I know what you mean. It just depends on where they are I guess. They tend to get planted where people want a fast growing hedge, but haven't the correct space to let them grow natural. These ones were now narrowing the driveway and causing concern to the utility company; so had to be cut back.
If my wife reads your comments, I'm for it! Between the pair of us I'm gonna end up spending a fortune. You couldn't run a flail without a cab, so I'd really need a 4038R...for safety reasons...
Thanks for watching. On top we were reducing it, and it'd be great if it never got any taller! Yes, middle won't grow up again, but edges will. Faces were cut back as far as possible, but not past the green. I'm actually over due to cut it again, have seen it (A year on from this video) and its all green and well bulked out again. But yes, cut past the green and its ruined. I just like to live on the edge and get as close as I can to the brown!
How often do you recommend this hedge be trimmed / pruned to maintain the desired height and width? And if you keep to a consistent maintenance schedule, how long do you think it would take to trim each time?
Good job, can you please advise!?; If I want to create a tall hedging like that , should I trim laylandii before reaches the final height? or should I wait couple of more years to reach the desired heigh before the first trim?
Sorry for the delay. I tend trim most hedges several times when they are young, to encourage the bottom to bulk out and avoid having gaps at the base. I would keep them low for a few years. Just make sure you're careful with your cuts and don't cut any thicker branches into the brown leaf growth. Thanks for watching
I get that they block an eyesore in a few years but they're way more trouble than they're worth. In the end they cost multiples of what it cost to plant a line of them.
I think most folks would agree with you. The customer has a plan for them though, and at some stage I think they're to come out. Just have to wait a wee while yet! Thanks for watching
Nice looking finish. Half a days work putting alloy tower up. I've got a conifer job to go & quote, cherry picker man wants £90.00 for 2 hr which should be long enough to do reduction . Rest of Hendon tripod ladders. Stihl Km135R no noise 2 stoke engine. Nice vid. where about's in Ireland are you.
Hi Adrian. I'm up in the North, County Down. Are you Ireland as well? You're right about the tower; I almost never use it for that reason. Its just too slow to put up, and slow to move/re-level. My tripod ladders are 8ft, which wouldn't have looked at it. Cherry picker is a great job all the same, at least you'll be able to get in right at it and not bust yourself. Do you ever find hedge jobs you end up pricing as a balance between cost for the customer and how much you're willing to wreck yourself?? How do you find the 135R for run time?
@@moweroutdoors Hi Regarding the KM135r approx. 3 1/2 hr with ap300s battery not as much with chainsaw attachment got a Hla86 hedge cutter & just bought a ap100 battery, sick of interchanging battery around & because it's a kilo lighter in both machines obviously not as much run time. I've got the big 500 battery charger approx. from empty 45 mins & switches off. I find it a brilliant machine it has power the only pain is the adjustable speed switch when hedge cutting when you stop & pause just to look what/ where you are doing, its clean & quite still need ear protection but you not annoying anybody whilst working in built up areas. Just took it in for a service just to get the 2nd years warranty on both machines time will tel when I pick it up.
@@adrian_dickinson Thanks for that, interesting to hear! I keep looking at battery and then deciding its not for me. The external AP batteries with the lead to the unit, really put me off. But that 135r of yours makes more sense. Have you tried it strimming? Any thoughts on performance and run time there? I assume you mean that when you stop to look at the hedge, when you go again, you have to adjust the speed back up to where you had it each time - it doesn't hold your setting? That is annoying. Would it be possible to hold the safety on some way, or just too dangerous? 3.5hr hedge cutting isn't bad on one battery! Do you think the AP500S battery would be too heavy? Appreciate the info. Better info there than I'd get from the Stihl dealer, so thanks very much for the reply.
Thanks! I see from your other comment you're new to trimming, so apologies if you know this all already - just trying to help. Some hedges you can push back hard, others you cannot. The hedge in this video you can only cut back within the green of the growth, as the brown behind this will not regrow. You need to identify the hedge before you start. Download the app "Leaf Snap" or similar, and they will help you identify what type of hedge it is, or ask someone for help. We're all still learning, no matter what stage we're at. Once you know what the hedge plant is, then you can look online (RHS.org.uk is a great site for information on plants in the UK) for advice on how to cut it. General rule of thumb, if its a waxy round leaf you can probably cut back hard (Privet, laurel, griselinia). If its soft or fuzzy and not leaf shape (Leylandii, yew), you need to keep in green growth. Hard cut backs are only really required for well overgrown hedges or if you want to take a lot off to push into a particular shape. Hope this helps. If in any doubt, just ask someone before you start. Once you've done a few, you'll be able to know how far you can go on each. Have fun!
Thank u for all your replies!!!!! :) I just bought a house with gorgeous landscaping and I hired someone last year but after doing a few bushes myself, I fell in love with landscaping!!! Soo much fun!!! I’m going to attempt to do it all myself this year. I was planning on getting the Stihl kombi 131r bc I need to use the extension (prob even two extensions at once) with the hedge trimmer and pole saw. I also need to use the bed redefinerto touch up the mulch bed areas. My only concern is that the 94r or the battery one doesn’t have enough power for the extended pole saw and bed redefiner?? I know you use ladders/scaffolds. I am a female and I am scared to be using the heavy equipment up high. That’s why I was planning on using 2 carbon fiber extensions at once. Have u ever done that before?? I saw another CZcamsr suggest that. I also have a hedge that they rounded the end of it and it looks like the end died after they power washed the cement walkway next to it. I think it died from bleach that they used. Is my only choice to cut the dead part completely off??? No chance it will re-heal itself?? At the end of fall last year, it looked like all the leaves turned brown and were falling off. But then in the middle, I saw a few green leaves appearing again. So it makes me hopeful that maybe it’s healing itself? Should I shake off all the brown leaves before spring so that it can maybe grow green ones in a few weeks this spring? I live in New Jersey (next to New York in tbe USA). Thanks sooo much for all ur advice!!!!! :)
Hi, and thanks again for commenting. Its great to meet folks who are interested in the same kind of things. Congratulations on the new house, and brilliant that you've discovered a new hobby. It is definitely one of those jobs that is instantly rewarding. You stand back and get great satisfaction from a day's hard work. I use my 94r with the pole saw, and one extension all the time. I don't think I have actually used the 94r with 2 extensions before, as you say, I always have ladders with me, and I like to get up to the level of the hedge for topping. The 94 has plenty of power, I'd say it would run the hedge trimmer fine with the 2 extensions for sensible trimming. I know a local guy here that has a KMA135R and has definitely used it with 2 carbon extensions to cut hedges, so the battery will do it too if you really find you're swaying that direction. Likewise, I've never actually tried the 94r for the wee tiller/redefiner. I keep the loop handle off the 94, and use it 99% for hedges, so just naturally lift the 131 for strimming, brushing or the tilling jobs. I'd tend to lift the 94 for pole saw work though - as its lighter for holding up for longer periods. One negative of the 2-stroke stuff, at least here, is the ethanol content of the fuel, and if you're not regularly using the machines, the carbs can give trouble (I have never had any problems with Stihl machines, using decent fuel and Stihl HP Ultra). Only mentioning this, as if its equipment you'd be using a lot, then hanging up for months; battery has the advantage of always starting. Having said that, you could just use low/zero ethanol fuel (If its available near you) or Stihl motomix (Pre mixed fuel) if you're not going to be using it monthly. Sorry if you know all that already; but just mentioning as worth thinking about all the options before spending a decent chunk of money. A 131r with two shafts and a hedge trimmer is going to put arms on you! That will be heavy to work with. The Stihl RTS harness might be worth having a look at. Alternatively...what about getting someone in to bring the real tall hedges down a bit lower? Say that its within the height of just one extension? One-off cost, but might be worth doing to save you years of tall reaching. Also, try to get a go on a set of those tripod ladders if you ever see them for sale, I think you might find you're surprisingly more confident on them. I'm not a great one for heights, but with the tripod ladders, I do feel safe. They're not cheap, but you can use them for all sorts of home and garden jobs. Mind are "Henchman" (www.henchman.co.uk/platform-tripod-ladders-3-adjustable-legs/). If this is your forever home - they might be a worthwhile investment. I totally get you and agree...I'd never go up normal home step ladders with hedge trimmers again...just way too risky. I assume the whole hedge turned brown over the winter; would it have an oval shaped leaf about 2 or 3" long, with diagonal veins? I'm guessing it might be a beech hedge? Beech leaves go brown, but tend to hang on over the winter, although some bits can go more bare; particularly if its more exposed to the elements, or recently trimmed at that bit. If they rounded the end shortly before winter, that could be why its lying bare. If its showing green buds and signs of growth, it should be fine. Non-evergreen hedge plants do tend to be fairly hardy and can take a right bit of abuse and bounce back. The brown leaves will drop when they're ready. You can use a leafsnap app to identify the hedge, if its beech, give it a few weeks and hopefully your patience will be rewarded with new green growth all over. If you have lots of smaller shrubs to trim, I do find that short reach trimmers (I use Stihl HS56) make it alot easier to control the blade to curve things. Just thinking if you go for the 130, don't rule out adding a set of lightweight short reach trimmers at some stage, so you have the best of both worlds. Having said that, if you can handle them well, the long reach means you can trim low stuff without stooping over. The Stihl stuff isn't cheap, but it is really good kit. I have that old KM130 for about 10years. The work it has done is unreal, and it still has a much power as the day it was made, and usually starts first pull. So I think you're doing the thing right; take your time, try as much as you can (I'd try getting your dealder to put two extensions and a hedge trimmer head on a 131 and 94 for you, even if not running) and then buy the right thing and you'll never regret it. Please do keep in touch and let me know what you go for and how you get on. If you want me to try my 94 with the pole saw & dual extensions, tiller and do a bit of a comparison thing, happy to do that if you're struggling to decide and it'd help.
i made a BIG mistake i recently moved into a rented house with a Leylandii Hedge . Landlord already got the height cut but i wanted a more of the front. I started cutting away , halfway through my neighbor saw me cutting and told me "you know what you cut away will never grow back again?" after some research and watching your video i can confirm he was right. I ruined the hedge, at least half of it. Is there anything i can do ? If my landlord see this she may sue me ?
Hi there. Sorry, I've been flat out recently and been ignoring youtube. Apologies for the delay. Yes, if you're past the green and into the brown, that bit won't grow again. Is there any green growth nearby? You can cut away any dead wood and try to let any green grow to eventually cover it up. If its totally bare brown sticks, no green at all, you could take it right back to the trunks, then pull some branches with green through from the other side (Assuming its ok) and try to let them grow on the bare face. Aside from that, plant new bits or better yet...remove the lot! Sorry - no quick fixes in this case. I'd give your landlord a call, admit your mistake. Honest mistake by someone trying to do a good turn. Best not to try and cover it up, but admit it and agree what you're going to do.
@@moweroutdoors thanks for your reply, much appreciated. I planted 2 new plants in front Hopefully they will cover the damage I've done before the landlord notices it
Those wolf pole saws are excellent
Good job. Bet you're feeling it after that! Nice of the customer to help with the cleanup too.
Yeah, was sore on the body that one...might put an invoice in for two tubes of deep heat! 🤣
Really satisfying to watch this! Great job!
Thanks very much 😀👍
I love the natural look of uncut leylandii.
I know what you mean. It just depends on where they are I guess. They tend to get planted where people want a fast growing hedge, but haven't the correct space to let them grow natural. These ones were now narrowing the driveway and causing concern to the utility company; so had to be cut back.
After too many years the bottom branches die, never to revive no matter what you do and the tree looks awful.
Another fantastic job 👏
Thanks again Steve.
Beautiful job!
Thank you very much! 😃
American blue grass music very funny watching this video... good job
Its hard to beat a bit of good time bluegrass!
Great cut for a tricky hedge
Thanks Andrew!
Nice, neat job
Thanks very much Carol 😃
Great job
Thanks again 👍👍
Great work man ul need to get a hedge cutters for them deeres
If my wife reads your comments, I'm for it! Between the pair of us I'm gonna end up spending a fortune. You couldn't run a flail without a cab, so I'd really need a 4038R...for safety reasons...
Line is very good
Thanks very much. 👍😀
will that cause a lot of die back since you are cutting past the green foliage?
Thanks for watching. On top we were reducing it, and it'd be great if it never got any taller! Yes, middle won't grow up again, but edges will. Faces were cut back as far as possible, but not past the green. I'm actually over due to cut it again, have seen it (A year on from this video) and its all green and well bulked out again. But yes, cut past the green and its ruined. I just like to live on the edge and get as close as I can to the brown!
How would this hedge be started? Trees planted 50cm apart and 1m tall? Or which would be the best way?
How often do you recommend this hedge be trimmed / pruned to maintain the desired height and width? And if you keep to a consistent maintenance schedule, how long do you think it would take to trim each time?
nice job
Thanks very much 👍
Good job, can you please advise!?;
If I want to create a tall hedging like that , should I trim laylandii before reaches the final height? or should I wait couple of more years to reach the desired heigh before the first trim?
Sorry for the delay. I tend trim most hedges several times when they are young, to encourage the bottom to bulk out and avoid having gaps at the base. I would keep them low for a few years. Just make sure you're careful with your cuts and don't cut any thicker branches into the brown leaf growth. Thanks for watching
how long did it take you to cut the entire hedge together with driving, preparing for work and chipping the branches at the end.
9.5hrs work in the hedge, 0.75hr driving. Haven't chipped it yet. Thanks for watching and hope that helps.
I get that they block an eyesore in a few years but they're way more trouble than they're worth. In the end they cost multiples of what it cost to plant a line of them.
I think most folks would agree with you. The customer has a plan for them though, and at some stage I think they're to come out. Just have to wait a wee while yet! Thanks for watching
There are hedges and then ... there are hedges.
😂🤣 That made me laugh. Probably would have made a better title for the video!!
Now is not good, better is been before
Thanks for the feedback. Do you prefer the trees to be left natural? Or do you not like the shape I trimmed them?
How much did that job cost and what year was it???
Job was Feb 2023 and cost under £200 in total. Thanks for watching.
What country is that in?
Northern Ireland. Thanks for watching
Nice looking finish. Half a days work putting alloy tower up. I've got a conifer job to go & quote, cherry picker man wants £90.00 for 2 hr which should be long enough to do reduction . Rest of Hendon tripod ladders. Stihl Km135R no noise 2 stoke engine. Nice vid. where about's in Ireland are you.
Hi Adrian. I'm up in the North, County Down. Are you Ireland as well? You're right about the tower; I almost never use it for that reason. Its just too slow to put up, and slow to move/re-level. My tripod ladders are 8ft, which wouldn't have looked at it. Cherry picker is a great job all the same, at least you'll be able to get in right at it and not bust yourself. Do you ever find hedge jobs you end up pricing as a balance between cost for the customer and how much you're willing to wreck yourself??
How do you find the 135R for run time?
@@moweroutdoors Hi Regarding the KM135r approx. 3 1/2 hr with ap300s battery not as much with chainsaw attachment got a Hla86 hedge cutter & just bought a ap100 battery, sick of interchanging battery around & because it's a kilo lighter in both machines obviously not as much run time. I've got the big 500 battery charger approx. from empty 45 mins & switches off. I find it a brilliant machine it has power the only pain is the adjustable speed switch when hedge cutting when you stop & pause just to look what/ where you are doing, its clean & quite still need ear protection but you not annoying anybody whilst working in built up areas. Just took it in for a service just to get the 2nd years warranty on both machines time will tel when I pick it up.
@@adrian_dickinson Thanks for that, interesting to hear! I keep looking at battery and then deciding its not for me. The external AP batteries with the lead to the unit, really put me off. But that 135r of yours makes more sense.
Have you tried it strimming? Any thoughts on performance and run time there?
I assume you mean that when you stop to look at the hedge, when you go again, you have to adjust the speed back up to where you had it each time - it doesn't hold your setting? That is annoying. Would it be possible to hold the safety on some way, or just too dangerous?
3.5hr hedge cutting isn't bad on one battery! Do you think the AP500S battery would be too heavy?
Appreciate the info. Better info there than I'd get from the Stihl dealer, so thanks very much for the reply.
Very nice!!!!
How much of a hedge can u trim off before it dies?? Can u really trim off as much as u want?? Thanks!!!
Thanks! I see from your other comment you're new to trimming, so apologies if you know this all already - just trying to help.
Some hedges you can push back hard, others you cannot. The hedge in this video you can only cut back within the green of the growth, as the brown behind this will not regrow. You need to identify the hedge before you start. Download the app "Leaf Snap" or similar, and they will help you identify what type of hedge it is, or ask someone for help. We're all still learning, no matter what stage we're at. Once you know what the hedge plant is, then you can look online (RHS.org.uk is a great site for information on plants in the UK) for advice on how to cut it.
General rule of thumb, if its a waxy round leaf you can probably cut back hard (Privet, laurel, griselinia). If its soft or fuzzy and not leaf shape (Leylandii, yew), you need to keep in green growth.
Hard cut backs are only really required for well overgrown hedges or if you want to take a lot off to push into a particular shape. Hope this helps. If in any doubt, just ask someone before you start. Once you've done a few, you'll be able to know how far you can go on each. Have fun!
Thank u for all your replies!!!!! :)
I just bought a house with gorgeous landscaping and I hired someone last year but after doing a few bushes myself, I fell in love with landscaping!!! Soo much fun!!!
I’m going to attempt to do it all myself this year. I was planning on getting the Stihl kombi 131r bc I need to use the extension (prob even two extensions at once) with the hedge trimmer and pole saw. I also need to use the bed redefinerto touch up the mulch bed areas. My only concern is that the 94r or the battery one doesn’t have enough power for the extended pole saw and bed redefiner??
I know you use ladders/scaffolds. I am a female and I am scared to be using the heavy equipment up high. That’s why I was planning on using 2 carbon fiber extensions at once. Have u ever done that before?? I saw another CZcamsr suggest that.
I also have a hedge that they rounded the end of it and it looks like the end died after they power washed the cement walkway next to it. I think it died from bleach that they used. Is my only choice to cut the dead part completely off??? No chance it will re-heal itself?? At the end of fall last year, it looked like all the leaves turned brown and were falling off. But then in the middle, I saw a few green leaves appearing again. So it makes me hopeful that maybe it’s healing itself? Should I shake off all the brown leaves before spring so that it can maybe grow green ones in a few weeks this spring? I live in New Jersey (next to New York in tbe USA). Thanks sooo much for all ur advice!!!!! :)
Hi, and thanks again for commenting. Its great to meet folks who are interested in the same kind of things. Congratulations on the new house, and brilliant that you've discovered a new hobby. It is definitely one of those jobs that is instantly rewarding. You stand back and get great satisfaction from a day's hard work.
I use my 94r with the pole saw, and one extension all the time. I don't think I have actually used the 94r with 2 extensions before, as you say, I always have ladders with me, and I like to get up to the level of the hedge for topping. The 94 has plenty of power, I'd say it would run the hedge trimmer fine with the 2 extensions for sensible trimming. I know a local guy here that has a KMA135R and has definitely used it with 2 carbon extensions to cut hedges, so the battery will do it too if you really find you're swaying that direction. Likewise, I've never actually tried the 94r for the wee tiller/redefiner. I keep the loop handle off the 94, and use it 99% for hedges, so just naturally lift the 131 for strimming, brushing or the tilling jobs. I'd tend to lift the 94 for pole saw work though - as its lighter for holding up for longer periods.
One negative of the 2-stroke stuff, at least here, is the ethanol content of the fuel, and if you're not regularly using the machines, the carbs can give trouble (I have never had any problems with Stihl machines, using decent fuel and Stihl HP Ultra). Only mentioning this, as if its equipment you'd be using a lot, then hanging up for months; battery has the advantage of always starting. Having said that, you could just use low/zero ethanol fuel (If its available near you) or Stihl motomix (Pre mixed fuel) if you're not going to be using it monthly. Sorry if you know all that already; but just mentioning as worth thinking about all the options before spending a decent chunk of money.
A 131r with two shafts and a hedge trimmer is going to put arms on you! That will be heavy to work with. The Stihl RTS harness might be worth having a look at. Alternatively...what about getting someone in to bring the real tall hedges down a bit lower? Say that its within the height of just one extension? One-off cost, but might be worth doing to save you years of tall reaching. Also, try to get a go on a set of those tripod ladders if you ever see them for sale, I think you might find you're surprisingly more confident on them. I'm not a great one for heights, but with the tripod ladders, I do feel safe. They're not cheap, but you can use them for all sorts of home and garden jobs. Mind are "Henchman" (www.henchman.co.uk/platform-tripod-ladders-3-adjustable-legs/). If this is your forever home - they might be a worthwhile investment. I totally get you and agree...I'd never go up normal home step ladders with hedge trimmers again...just way too risky.
I assume the whole hedge turned brown over the winter; would it have an oval shaped leaf about 2 or 3" long, with diagonal veins? I'm guessing it might be a beech hedge? Beech leaves go brown, but tend to hang on over the winter, although some bits can go more bare; particularly if its more exposed to the elements, or recently trimmed at that bit. If they rounded the end shortly before winter, that could be why its lying bare. If its showing green buds and signs of growth, it should be fine. Non-evergreen hedge plants do tend to be fairly hardy and can take a right bit of abuse and bounce back. The brown leaves will drop when they're ready. You can use a leafsnap app to identify the hedge, if its beech, give it a few weeks and hopefully your patience will be rewarded with new green growth all over.
If you have lots of smaller shrubs to trim, I do find that short reach trimmers (I use Stihl HS56) make it alot easier to control the blade to curve things. Just thinking if you go for the 130, don't rule out adding a set of lightweight short reach trimmers at some stage, so you have the best of both worlds. Having said that, if you can handle them well, the long reach means you can trim low stuff without stooping over.
The Stihl stuff isn't cheap, but it is really good kit. I have that old KM130 for about 10years. The work it has done is unreal, and it still has a much power as the day it was made, and usually starts first pull. So I think you're doing the thing right; take your time, try as much as you can (I'd try getting your dealder to put two extensions and a hedge trimmer head on a 131 and 94 for you, even if not running) and then buy the right thing and you'll never regret it.
Please do keep in touch and let me know what you go for and how you get on. If you want me to try my 94 with the pole saw & dual extensions, tiller and do a bit of a comparison thing, happy to do that if you're struggling to decide and it'd help.
What a tremendous amount of work. Hope you were paid well for a beautiful job.
@@tenstreet-007 Thanks again 😃 This one was a tough one.
i made a BIG mistake i recently moved into a rented house with a Leylandii Hedge . Landlord already got the height cut but i wanted a more of the front. I started cutting away , halfway through my neighbor saw me cutting and told me "you know what you cut away will never grow back again?" after some research and watching your video i can confirm he was right. I ruined the hedge, at least half of it. Is there anything i can do ? If my landlord see this she may sue me ?
Hi there. Sorry, I've been flat out recently and been ignoring youtube. Apologies for the delay. Yes, if you're past the green and into the brown, that bit won't grow again. Is there any green growth nearby? You can cut away any dead wood and try to let any green grow to eventually cover it up. If its totally bare brown sticks, no green at all, you could take it right back to the trunks, then pull some branches with green through from the other side (Assuming its ok) and try to let them grow on the bare face. Aside from that, plant new bits or better yet...remove the lot!
Sorry - no quick fixes in this case. I'd give your landlord a call, admit your mistake. Honest mistake by someone trying to do a good turn. Best not to try and cover it up, but admit it and agree what you're going to do.
@@moweroutdoors thanks for your reply, much appreciated. I planted 2 new plants in front Hopefully they will cover the damage I've done before the landlord notices it
Best cutting those things at the stump. I hate them.
I'd say you're not alone on that thinking Wendy!
These trees are a curse. They should be banned as intrusive weeds.
I was told that back in the 80s (In N.Ireland), the Planners were requiring people to plant them when building new houses!
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