10 million in circa 75 years (between 1944, when the vegan society was established and now... and that 10 million is probs an underestimation).... google 'plant-based sources of amino acids', read what dr. greger says about it, listen to how the pros do it (e.g. Patrik Baboumian)
you won't find solutions to the 'protein problem' from vegan sceptics, cause they are not really interested in letting people know about the existing solutions. three quarters of a century of experimentation has gone into it, it's all out there, free information, google is your friend.
@Michael Chareka 4:32 animals as necessity. He specifically talks about how vegan diets can be healthy and actually protein is a really easy one to sort out (nuts, chickpeas, beans, protein powders for sports people etc.). If you're looking at Vitamin B12 and other similar needs, then yes supplements are necessary for a vegan diet, but that doesn't mean that meat is necessary.
It took me exactly 10 years from the moment I said "I want to become vegan" to actually becoming a vegan. I feel extremely proud of myself for achieving this.
Welcome to the right side of history ❤️
@@NoInjusticeLastsForever thank you, my mentality is so strong now that I'm never going back
same here!! I wanted to go vegan the first time when i was around 11 years old, but considering my parents cooked for me and they always put meat in the dishes i just didnt manage to do it. I often tried to experiment and at least remove the sausage for breakfast and stuff like that, but i was having a really hard time with it. I was doing that on and off for a couple of years till i finally managed to go vegetarian when i was 16 years old. Now I'm 19 and managed to go vegan a couple months ago. It was really hard for me, but I'm so proud I did it and I even influenced the way my parents eat. They are not vegan themselves, but at least my mom reduced her meat consumption greatly and switched completely to oatmilk.
@@annanas.arts1404this is bonkers pal
Do you know if you have the genetics that make veganism healthy or harmful for you?
I’m not a vegan but this talk has really helped me to understand why I need to stop using animal products and eliminate them from my diet. Thank you Ed.
🤟🤟🤟
Noice
Thank you Trey. Lots of recipes on line and CZcamsrs to help out.
It's pretty simple once you look into it a bit. I've been vegan for years now and I only wish I had done it sooner.
Don't fall for the propaganda. Dont fall for the lies. Eat meat. Its normal, nutritious, and healthy.
"I don't think people don't care, I think they don't know. Once they know it's hard not to care."
Maggie Q.
Something about this makes me think Maggie has 0 idea what she is talking about, I do in fact, NOT CARE
@@atlas2296 Sociopaths do exist.
@@AnnikaOrne Wow you can use the word Sociopath! You are such a big boy!
@@atlas2296 people didn’t not care about the Jews in concentration camps. They just didn’t know that much about it.
@@WilliamRMcLovin you are very wrong to use this analogy. Please never talk.
I've always lived by this philosophy: "if there is no victim, then it's not a crime", and somehow overlooked the fact that the animals i eat are also beings and are my victims. I want to try veganism a shot. Thanks Ed
Good for you. Started about 8 years ago and it's the best thing I've ever done for my life and my soul. It's like a weight was lifted off of my heart. Also, my health is beyond measure now. I'm 53 and run 6 miles a day. Climb 3 days a week and ride up to 100 miles a week when it's warm. And plant based food powers it all. :) Good luck to you. :)
Awesome! It's a beautiful life🌈❣️
@@simuliid It's not his life, it's his diet.
Veganism isn't just a diet though. You should look up the definition and familiarise yourself with the topic before commenting on it.
@@JordanDecay Not everything needs to be looked up. I lived in a world in which vegans exist for decades. I've talked with vegans, I worked with vegans, I've even been a vegan.
If some dictionary out there says that veganism is a lifestyle, it is simply wrong.
Thank you for articulating everything I have ever wanted to say in arguments with non-vegans
Same!!!!!
This guy's street interviews turned me vegan ~2 years ago and haven't looked back. Ed is possibly the best and most effective animal activist around today
No doubt my friend.
More like ever. I've been doing this for almost 30 years. He is absolutely the best I have ever encountered.
Research the other side in earnest,veganism is dangerous for health and the environment.
@@RunninQHsRock Please my friend, show us why you say that. Why is veganism dangerous to our health and the enviromment?
@@Matesponja he just said do your ownn damn research, gosh!
1) 1:10 “this is my personal choice”
2) 2:55 “animals are bred for this”
3) 3:20 “it is legal/cultural
4) 4:35 “we need animal products to survive
5) 5:40 “we are meant to eat meat” and “we have canines”
6) 6:35 “who cares if we are herbivores or omnivores?”
7) 7:55 “our ancestors did it”
8) 8:20 “animals eat other animals
9) 8:55 “if i was stranded on an island”
10) 9:55 “It’s the food chain! Circle of Life!”
11) 12:10 “what will we do with the animals?”
12) 13:13 “Mass production of vegetables=animals still die”
Like my comment so more can see so more vegans can debunk the justification of killing animals! THANK YOU ED!
LOL You need someone else to tell you why you ride so hard for your cause 😂.. I'm guessing most vegans are unable to fullydefend their position based off of there own feelings opposed to having someone have to give them generic arguments to use to combat meat eaters?
All of this information can be sourced! Thank you!
Some people just have a hard time explaining to meat eaters why we are vegan because not everyone is the best at giving speeches!!! :) that’s okay. Sending love!
@@DahRocker Thanks a lot for the timings. Lots of love!
NIALL CONLON instead of attacking the message, he will attack the messenger!!! Hilarious!
I’ve been vegetarian since 2010 and vegan since 2014, I never was able to put into words why I chose to do what I did, but calm, intelligent conversations like this make it so much easier to explain 🙏
Thank you for taking a stand against this injustice. 🙂❤️
Explain to me how it's not ok to kill an animal for food (primal need). But it is OK to kill millions of animals in order to move from place to place (transportation). This entire speech was ludicrous.
@@glp.1337 If you don't understand the difference between doing something by accident and something on purpose, you've already lost.
@@NoInjusticeLastsForever Oh of course! How did I miss the possibility of him putting his clothes on by accident. Maybe he fell into them. And he might have bought them by accident as well. And instead of using any form of transportation on purpose, he might have just teleported to that show. You're right. How lost I was...
@@glp.1337 ?
This is really well constructed and presented. It would be nice to see discussions like this in the schooling system.
OMYGOSH I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY! That’s such a good idea!!!
They are.
Only rich people killing animals and don't eat it because of choice when you have no choice you will eating human meat so stop make lesson to people
@@pandipandahs6940What? Stop killing animals for fun dude, it’s the cheapest diet globally.
@@pandipandahs6940 what
Props to him for not using one single "shock-photo/video", no extreme descriptions of the situations in slaughterhouses or dairy production , only facts and a friendly voice. was all it took to make me honestly consider going vegan.
Yay! U got this :)
You can do it ! If it’s too much of a shock you can start slowly by going vegetarian. Just be patient with yourself if needed. the choice to cut out meat is a blessed one
He probably tuckered himself out after releasing an hour long documentary that was pretty much just that.
@@wisemage0 it has its place. Some people need to be shocked others respond better to this calm approach.
I should add that I myself found the films earthlings deeply affecting.
This ted talk right here has changed my life forever. It cause me to question myself and turned me Vegan in the course of 1-2 days. I wish I’d seen this sooner, I went 16 years of my life unknowingly supporting Animal exploitation, abuse, and unnecessary slaughter. That was 16 years too long! Thank you Ed 🙏
Good for you man. Spread awareness. It feels good too. And don't worry if you know your facts you will win every argument.
Veganism is definitely the way to go! Good job :)
world no1 boyband member. Yeah. I’ve already started to slightly convert some family members by switching them to oat milk and meat alternatives once in a while. But moreover just calmly provoking moral discussions
Ash yes I will definitely never look back
@@lucaso62828 yea. Go slow.people closest to you are the hardest to change.
My biggest regret in life is not going vegan sooner, thanks Ed for influencing my decision to go Vegan!
Funny because my biggest regret in life is going vegetarian at the age of 12.
@@themudpit621 Then you obviously didn’t go vegetarian correctly, or for the right reasons
Same with me. It was so much easier than I thought it would be, and I wish I would have gone vegan sooner!
Yes mine too Bill...thank god for social media really shedding light and people like Ed and Peta
me too
Ed speaks the way every vegan actually wished they sounded like - calm, empathetic and logical. I have no idea how he does it, but I think the clue is in the intro - he can step back into the shoes of the meat lover he used to be, but with hope and forgiveness instead of judgement. Truly an incredible person.
there is a big difference between a stage talk where he is free and doesnt answer anything and strangers telling you again and again the same excuse and ignoring the facts, of course the second one triggers most vegans a bit
My issue isn't being calm. That's the easy part. My issue is saying anything at all.
@@yasinhenfs4540if you’ve seen him interact with people in debate, he carries himself the same way though. He is an exemplary debater.
When I became vegetarian at 11 the meat eaters in my life were aggressively rude, hostile and verbally abusive. People tried to hide meat in my food. I find it odd that meat eaters claim Vegans and Vegetarians are intolerant when I have never pressured or forced anyone to eat anything vegan or vegetarian.
@@tasha3939 Actually it is true and who are you to tell me what my life experiences have been? You don't know me and you've never been a part of my life.
@@tasha3939 How about not being like the meat eaters bleu describes, and bleu not pushing veganism to you if you tell them you don't want to hear it?
@@tasha3939 You don't get to decide that MY life experiences aren't true. I am not shoving anything down your throat and if you have such a huge problem with vegans and veganism then why are you watching a pro-vegan video on CZcams?
Latasha Brown “I’m not hurting anyone.” Well, you are. You’re hurting the animals.
Do you like animals? Do you think it’s wrong to be unnecessarily cruel to them? Why pay to support it, then?
Seems to me like some percentage of humans are just intolerant in general, and both meat-eaters and vegetarians/vegans fall into that category at roughly equal proportions. Just because you've never pressured someone doesn't mean others haven't. Similarly, just because many meat-eaters have pressured you doesn't mean that all or even most are pressuring the vegan/vegetarian group. The most extreme people (in either direction) are often the loudest.
The eloquence that he has
The patience that he has
The perseverance that he has
Ed is admirable
The vegan restaurant that he has,
the money that he invested in selling stuff to vegans,
the rags that he wears to seem more humble.
Ed is great businessman.
@@democratictotalitariansoci1462 isn't his restaurant non-profit??
@Jules wtf😂
I don’t know if he has a restaurant etc. but if he does: so what? Since when is it despicable to run a business, and in this case one that is aligned with his values and beliefs. Nonsense!
@@lunamargherita Where did you read anything despicable in my comment?
You are having quite negative imagination, go eat some sugar, or something.
This is easily one of the best speeches ive ever heard in my life.
I like this man because his has arguments and is actually logical in what he says. However some of his arguments are invalid, because eating meat doesn’t necessary mean that we support making animals suffer or stress. What vegans commonly show are violent images of animal industry that are cruel to animals, but most vegans imply that this is the case for EVERY industry or animal farms. I do not support the violence, the stress or suffering certain industries inflict to animals, however I support killing them if it is painless. Doing it without inflicting any pain or stress is responsible, plus don’t vegans believe in God, paradise or reincarnation?
Either way, it is better for animals to live a short life, then reincarnate in a better place or go to paradise, than living a long and boring life on Earth, like what can a cow do to enjoy life besides eating, sleeping and reproducing? It is proven that doing the same things again and again makes time seems very short, like if you play CoD everyday for one year and only doing that, you would be surprised how fast this year would pass. So it doesn’t matter for the cow to live a year or twenty like that, it would feel the same. Habits make time short.
Plus if everyone turned vegan, then animals would reproduce naturally, given that humans will soon need more and more space, what would happen when animals take too much space for us humans to live?
The solution? Support producing animal products in a responsible way. It doesn’t change the fact that we can eat meat, plus products made in a responsible way are of better quality because stress and suffering really degrade the final products.
And what is wrong with killing animals in the responsible way? Ok they don’t always want to die, but do they also necessarily want to live either? As I wrote earlier, habits makes time short, but if you were, let’s say, eating alone, sleeping, and playing video games alone (or maybe just staring at nature) everyday in your life, sometimes reproducing with a random person, and having your parents, and children doing the same things everyday during your whole life, and not caring about them at all after a little while after being born or giving birth, to the point of not noticing them missing, then would you mind if they were dead, and would you also mind dying tomorrow or in two years, or dying naturally?
What I just described is the whole life of a chicken in a responsible farm. They had the time enjoy everything life could possibly offer to them before dying instantly without pain, and without knowing they would die.
That’s my point of view on this whole debate, but did someone actually read all my comment after reading that I support killing animals painlessly, and properly reflected about that before replying to me and insulting me because I am not vegan?
@@esoxy Hey, you should watch Ed's videos, he already answered all your questions.
@@vnr4164 Actually I was testing if anyone was gonna insult me lol
I absolutely love this beautiful talk. I've been vegan for 22 years. I appreciate how eloquently you discussed the various arguments and excuses people give. Thank you.
i have never seen such a positive comment section of a vegan video before. he covered all the bases with great information and reasoning
Watch on youtube video - "Vegans: The Epitome of Malnourishment"
@@Mrzaqwaz
Watch on youtube video - 'The Game Changers' ; 'What The Health' ; 'The Plant-Based Diet'
@@smoothcriminal5650 I'm eat meat. What a waste of time that would be.
@@Mrzaqwaz I have watched "Vegans: The Epitome of Malnourishment". It is about people who eat a very unbalanced diet, a lot of them with an eating disorder. As with all diets, you have to eat a variety of foods and have a balanced diet. Now go to a hospital and see all the non-vegan people with obesitas, bypasses because their arteries are clogged of all the cholesterol, have diabetes etc. etc.... Shouldn't be to hard, the hospitals are filled with them.
Андрей Гуринович go outside and watch the American obesity and heart disease epidemic.
Ed's knowledge about this complex topic is so huge. His arguments are so well formed. His rhetoric is free from violence. He knows what he says. He stays calm. In my opinion he is a true philosopher! The world should listen to him.
If you think Ed is spectacular, then you'll find some of the actual philosophers whom have written on this topic to be intriguing, much more so than Ed. Look up Tom Regan's speeches, Dan Dambrowski and Michael Huemer (recently did an interview discussing this).
There's a plethora of material in the literature to read, including the guys I mentioned above.
@@TheAster3 Thanx for the recommendations! I will start with Tom Regan then...
Did you just say “His rhetoric is free from violence?”
@@lonelycake4114 Eating locally actually destroys the climate even more cause those animals use up more land than factory animals...
@@lonelycake4114 No, it's called simple logic... How do factory farm animals use up more land than local????
I love this man❤️ as a vegan I learn SO much from him, I learn arguments that doesn’t step on others feet, but still gets the argument through.
If it wasn’t for him I bet so many people would still eat meat. Thanks Ed🌱❤️
The arguments he's giving are so powerful one can't deny
Nope. They are all logical fallacies or half-truhts. Standars vegan diet production causes more sentient animals to die than production of grassfed beef. It is also worse for the soil and environment.
@@marcusgarvey9933 logical fallacies or half-truths ? I highly recommend you to rewatch the video , maybe you missed a lot of points
@@marcusgarvey9933 the meat industry is causing so many suffer to animals , the standard vegan diet production is nothing compared to it !
@@marcusgarvey9933 and finally the meat production is far worst for the environment
@@marcusgarvey9933 so many animals are suffering , so we really have to be honest with ourselves and be aware of the impact of our choices
Anyone else have to crank up the volume to hear this?
Wheat and crops are fertziled by animal products such as bone meal and blood products and fish products therefore there is no such thing as a vegan diet its in possible
@@nevilleoreilly3106 but most people define veganism as limiting your use of animal products to what is practically possible
@@nevilleoreilly3106 we wouldn't have to fertilizer with animal products if we didn't kill them by the billions....what else do you think they'd do with that amount of cow pies? Crazy. I grow most of my food myself without animal products or chemicals. Veganism isn't perfection.
Yes, sound is very very low. I had to stand very near the computer to hear it.
I have to hold it up to my ear it’s so low volume
This is by far the best speech I have ever heard about veganism. Thank you, Ed.
Check out Phill wollens on the matter he has great speeches all though I think Ed is for sure one of the best on this subject.
@@s7r49 Lol there are in principle no opposing arguments that are factual and consistent.. but okay ill check it out
@@s7r49 So i started to check Dr Shawn and im presented with a flat out lie, good start for your opposing arguments lol!
S7R4 Wasn‘t she talking about hydrated fats? Because those are indeed not beneficial at all for our bodies and I do not believe she said that „plant fats“ are killing us
S7R4 Like basically all the good fats come from vegetables, nuts and seeds. I don‘t really understand what you are talking about
Great speech 👍Thank you, Ed🙏 You are so compassionate. It's a pleasure to listen to you. 💚🌱
1 year vegan! Thanks Ed. Now I would like to share this message.
This sums up why vegans do want you to hear WHY they are vegan. It is not about them, it is about the animals. It is about our planet. It is about the future of human kind and it is all about compassion and respect. Thank you Ed for a great talk.
Exactly
Exactly!♥️
Never-mind the destruction of billions of living beings.
Xavier what are you talking about?
@@jaymiddleton1782
Oh, you didn't know that Vegans kill billions of living beings with their lifestyle choices?
GREAT talk! Vegan of 10yrs saying hello.
I am so moved by the amount of people going vegan today. Ten years ago I wouldn't have believed it. Now, almost anywhere I go (restaurant-wise) there's usually something for me besides a terrible makeshift salad. I'm not much of a salad-eater anyway. I like my veggies cooked. Keep spreading the good word. This is how we change the world. Much love from Portland.
My wife and i had an excellent vegan meal today at EDOs
Rudy's Pizza!
I just want to thank you because it must not have been easy 10 years ago. So if we have that many vegan products today, it's because of vegans like you who showed the way ❤️
Don't you think it's strange that we are able to produce enough food to fatten 56 billion land animals every year, yet there are 850 + million people currently living in a state of starvation?
It's kinda obvious really when you consider human food production produces animal food as a waste product. Sugar beet for example contains roughly 16% sugar. This means for 1pound or rafined sugar we produce roughly 4pounds of animal feed (not suiable for human consumption).
@@bdnnijs192 there are deterrent ways of making sugars' am sure even with it's depleated sugar content it would still be a useful fuel for power plants, or just compost it and put it back on the fields for the next crop?
@@dh2032
"just compost it and put it back on the fields for the next crop?"
Are you asking me if this is a better use of inedible plant-waste? This seems like something you'd better fact-check BEFORE making up your mind about the conclusion.
Not all crops do well on compost, not all plants do well on all compost, and turning plantwaste directly into high quality food via animals seems like a pretty efficient way to go. It seems you're tryng to push an oversimplified one size doesn't quite fit all solution to agriculture to support an outcome you reached for reasons completely unrelated to agricultural science.
p.s. I'm not sure what you hope to achieve by suggesting alternative ways of sugar production. Usually the choice for sugar-beet or sugar cane depends on the climate involved.
Thats because the vast majority of farmland is used to produce vegan food.
@@bdnnijs192 composting of sugar-beet or sugar cane, well sugar-beet is a root vegetable (sort if anyone would eat it as vegetable ) if un harvested, would just rot in the ground like organic item does? and sugar cane, is generally, set on fire, as part of it harvesting, (at least that what do in Television AD's say) so some of the plant go's back in the ground as some sort of ash already with out a problems?
Thanks /r/place for giving me something to think about
Haha same
"I'd rather walk alone, than with a crowd going in the wrong direction."
Joey Carbstrong
Did you get vaccinated?
@@mexifry222 yes
@@mexifry222
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I did. And I recommend you do too, if you haven't already. For your own sake and for the sake of those around you, specially older people or with fragile health. The vaccine can prevent the most severe scenarios.
@@paulojrmsantos8 did you forgot your first comm already ? =))
@@mexifry222 well played 😂
I remember the first time one of my boys told me he was vegetarian I laughed in his face due to my upbringing I believed it was a necessity to eat meat and consume dairy..once I studied health books and saw the truth.. Im Vegan now and theirs no way I'll go back
Actually meat so a necessity because it contains vitamin B12 and does not exist in leafy greens or veg products. But it is there in nutritional yeast in small amount and it is artificially added with animal products . My mom forced a vegan diet on me when I was 13 years old and I had to go to the hospital and the doctor told us that I wasn't getting vitamins and iron. And they recommended that I eat meat because it does not exist in leafy greens . A vegan diet is lethal without modern supplement believe it or not.
@@felciajacintha6613 Theres right ways to go Vegan and there isn't..Vegan 1yr nd I'm not deficient in iron b12 or vitamins..B12 I get it from fortified milks cereals nd yes nutritional yeast plus also supplements..which isn't too much for me to do..some reading planning nd a tiny sacrifice for the over a trillion of animals dying each year for Veganism really helps..so no meat is not a necessity just because you failed at it
Exactly they add b12 in cereal and yeast chemically from animal carcases so you aren't vegan since you consume animal products .
@@felciajacintha6613 B12 doesnt originate in animals or plants..the reason animals have it is because there supplemented it or they eat manure nd Veganism isn't perfect
@@soulekgonzalez5159 then we shouldn't call it veganism lmfao
The animals are so lucky to have Ed on their side. Thank you so much for your endless work to help animals, Ed.
What if the animals don't want him on their side?
@@cock1441 Why wouldn't they ?
@@woodsss5521 why wouldn't they?? You don't even know the answer 😂😂
Pathetic
You vegans speak for animals when you don't even know if or not they want us on their side
You guys crack me up
@@cock1441 So 2 options, people that do not kill you and respect you OR people that slaughter you, torture you to eat you. Who do you think the animals will choose ? When they kill animals in slaughterhouses, the animals make horrible noises and try to escape. How do you explain that. Seriously dude..
Went vegan because of this video and me realizing while debating a vegan that there are no valid arguments against it. Your work is so important Ed
check out carnivoremd on youtube. many things that has been said in this video are simply not true and misleading unfortunately. but more importantly, we can't argue with health. Ive done some research on actual health, the actual nutrients we need (without supplements and chemically processed foods that most vegans use daily to keep it up) are in animals, that's how we've evolved over a couple million years. also, plants dont want to be eaten either, and since they cant run away because theyre stuck in the ground, they fight a chemical war instead. they secrete toxic defense chemicals that we consume and cause all kinds of issues in our gut, body and health. I wish it weren't so. Ive even been vegan for a few months, ive tried pretty much all diets in search of what actual health is. but it's a plain fact, that the most nutrient rich and nutrient dense foods are animal foods. if you care about your health, just look up the contents, minerals and vitamins inside any plant, even those so called 'superfoods', and then compare them to any animal based food. then you'll see what's the actual superfood.
@@evanmotions All animal products other than meat weren´t consumed in human development until a few thousand years ago. So it wouldn´t make any sense that they were (or are) neccessary. And eating meat just can´t be ethical in any way. Plants don´t have any central nervous system so no they don´t have a "will" not to be eaten, just evolutionary the ones that produced said substances survived. Also to produce meat even more plants are needed as the animal´s food so even if plants did that, we would do less harm being vegan. There is also no statistical difference when it comes to vitamin deficiencies, so that is also grasped out of thin air. Most vegans research their nutrition more in general which can equalize that e.g. plant protein isn´t metabolized as well. But is that a bad thing? I don´t think so. I am gladly doing a little bit of research if I´m potentially saving several lives and improving my own health :)
@@evanmotions im not sure if the talk went into health and nutrition, but in a vegan diet you get all of the protein and all the others things and sometimes even more than your body is required. so its not really that big a deal. especially vegetables. well your point about plants not wanting to be eaten - the video adresses this
Excep that there are. Firstly Animal suffering is no relevant whatsoever, they are other species. Secondly his argument against hypocresy is untenable because for what justice and rights concerns the intention or propability is irrelevant, and as long you know that the some animals are guaranted to be killed they will be charge of murder (if this is denied then Externalities like CO2 aren't punishable). Thirdly without reciprocity there is no rights even trought childs and those that suffer of mental illness cannot reciprocate individually they reciprocate as menbers of the human species. Finally the same that can be said to animals rights can be said to plant rights.
@@margueritedepompadour7031 the inexistence of central nevours system in plants is irrelevant.
Calm, rational, compassionate; this is a tremendously good talk.
Yeah.. others would call him a "militant vegan"
@@dodumichalcevski weeeell, he's not confrontational, not violent and I have seen him evidence tremendous patience, so nope not 'militant' at all. The animal agriculture industry however is confrontational, violent and impatient which makes your comment somewhat ironic. As for what people say, I prefer to base my summative judgmental opinions on what people do. ┬─┬ノ(ಠ_ಠ ノ)
As they may say love animals, but then they support animal agriculture industry, they may say they want to mitigate the effects of anthropogenic climate change, yet they etc. you get where I'm going. Anyway, why are you writing about what 'others' may say, what do you say?
I would like to argue that even arguments presented in an “emotional” or less-calm manner are just as valid as “calm” ones
@@Hannah-zw9ow Hi Hannah, the issue is not with the ideas as logical constructs; the manner of presenting these ideas can influence how they are perceived. For instance, if Ed was shouting everything, gesticulating wildly and making aggressive eye contact, all up in your face, then his body language would be violent and thus his peaceful message would get lost. Do you see what I mean? It's like with any teaching, if nothing is learned then the teaching doesn't work, regardless of how brilliant the content, so this is the problem with presenting arguments in an 'emotional' manner. Presenting 'emotional arguments' is a different thing as emotional reasoning is a cognitive distortion where a person concludes that their emotional reaction proves something is true, regardless of evidence proving otherwise. Your emotions cloud your thoughts, which in turn clouds your reality. Have you not found that when dealing with anything in life, it is best to be calm?
He is not having a dialogue.
Thank you so much to TEDxBathUniversity for inviting me to speak! If anyone is interested in learning more about my work and veganism in general then you can do so either through my CZcams channel or my website :) the Veganuary website is also a great place to start your vegan journey. Thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you for your incredible speech!
You are so well spoken on this issue, I have seen many of your videos, this particular one I have watched several times. Thank you for your efforts!
I have a question, what about lab grown meat? Will you eat that? Since technically it’s pain-free meat
@Christogenea dot Org Oh you know. He just stabbed some kids with a knife. Literally google it. Don't even try to debunk it
Ed is easily among the very best vegan advocates in the world today.
His patience, bravery, intellect, etc. put him above many of the visceral, *"holier than thou"* types that drive people away from veganism.
Definitely agree with you that Ed is really patience and is also willing to have a nonjudgmental conversation with people. I have seen some of his other videos where he is taking to people on the street and actually engages with people on a personal level without judging them. The "holier then thou vegans" are a huge turn off from even considering a vegan diet. Someone like Ed definitely makes me consider cutting down on meat and diary consumption.
@@naturepayne Good for you Jenny.
Me & my wife don't eat meat or dairy, but I can't call myself a vegan as my 10-year-old son does & I buy his food, & I don't feel it's for me to impose upon him what foods he can & can't eat (within reason).
@@naturepayne Curious…but what is holding you back from the change?
@@blackphoenix8932 Know that something will be imposed on someone, if you wont impose a vegan lifestyle on someone under your care, their choices will be imposed on innocent beings.
Which is worse to you, your son having to be vegan, or an exploited and murdered sentient being to satiate his taste?
I live in a third world country and i'm almost a vegan. if i can do it, so can you!
Just wanted to say this, much love !
While I think it's a moral obligation for all of us to be vegan, some people are in a better situation than others to make it actually happen. Great work on being determined enough to make it happen. Keep going!
So happy to hear that, keep rockin !
While you probably can everyone else might not be able to for economic reasons.
@@jamesmejia2955 Cheapest foods on the planet are vegan, thus ruining your claim.
@@jamesmejia2955 I thought like that once, but the thing is when you cut out meat, dairy and all the non-vegan products, you'll be buying vegan products instead. So it's basically around the same price range.
But yes, when a product is rarer then it's higher in price. In third world countries (like mine) vegan products are a bit more pricey. but even still, as i said being vegan / non-vegan is still about the same price range (if not cheaper ! )
What I'm trying to say is no matter where you are, if you have access to shops that sell organic - Vegan - stuff (maybe shops in your capital cities?) then there's no good reason not to be vegan.
It may be harder in third world countries but not impossible. Cheers 🥃
I'm a vegan for over a month now. Thank you for changing my life
Good job! Keep it up ☺️🎉
@@marjoy That is great! How are you now?)
Rock on 🤘
will ask you in 5 years:)))
shame, you will regret it
Damn, this dude actually changed my view on veganism.
I hope for good .... ;-)
@@hermannkastner4036 like grilled chicken
@@AaaaBbbb-iq6cz In German Language we say "DUMMIAN" to you .... :-)
@@hermannkastner4036 why thank you that's cute,
for i believe vegans are narcissists
Absolutely fantastic presentation! I'm blown away. My family has just recently started our vegan lifestyle and we still have a lot to learn and adapt to different cooking, eating, shopping and other lifestyle changes but we're excited and happy to be on this journey together.
It is time for me to move from vegetarian to vegan. Wonderful talk!
That's what I did. And now I'm an animal rights activist too. Funny how life works.
Same here, wish me luck gang
I was raised vegetarian but I've been thinking about moving towards vegan lately.
This is the push I need to start that journey.
@S Anna thank you! And best to you too
Awesome, I’m proud of you :)
If you dont eat locally, you are destroying the climate ☝️
@@lonelycake4114 And what makes you assume I don't?
Laura the Flerb
So no avocado or brussel sprouts?
Beautiful. You did it again... the impact you will make in this world we live in, will be immense. Bless your soul Ed. Thank you as always.
This man has been vegan for a few years only. Let's see in a few more when he too hits the wall. Veganism is not healthy long term
@@eatlikeyourgreatgrandpa1232 , so all major nutrition and dietetics associations in the world are wrong? I can't wait to read your groundbreaking research debunking their statements! You have something more than isolated anecdotes, right?
@@Ekaterina-uu1zn there are no conclusive long term studies. We are performing the experiment now. And the trend is after the 4 or 6 year mark most quit. Veganism has a major dropout rate
@@eatlikeyourgreatgrandpa1232 look up blue zones. They might not all be 100% plant-based but they don't rely on animal products for nutrition, and there are many studies on people from those areas who have been eating this way all their lives.
@@eatlikeyourgreatgrandpa1232 I've been going about 25 years, haven't run into any problems yet.
Before watching this video around two years ago, I thought that vegans were crazy, and as a kid I made countless jokes about vegetarians (hadn’t heard of veganism then) being fussy, gassy and weak.
Now have been vegan for 10 months and honestly can never see myself going back. It’s one of the easiest switches I’ve ever made to dramatically reduce my environmental impact and opened my eyes to animal rights (including human rights too).
If you’re reading this and are unsure about whether to try going vegan, why not? You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Once you try some new recipes or switch/add/cut some ingredients, you realise it’s really not that hard. It’s changed my life in an overwhelmingly positive way :) thank you Ed!
Love this. Only heard of him before, now I am hearing him. Gentle soul.
This is amazing. I'm genuinely annoyed this kind of education wasn't taught in my school years. If children knew the truth and details of the industry, especially considering children love animals, and were asked to try vegan meals from a young age, then so many less people would eat meat, and the world would be healthier.
@Dio Brando I'm not sure why you would bring job loss up. Jobs in the meat industry are a part of a system that causes unnecessary suffering. The fact that these people wouldn't have a job in this specific industry is not an argument for/against the morality of the meat industry. It's an argument to uphold breeding and killing animals because the economic cost to us would be too great. Such a system should not exist.
Lovely point. I’m absolutely with you
I don't know about real veganism or real vegetarianism, I only know a half-vegetarianism and a quasi-veganism (which means almost vegan but not quite, beeganism is an example of this). There's no very good vegetarianism in me and it can't happen because the lies people fed me to stop eating what I eat, and the negativity betwixt eating meat caused me to lie in the middle. :(
@Dio Brando people like farmers wouldnt be out of job. They would just have to switch to plant based farming
@David Mack Not really. You can get almost everything you need from plant based products and rest from supplements. It can be costly in some parts of world, but dont lie please.
i've been eating vegetarian for a year now, but this made me question if that's enough. it's not, you're right, ed. i'm going to try my absolute best to eat vegan whenever i can. thank you
Don't do it. I respect vegetarians because I was one myself ,but I don't understand his argument. This guy says that it's not moral or isn't a choice by animals. But if you think about it then you will realise that in the past people were killed as well and it wasn't a choice and in the wild animals are killed by other animals and it's not a choice either.
@@cardcreep3295 i agree, but the way animals are treated and killed nowadays is really terrible. i'm scared to even think about it, most of the time.
though i also want to say, i think he could've said that vegetarians are at least doing a bit of good and saving a lot of animals from getting treated terribly. i don't like the way he puts this at all, like we're not doing any good...
@@mienke551 I agree about the cruelty.
to help you understand his argument i would say this: think about the strongest bond in the animal kingdom. Mother-child bond is what im talking about. It is disgustingly cruel to take away a baby from a mom, for whom her milk was produced originally, and give it to human children who only need their own mothers milk and to adults who don’t even drink the breastmilk anymore but somehow think it is ok to drink it from an animal which walks on hooves, has four-chamber stomach and eats grass. Don’t you find it inhumane? Cow-moms do cry when their baby is taken away from them. Dont you at least find it weird that we still eat stuff from some other animals’ tits, like milk, cheese, yogurt, etc.
Mienke Veneman I think he knows vegetarians may think they are making an ethical choice but they don’t realize the horrible and short life the cows go through to create the dairy products they are using. Also there are a lot of male chicks and cows that are killed immediately because they don’t produce eggs and milk. The animals are all slaughtered in a few short years when they are not producing the products you like to consume. If you aren’t a vegetarian for ethical reasons you may not care about any of that. There are still a lot of health risks with dairy.
Vegan now for 25 years. It has been a great way of living for me! Super thankful.
The animals thank you. ❤️
Science Reactions - edit 25 months not years . 👍
@@tom4412 I've been vegan since before you were even an urge between your father's legs.
@ShapeShiftingVegan I’m in a physically demanding job. So I feel I need animal protein in my diet.
I tried being vegan, found that I didn’t even have the energy to get up in the morning.
@ShapeShiftingVegan thank you very much for your advice.
But I’m not going to go vegan or even vegetarian. Best wishes to you
This should be shown to everyone at school
you should write a book man. this is golden
Agreed : )
It is indeed gold. Fools gold.
Ming I’m just curious if there’s a opposite book. If there is, I would imagine vegans would laugh at it maybe.
I was very reluctant to go vegan. I'm the last person any of my friends and family would have expected to adopt a vegan lifestyle. I grew-up a gold medalist weight lifter and a rugby player that likes an ale once in a while and I'm far from skinny. And it's precisely people like me that stand to gain the most from becoming vegan. This one change can greatly reduce our risk of developing diabetes and heart disease and the rest of the world benefits too. I've been vegan for three years now. I feel better than ever and there's no chance I'd go back.
Your profile picture determined that was a lie.
You look fairly runty to me, and eating local is far better than being a vegan.
@@blargkliggle1121 local vegan is even better
@@tivadarus were I live we have enough issues with fertilizer runoff without drastically expanding our grain and vegetable production.
Plant based diet is the way to go . Lots of top sports people and body builders are on a plant based diet as i expect you know .
Ed made me open my eyes 3 years ago and it turned my life around. grateful for it every day.
What does your username translate to
@@peeonthepenski4729 Asian food has amazing meat in it
@@Flashyfinancier oh I bet
For me, it was going vegan overnight after watching Seaspiracy. Now every time people bring up arguments against veganism, I immediately redirect them to Ed's videos. Thank you for the effort you put into educating others towards kindness ♥️
Samee! I watched Seaspiracy and I needed to go vegetarian (and then vegan)
Before coming here I watched a video how cows are treated by farm factories and felt so terrible I couldn't watch the rest of the video and only heard the narration cause I was sobbing really hard after seeing a cow being mutilated. But after watching this video and reading people's comments I feel a lot better so thank you everyone. Now my goal in 2020 is to be vegan starting today.
How's it going pal?
Goodjob brainwashing yourselves with lies
Wait did you think Farm animals were raised in 5 star Hotels? They aren't treated badly they are animals. They would have it much Harder in the Wild.
@@asandax6 Oh so you're saying that if they have it tougher in the wild (which they actually don't) that makes it ok to abuse them yourself. Also I knew they were treated badly It's different when you watch the whole process with your own eyes.
@Rishee Sreenivasan you say this like it's everywhere like that.
I've indulged in an overdose of Ed's videos during lock down, I'm now vegan.
Was lactose vegetarian for seven years prior.
Just a natural progression.
Very grateful to this angel for shining a light on me ❣
Well done! ✊🌱
Yay, congratulation! :)
Well done
Well done on your positive choice 😊🌱💚
Same with me but instead of Ed it's meat
Absolutely beautifully spoken and explained! Ed speaks from his heart, and with Truth! Thank you! I AM a vegan since 2004, and it’s the best decision of my life! Blessings and peace to ALL!
I became vegan after watching only 6 minutes of the documentary Dominion. It was too confronting to watch any more. I realised later why it was so hard to watch was due to the guilt of my own conscience. Yesterday, 6 months later I watched the full documentary. I will never go back to supporting the cruel brutal animal food/product industries.
I'm 21 and have been vegan for about 6 years. It is the best decision I've ever made :)
But how!? Arent you protein deficient lol! God we hear that too often! 6 years though that is awesome!
How do you get b12? Other then supplements?
Sure you have everybody Is a life time vegan all of a sudden.
@@milespico7179 right most "vegans" still eat meat but will never admit it cause of the vegan community guilt shaming.
Oh really? I’ve personally found that vegans are some of the most compassionate people, whereas non-vegans can be quite judgmental, hence why there is a certain stigma attached to veganism
Off topic but that jumper looks like the softest thing I've ever seen.
😂💯
I was thinking the same XD
just bought one too in the thrift shop, they are super soft!
Merino wool is ultra soft 👌
@@stockdogsandquads7065 it wouldn't be merino wool- vegans don't wear wool
I was vegeterian 6 years and hearing him talk convinced me to go Vegan
🤝
I remember Ed came to my school, during the end of 2019. That was the time when I became vegan.
As an indian and a hindu i was raised in a vegetarian family, so i have never known the tempations of non-veg, but much respect to those who were not brought up to be vegan but chose to give up non-veg diet by their own will and wisdom. Standing against the norm for the sake of the weak is both extraordinary and brave. Do try the Indian vegan recipes, most of us are vegetarians, so we have good vegan food options here.
But we Indians are one of the largest consumers of dairy. So we dont reallly have anything to boast about, really.
@@smanojvrit's still a lot better than eating meat.
@@mo_7199 comme-ci comme-ça... You advocate for dairy usage... That too is an animal product... Not really a better option if you ask... Go for soy products instead...
@@SubhamChowdhury97 i'm transitioning to vegan now. i'm starting to realize dairy is not much better
@@mo_7199 It’s not if they consume dairy more than non-vegetarian omnivores... And Ed already addressed that in the video. Ever heard of Ghee..? It’s one of the most commonly used cooking fats in indian cooking..
Wow. If I wasn't already vegan, this would convince me. The arguments are very well thought out. Thank you.
@@MisterKzzt it is better that you tell me what you think because for argument sakes i reject your answer because this platform allows meaning to be misunderstood
same lol xD
If you dont eat locally, you are destroying the climate ☝️
Jen Savage This was bad. Quite bad. Morality is subjective in the sense that you can’t say it is immoral for me to eat meat.
Not me
tried vegan for my girlfriend and realized it wasn't hard and now after this video find no reason to stop
Brilliant. I am a vegan..and I will use these arguments to preach my love for animals. Thank you so much Ed. You are everything an animal would want from us.
As soon as I went vegan my family started witnessing all the good things happening to me so from me becoming vegan 19 other family members of mine is now vegetarian or vegan it really does have a huge impact not all of them may have done it for the animals like I did and they're just doing it for the benefits but hey at least no more animals are suffering I'm happy I didn't even force anything onto them I'm not like that because it's different for everyone
I went vegan. In the beginning it was wonderful and I felt great. After a few months I was anemic and tired all the time. I got healthy when I went back to eating meat.
@@fanichita I'm still vegan and feeling great! Thanks for telling us your personal experience. Everything is different for everybody, so being vegan won't work for everyone. I'm glad that you're feeling better ! ☺️
That is so wonderful!!! Thank all that you paved the way for your family and friends!!! What an exciting awesome thing 🍀🌱🍅❤️
Good job 👍
@@fanichita what did your diet consist of as a vegan?
This man gave a Ted Talk in a hoodie and I love it
It’s so true! I’m happy to be a vegan and I’m sorry that it took 50 years to open my eyes. I hope more people look video’s like this and open their eyes!
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check out carnivoremd on youtube. many things that has been said in this video are simply not true and misleading unfortunately. but more importantly, we can't argue with health. Ive done some research on actual health, the actual nutrients we need (without supplements and chemically processed foods that most vegans use daily to keep it up) are in animals, that's how we've evolved over a couple million years. also, plants dont want to be eaten either, and since they cant run away because theyre stuck in the ground, they fight a chemical war instead. they secrete toxic defense chemicals that we consume and cause all kinds of issues in our gut, body and health. I wish it weren't so. Ive even been vegan for a few months, ive tried pretty much all diets in search of what actual health is. but it's a plain fact, that the most nutrient rich and nutrient dense foods are animal foods. if you care about your health, just look up the contents, minerals and vitamins inside any plant, even those so called 'superfoods', and then compare them to any animal based food. then you'll see what's the actual superfood.
Better late than never! Keep going sending only the best vibes!
It’s an interesting point about plant toxins, however, two extra things to think about:
- all food you eat will contain “toxins” and harmful chemicals. It has been show that stressed and poorly raised animals release harmful chemicals too. The meat is worse nutritionally and in taste. Slaughter is extremely stressful for animals.
- plant toxins have been shown to increase your health precisely because they DO put your own cells under stress. There are many papers and articles that demonstrate that mild stress the plant defences put on you makes you stronger.
Eyes opened is the most important thing.Great decision💯👍❤️!
This guy is gem
He literally brought up every excuse, and his explanations are so reasonable. I've been vegetarian for 9 years but this man has me questioning myself now
The majority of the cruelty occurs in the dairy and egg industries. Make the switch!
Ex veggie gone vegan here. You can do it 👏👏👏💜
@Hashtag GetRekt you clearly didn't watch to the end because he addressed that... spoiler alert it's probably the lamest excuse of all
@Hashtag GetRekt no offense, only a questions out of interest .... are you eating raw meat? are you eating cooked meat without salt, pepper or any seasonings?
@Hashtag GetRekt you wrote your argument for eating meat is because it tastes damn good, but there are a very few people who are really into the taste of meat on it's own ...
That audience was way too small. Yay for CZcams
@@ermmm..._i_am_mason we evolved because we ate meat and vegans get sick more
@@ermmm..._i_am_masonAll the vegans I know get sick and are not strong and tbh most are full of anger full no reason....meat lowers stress hormones and without meat we would not have evolved the way we did....u dont care about life its a trend for u i bet u support abortion?
@@raymondflores5176
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@@nostalgia6068 i love joana ceddia!!! hope shes not a dude canada be weird like dat
Raymond Flores personal anecdotes are not a sufficient argument. he said in the video and you can look it up for yourself, meat is known to cause many types of cancers, diabetes, heart disease and stroke while veganism is known to reverse 14 of the 15 leading causes of death in the world. you think vegans are weak? well the only person to qualify for the olympics in weightlifting for america was a vegan in 2016, and he also won a gold medal in weightlifting at that olympics. further, what you said about meat lowering stress hormones is just wrong. that's not supported by any scientific literature, you literally came up with that on the spot because you don't want to admit eating meat is wrong. How can you be against killing an organism that isn't sentient and isn't even visible to the human eye that is inside of another human being acting like a parasite, but you're fine with abusing, mutilating, artificially inseminating, forcibly impregnating live, fully sized sentient animals who feel pain and don't want to die
This is definetly the best speech I've ever heard! Vegetarian but soon to be vegan :)
Even I was born in a vegetarian family and now a happy vegan❤️🙏🏻!
Eat plants to survive - eat meat to thrive
@@natbarron vegan diets are healthier than those with meat
@@Hello-fx4qr 😂
@@natbarron Let me rephrase, vegan diets are usually healthier.
Excellent speech!! More of this
I'm not vegan, but I have yet to hear even a single solid argument against veganism.
Veganism is growing, there may be hope for the planet's survival.
80% leave veganism yeah growing
Miles Pico But they also go back like me.
lol no its not the medical association will speak up about it if it becomes more than a fad and the Government will also when death rates climb due to the vegan diet causing more cancer. its all about the tax money and where it goes.. and if your in hospital too long then it cost normal people money and they dont like it when a specific portion of a generation costs them money.
I feel that taste and the enjoyment I get from eating certain animals is more important than their lives... I don't practice cognitive dissonance regarding eating animals I actually enjoy eating certain animals in principal not just the taste... Its something I've contemplated on many occasions and I'm happy with my actions so far... I'll likely think on it more in the future and who knows what I'll decide upon or feel as I'm not someone who can be classed as one thing or the other... Isms and ists etc don't really apply to me as I change my mind regularly.
I didn't decide that I feel it... It feels right for me and that makes it a moral action for me as morals are subjective... Not all of us agree on what's moral and what's not which is why we have laws in society to punish people who do things most of us seem to consider wrong... Not all those laws are ones I agree with and some are....
Currently most people think its not immoral to eat animals so its not ileagal but majority doesn't make it a universal truth as there's no such thing... Because once again morals are subjective... Some people consider it moral to kill a killer in a death sentance which I don't agree with but these are the kinds of things we have to discuss to figure out... Its good to open the discourse but I wanted to state my own position as its not in agreement and that seems to be the point of such discussions ...
Follow your heart and if it doesn't interfere with my freedoms I can't imagine having a problem with It.
I have cut my meat consumption down for environmental reasons as I wish to promote longevity of our species but just like vegans im far from a perfect human being in any regard...
I did spend two years and eight months living outdoors and trekking 10s of thousands of miles to raise money for 3 environmental charities but I do not consider people who haven't made such sacrifices as being not moral or caring for the environment as a whole... I have never driven a car for environmental reasons but I don't consider all the car drivers to be not moral or not caring for the environment....
I also know a lady who eats certain animals but who has also dedicated much of her life as a volunteer doctor for people in third world countries... Are you OR I less "good" than her? Does she care less about the environment than me and do we care less about humans than her? Where is this universal set of moral scales so I can check definitively what's right or wrong or must I indeed assess these questions in and of my own human experience?
Have you, I or the doctor lady done more good during are lives than bad?
Humans are a complex bunch of beings to put it mildly and again... None of us are perfect.
If you consider eating animals to not be a good moral decision its probably best you follow your heart and I'll certainly respect it... That doesn't mean if you think killing a human is moral I'd respect that because I don't consider humans and other species an arbitrary distinction and yes that does make me a specieist but I'm very OK with that.
All humans are doing things that equate to a negative effect but most of us are trying to be decent and like I said... We are all far from perfect....
I spoke to a vegan recently who said he would kill a mentally handicapped person instead of 100 deer because he perceived the deer to have a greater quality of life... That's the kind of thinking most people on earth will never allow to become the norm no matter how many clever sounding arguments you use to justify such thinking...
I hope to do more harm than good during my life and if that's something your aiming for too then I wish you luck earthling and I hope you have some fun while on this crazy ride too 🌍
@@AUTUMN-DARK Morals aren't really a part of my stance on environmentalism. My issue with the meat and diary industry is how wasteful, destructive and archaic it is.
570,000 tonnes of fresh meat each year is wasted, so globally that's roughly 12 billion animals that don't even get eaten.
The population of farm animals is unnaturally high due to artificial insemination, so the amount of crops wasted on feeding these farm animals could be spent on feeding the hungry communities around the world and we'd still have more than enough for ourselves.
On top of that, for the average person only 10% of our daily energy comes from meat sources. So not only is meat wasteful, it is horribly inefficient.
Eating meat is not a crime, not even a little bit. The core problem is that all this information about how damaging it is is out there, but people continue to stay in the dark about it. If people stopped ordering from factory farms and instead ordered from local butchers you're contributing to environmentalism because the animals they kill will go straight to you. In factory farms the amount of meat wasted is terrifying and most of it may not even get eaten.
4 yrs as a vegan, 13 before that as a vegetarian...hearing these ridiculous arguments gets really old.
As a vegan, do u eat insects/ are you allowed to? Random question
@@obilim2155 I'd like to reply to you even though you didn't ask me
I personally don't eat insects, I don't like saying that I'm not allowed to, because it's a choice.
I understand that it is way harder to feel compassion for a fly than for a cow, but as they still feel pain and as I consider that there is no need for humans to eat them, I have no reason to do so.
@@gabrielle3970 ooh thank you for answering, I really expected the answer to be yes but I guess each vegan diet is specific to each person.
I asked because I'm vegetarian and wanted to still eat crickets as a vegan (not sure if that means I'm really vegetarian but I dont eat any other meat)
I guess it is up to me anyways
Obilim insects are animals. You can figure it out.
Crickets are fine, there was a study conducted by the IAAS (Institute for Advanced Animal Sciences) that revealed 82% of crickets dont have brains or pain receptors in their aortas and thus can be considered part of the plant family
sometimes I come back to watch this to support the algorithm lol. Thank you Ted Talks for having Ed on. Really wonderful speech with well thought out points. He is an example of empathy and real humanity.
That's why I come back to comment and create engagement, which will lead to more people seeing it and turning more people vegan. ❤️
check out carnivoremd on youtube. many things that has been said in this video are simply not true and misleading unfortunately. but more importantly, we can't argue with health. Ive done some research on actual health, the actual nutrients we need (without supplements and chemically processed foods that most vegans use daily to keep it up) are in animals, that's how we've evolved over a couple million years. also, plants dont want to be eaten either, and since they cant run away because theyre stuck in the ground, they fight a chemical war instead. they secrete toxic defense chemicals that we consume and cause all kinds of issues in our gut, body and health. I wish it weren't so. Ive even been vegan for a few months, ive tried pretty much all diets in search of what actual health is. but it's a plain fact, that the most nutrient rich and nutrient dense foods are animal foods. if you care about your health, just look up the contents, minerals and vitamins inside any plant, even those so called 'superfoods', and then compare them to any animal based food. then you'll see what's the actual superfood.
@@evanmotions really, whatttt?
The only thing a vegan needs as a supplement is B12, which, I don't know if you knew, is currently being injected into cows.
On the other hand, you were not vegan, you followed a diet without food of animal origin, nothing more.
@@evanmotions Animals are sentient and can think; plants are not. The chemical defenses that plants employ are naturally evolved defenses that do not have anything to do with a thoughtful or willful desire to survive by the plant.
I commend this man for being so calm and eloquent. I could never be so calm talking to omnis
Such a great speech! Truly unbelievabe.
I went vegan on January 1st 2020 and it has changed my life so much!
I couldn't be happier! Thank you for this awesome TEDx Talk speech!!!
veganism for life!
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Thanks for doing your part I have major respect for you
Hope you're still vegan, happy 1 year 1 month ish
@@cbjm4568 thank you!!! of course I am still vegan, never going back!
That’s awesome! I went vegan December of 2019 for the love of all life,.. but now starting this year I have taken the Whole Foods Plant Based approach for my own health as well.
You guys considering veganism are awesome, because it means that despites our society norms you're willing to do what's right rather than what most people do. And that is brave, kind, and beautiful. Remember that you're not alone though, and we're here to help.
Don't let these people guilt trip you. Animal products are necessary for health. Search for "ex vegan" on youtube.
@@teljordan9236 The American Dietetics Association and the British Dietetics Association both agree that a well planned vegan diet is sufficient. Ed went over this in the video. CZcams influencers aren't legitimate sources.
Appeal to authority fallacy, but fine, two can play that game. The German Nutrition Society disagrees that a vegan diet is adequate (see below). What makes the ADA and BDA's opinion more valid?
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Vegan Diet - Position of the German Nutrition Society (DGE)
On the basis of current scientific literature, the German Nutrition Society (DGE) has developed a position on the vegan diet. With a pure plant-based diet, *it is difficult or impossible to attain an adequate supply* of some nutrients. The most critical nutrient is vitamin B12. Other potentially critical nutrients in a vegan diet include protein resp. indispensable amino acids, long-chain n-3 fatty acids, other vitamins (riboflavin, vitamin D) and minerals (calcium, iron, iodine, zinc and selenium). *The DGE does not recommend a vegan diet* for pregnant women, lactating women, infants, children or adolescents. Persons who nevertheless wish to follow a vegan diet should permanently take a vitamin B12 supplement, pay attention to an adequate intake of nutrients, especially critical nutrients, and possibly use fortified foods or dietary supplements. They should receive advice from a nutrition counsellor and their supply of critical nutrients should be regularly checked by a physician.
@@teljordan9236 The only nutrients that can't be found in a vegan diet can also not be found in a omnivore diet. B12 comes from bacteria. Meat is often fortified with B12. Vitamin D comes from the sun and omnivores often get vitamin D from fortified foods. It would be smart for everyone to supplement with B12 and vitamin D. I get DHA from algae. Seaweed has iodine, protein from beans, nuts and seeds, iron from greens. A well balanced vegan diet covers all the nutrients you mentioned except for B12 and vitamin D. I don't understand why any professional would say it is an inadequate diet. Maybe they don't trust the public to research properly. I don't take anecdotes too seriously, but no meat 3 years for me and no deficiencies here
Regardless of whether you think the Vegan "diet" is the healthiest or not our planet is dying at an alarming rate which could lead to human extinction in roughly a century. The veganism movement holds the key to a far more sustainable and ethical future 👌
Vegan for 36 years (after being veggie for four), and I've never regretted it. Make sure to supplement with B12 and omega 3 (I use hemp seeds), and a good variety of foods, and it pays dividends in the long run. I'm 61, not overweight, no major health issues, and no maintenance meds.
Wow. What a video. I’m just gonna send this to anybody who ever wants to argue with me about not eating meat from now on. It’s certainly not worth the headache or pointless argument, when Ed does a much better job of explaining than I ever could!
this video is the reason i went vegan a year ago. thank you
Lee Ara me too ugh i wish more people would see and hear him. ❤️
@Russell Lowell ogey
big mistake
You do you. I’m not vegan, (I hunt, sorry if you’re mad) but you’re not bringing affliction to me. I hunt for population control, and you go vegan to prevent extinction. That’s a good balance for me.
Ed also says thank you for making his wallet thicker, 4 k dollars per month without job and none of that money goes to animals
god i remember laughing at my teacher who told us she was vegan. I am vegan now. Pretty sure every vegan ever has experienced something along those lines haha
I definitely have LOL. My mom went vegan two years before me and even tho I was a vegetarian at the time I found her annoying and mocked her! Now I’m vegan and owe her an apology lol. She was right b
Yep, used to roll my eyes so hard at full-on vegans and laugh at all the vegan jokes on tv. Just glad that so many of us are able to change our minds and our opinions 🌱
@Daniel Lilley I mean if i had a chicken and could get eggs from it i would because that doesn’t hurt the planet in any way but even the big egg companies - which are my only option at the moment- use so much grain, energy, and resources to get eggs from which is insanely negative for the planet with emissions that cause climate change
@Daniel Lilley I personally went vegan mostly from fish and meat but also for dairy - because these are the industries that hurt the planet the most. The meat industry produces more greenhouse gases than the entire transportation emissions from every nation combined. I went vegan for not only the reduction of those greenhouse gases but to save the species of fish that are being overfished, and are relied on for biodiversity in the food chain and help keep coral reefs alive. Without the cows
@Daniel Lilley The land used for the grazing of cows could be used for forests to absorb the carbon, but people want hamburgers and the meat industry will contribute to grow until there is no more land left, and cut down the forests for that land. The largest factor of the depletion of the amazon rainforest is for animal agriculture for cattle. And the waste produced is then brought down through runoff and furthers the pollution of our oceans and all water. So really, I don’t mind a few eggs from locally produced sources, but I cant support the production of dairy, meat, eggs (corporately made) and fishing because we have to do SOMETHING to stop the impeding destruction of our Earth.
vegan for 7 years!!! ❤
"Thank you!" - The animals
What a powerful factual speech. Thank you so much for all the work that you do Ed because it really means so much.
One of the best orators of philosophical veganism I have ever heard. Wow!
Oh really what is his philosophy, Starvation? Malnourishment? Denial?
CultureVsMan trolling 😂
@@earvincb sadly I'm not.
CultureVsMan I apologize for assuming. Blessing 🙏🏾
I work at slaughter house I kill them slowly
Bro, Jesus reincarnated to talk about veganism when it's needed the most
Edit: I just wanted to keep it funny with him looking like Jesus, don't take this too serious
Honestly Ed is one of the most Jesus-like people I know probably (x People say all sorts of boorish things to him and he just calmly nods and is like 'Yeah, okay. Yeah. But have you considered ... "
Lmao you mean a white savior?
Maybe he uses the Jesus image as a strategy of persuasion.
@@miamazingness ROFLLL xD oh yeah! it's actually Ed's primary persuasive tool, the rest is just to drive it home 🤣
@@ParadymShiftVegan XD
Vegan for 1 year & will be for whole of my life.For animals & health too.# plantbased
@@matrices3987 I am a vegan & I can judge whether I am better off or worse off. Most probably you are talking about junk vegan meals not wholesome balanced diet.
Is anyone Here from r/Place?
Perfect. A calm, clear, and logical argument to live in a more compassionate, sustainable, and fulfilling way.
Vegan 2.5 years 💚 Nothing tastes better than compassion 🐣
@{} i care
Veganism is death.
Are you sure vegan 🌱 ice cream 🍨 and vegan doughnuts 🍩 are a thing 😎👍
@@magdal3nam.353 eating dead rotting body's is life?
@@lorissupportguides of course. All animals eat animals, and plants also eat animals.
Beautifully spoken. All lives are valuable.
except the ones that eat your plants. they all need to be killed with carcinogenic pesticides.
Recent vegan. Not going back. Great job Ed.