hi ali flew birds for many ayear as a young lad ad pigeons for 30 years lost evry thing about 4 year ago thro personal reasons worse time of my life its was like losing a family member the pleasure and happy ness they give was amazing jest come across u videos bring back some good memory fantastic birds tremendous flyers look forward to seeing more of them good
Thank you Leslie I’m really pleased you enjoy the videos , you are exactly the target audience I was hoping for , people who no longer race for whatever reason , I hope to keep them going and thanks for the support. Regards Richy
Thanks for showing your amazing team of pigeons. I have only subscribed to day. I don't fly pigeons anymore do to the lack of members. But I shall be joining you with some more of your brilliant videos in the near future. But one thing I do believe in is best to the best. But not first prize winner's to make champion racer or Breeder. Cheers mate 👍 👌
Thanks Eddie , these videos are for guys exactly like yourself to enjoy the race exactly as it is mate , no gimmicks just two guys hoping and preying 🤣, I’m with you all the way I would rather have a bird with 5X1ST to a bird who wins one big race breeding wise , thanks for watching mate 👍
The depth of quality is in direct response to your results fellas , unfortunately we all have our setbacks but it's the degree of the fancier to overcome them. I'm sure you both have many good yrs ahead of you , you are no dills ... good pigeon men to the extreme ! 👍👍
Enjoying your pigeon videos guys ,thx for the inside filming puts an extra spin on everything although I don't keep pigeons these days I still follow results and yours are the best I've seen I can remember back to the eighties. Massive well done guys you deserve it here's to many more wins 👍👍
Quality set up lads some lovely looking pigeons too. I have just got in to the sport helping out a bloke with his this year and have just set up a loft in my back garden to start up myself next season. Cheers for the videos hope mine trap as good as yours do!! Andy.
Great video,been watching All season , look forward to seeing your coming videos best of luck for the rest of the season , hope all goes to plan with young bird team 🤞
Thanks Robert, it’s been the most frustrating old bird season in a lot of years , but these ybs really look the part so 🤞, thanks for your support mate
the thing is however good the stock are and you have some stunning birds they can not win on there own they need the fancier too, so congratulations on an incredible team
100% , I think this years videos have proven you need both the birds and the fancier , as we can’t make birds faster all we can do is prepare them so they are 100% every time they enter the basket
Brilliant video fingers crossed the ybs go well ,its peregrine mania up here terrible luck so far with mine 5 stiched up this year already, thanks again lads
I can only assume there getting hit on many occasions on route home , but our combine because of the driving hours they now have to adhere to has caused a lot of the problems, it’s to hot in the transporter and we are liberating to late in the day when others are up at 7am we are more like 9.30 so I don’t think this has helped mate
Morning to you both great onest clip again, did you ever get any of these pigeon's back or reported that's a hard one to swallow. Fantastic hen 320, you need to keep hold of her Richy for the future.
Morning David , I’m not 100% sure which video your referring to but the answer either way will be no , with regards the yb race where we lost 34 pigeons it goes down as the worst race in the history of the UNC , the convoyer received 2 phone calls off fanciers 10mins before he liberated begging him not to let them go , it was 239 miles to us from Chelmsford and they were released in black clouds with torrential rain the entire way home , the poor birds had no chance , we had 70 ybs away that day and we got our first bird at 7.30pm and our second in the dark at 9pm so 2 back on the day , to tell you what happened we had a bird reported on a oil rig 70 miles out to sea inline with Norwich , so the birds went out to sea to try and go round the rain , we got 12 back the following day and another 20 over the next few weeks , the national the following week had 3000 birds away so approximately 12000 birds lost in the combine , obviously a few thousand made it back over the coming weeks but the only guys to profit were the big lofts who had a back up team of late breds but guys like us were knocked back a season which is this season hence the dip in form
Hello Richy, my fault i should of said stock & yb loft tour, shouldn't be let go in those conditions that not giving the pigeons a chance, that just chucking them away imo.
Have to keep plodding on mate , this old bird season has been a horrible experience, but I said to my dad it’s very educational as a lot of people ask is it the pigeons or is it the fancier, well I think we’ve proved this year you can’t make pigeons any faster , we prepare them so there 100% every week but if there not good enough u won’t win , il be entirely honest we need to get through this season and get our winning lines back in the team , but a lot will depend on how the yb season goes can we fix this in one season or will it take 2 seasons 👍
Hope you can do it in a season mate good luck hope it comes good for you. Without being cheeky let's know if any birds are going as I'm starting up Reay for next season cheers Tony
Hope you can do it in a season mate good luck hope it comes good for you. Without being cheeky let's know if any birds are going as I'm starting up Reay for next season cheers Tony
@@tonypeters9763 Tony there is birds available but where only breeding off the best so there not cheap mate , pretty much just the pairs in the video , there will be retired racers to go but we will only sell what we bred so they will all be from top pairs
The quality in your stock team is exceptional, ex-racers with fantastic records and others producing generations of winners, something most can only dream of!! Bet your winter evenings are never boring try to choose which ones to pair together.....'could you just pass me the pencil sharpner again dad' 😂 I noticed you still have them together is this something you normally do? Ive heard a few people say that a hen only has a certain number of eggs it can lay in a lifetime and letting them continue to lay in the off season is a waste, what do you reckon??
Agreed Andrew , we take one more round to sell , usually they all go before the end of the season but those that don’t get pre ordered I do an online auction with them , last year on pigeon chat and if we have 10-12 left end of season probably on there again , if only a handful il do it myself on elimar , most years though there all gone by the end of the season , we have alot of stock to go this year and a lot are totally untried but my shed at my house we want to turn into individual breeding pens so I need to pretty much sell every stock bird at mine to make the room , we want down to 16 pair of stock and that will consist 90% of our own family of pigeons so I’ve no doubt there will be some hidden gems we get rid of end of year as like I say they haven’t really been tried. Ps best time of the year picking the pairings I think for most fanciers , the not knowing and anticipation has to be the best part of breeding ybs 🤣👍
Your stock team are outstanding quality, I see use are very successful in racing hens ,how do you race them and how do you stop the hens from pairing up to one another,do they perch on poles or V perches ,as I've found the hens start to pair when in top condition,
Hi David , our hens race on roundabout and v perches , we find if we keep them racing each week it reduces them pairing together but if they do start pairing we try to find the main culprit or the lesser racer of the two and we start locking her in a box , our hens are in a dingy little section that gets very little light in and only see there boxes on a race day and these seems to be enough motivation for them on a Saturday, it’s a total headache when hens pair together so we try our best to stop it
Hi Paul , we get asked this a lot , but this is years and years of best to best so it’s very much our own family . But to answer you question I would say the most prominent strain would be Custer
Brilliant loft amazing birds, seems to be all over the world Hawk attacks on pigeons are devastating the pigeon racing community. Meanwhile the hawks are protected and numbers are rising plus they are looking for new territories. If only something preyed on them . Your dad has a lot upstairs when it comes to his knowledge of his Birds 😂
Hi Carlos we don’t sell ybs to race as we struggle to breed our own team , there will be a handful on elimar auction site at the end of the season but not many mate 👍
@@alibrospigeons8317 I remember when your da won the Chilton open races when I was a kid(as they were run by my old man and the fed secretary at the time) and we were lucky enough to win 2 of them ourselves.The money we were flying for then was unbelievable (people were working in a factory for £30/40 a week and the lads on the roads (pipelines) were making £150 plus on piece work) when we won one of those open races it was all pooler £705 (so your da would have won a fortune in those 4 races if you worked it out in todays money)ther north east elite used to turn up for those races (Marshall’s ,Tommy Young,Bobby Johnson at ryhope) they all used to come down and have a go Great stock there so you’ll be back on track after this years YB racing,but like you said you might have to stop a few after 3/4 races which isn’t ideal (I always found our best birds and our combine toppers flew the full YB programme) Best of luck to you and your old man pass my regards on
@@jock2109 my dad still speaks about them races , that is when pigeon racing was at its peak without doubt , as u say it’s certainly not ideal what we are thinking this year , but two seasons running Chelmsford has wiped everybody out , last year it was 100% the conveyer fault , we were sat in the conservatory in the pouring rain picking some horses out as we knew there was going to be no race so looking for some entertainment, it was pouring down with rain and dark as night outside and our phones both text saying the birds were released , we both looked at each other and said that’s it we will get wiped out , we got our first bird back at 7pm and had 2 on the day from 70ybs, the second one came in the dark at 9.30pm. Absolutely disgusting decision and is talked about as the worst race ever in the history of the UNC , over the coming weeks we get almost half back . There is something about Chelmsford as they raced the old birds from there yesterday but we couldn’t race and a lot of lads are 1/3 missing so it’s a death trap of a racepoint , but guess what it’s still on the yb fixture list this year ?. Thanks for your comment and take care mate 👍
@@alibrospigeons8317 he would talk about them still 😂 as he’d have had no cash to pull out for a while … you are right in that they were the days…..nothing beat it when the first bird in your allotments (30+ lofts dropped at yours as you were buzzing ) I remember doing cartwheels when we topped the combine from Tours and the old girl saying HOW OLD ARE YOU? I said you’d be doing cartwheels if you’d just won what we’ve just won £££££ keep banging then in 👏
Hi mark , there very much our own family as we believe in best to best and this has been the case for generations, if you go back far enough in the pedigrees all the old strains will be there and I would predominantly saying Cuesters as the most prominent but you won’t find many mentioned on our pedigrees as there so far back . Our twin lines were SOOTJEN x Bert hessian lines from 2010 crossed over with Denis Blakey x vandenheed which produced our base breeder the man who started the twin family , but the bullet our top stock cock was from syndicate lofts x RIK Herman’s but as I say after then it’s very much best racers paired on to each other once they made it to stock so you can’t find this family anywhere else but here . Thanks for you question mark regards Richy
hi ali flew birds for many ayear as a young lad ad pigeons for 30 years lost evry thing about 4 year ago thro personal reasons worse time of my life its was like losing a family member the pleasure and happy ness they give was amazing jest come across u videos bring back some good memory fantastic birds tremendous flyers look forward to seeing more of them good
Thank you Leslie I’m really pleased you enjoy the videos , you are exactly the target audience I was hoping for , people who no longer race for whatever reason , I hope to keep them going and thanks for the support.
Regards Richy
Thanks for this clip, quality team of stock pigeons many years of hard work gone into your birds by you & your dad.
@@davidmitchard1330 thank you David , appreciate your kind words mate 👍
Amazing you deserve everything what you put in to them well done both of you lads
Thanks mate , appreciate it
Thanks for showing your amazing team of pigeons. I have only subscribed to day. I don't fly pigeons anymore do to the lack of members. But I shall be joining you with some more of your brilliant videos in the near future. But one thing I do believe in is best to the best. But not first prize winner's to make champion racer or Breeder. Cheers mate 👍 👌
Thanks Eddie , these videos are for guys exactly like yourself to enjoy the race exactly as it is mate , no gimmicks just two guys hoping and preying 🤣, I’m with you all the way I would rather have a bird with 5X1ST to a bird who wins one big race breeding wise , thanks for watching mate 👍
The depth of quality is in direct response to your results fellas , unfortunately we all have our setbacks but it's the degree of the fancier to overcome them. I'm sure you both have many good yrs ahead of you , you are no dills ... good pigeon men to the extreme ! 👍👍
Thanks mark mate , really appreciate it 👍
Thank you both for showing us all your amazing team
Thanks Ian
Thanks for the loft tour and getting to see the pigeons.
Welcome mate , thanks for watching
Some quality stock there lads! Best of luck with your team next year 🍀👍🏼
Thank you Joe mate 👍
Outstanding! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you John 👍
Phenomenal pigeons & pigeon men
Hope all goes well with the young uns👌
Thanks Simon mate , appreciate it
Enjoying your pigeon videos guys ,thx for the inside filming puts an extra spin on everything although I don't keep pigeons these days I still follow results and yours are the best I've seen I can remember back to the eighties. Massive well done guys you deserve it here's to many more wins 👍👍
Thank you Tim , that means a lot mate 👍
Fantastic set up and quality birds best of luck for the remaining races for old birds and youngens
Thanks Trevor , appreciate it mate
Quality set up lads some lovely looking pigeons too. I have just got in to the sport helping out a bloke with his this year and have just set up a loft in my back garden to start up myself next season. Cheers for the videos hope mine trap as good as yours do!! Andy.
Thanks Andrew and good luck with you venture , and most importantly enjoy mate
great video birds look class
Thanks Neil mate
Lot of winners in your loft 👍
Thank you 👍
Top class lads
Cheers Ross mate , was nice to have a stress free day for once
Cracking pigeons lads a credit to you 👍👍
Thanks mark appreciate it mate
Excellent video of some outstanding pigeons, pure class .
Thank you 👍
Great video,been watching All season , look forward to seeing your coming videos best of luck for the rest of the season , hope all goes to plan with young bird team 🤞
Thanks Robert, it’s been the most frustrating old bird season in a lot of years , but these ybs really look the part so 🤞, thanks for your support mate
the thing is however good the stock are and you have some stunning birds they can not win on there own they need the fancier too, so congratulations on an incredible team
100% , I think this years videos have proven you need both the birds and the fancier , as we can’t make birds faster all we can do is prepare them so they are 100% every time they enter the basket
Out standing team of pigeons lads with great management thanks
Thanks David appreciate it mate
Brilliant video fingers crossed the ybs go well ,its peregrine mania up here terrible luck so far with mine 5 stiched up this year already, thanks again lads
I can only assume there getting hit on many occasions on route home , but our combine because of the driving hours they now have to adhere to has caused a lot of the problems, it’s to hot in the transporter and we are liberating to late in the day when others are up at 7am we are more like 9.30 so I don’t think this has helped mate
Morning to you both great onest clip again, did you ever get any of these pigeon's back or reported that's a hard one to swallow.
Fantastic hen 320, you need to keep hold of her Richy for the future.
Morning David , I’m not 100% sure which video your referring to but the answer either way will be no , with regards the yb race where we lost 34 pigeons it goes down as the worst race in the history of the UNC , the convoyer received 2 phone calls off fanciers 10mins before he liberated begging him not to let them go , it was 239 miles to us from Chelmsford and they were released in black clouds with torrential rain the entire way home , the poor birds had no chance , we had 70 ybs away that day and we got our first bird at 7.30pm and our second in the dark at 9pm so 2 back on the day , to tell you what happened we had a bird reported on a oil rig 70 miles out to sea inline with Norwich , so the birds went out to sea to try and go round the rain , we got 12 back the following day and another 20 over the next few weeks , the national the following week had 3000 birds away so approximately 12000 birds lost in the combine , obviously a few thousand made it back over the coming weeks but the only guys to profit were the big lofts who had a back up team of late breds but guys like us were knocked back a season which is this season hence the dip in form
Amazing birds 😮❤
Thank you
@@alibrospigeons8317 I love watching ur videos on race day, definitely a channel I watch 👍
Love the the videos lads good luck
Thanks Paul , pleased you enjoyed mate
Brilliant 👏
Thanks mate 👍
Absolute Quality there lads
Thanks bob appreciate it mate
Hello Richy, my fault i should of said stock & yb loft tour, shouldn't be let go in those conditions that not giving the pigeons a chance, that just chucking them away imo.
100% especially with babies
Great video again fellas
Thanks Tony
Quality stock loft imho you do not need to be buying in pigeons from elsewhere with the pigeon you already have at stock .
Your 100% right , there will be no pigeons coming in for the foreseeable mate 👍
Great video again fellas really sorry on your numbers hope all works out for you 👍
Have to keep plodding on mate , this old bird season has been a horrible experience, but I said to my dad it’s very educational as a lot of people ask is it the pigeons or is it the fancier, well I think we’ve proved this year you can’t make pigeons any faster , we prepare them so there 100% every week but if there not good enough u won’t win , il be entirely honest we need to get through this season and get our winning lines back in the team , but a lot will depend on how the yb season goes can we fix this in one season or will it take 2 seasons 👍
Hope you can do it in a season mate good luck hope it comes good for you.
Without being cheeky let's know if any birds are going as I'm starting up Reay for next season cheers Tony
Hope you can do it in a season mate good luck hope it comes good for you.
Without being cheeky let's know if any birds are going as I'm starting up Reay for next season cheers Tony
@@tonypeters9763 Tony there is birds available but where only breeding off the best so there not cheap mate , pretty much just the pairs in the video , there will be retired racers to go but we will only sell what we bred so they will all be from top pairs
@@alibrospigeons8317
What do your birds go for price wise mate
My favorite 💕
Thank you Asad
Can we have a look in there Da ? No 😅😂😂
🤣🤣🤣 old school mate
@@alibrospigeons8317 Fantastic
Thanks for showing us the 320 hen as you promised .
Your welcome , I hope you enjoyed 👍
Your welcome mate , she’s bred 7x1st in her first season at stock
Nice pigeons
Thank you Alyssa
The quality in your stock team is exceptional, ex-racers with fantastic records and others producing generations of winners, something most can only dream of!!
Bet your winter evenings are never boring try to choose which ones to pair together.....'could you just pass me the pencil sharpner again dad' 😂
I noticed you still have them together is this something you normally do?
Ive heard a few people say that a hen only has a certain number of eggs it can lay in a lifetime and letting them continue to lay in the off season is a waste, what do you reckon??
Agreed Andrew , we take one more round to sell , usually they all go before the end of the season but those that don’t get pre ordered I do an online auction with them , last year on pigeon chat and if we have 10-12 left end of season probably on there again , if only a handful il do it myself on elimar , most years though there all gone by the end of the season , we have alot of stock to go this year and a lot are totally untried but my shed at my house we want to turn into individual breeding pens so I need to pretty much sell every stock bird at mine to make the room , we want down to 16 pair of stock and that will consist 90% of our own family of pigeons so I’ve no doubt there will be some hidden gems we get rid of end of year as like I say they haven’t really been tried.
Ps best time of the year picking the pairings I think for most fanciers , the not knowing and anticipation has to be the best part of breeding ybs 🤣👍
Sounds like some difficult decisions to make....who's in and who's out.
I'll look out for your auction on pigeon chat
When will the sale be on the internet mate
@@GrahamHarrod hi Graham we will be having our auction on elimar this year , maybe 3-4 weeks after the last yb race mate 👍
Cracking birds
Thanks Gary mate
Your stock team are outstanding quality, I see use are very successful in racing hens ,how do you race them and how do you stop the hens from pairing up to one another,do they perch on poles or V perches ,as I've found the hens start to pair when in top condition,
Hi David , our hens race on roundabout and v perches , we find if we keep them racing each week it reduces them pairing together but if they do start pairing we try to find the main culprit or the lesser racer of the two and we start locking her in a box , our hens are in a dingy little section that gets very little light in and only see there boxes on a race day and these seems to be enough motivation for them on a Saturday, it’s a total headache when hens pair together so we try our best to stop it
@@alibrospigeons8317 Thank you for the reply,your videos are great,and your birds are top class in the stock loft, cheers David Allison
@@davidallison5689 thank you David , really appreciate your kind words .
Regards Richy
Fantastic, thanks
Thanks mark
Very nice video and I love your pigeons if you don’t mind me asking wot breed are thay 👌👌
Hi Paul , we get asked this a lot , but this is years and years of best to best so it’s very much our own family .
But to answer you question I would say the most prominent strain would be Custer
Thank you very much thay are a very good team of pigeons you have got out of this world and I don’t blame you for stopping some for next year 👍👍
Great video thanks
Thanks Anthony mate
Brilliant loft amazing birds, seems to be all over the world Hawk attacks on pigeons are devastating the pigeon racing community. Meanwhile the hawks are protected and numbers are rising plus they are looking for new territories. If only something preyed on them . Your dad has a lot upstairs when it comes to his knowledge of his Birds 😂
Thanks David and your 100% right mate
Brilliant bird and I lovely set up
@@frankbunting2729 thanks frank
Any young birds for sale ?
Hi Carlos we don’t sell ybs to race as we struggle to breed our own team , there will be a handful on elimar auction site at the end of the season but not many mate 👍
Denis Blakey not Stobbs Triple X
Of course , I mean that hen belongs to Paul Stobbs , but yes Dennis originally owned the triple x lines 👍
@@alibrospigeons8317 I remember when your da won the Chilton open races when I was a kid(as they were run by my old man and the fed secretary at the time) and we were lucky enough to win 2 of them ourselves.The money we were flying for then was unbelievable (people were working in a factory for £30/40 a week and the lads on the roads (pipelines) were making £150 plus on piece work) when we won one of those open races it was all pooler £705 (so your da would have won a fortune in those 4 races if you worked it out in todays money)ther north east elite used to turn up for those races (Marshall’s ,Tommy Young,Bobby Johnson at ryhope) they all used to come down and have a go
Great stock there so you’ll be back on track after this years YB racing,but like you said you might have to stop a few after 3/4 races which isn’t ideal (I always found our best birds and our combine toppers flew the full YB programme)
Best of luck to you and your old man pass my regards on
@@jock2109 my dad still speaks about them races , that is when pigeon racing was at its peak without doubt , as u say it’s certainly not ideal what we are thinking this year , but two seasons running Chelmsford has wiped everybody out , last year it was 100% the conveyer fault , we were sat in the conservatory in the pouring rain picking some horses out as we knew there was going to be no race so looking for some entertainment, it was pouring down with rain and dark as night outside and our phones both text saying the birds were released , we both looked at each other and said that’s it we will get wiped out , we got our first bird back at 7pm and had 2 on the day from 70ybs, the second one came in the dark at 9.30pm. Absolutely disgusting decision and is talked about as the worst race ever in the history of the UNC , over the coming weeks we get almost half back .
There is something about Chelmsford as they raced the old birds from there yesterday but we couldn’t race and a lot of lads are 1/3 missing so it’s a death trap of a racepoint , but guess what it’s still on the yb fixture list this year ?.
Thanks for your comment and take care mate 👍
@@alibrospigeons8317 he would talk about them still 😂 as he’d have had no cash to pull out for a while … you are right in that they were the days…..nothing beat it when the first bird in your allotments (30+ lofts dropped at yours as you were buzzing ) I remember doing cartwheels when we topped the combine from Tours and the old girl saying HOW OLD ARE YOU? I said you’d be doing cartwheels if you’d just won what we’ve just won £££££ keep banging then in 👏
@@jock2109 🤣 CLASS MATE
Aiden bred 7x1st fed as I have a fed winner out him
Cheers Garry il update mate 👍
I watch All you videos,just liKe to know what strain the main 2 stock breeders..London fancier
Hi mark , there very much our own family as we believe in best to best and this has been the case for generations, if you go back far enough in the pedigrees all the old strains will be there and I would predominantly saying Cuesters as the most prominent but you won’t find many mentioned on our pedigrees as there so far back . Our twin lines were SOOTJEN x Bert hessian lines from 2010 crossed over with Denis Blakey x vandenheed which produced our base breeder the man who started the twin family , but the bullet our top stock cock was from syndicate lofts x RIK Herman’s but as I say after then it’s very much best racers paired on to each other once they made it to stock so you can’t find this family anywhere else but here .
Thanks for you question mark regards Richy