Buying and Fixing a Vintage Gretsch Drum Set - 1970s Gretsch Kit!
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Thats right, I finally found a vintage Gretsch drum set worth buying! I don't see them for sale locally too much and the 2 Round Badges I have bought aren't in the best shape (my progressive jazz kit was spray painted black lol) or aren't complete drum kits.
This one is a Stop Sign Badge version 2, or SSB2, dating it from 1978-1979. 12"x8" 13"x9" 16"x16" 22"x14" in a natural finish.
Work Done to the kit:
The kit was missing the tom arms, floor tom legs, and wingnuts. I took the wingnuts from the Round Badge I have, but the mounts weren't the cleanest so I ran a tap though them to clean out the threads. I also took the floor tom legs from the RB, but have since replaced them with legs from an old Pearl Export. The Pearl legs better match the style of legs Gretsch used in the 70's. The RB legs are straighter and honestly less stable lol. To keep the tom mount from rattling around on the bass drum I cut some scrap tube from a cymbal stand and installed them in the mount to keep everything tight and secure. There was also a decent amount of Silver Sealer on the bearing edge so I went ahead and lightly scraped off the excess. Last thing I did was cut out a decal for the bass drum head. I tuned this kit to that 70s sound!
The snare used at end of the video is a 14"x5" Gracy (MIJ) that I got it in a trade awhile ago. I got it because I had just got the RB that was spray painted, so I needed a Gretsch snare to go with it. Well, Gretsch snares are too expensive for me, so a cheap MIJ snare with Grestch style lugs was close enough lol. Still sounds great, though!
I Finally Bought a Vintage Gretsch Drum Set - 1970s Gretsch Kit - Hudba
Finally cool kid and have a Gretsch 😎
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Plis make videos on entry level drum set pliss 😀
Sick video dude
Also sick set
love your channel. i live here in Africa, and the quality of product we get is pretty terrible. Can you do a tutorial on drum head tuning for shitty quality drum heads? thanks
Pro tip, use a sink plug cover to cover the bass drum mount bracket 👌🏻
Hey David, thanks so much for the shout out! Most of the drummers on our staff have been watching your videos for years and always love seeing what you have on the workbench!
Enjoy your new (old) Gretsch, and let us know if you need some new heads (with or without our logo)!
I definitely need to take a trip to your store!
@@rdavidr we would love to have you!
damn this was unexpected
I love that 70s tuning actually something about it is kind of special
I actually preferred it as well.
Oh hey! Your bass drum patch is off center 😠.
@@polyduckwanaland Who are you even talking to
@@eboone the original commenter’s bass drum patch is off center
That Vintage Gretsch "oomph" bass drum sound is sexy AF.
I just realized that after many years of watching this guy, I'm more looking forward to the playing than the actual sound. Very tasteful, juicy drumming without being a showoff, that I could honestly listen to for hours on end.
He's a bit of a "go-to" drummer. Can't go wrong with the style 👍
rDavidr is a great drummer and he really inspires a lot of other drummers to try something new or tinker with your gear in a way that may have been too scary without seeing how easy it can be. Seems like a legit nice guy too
This kit sounds absolutely insane. Looks beautiful aswell
T H E R E I S N O P L A N E T B !¡!
@@boscodogable O P E N Y O U R E Y E S A N D L I G H T T H E F L U I D
Now i understand why Gretsch uses that motto: "That Gretsch Sound". Because it's really characteristic of them.
This kit sounds fantastic.
Something about Gretsch kicks that I love.
Great vid! This kit sounds and looks incredible. Nothing like an old Gretsch.
Agreed
@@PublicSchoolFinance I have a set of 68 Round Badge. Unfortunately the Snare was destroyed in a bar fight (70's) so that part of it is missing.
It also needs some TLC
I am going to be creating an SF2 file for midi applications using the tuning of the classic Gretsch that I can use for accompaniment files.
There’s not like any gretsch to quite honest…. There’s no other drum brand in the world better to me
Wheaton, MD or Silver Spring, MD is where Chuck Levin's Washington Music Center is. I grew up in Northern Virginia and also spent a few of my young adult years living and working very close to this music store.
I live in Hagerstown Md it’s right next to Frederick. Small world.
Fredericker reporting in 👋
Now I live in Seattle, WA (second time, actually) and only miss Maryland, Virginia, and D.C. every once in a while.
I used to think using pinstripes as resources heads was a mortal sin until I bought a used Ludwig keystone kit from a guy who really knew what he was doing. It really is amazing.
It's funny how most high end kits can sound alike and whatever you want them to, but Gretsches just sound exactly like yours! I think Gretsch Jaspers will always be the one drum that I can point out in a blind fold test. I will NEVER part with mine :)
I bought a round badge, 20, 13, 16 for $25 from a garage sale. It had kitchen shelf contact paper, covering latex house paint. After about 40 hours of sanding and another 20 hours of refinishing, it was a gem. I reluctantly sold it, then was randomly reunited with it at a drum shop about 10 years later.
Finding Nemo..
The tuning in the beginning of the video made for the best sounding Gretsch kit I've heard. Usually all cranked up for some jazzy guy. The tuning you used after the clean up sounds sweet!
Either a super high tuning or super low, phil collins-y, tuning is typically what I associate with Gretsch. After hearing it how it was tuned I knew I had to keep it low. I probably could have brought the toms up a bit more tho
@@rdavidr that Gretsch drum set sounds so good I have a DW drum set
High tuning is what people think of when they think Gretsch, but I once read Tony Williams' drum tech saying that Tony played with his reso heads basically finger tight and that sometimes tension rods would rattle loose during a set. After that, I dropped the tuning on my RB toms and never looked back
Feels like it's been a while since you've done a video where you clean or restore drums! Missed this stuff man
About time, GRETSCH is the only way to roll! That great great sound!!
3:32 That has to be one of the cleanest, most natural ad transitions ever, if not the best.
Dude this is the best sounding kit I've heard to date on your channel.
Just got done cleaning g up a late 60s round badge rock n roll outfit with COB snare...out of the box it just sounds like great studio ready drums
Gretsch kits are the best. One of my dreams to own one.
Chuck Levins is an amazing store! It’s awesome to check out!
thats what everyone is saying. I gotta go now haha
Nice buy! I have one same color and year (70s) that my uncle gave me. It’s a 7 piece beast. 10,12,13,14 toms with a 18in floor tom and 24in kick. The snare is a brass snare so doesn’t match the color but sounds great. Tasty playing!
You may not agree but I think they still sounded good with the old heads on them . That's how great those old Jasper shells sound to me. But of course after cleaning them up and putting on new heads the sound is exponentially better. Not sure if you know this but the old Gretsch shells had a reputation for uneven bearing edges. Not sure if that adds to the sound in an accidentally cool way or not but a lot of drum smiths will sort that out.
My stop sign badge Gretsch kit is my best recording kit and that's going up against several other high end kits. I took them off the shelf last week after being up there for over decade. They still have 20 year old heads on them but they sounded incredible on the demos we did. I think they sound better then they did when they were brand new in 1984. I think there's something about old, aged wood that makes good shells sound sweeter and more refined. But maybe I should put new heads on them anyway. 😹
David, what a cool story about having found the person who sold the kit origiannly. That kit sounds amazing! Great video, thank you for sharing.
I purchased my first Gretsch snare drum a few years back and it is hands down the best snare I’ve ever owned
sweet!
FYI great video, Chuck Levin's was the go to store for touring musicians when they needed something quickly for a show in the DC area. I have shopped there over 20 plus years. Bought my first John Bonham Vistalite kit from Chuck's in 1973.
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A great era for Gretsch! I’ve got a 1979 kit that is one of my favs!! Enjoy!!
I love Gretsch kits! The renown series is excellent for the cost. One of the best parts about these older Gretsch kits are the die-cast hoops.
You know craft. Did a nice job cleaning it up, sounds great!!!!
You are going to love those! A nice addition indeed! I hear so many stories about vintage Gretsch drums being a secret weapon in the studio for many drummers. Ross Garfield, The Drum Doctor, rents many out. It's a thing that a famous drummer will endorse brand A drums but secretly use a vintage Gretsch round badge to record with. It got Chad Smith in a fight with Pearl drums right before he left to join DW. They had photographed him with a arm load of Grammy awards for an ad. But in the ad they stated he used a recent series of Pearl drums to record the record that won all those awards. He did have those drums in the studio but he actually ended up using an old Gretsch round badge kit and was not too happy Pearl said other wise in the ad that ran in the front of Modern Drummer magazine. He felt like a liar a bit.
@rdavidr Man you truly deserve all the subs... you make it fun and relaxing. After following you for years I would also like to mention that your drumming skills have improved to a level that is REALLY admirable! Respect from a fellow drummer.
rdavidr, I can't believe how you hit the Toms and get that great sought after sound with no overtoning ringing. This sound escapes me and drives me crazy. I'm no Gog player, I'm 70 YO, and play for recreation to MY Music. But my OCD drives me to attain that "nice" Tom sound that evades me so. I have a PDP Concept Maple 6 drum kit. Bought it used at 50% of it's new price in excellent condition[ Kudos to Guitar Center for making good on a new Bass drum front wood Flange (?) which was damaged in shipping ] replaced the batter heads with Evans G2s Coated, leaving the Clear Reso heads that came standard (stamped as Remo). I've watched many Tuning Videos (Jared on Drumeo, Cody on Sounds Like A Drum, Rob Brown (one of the funnier people on the Interweb especially about his approach to Drumming), and more, and I just can't get to That SWEET Spot that I am to get. I am using Evans e-Rings which help, but I am unable to get to that Sound without aids. Thanks to All, appreciate any other tips!! FTR, My Music consists of: Petty, Beatles, Stones, Clapton, Mellencamp, Doobie Bros, Fleetwood Mac, Cars, Talking Heads, Eagles, Springsteen, Etheridge, evenm, Bonnie Raitt and Linda Ronstadt, and more - basic Rock and Roll - no Metal, No Punk.
Best sounding kit you've had on the channel.
My god , the sound of a Gretsch bass drum never gets old
Even Phil Collins when he was using Premier Drums in conjunction with his favored USA Custom kit used the 20 kick off his Gretsch kit in most studio sessions, you can see him using it on the George Martin Beatles tribute sessions on his Premier Soundwave kit! That kick definitely has a kick to it (pun intended)!
I have TWO stop signs. They are truly incredible. I’ve never owned an older round badge but those are great 2. Huge fan.
Good lord those drums sound incredible.
Fun fact: that silver paint inside the drums is galvanized fence paint!
David, that Gretsch sounds amazing! The Tama snare you played with it also was crispy, but I think you have to find a Gretsch snare to accompany that kit. Sweet!
such a beautiful kit, both in sound and looks
Wow...love the sound of this kit.
Crazy to think rdavidr was just a madman drummer making his own equipment, then slowly transitioned into testing weird things, to restoring kits, who knows what'll be next maybe he will have his own drum shop. (That'd be so cool) Love ya rdavidr stay cool mate!
Beautiful! Lucky for me I own the exact same kit. Same Stop Sign era, same sizes, same finish. Best sounding drums I ever owned. I found a matching 10x8 in the same finish but with a square badge. (80s era)
Those black dot heads have a unique sound. They make a drum sound like a marimba.
A rather dull sound for a drum really. I prefer a more lively sound. What I do is mix the types : if coated heads are on top , put clears on the bottoms or vice versa. Or two plys on top and one plys on the bottom. Get a nice character out of the drums by blending the head choices.
Got a 73 Gretsch kit, Black Hawk, bought from a music and fish store in North of Norway. It has gone to many changes. Still sounds great. love it
I really dig the snare sound oh my!
Amazing job on this restoration project 👏
Chuck Levins is a family owned DC institution they are a phenomenal music shop they can find anything.
This one hundred percent. It was like nirvana for us drummers in high school back in the 90s. It became mythical. "you can find Noble and Cooley Marching Snares there!" When we finally got our parents to take us up there, I was absolutely blown away from how much STUFF they stuffed into that store. It was amazing.
Love this kit. Juicy, solid playing as always.
Oh baby. Lovely kit.
Sounds BEAUTIFUL
Kit sounds amazing. I picked up a new Gretsch Renown recently. Super excited about it.
kit sounds amazing!
probably the best drum sound i've ever heard, wow!
They sound great
I have my original set of 1979 Gretsch! Those drum sound awesome! Enjoy David!
this kit is just fantastic....no more words...great david..go on:)
That's the exact setup of batter/reso heads I use. I wasn't happy with the pinstripes as batters so I used them to replace my beatup reso heads. They honestly work pretty well
Gretsch is one of my favorite and that kit explains why..
I have a similar gretsch kit same color but it is a drop g error, came with a 10 and 12 concert toms and a 16 floor tom doubleheaded . I converted the 12 to a double headed Tom and now it's 12,16,22 . Different tom mount system. I bought it off of the Guitar Center used website about three years ago
I love it. You have a righteous kit there, Enjoy it
I've been working on restoring an early to mid-70's Ludwig kit and your videos have been super helpful, although it definitely looks like a lot less work when it's condensed into a 10 minute video. I'm almost ready to start playing!
What an amazing kit..!!! You sure know how to fix these, love all your tools and the way you recycle other parts, really smart, quick and simple solutions, kit looks and sounds amazing..!! Loved this video man..!!! Great work..!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Just wanted to say Chuck Levin's is my go to spot for any new stuff I buy. Fantastic store and drum department.
That kit sounds killer. I really need to get a Gretsch kit. Thanks for sharing the video.
Always love the way kick sounds
Awwh heck yeah man! Beautiful kit
Finallyyyyyy 🙌🏻🙌🏻 gretsch kits are 100% my all time favorite
Yes Sir, these do sound amazing !
My first kit when I was in high school (and played for years until I needed $) was a 70s Gretsch kit that came with some sweet Zildjian cymbals. I loved that kit and miss it (and ohh, that ride tone 🤤).
welcome to the Gretsch owners family!!! I have a RB kit ('69?). The good news about your kit is the shells look in very decent shape; no checking of the lacquer, and they seem in-round too!! The hoops look quite nice as well. No rusting and couldn't see any pitting either!!
The bad news is that era, the hardware was a disaster. I know you've figured that out already. The mounts on toms, and bass drums were wretched, and the bass spurs were silly too!! If you hear any buzzing from the drums, the springs inside the lugs are vibrating (common in that series). Not sure why you didn't do (or show) a serious cleaning of the hardware and badges?Make those babies pristine!!! They're totally worth it!! And enjoy that Great Gretsch Sound as there's nothing like it tbh!!
Good stuff David Gretsch makes some of the best equipment in the business!
Nice Video, and of course nice Gretsch! I also recently bought one, a little bit younger than yours, different Sizes (24,14,15,16), but same finish, and I LOVE IT. Have fun with it!
Sounds amazing 🥁
Those toms sound amazing!
I’ve had a gretsch drum kit for 5 years it’s aweshum
Very cool sounding and looking! 😊💖💖💖
Gosh dernit that kit sounds heckn sweet 🧁
That Great Gretsch Sound!
Your best sounding kit!
Very smart move.
Catalina club is arguably the best bang-for-the-buck out there.
If you haven't played a Catalina Club I would suggest doing it immediately, especially an 18in Kick Drum
Wow! I used to do a LOT of business with Chuck Levins. But I LOVE this kit!
Chuck's is my go-to local music store. Still family owned and awesome!
Pro tip, use a sink plug cover to cover the bass drum mount bracket 👌🏻
Gretsch make some of the best drums. I might be a little biased because I’ve played a renowned maple for 15+ years 😂
Such a great video!
Awesome!!! I just got my first round badge set too.
Love those phat tones coming from those pinstripes!
Man, gretsch are dope! Their new broadcaster set trumps most others in sound comparison! Decent ring to them.
Beautiful drums
Oh, that great Gretsch sound!!
the most vintage drums and most modern cereal ... the perfect combo
It's that Great Gretsch Sound!!
Never thought that this combo of drum heads would sound good on the toms. But I love it!
Sounds Fantastic!
I Love Gretsch....!
Wow Your drumming has improved enourmesly..
Comgrats.
Love what you did.
Jp.
Great job on a great kit!
They sound really nice. Matching snare would make it perfect.
Beautiful!!!
Sounds amazing
pipe caps, brilliant!!!!
Amazing job! It sounds insane 🔥
I like it! Had a 1950’s slingerland. Also a sixties Ludwig.
Love Gretsch ❤️