Ahh now I know why so many AGP cards have this strange slotted PCB part in the lower backplate area that can be broken off. These cards can obviously go into these Compaq machines.
i picked it up for 5 euros!!! but without the faceplate, it was a lucky pick, i did not even know what i was buying when i picked it up - I got it with a later compaq computer, so nice, 440bx on the cheap! cheers mate!
i worked for a couple of years in the early 2000s recycling old PCs, taking them apart for usable parts and such. came across a few of these funky sideways slot 1s during that time!
I hated that form factor of video card so much that I sold my newly bought computer that came with the same Ati card and built an custom Athlon XP with an Radeon 9250.
2:11 Friend back in 2004-05 got the similar system P-III 500mhz, but had the Asus TNT2 m64 from previous machine. He was disappointed that TnT2 would not fit. I took grinder and cut the case, removed the bracket from TnT2 and it fitted somehow bended but worked for years. Around 2009-2010 he give me the system i used it as basic MP3 player. Then i sold it but i kept the TnT2 m64 , i have it still in my bin parts, minus the bracket :)
@@66mhzbrain Yeah some Macgyver stuff back in days but it worked. System was rock solid he gained like 50 % more performance compared to previous slot 1 machine he had some weird motherboard with SIS chipset , and tnt 2 m64 never worked like it should.
6.4GB storage that was considered massive when that machine was new and these days we all eat thru TB's of data i ate up 30.16TB of my total disc space i am looking forward to the day when 100TB-500TB HDD's make it to market i want to have 1024TB of storage over 2 HDD's....
@@66mhzbrain honestly, i the longer we advance will would look back in time and even 100PB drives will seem small... no storage size will even be enough in the end
If that mobo has the i440LX, that CPU is not for that machine. The LX chipset only supports 66MHz FSB.. only the 440BX and the 440ZX (excluding the ZX-66) supports officially the 100MHz FSB that all Pentium II after (and including) the 350MHz have... The form factor for that machine is called NLX and the stupid weird AGP i/o shield is appart of it!!! I had a DeskPro 400 that looks alot like that machine, but it came with a 266MHz Pentium II and a Matrox Millennium II AGP... Wish I still got it... I have a few NLX capable cards now (including a VooDoo 3 and a TnT2 Ultra) and a Sloket with a Celeron 533 that I would love to put in it and try it out!
It still nice things like this turn up, belonged to the father of the dude who sold it. He was an accountant, they were moving so would have ended up at the tip otherwise😔
I had a slot 1 (like a Megadrive cartridge) P2 350mhz and later an 866mhz and I upgraded the cooler to a Golden Orb, so I could overclock it. Firstly the CPU socket mounting strength wasn't as strong as the CPU fell out when transporting it and overclocking the FSB also overclocked the AGP, limiting the FSB overclock to a measly 3mhz 🫤
@@66mhzbrain IIRC the multipliers 0.5 increments were too big and the FSB limitation meant the 866 didn't run much over 900mhz. It wasn't until the nForce2 motherboard in 2003 where you had access to the FSB and multiplier, and the FSB and BSB were separated to remove the bottleneck.
Ahh now I know why so many AGP cards have this strange slotted PCB part in the lower backplate area that can be broken off. These cards can obviously go into these Compaq machines.
Yes I have a few with that corner missint, ati and definately not gaming cards😁, at least the ones I have
@@66mhzbrain I have a vague recollection of seeing some TNT2 cards with that notch, but yeah, not something common
Cool thanks, I'll take a look at my tnt2s
Those cards where made to be put in NLX form factor cases.
Interesting, I have an nlx board but it doesnt have an agp slot1.
I owned exactly the same system. Pimped it up with a Celeron 333@450MHz and a Voodoo Banshee back then
Cool, I have a pci banshee that would go well with it 😁
Interesting hardware. The Velocity 100, with 2 TMUs enabled, is a very nice card for a P2 350 mhz system.
Yes, I think its quite a nice match. Never get it out much so nice to put it in something 😁
i picked it up for 5 euros!!! but without the faceplate, it was a lucky pick, i did not even know what i was buying when i picked it up - I got it with a later compaq computer, so nice, 440bx on the cheap! cheers mate!
ah no i picked up a later model of yours, still, very pleased with it! with an ess isa soundcard! gosh, i love retro hardware!
Cool, we all love retro hardware😁
Nice find! of all the old cpus p2 is my favourite I think. Was the first I proper system I ever got (a dell pII 266)
i worked for a couple of years in the early 2000s recycling old PCs, taking them apart for usable parts and such. came across a few of these funky sideways slot 1s during that time!
Cool, i guess for low profile ones at tge time of cardridges, they must have done something. Never thought about it.
@@66mhzbrain i never thought about it until i saw one. i instantly thought "oh of course that makes so much sense"
@AxlePineapple it does seem sensible
These models I sold a lot to comoanies in the days. I hope to find a model like this some day and hopefully for such a price.
Cool, they are nice machines! Hope you find one!
I hated that form factor of video card so much that I sold my newly bought computer that came with the same Ati card and built an custom Athlon XP with an Radeon 9250.
Yes they are a pain😬
Compaq Deskpro is among my top favorite looking PCs from that era.
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Friend back in 2004-05 got the similar system P-III 500mhz, but had the Asus TNT2 m64 from previous machine. He was disappointed that TnT2 would not fit.
I took grinder and cut the case, removed the bracket from TnT2 and it fitted somehow bended but worked for years. Around 2009-2010 he give me the system i used it as basic MP3 player.
Then i sold it but i kept the TnT2 m64 , i have it still in my bin parts, minus the bracket :)
Cool, sounds like a creative way to get it working😁
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Yeah some Macgyver stuff back in days but it worked.
System was rock solid he gained like 50 % more performance compared to previous slot 1 machine he had some weird motherboard with SIS chipset , and tnt 2 m64 never worked like it should.
That kind of stuff it more interesting though
6.4GB storage that was considered massive when that machine was new and these days we all eat thru TB's of data i ate up 30.16TB of my total disc space
i am looking forward to the day when 100TB-500TB HDD's make it to market i want to have 1024TB of storage over 2 HDD's....
You need petabytes. Yes its a decent size drive for
98/99.
@@66mhzbrain honestly, i the longer we advance will would look back in time and even 100PB drives will seem small...
no storage size will even be enough in the end
@10percent4DaBigGuy this is probably true
Torx ;)
Compaq used these screws for years, I think I still have one of the "official" tool for them somewhere
Haha, yes! I did know that but it escaped me at the time🤔
I fixed so many of them back in the day.
It's not a 440LX, the LX support only 66Mhz FSB Pentium II, if it's 100 Mhz FSB Pentium II so it is the legendary 440BX :)
Officially, I never even thought, I'm sure it's an lx but sure the jumper markings on the silkscreen were 33/66/100. I'd have to check.
If that mobo has the i440LX, that CPU is not for that machine. The LX chipset only supports 66MHz FSB.. only the 440BX and the 440ZX (excluding the ZX-66) supports officially the 100MHz FSB that all Pentium II after (and including) the 350MHz have...
The form factor for that machine is called NLX and the stupid weird AGP i/o shield is appart of it!!! I had a DeskPro 400 that looks alot like that machine, but it came with a 266MHz Pentium II and a Matrox Millennium II AGP... Wish I still got it... I have a few NLX capable cards now (including a VooDoo 3 and a TnT2 Ultra) and a Sloket with a Celeron 533 that I would love to put in it and try it out!
20 quid very nice.
It still nice things like this turn up, belonged to the father of the dude who sold it. He was an accountant, they were moving so would have ended up at the tip otherwise😔
NLX Form factor, Only NLX Cards with that cutout can fit. iirc there was a voodoo 3 that can be adapted to fit.
Haha, dont hold out much hope of seeing the voodoo 3, the velocity is probabaly a good match.
His voodoo has a breakout tab that seems to be unpopulated...
Yep! @@gaborszucs8935 He has the one that can be modded ;)
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Haha, yea
Such a great deal for such a clean PC to the point you forget to list rest of the specs :)
Which specs?
@@66mhzbrain like memory size, sound type.
But thanks for your work anyway.
@@O.Shawabkeh did say 32+32+64 sdram and the ess audiodrive model with sb/sb pro support, closups of each?
@@66mhzbrain oh, perhaps someone at home was talking to me by then. My apology 😅
At least I remembered that one, but I do always forget to say something or get something wrong😁
Floppy not hard drive, please corect
Really?? That's appalling but you knew what I meant😁
I had a slot 1 (like a Megadrive cartridge) P2 350mhz and later an 866mhz and I upgraded the cooler to a Golden Orb, so I could overclock it. Firstly the CPU socket mounting strength wasn't as strong as the CPU fell out when transporting it and overclocking the FSB also overclocked the AGP, limiting the FSB overclock to a measly 3mhz 🫤
At least this seems solid, think multiplier is the only way t9 overclock these? Might make a good platform for some creative cooling.
@@66mhzbrain IIRC the multipliers 0.5 increments were too big and the FSB limitation meant the 866 didn't run much over 900mhz. It wasn't until the nForce2 motherboard in 2003 where you had access to the FSB and multiplier, and the FSB and BSB were separated to remove the bottleneck.