Alfred was keeping Bruce on track for best course of action for Batman. Bruce was getting emotional at that time and because of that he tried to prioritize the Talia al Ghul instead of going after Hugo Strange Good job Alfred!
He starts by telling Oracle "you shut this down, I'm going after Talia", but if you watch the scene where Batman confronts Strange, he has to stick a device to Strange's server before she could do it. He was not betrayed, he was hard checked by his team. Oracle wouldn't have been able to get in without that link... or if she could it would have taken much longer, costing too many lives to risk over Talia's one.
@@theotherguy21 atmosphere was way worse in Asylum, everything was closed off and the environment was far less open. Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion but yours is the rare one here
Nah, they didn't betray Batman. Batman betrayed Batman, so Batman wasn't acting like Batman, but because they kept being loyal to Batman, they made Batman act like Batman. You understand?
Alfred perhaps reminded him that the missiles would have attacked Talia and Joker's location as well, and Joker would use Talia and keep her alive as bait to get Batman there.
In Infinity war it seemed possible that they could save Vision and the rest of the universe. The good guys who stayed on Earth didn't know how powerful an army Thanos had at his disposal. Here, things are quite different. Rockets were already flying.
One of the rare moments where Batman is put in a position between his heart and his head. And he chose his heart at first. Great subtle characterization for the Arkhamverse Batman. Rest In Peace Kevin Conroy. 🏳️🌈🦇
Nah man. I remember playing this exact moment for the first time. Climbing out of the building and the city landscape opens up, everything getting destroyed, and then this fall witn oracle and Alfred. I legit felt like Batman. GOATED GAME
Actually, I kinda wanted Batman to save Talia first, or after he met with Ra’s Al Ghul in the tower, he could’ve told Ra’s about what happened with Talia. I would’ve liked to see what would’ve happened if Batman did one of those
Batman: "Alfred, your fired." Alfred: "That's fine. A position just opened in Metropolis City by a man goes by the name Clark Kent. Going to work for him."
@@andrealveshjr Batman ignoring hundreds of people that are in danger to save one assasin he is in love with, doesn't seem like a Batman thing to do in my opinion
@@Strangeminds38 I remember in an animated movie Batman given a chance to travel to the past and save his parent and people warn him that would cause the Batman to not exist causing a lot of criminal not captured and a lot of people killed but he doesnt care
@@Strangeminds38 batman is just a guy under that mask, no matter how many fighting styles he mastered or how he mastered his fears. thats not a character break, thats a man afraid of losing his lover. and alfred gives him the reality check. i think its amazing
It’s not mentioned in the dialogue here. But there’s one important thing. Talia proposed to joker the power of immortality(Lazarus pit) so if he doesn’t get to her in time, it may be impossible to stop him. Since batman doesn’t kill.
Batman isn’t betrayed, Bruce Wayne is reminded of the oath he took to Thomas and Martha, he’s reminded that his philosophy is a thousand lives saved compared to one life which he has an attachment to is not the Batman style, but it’s interesting to see how quickly he was ready to abandon that philosophy for the sake of one person whom he cares for deeply
I suppose it’s a reminder to every player that they should always think what’s the right action to take in the moment compared to what’s the action I wish most to take, morals and ethics should play a big part in the decisions we make
Hot take: batman was right to go after Talia first. all the inmates are rapists, killers, pedos, etc. after saving Talia then he could stop protocol 10 or what’s left of it anyway. Strange was basically the punisher of the game
@@GothamPaladin they were political prisoners trying to shut down strange’s plan and were sent in there for it. Although wrong, they f’d around and found out
This is the furthest thing from a betrayal even though it comes off like one. Alfred understands how Bruce is feeling and even Barbara does but there are greater issues to deal with. Bruce was in an angry emotional state and had briefly forgotten that his City matters more than anything. I've always made comparisons between Bruce Wayne and Kratos from God of War ; both men have tormented pasts , lost family because of not only their own mistakes but the actions of others and both men despite being pure of heart sometimes make decisions based off of pure rage and emotion. It's what makes them human.
Love this game but Batman being begrudgingly convinced to make the selfless decision instead of doing it out of instinct doesn't fit the character. Spider-Man PS4 (and PS1) had this same dilemma play out in a more impactful way.
It’s the woman he loves, this scene was meant to show that Bruce was letting his love of Talia get in the way of being Batman. Oracle even mentioned earlier that He had a history of acting similarly when Talia was involved, so while we didn’t see it ourselves, we do know that this isn’t really out of character for Arkham Batman
Alfred… ITS MY HOUSE & ITS MY CAVE! What’s next your gonna tell me my ex lover wrote a letter that you burned and never decided to tell about until 8 years after the fact. 👀
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Batman is not betrayed. Bruce Wayne is put in his place.
Exactly that wasn't batman speaking that was Bruce
He was betrayed
He was
Bro what just naw
Ate
I like how the or orchestra kicks in when Alfred starts telling Batman what he has to do
The main theme for Arkham City. A masterpiece 👌🏼 love it
@@DatBoiSerg facts bro
Good game my home skillets at rocksteady
The whole game is legendary but this scene with the main theme is god-tier.
@@theguy3129 it’s awesome. It’s the beginning of the end
Alfred was keeping Bruce on track for best course of action for Batman.
Bruce was getting emotional at that time and because of that he tried to prioritize the Talia al Ghul instead of going after Hugo Strange
Good job Alfred!
This is why Alfred is a good father figure for Bruce.
Thalia is not worth saving anyway. She's lowkey a scheming bitch.
Fuck Gotham saving Talia would’ve been the better call
@@lonedemonofdeath666 She's for the streets and been an evil bitch since day one. Catwoman smoking her pack
@@moshymosh well it’s better to be out for yourself than a hero
Sometimes I feel it's worse to get on bad side of Alfred than Batman...
Alfred is a whole other level of chad that even Batman cant compete with
@Needles Kane Girl Alfred was on some batshit steroid lmfao💀
He starts by telling Oracle "you shut this down, I'm going after Talia", but if you watch the scene where Batman confronts Strange, he has to stick a device to Strange's server before she could do it. He was not betrayed, he was hard checked by his team. Oracle wouldn't have been able to get in without that link... or if she could it would have taken much longer, costing too many lives to risk over Talia's one.
Always loved after Alfred says: “you know I’m right” Batman doesn’t even argue and immediatley goes to Finding Strange
I see you chose the drip suit
Indeed it’s so clean
On some arkham wakanda type shit
how do you get the batman beyond outfit?
@@thekamotodragon you gotta have dlc
@@garyyyyyy95 ohh ok thanks.
That’s why, I feel like if Batman was alone for the longest time, big mistakes would be made without his allies.
Arkham City is genuinely one of the best games ever made.
Facts ngl asylum is better it nailed the story and atmosphere
@@theotherguy21 tf, arkham city>>>>
@shanazpervez8968 it's a good game but asylum is better written and had a better atmosphere
@@theotherguy21 atmosphere was way worse in Asylum, everything was closed off and the environment was far less open. Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion but yours is the rare one here
Very true.
Nah, they didn't betray Batman. Batman betrayed Batman, so Batman wasn't acting like Batman, but because they kept being loyal to Batman, they made Batman act like Batman.
You understand?
Yes
Real
Shoulda said in the end" wanna hear me say Batman again? Then Batman OK here you go"
I feel like the title is just clickbait
I’m happily surprised I understood that
Alfred perhaps reminded him that the missiles would have attacked Talia and Joker's location as well, and Joker would use Talia and keep her alive as bait to get Batman there.
I think it’s an important moment for Batman to have the choose the greater good
@@elitescarecrowgaming4713 And less evil :]
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Alfred: "you need to decide if one life is worth sacrificing to save a thousand."
Captain America: "WE DONT TRADE LIVES"
In Infinity war it seemed possible that they could save Vision and the rest of the universe. The good guys who stayed on Earth didn't know how powerful an army Thanos had at his disposal. Here, things are quite different. Rockets were already flying.
That’s Gotham's ass right there..
What an underrated comment. You are AWESOME for this!
One of the most underrated moments in the Arkham saga
Alfred just being there for Bruce and advising him and guiding him to the right path just as a father should do
*Bruce:* Alfred, you’re so fired.
This is not a betrayal. It's about doing what's right.
although letting criminals die isnt wrong either, arkham city has the worst of the worst in it
@@alextronic4503 no, in the game is said that anyone who has ever committed a crime should be locked in arkham city
@@jpbheavy7239 so?... The reason why you had to save arkham was because inocent people were inside too...
Alfred: the only man in the universe who can tell Batman what to do
in other words, he needs to GET TO DA CHOPPA!
One of the rare moments where Batman is put in a position between his heart and his head. And he chose his heart at first. Great subtle characterization for the Arkhamverse Batman. Rest In Peace Kevin Conroy. 🏳️🌈🦇
Nah man. I remember playing this exact moment for the first time. Climbing out of the building and the city landscape opens up, everything getting destroyed, and then this fall witn oracle and Alfred. I legit felt like Batman. GOATED GAME
Alfred's a real father figure. Never wanted Bruce to waste his life on this crusade, but he said "If you're going to do this, we're doing it RIGHT."
Alfred: Thousands will die
Batman: I missed the part where thats my problem.
This is the best Batman Beyond Suit!
this is such a legendary moment in the whole Arkham Series
Actually, I kinda wanted Batman to save Talia first, or after he met with Ra’s Al Ghul in the tower, he could’ve told Ra’s about what happened with Talia. I would’ve liked to see what would’ve happened if Batman did one of those
Great scene
Batman was not betrayed he was reminded what the mission is. In his words ‘All that matters is the mission.’
The moment Batman almost became a simp
They really gave Bruce the whole goddamn bakery with that skin
“Oookay”
Batman: "Alfred, your fired."
Alfred: "That's fine. A position just opened in Metropolis City by a man goes by the name Clark Kent. Going to work for him."
Always felt this part was really out of character
How so?
@@andrealveshjr Batman ignoring hundreds of people that are in danger to save one assasin he is in love with, doesn't seem like a Batman thing to do in my opinion
@@Strangeminds38 I remember in an animated movie Batman given a chance to travel to the past and save his parent and people warn him that would cause the Batman to not exist causing a lot of criminal not captured and a lot of people killed but he doesnt care
@@Strangeminds38 batman is just a guy under that mask, no matter how many fighting styles he mastered or how he mastered his fears. thats not a character break, thats a man afraid of losing his lover. and alfred gives him the reality check. i think its amazing
It’s not mentioned in the dialogue here. But there’s one important thing. Talia proposed to joker the power of immortality(Lazarus pit) so if he doesn’t get to her in time, it may be impossible to stop him. Since batman doesn’t kill.
Batman isn’t betrayed, Bruce Wayne is reminded of the oath he took to Thomas and Martha, he’s reminded that his philosophy is a thousand lives saved compared to one life which he has an attachment to is not the Batman style, but it’s interesting to see how quickly he was ready to abandon that philosophy for the sake of one person whom he cares for deeply
I suppose it’s a reminder to every player that they should always think what’s the right action to take in the moment compared to what’s the action I wish most to take, morals and ethics should play a big part in the decisions we make
Excellent analysis
Hot take: batman was right to go after Talia first. all the inmates are rapists, killers, pedos, etc. after saving Talia then he could stop protocol 10 or what’s left of it anyway. Strange was basically the punisher of the game
There were innocent people in Arkham City too, good people would’ve died if Batman went after Talia first
@@GothamPaladin they were political prisoners trying to shut down strange’s plan and were sent in there for it. Although wrong, they f’d around and found out
Would’ve been cool if we had 2 endings like with catwoman where we go save talia instead or stop Hugo strange
yeah that would be really cool
This is the furthest thing from a betrayal even though it comes off like one. Alfred understands how Bruce is feeling and even Barbara does but there are greater issues to deal with. Bruce was in an angry emotional state and had briefly forgotten that his City matters more than anything. I've always made comparisons between Bruce Wayne and Kratos from God of War ; both men have tormented pasts , lost family because of not only their own mistakes but the actions of others and both men despite being pure of heart sometimes make decisions based off of pure rage and emotion. It's what makes them human.
This is why Batman needs Alfred
YEEEEAAAAHHHH!!! The Batman Beyond suit looked crazy good in this game. 😁
I've never seen gameplay of Arkham City before. Batman is double caked up lmao
Didnt realize that Batman without the cape is Black Panther .....
Well said Alfred.
Batman miss leg day.
Alfred always got sum to say EVERYTIME when batman tells em to do sum, it gets irritating
Bruce was the one doing the betrayal here actually, until Alfred reminded him that he's the goddamn Batman
"Everybody betray me! I'm fed up with this world!"
Bully Pennyworth: Look at little Wayne Jr. Gonna cry?
And the same oracle cried for tim drake and her father when they were abducted by scarecrow 😕
If Batman being reminded that he must do the selfless thing is betrayal then Strange is the hero of this game.
We deserve a Batman beyond game
The true Batman Beyond outfit, not that shitty one from Arkham Knight.
That Lazarus bussy does some stuff I tell ya
This scene always kinda annoyed me. AS IF Batman won't get it done anyway
he will but going after talia will have hundreds die.
he wouldnt if alfred didnt block him.
Best suit ong
Him saying OKAAAY feels weird
Alfred Pennyworth is the true hero.
Wtf the graphics is soo good
wait untill you see arkham knight...
i think this is the return to arkham version
@@thisisntevenmyfinalform2025 i’m pretty sure everyone seen it by now
Is this from Arkham collection?? Seems like batman beyond?
That's not a betrayal. Even Batman could make the wrong decisions. Alfred just made the right choice.
He wanted to save Joker, not Talia
I always found that skin odd since Terry is more lean
Is this modded? If so, with what? The Batman Beyond suit looks way cooler than what I remembered it looking like, has it always looked like this?
Alfred said you need to choose twice… Bruce chose Talia three times lol she got that thang thang
That outfit
0:13 sudden shadow pop-in
sin counter: 001
left side
what's drip? this is Batman beyond suit
Love this game but Batman being begrudgingly convinced to make the selfless decision instead of doing it out of instinct doesn't fit the character. Spider-Man PS4 (and PS1) had this same dilemma play out in a more impactful way.
It’s the woman he loves, this scene was meant to show that Bruce was letting his love of Talia get in the way of being Batman. Oracle even mentioned earlier that He had a history of acting similarly when Talia was involved, so while we didn’t see it ourselves, we do know that this isn’t really out of character for Arkham Batman
@@god_of_none facts dawg facts
Why batman so thick DAMMMN
Alfred… ITS MY HOUSE & ITS MY CAVE! What’s next your gonna tell me my ex lover wrote a letter that you burned and never decided to tell about until 8 years after the fact. 👀
Daym that batass
Oracle And Alfred Motivates Him To Not Let Anyone Die
Why tf would anyone simp that hard for _talia_ of all people in the first place is what im wondering.
"Bruce, this is no time for simping! Get your ass to work!"
Wakansa forever
How is batman betrayed in this video?
Yeah not the best choice of words but basically Alfred “betrayed” him because he told him no 😂
then again, he goes after Talia anyway. Kids these days !
It's too bad my laptop hates this game. Would love to expiernce it. However it's happy with rdr2
“Betray”?
Clearly clickbait cuz you know damn well this isn’t betrayal
That’s not betrayal bruh
why did man want to go after jonkler, is he stupid?
Whats that game
Batman Arkham City
R u serious how old r u
Teletubbies Redux
you're kidding
Dumbass
He is not
Because he is Alfred