How Would the World React to a US Civil War?
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- We have discussed the issue of national divorce on the show quite a few times, but one of the things we have never considered is…how does the rest of the world react to one? So today…thanks to questions from our online community, especially those by Chris and Joshua, we are going to ask questions like…if the US were to go to war what would China, Russia, the EU, and our neighbors do? Would they directly intervene, would one side appeal to foreign support? Would
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One of the best lines I’ve heard was from Rick and Morty. “Why would the Chinese bomb the White House when it cost them so much to acquire.” Paraphrasing the line.
Rick is amazingly based sometimes.
I do remember. Love Rick and Morty.
Excellent point.
Hilarious and most likely true!
The Chinese bought it cheap, lock-stock&barrel. I'm always shocked at how many billions a $1m political donation returns, our politicians come dirt cheap!
China has been playing the “long game” for decades. I'm almost 70 and still remember learning about this in elementary school.
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Seeing how they are Opium warring us and our allies I'd say they are doing a mighty fine job.
Fentanyl and massive population subversive.
Yeah I think China is doing quite a good job flipping the playbook on the US and the UK.
China, Russia and such are not the problem. The problems within the USA & westernized nations are inwardly. Some people gain power or authority and refuse to give it up.
When you were in elementary school, they were "playing the long game" extremely poorly. They were starving themselves. They didn't start to reverse their losses until the 80s.
Even now they are tied inextricably to exporting goods to the US. This makes them a wild card, not a long game player.
The long game belongs to Russia and Iran who are not beholden in these matters.
Unfortunately if we don't stand up for ourselves real soon our founders dreams will all be lost forever. Freedom is dead right now.
Freedom was dead then too, don't let people fool you. Unless you were a land owning, white man who was over the age of 25 and in some states a Protestant Christian, you couldn't even vote, let alone enjoy the many liberties we do today. Today, we are enduring complete corruption of every aspect of government and the curtailing of our individual liberties is the tool that corruption uses to maintain control. Back then, refusing freedom was the goal, not just the tool for achieving other goals.
The tree of liberty is a thirsty bitch. Freedom is dying I’ll give you that but it will always remain. Even if it’s just deep in the souls of man given enough time it will always reemerge
Amen it’s time to take a stand
The American dream is already gone. It ended in 1913
@HermitagePrepper sadly, I agree. Traded our freedom for security for to long and lost what this country was ment to be.
I live in Marxist Michigan and the way things are here are pretty ridiculous. We have some of the highest taxes in the country and now the state is considering a "milage tax" on cars to help "fix the roads" supposedly. With what the gas taxes are, that should be good enough to fix the roads. Yet the state actors here just want to suck more money from the people. Things are absolutely ridiculous here. Don't get me wrong, i really love this state. It's beautiful and has lots of great places but the government in this state are just Kleptocratic beings. I really wish I could have someone teach me about campaigning and teach me what all needs to happen so i could run for governor or state congress. In a way I look to you @Nick Freitas for how a person of the state is supposed to be. I think you are a great example of how a public employee is supposed to act and perform.
I lived in Michigan for a few years in the 90s (Oscoda) so I know the wages and housing prices are significantly lower there, but if you think taxes and gas are high, look at where I live (Seattle area) We pay on average almost a dollar more per gallon of regular gas. Depending on what city you're in is what your sales tax is, but we pay an avg of 10+% in sales tax here. We don't have a milage tax, they just add it to our gas prices, or by adding toll booths. You guys still outshine everyone in car insurance, though. I remember being shocked when I moved back to WA State and my car insurance went down!
Youre better off leaving
As far as running for office, I could probably help you find people to teach you that. Don't know whether they'd be near you or not. I ran for state legislature myself in 2022 for district 77.
It was a steep learning curve, but i enjoyed it. I had a lot of people who helped me. They could probably help you, too.
Move. The sooner we self sort, the sooner we can split.
Michigan's governor is the worst
California would immediately be like Yugoslavia
Enslaved by Africans?
Dont har the time to watch this. But my immediate opinion is that the Chinese would sit back and ket us destroy ourselves and then step in and take the leftovers.
You are correct. It’s working well so far. I remember back in the 1970’s everyone joked about how the southern border would never be invaded because of Texans and Americans with guns. I guess it was a joke because the government has crippled Americans citizens by orchestrating an illegal alien invasion. Americans are starving and losing houses all the while the corrupt commie government pays for criminals to have health care housing and universal income. THE UNITED STATES HAS FALLEN.
I expect China to bump up disinformation campaigns and surreptitiously provide aid to losing factions in order to ramp up and sustain infighting. Simultaneously they would engage in public hand wringing and offer assistance to our neighbors. Likely they would take Taiwan and other neighbors while we are distracted.
Russia would intensify their land grabs while Europe criticizes us and provides nominal resistance to Russia. Good chance Europe would turn to China for assistance!
Every economy around the globe would collapse, as would USD.
At current point I think Tehran would consider attacking Israel, but rest of Arabic countries would not. Meanwhile, as their position becomes more precarious and with less concern for American and European views - Israel might feel forced to worry less about civilians and more about their soldiers - with potential for FAR more deaths in Gaza.
If they tried, they would still be fighting pockets of resistance throughout the US. Think Red Dawn.
Turn on 1.5x and watch when you have time. It's worth it.
I press x for doubt on this. China is too far, it would be too costly, and probably not worth the trouble.
For the opening question… We are already seeing the results from a civil war. Ukraine, Israel, China in our borders, Russia in our gulf coast, our students supporting terrorist, Taiwan under threat, internal divisions with trust issues. I could go on, and on.
You did a great post the other day about the Roman Empire imploding in the same way that America is imploding now. Both of which are Republics. Mexico is creating a canal that is just perfect for a foreign invasion. While we as a people are bickering over social issues the adversaries of America are laying the groundwork for invasion of our country. This is where we are at right now. This has been ushered in by the Democratic Socialist Progressive Liberal Party of the Globalist.
Good response. I agree sadly.
Not only your adversaries but your own gov is allowing it
Nailed it.
Can we get back to the original question.?
We are already engaged in a civil war. What I’ve commented is the actions have other countries have taken on us to date. The rest is our internal civil war that’s hinged on the “Originalism interpretation” of our constitution.
Let's not forget about all the fighting age men illegal immigrants and who are being allowed to arm themselves and vote.
For the issue of people coming across the southern US border, I think folks would not be coming across through Texas anymore. No Fed govt. means Texas would probably be enforcing their own border.
Its a good thought-exercise, but honestly horrifying to know we are now at a point where the thought of a modern US Civil War is not only thinkable, its possible...
If you think otherwise? Imagine for one moment that Trump loses the election in 2024 with accusations of outright fraud and martial law declared?
There has been no resistance other than silly ineffective nonsense.
Nope. Russia is not trying to reclaim territory. Their security concerns were ignored by the West and they are reacting to the ignorance.
i guess
We had analysts talking about how we promised Ukraine would not try to join native because they don't want missiles on their fucking doorstep and we violated that long before they ever went to war. It was well known long before it happened then if we put missiles in Ukraine there would be war
Amen.
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Ah yes the defensive invasion.
I travel for work and i increasingly hear people calling for a civil war. I, as politely as I can, remind them that the most deaths occurred in the first civil war was not from bullets, but from starvation, disease, infection, dehydration etc. The response I usually get is that, well we have the internet, amazon, Walmart and so on. I then politely excuse myself from further conversation.
Ya, most poeple don't have one critical thinking cell in their brain.
I run into the same thing. I try to tell them that a civil war on our turf is the last thing they would want. I try to explain the same thing to them as you have. I let them know that this isn't 1861, if we go too war with ourselves, it is game over for America as we know it.
Ask them if toilet paper became rare because of a bad cold, how many supplies they think will be in their local stores as the country is literally self-destructing.
@@parttime9260 It was game over for America as the antebellum people (north and south) knew it too, it can be argued that the post civil war consensus was the beginnings of the mess we have today. Civil wars are always unbelievably costly, America isn’t unique in that area
Sorry but you're wrong about Hawaii. I was born and raised here.
Hawaii is completely reliant on the US mainland. If shipping broke down it would be chaos.
Also, the hawaiian government is an authoritarian democratic institution. It's possibly the most corrupt state and the governor has the most power of any US governors over their state.
The people however are not woke leftists. They never have been. They have identified as democrats in the past 30 years or so but their values are very classical liberal.
If you place people in hawaii based on their values, most would align with the conservatives. Traditional hawaiian culture is very conservative and it used to be a red state. Most of the older people have always been more conservative but there have been maaaaany corrupt secret socialists in office here since we "became a state".
They keep the people ignorant through the manipulation of the aloha spirit with their generous sounding lies.
The actual people here are normal people just like anywhere else.
Hawaii relies on Federal dollars to keep the lights on (and Democrats are all about quid pro quo), coupled with blue state pension retirees and welfare dependants. It would be stranger if they didn't vote and govern dark blue.
The Hawaiian islands would face starvation within two weeks. The aboriginal people would likely survive in the long run. All others would starve to death.
It would be invaded and made a Chinese state! Even with 2A rights they won’t last long?!
So how did Hawaii survive before the US occupied the country??
@@effu9375 Mostly agriculture and fishing. The Hawaiians had one of the most productive agricultural systems ever and before regulations they produced waaaay more than they needed. It does however require that the land be divided up into pie shaped districts so they could utilize all the resources from the mountain to the ocean.
Lahaina was actually known as the venice of the pacific because it had so many streams but today, after all the regulations and large company takeovers that deverted all their water is a windy dusty dried out husk.
Our state motto is "Ua mau ka`ea ika Aina ika Pono" "The life of the land is perpetuated in rightousness". Oh how right they were. People stopped caring for the land and so it's dying.
Also, the hawaiian royalty was very well educated, even among royalty, and were good at international relations.
"What will Canada do"
-Nick
Me: Canada will be doing the same thing
probably sooner.
@@ADobbin1 I'd say: Probably not.
Canada's economy was screwed over the last Trudeau - similar reasons as the current one: Government interference in the economy, inflationary monetary policies, growth of social programs that we lacked government revenue to fund... By the time Harper took office in the early 2000's, Canada's economy was on growth trajectory, balanced the government budget, slashed the spending, and largely had fixed inflation issues.
Canada can do this again. And odds are, we can largely turn things around within ~5 years.
The US issues are far longer, and deeper. If things collapse tomorrow - the US economic engine is very dependent on foreign manufacturing capability. Canada on the other hand, has a huge resource extraction aspect, that - while time consuming. What this generally means is, Canada has an avenue to re-correct and crawl back, without ever defaulting. The US Economic situation with it's huge trade deficit, dependency on the Petrol-Dollar agreement, and things are going south for that, and has been since ~2000? It's a big part of why the US invaded Iraq, and not just went to blow up the Taliban and walk away.
In another way to put it: The higher you climb, the farther you have to fall - and Canada has a lot of flexible room to fix itself. And whatever the next government will be - probably CPC - has a lot of general will of the populace to do some pretty drastic moves to fix the state of Canada.
@@formes2388 From what I've seen Canada has the issues pretty much that America has just worse
I've heard periferal info that Canada already has active Chinese units organized on their soil-- most likely for the same reason they are present on our soil
The 14th colony will most likely be along for the ride on all sides.
The thing is, it wouldn't so much be a single civil war as it would be a hundred different insurgencies and counterinsurgencies. The fights within the states would in many cases paralyze them, and take them out of the larger fight. The cities would also find themselves choked off from trade, as the urban/rural divide became real. It would be an absolute mess.
The electical grid is entirly connected so maybe the US can resort to going to court instead.
@@waitwhat....2473 if we're assuming things are so bad that Americans are taking up arms, I don't think that will work.
@@waitwhat....2473that is certainly a preferred outcome
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I don't need electricity to survive.
Screw the cities. ☝️✝️🔥
@@waitwhat....2473except Texas and possibly a few other states which aren’t connected and have their own
For some reason, I see "US Civil War" and all I get is Putin and Xi as Ren and Stimpy dancing to Happy Happy Joy Joy.
You dont get it. They teamed up. There people are here allready. Over 30 million people have walked across our border.
Study gorrila warfare asap. We have months.
THANKS, now that is stuck in my head! LOL
I think China and Russia would interfere. Mexico might join in with China and Russia Canada and Europe might try to step in to help settle the conflict, all I can say it would not be a good outcome for the people of this country
Nukes would have a serious damping effect on foreign interference.
@@BigTomInTheBasementThe Chinese probably already have our nukes "ready to be disabled," and we don't even realize it.
They've been on our soil for some time, and they likely haven't been just "sitting around and waiting"
@BigTomInTheBasement but who wants to use nukes nowadays.
It'd be a bigger cost in rebuilding and infrastructure if you use nukes along side evening out the entire land.
Honestly all you would have to do is look at Venezuela because what happened in Venezuela is what would happen to us
Also i think 80% of the military would turn on the government or abandon it.
Why do you think they have been replacing service members with "new Americans"
My hope is in the armed citizens. There are so many trained in the military who have left or retired. Who are young and able. But I know who owns this world. I will trust him.
@@bobSeigar Yes thats how America was formed. Immigration.
@@dragerdet False Equivalency. Failed fallacy. Found the Non-American.
The Military has NEVER been staffed by New Citizens.
When I think about, I'd say 35-40% would turn, 40-50% would stay out of it/abandon, 15-20% would stay with government.
Combat arms guys, though, overwhelmingly dislike the government and probably something like 70-80% would turn with 10-15% staying out. Lot of enlisted are similar, too. Officers are probably more like 30+/30+/30+.
The points raised about global trade can't be overstated. China cannot police the open seas and if we had a true internal conflict then we'd see piracy at a rate like never before.
You talked about logistics and war. The battle for Pea Ridge in Arkansas during the Civil War is a great example of that
I'm inclined to deny my consent for the Federal government, as it currently exists, to preside.
Same. I consider them illegitimate for their massive violations of the US Constitution.
I believe that a return to original federalism is in order. Make the State greater than the Fed.
@@Benjanuva The federal government is about 70% bloat but based on the way property taxes have spiked, states (counties) are giving them a serious run for the money. One thing about states is they don't (hopefully) continually operate in the red. Imagine the huge party you could throw using other people's credit cards.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 I suppose my view is heavily influenced by my own state. Utah is very well suited to federalism and maintaining my values. We are strong financially and socially, so I think we would probably fare well. I can't say the same for other states, however.
The FED is the main thing keeping the US intact. Greedy states must want the benefits at no cost.
Excellent closing, thank you again for the hope....
Love your what ifs. Exploring different ideas from all perspectives is so rarely done. Please keep up the great work
Thank you! We have a good time doing it!
China would choose the side they think will be best for them and support that side.
We already know which side that is.
So the side they aready have Puppet wires in?
Side?
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Yeah. The side that isn't gonna start a nuclear exchange with them over Uighurs and gay marriage in Taipei. Lol
I say if they cancel our debt and blockage Hawaii & California, we let them have Guam and American Samoa in exchange.
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@@waitwhat....2473side- the Democrat communists of course
Love watching your shows!
Good discussion!
Glad I was able to finish watching this after the issue last night. Thanks again for the content.
I did buy the chair that you all are using and I really enjoy it.
Interesting discussion!
I have a Purple Heart. I will not bleed again for this ungrateful nation.
But if you threaten my family, you will lose.
A bridge that was hit by an oil barge in Galveston this week as well.
I'm Canadian. My prediction for Canada in the event of an American civil war is that we would split along similar lines.
Why would we? If anything the government would close the border and stay out of it. We are economically different than the US in massive ways. And the US is the source of at least 50% of our economic and social problems. The most we would do is accept refugees and send humanitarian aid.
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The US is the source of 80% of our prosperity. I think the same divisions exists in Canada as in the US. We have the authoritarians concentrated in Toronto vs. Pro-democrasy concentrated in the west. Toronto, Vancouver, etc. will back the communists in America. Alberta, Saskatchewan etc. will side with the forces of democracy.
@@the_Kurgan Brain drain to the US and "Progressive" Brainrot are imported from the US. It doesn't matter how much we make economically by selling our resources if we just end up dying from the mind-virus and Brain Drain. Not to mention the culture we keep importing killing our own. Throwing away our pride and history. How many know about Wolfe or Sir Isacc Brock? Its also not democracy the Western Provinces are pushing but are just copying the US culture.
@the_Kurgan I think you meant to say that Canadian conservatives (as in classical liberals) would support a representative republic. The term "democracy" has been severely perverted. It is not a good thing if it isn't limited by specific and iron-clad limits (inalienable rights).
A pure democracy is two lions and a gazelle voting on what to have for lunch. It automatically and immediately becomes a dystopian populist nightmare. Socialism always turns to shit as well, but it takes much longer. Your country is a prime example of that (although we are not far behind our northern neighbors...)
@avroaechitect1793 close the border? That would hardly accomplish anything. Mamy Americans would want to leave the US to avoid the Civil War, and even if just 1 percent went to the canada border, that's 3 and a half million people fleeing. The border crossings may be closed, but the people would flood in. There would be no stopping it.
Love the show
I was watching yesterday and suddenly this was unavailable. Glad to see it back
Aussie fan here! Just had to say I LOVE your podcasts! The analysis is great - I have learnt so much from you guys. Keep up the good work.
Over 30mil single men have dropped out. Its coming down to whomever can make it or will make it beneficial for single men to join in.
How would the US know which country hit us with an EMP, in the midst of a civil war, if they used the cargo ship deployment system?
Thanks for fixing the audio Hamilton!
On the west coast it would be way different as most of Oregon and alot of Washington are conservative
People outside of the West Coast do not know how ‘red’ most the states are.
@@CorsairTrainers I agree, this is a good learning tool for them.
@@CorsairTrainers- yep. East of the Cascades these are different states… sparsely populated but heavy red. California as well.. the coast is blue..the rest of the state is deep red
@@PaulStewart-jr3gm even along the coast here in California there are red areas.
@@CorsairTrainers - yes, I’m generalizing (36 years in California, so I understand).
Remember, boys and girls, this type of stuff is EXACTLY what Green Berets train for 😂
It's also exactly the type of stuff which people who have seen war wish to prevent more than anything.
Take your complaints to court instead.
I agree with all of what you both discussed today.
I was worried that CZcams / the Virginian powers that be made nick take this down. Glad to see it and can't wait to listen. If there is a civil war, I hope that good ranchers is still offering their outstanding deals with nicks promo code.
It should be obvious that other powers would rapidly expand their influence perhaps beyond their capabilities. There would be world economic crash.
I also think smaller splitter groups on both extremes will make it even more blurry I think it’s going to be a cluster fuck all around if it was to happen
Yep, but it's _splinter_ groups, and punctuation is free.
You cobered a lot of ground with good documentation.
Thank you! We tried!
A Biden campaign add popped up before this video.
I watched the whole thing and clicked on the link so now they have to pay you. 🤣
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Lets get this straight liberals aren't fighting for a dam thing other than themselves this would be over in 11 minutes.
No, you don't understand the situation at all.
You mean Revolution.
(Urban vs. Rural) vs. Government
We saw monetarily what happens when the US economy goes into reset in oct. 2009. It dominoes accross the world.
Truedope would most certainly call in the UN if the conservatives started getting restless.
Thanks
I find it hard to believe that the “world” would be willing to risk either side loosing control of the nuclear arsenal. I would think a multi national force would come in to secure them.
Yeah, good luck with that.
During the Civil War, the US Navy was tasked with defending the country from European invasion.
Interestingly enough there were elements of the Russian navy alongside us.
@@BabyGirlDontEvenPlaythat’s because of the politician Cassius clay. He was the ambassador to Russia and convince them to deter other countries from supporting the south
There is no "the world" controlling the bunches arsenals, but just a bunch of incompetent psychopaths.
@@BabyGirlDontEvenPlayThe Russians were standing by in case Britain entered the war.
I'm only 20 minutes in, so my view on this discussion may change. I very much enjoy the discussion and respect Nick as much as anyone, but I think all 3 of these folks have somewhat of an immature view of what a civil war would look like. Suggesting that the west coast would become a Democrat enclave is odd to me, as all 3 Pacific states have significant conservative populations. I don't think this would be a state-to-state conflict, but more of an incumbent vs. renegade faction war within and between states. I may be wrong, but it's definitely a good conversation point. Either way, great conversation from these folks!
I agree. If it really came to team red vs team blue, it’s the rural areas vs the cities. A few strategic infrastructure attacks on the cities, and team blue couldn’t be bothered to fight a war when they’re tearing themselves apart in the city due to starvation or lack of water, bridges down, blocking ports, no power… the coastal cities would need immediate outside aid and landlocked cities would be in too much turmoil and offer no resources that team red would need. Many of the “Blue States” would turn red REAL quick because the reality is, team blue is spread thin by vast expanses of red between them. Team Red’s main issue in a conflict is the majority of its support would have moral dilemmas with the collateral damage through necessary action that stand between its idea of restoring the constitution and largely libertarian ideals and actually getting there. Most of the population just doesn’t have the stomach for a drawn out conflict, and our military that has been able to stomach it, has done so under false/highly uninformed pretenses combined with “you will be thrown in a cage if you don’t do this” AND highly compartmentalized knowledge of the the actual ends that can only be reached the tasks that are performed by the people doing the work.
We acknowledge that there is a major urban/rural divide that makes it difficult to determine how fighting might play out...one of teh criteria we tried to use to allow for a robust conversation was the idea of significant geographical self sorting before conflict really gets hot,.
@Nickjfreitas That's a great point. I may have missed that part while I was listening to your discussion. Either way, theory-crafting in your podcast is top notch, and I'm glad to be part of the discourse.
In regards to a foreign power using nukes against us in the event of an internal civil war it is counter intuitive since you can't occupy radioactive land and if their goal is to wait out the civil war and then try to stake a claim it would not be feasible.
Good Point 👍👍
No, nuclear fallout is overstated. Nobody wants to assume/boast about nuclear war being "not so bad" but many of the 50-60s era assumptions like nuclear winters, 100 year half-life radioactivity, poisonous air, etc isn't likely to happen.
People can invade and take portions of land. It's just not logistically favorable for nations that can do so, especially if they get hit back by another power.
Nukes aren't used unless it's last resort.
If you use nukes infrastructures will be damaged as well as uneven ground.
So if too much infrastructure is destroy, people and machinery will cost so much to rebuild and fix the land again
😂China doesn't need to go to war with Australia. It practically owns us now!😢
Well spoken context much appreciated.
Christian's take on US view of the world from a Kaiser Wilhelm view (about 2:03:00) is spot on and important to take into consideration of this topic. Spot on and enlightening.
To Nick and your associates, Nick's final statements are exactly what this country needs to do. BRAVO!!!!!
I think without us intervention there would be some really great conflicts around the world where they sort out their regional conflicts uninterupted. It would fall on the forigen states to resolve their problems as it aught too.
It looks like not quite yet but very soon.
The west coast would be islands of blue in a sea of red
It's almost like they've rounded themselves up for us.
What would that lead too would the reds drive the cities or just pin them in like sheep?
Sorry - all this is interesting discussion but misses a very fundamental point. What will happen to world economies? Who will support the US dollar? Who controls the printing presses? Who pays taxes - and to who do you pay them and with what? Just saying people. Follow the money.
Would be an absolute disaster. Scariest thing is how godless this nation is and the lack of morality regardless of which side is being fought for. Just look at the comments on any conservative or liberal outlet.
Would love to see what you thought would be the flash point of a civil war would be and how that war would play out.
Im only in your intro but i think the main military would be put on national guard duty, and it would really be a battle with each states individual national guards
I'm 13 minutes in to video, and y'all are looking at this wrong because most states are not blue, Illinois has something like 110 counties with just the 6 or 7 that comprise Chicago area being blue democrat the rest of the state is red, much like California it's 4 big cities are blue the rural parts are red conservatives. Hawaii Massachusetts and maybe Maryland and Delaware are the only full blue states oh and D.C. in a separate box I would throw Minnesota and Michigan they are Istanilands. That is my 2 cents.
Agree.
Again...we acknowledge urban/rural divide.
I’m from Maryland and us conservatives definitely exist. The counties closer to Baltimore and DC dominate our state politics
1:49:45 i thought he was going to say people too. Hahaha.
She seems like she would use preemtive nuke strikes if she was in charge
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She likes making things go boom
A civil war here would also crash the world economy. Stark markets would crash world wide. It would be bad for everyone, everywhere.
I used to think that the military would be divided in a civil war, not so much anymore.. thank God for the Guard
They would be divided, but most will follow orders.
i think we would join together just like a family, we might fight with each other but don't
mess with the family
Sometimes, especially in family, you have to lay the heart down. When little siblings get uppity they need to remember the pecking order.
You should watch a documentary named "The world without US"
Nick, I love your viewpoints and your opinions. Great question, how would the world react to a U.S. civil
war? But 2+ hours to answer that question? I ain’t got no damn two hours!
Listen to the audio while driving or doing other chores
Where was the Good Ranchers Ad?
It'll be in the next episode!
Can you do this but focusing on the states’ side on how a civil war might go down
That would be a different episode, but definitely an interesting topic.
What would happen if congress called forth the Militia to enforce the laws of the Union before a civil war could break out?
civil war would happen if congress called forth the militia
The Militia would then be under the lawful orders of the president, or governor if called up by state congress.
@@rbaconator And what if said president is the reason to call forth the Militia? And the governors are in collaboration?
@@pamelarose1834 Constitution unclear, please see Declaration of Independence.
Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Thats more interesting than what each other would do
Just as the old saying goes, power abhorres a vacuum.
Maybe relevant or not, but i recently traveled out of the u.s and visited 3 countries. Each one most locals told me tourism was so slow. They were struggling personally as well as everyone one else
A C.W. wouldn't be between anyone except We the People and the federal government.
I'd be curious to hear how Mr. Freitas sees a civil war actually manifesting. Does he see it manifesting as a conventional war like he presents here or as a period of violent civil unrest focused mostly in urban areas closer in appearance to the Irish Troubles of British history?
This is a very interesting subject with some great thoughts put into it. The larger part of America isn't looking at our current level of disagreement with this level of detail and they really should. I'm curious how the American dollar would fair. People who live check to check would be hardest hit. Our banking system which holds people's money would also be an area hotley contested
The thought of a nuclear country going in a civil war mode is not a comforting thought.
Take advantage of it.
India is reselling Russian oil which is how they passed the Japanese.
Love that you brought up coodalidge in high-school we had to write a report on a president and yhats whoni choose for the fact he didn't use the government to interfere with people's lives
They may see.
High side of Japanese casualties from the atomic bombs we dropped was not 500k. It was about 320k on the high side.. the generally accepted number is more around 250k.
I was including radiation sickness, follow on cancer, other 2nd and third order effects...trying to be as fair as possible and make a steel man argument.
@@Nickjfreitas Ahh gotcha. I would concede it might be closer to your number with those factors in play then. Good on you for trying to make the argument in good faith at least.. I get tired of people trying to make uninformed claims like "we killed millions" when speaking on the bombs we dropped is where I'm coming from I guess. Love your show btw.. we need more like you in government.
i didnt see this on Rumble..
great question though.
A very interesting conversation, indeed.❤️🤍💙
Nam was 60’s and 70’s.
Here’s the current stats: U. S. - China-Germany-Japan -India
My view is this will go all the way down to the county/town/small city level. State lines would be redrawn by counties aligning with others they share commonality with. Think about Virginia: west of Lynchburg is more like WV, NC and TN; Northern California aligns more with eastern Oregon, Western Colorado with Utah, and examples go on. As I see it, the big cities will be cut off to wither, with their only supply chains coming in by water- IF those water ways stay open.
The state lines would be redrawn in ways that acctualy make sense for the current age. For instance ny would be divided. Nyc could be ny and the rest of the state would break up into three other regions
Isnt that what the states have always done too?
Nuclear War: A Scenario
Great book on nuclear war.
I glad to hear India is on someone’s radar. I have been telling people that India is a up and coming powerhouse. And I believe we need to be seeking an alliance with them. But I don’t know a ton about them historically and fully understand them currently geopolitically now. But they have a huge population workforce and not a lot of regulation. And they have been growing economically like crazy. I feel they might be a real wildcard in the near future. And would love the hear a discussion about how they fit in.
Don't forget Taiwan has had a decades to prepare for Chinese invasion and I looked at one analysis and there are really only 2-3 viable invasion points due to the geography and Taiwan has fortified all of them to a massive degree.