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All kind of mods you may apply to your guitar for best tremolo use - Part 4: why a guitar with a tremolo gets out of tune, what are the "friction points", how the strings/tremolo system works.
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brilliant - thank you! great instruction accompanied by great illustrations.
Thanks Galeazzo. There a lot of trem mods gems in here on that I have not seen anywhere else. I appreciate your time and careful explanations.
Thanks so much for putting these videos together. I doubt I'll as far a drilling my strat trem, but you provided a lot of great tips in this series. Hope you find the time and inclination to finish the setup manuals on you web site.
BRAVO! and remember this is even more important for bass strings (think to the strings through body anchoring of the ball end).
Dude - you are incredible. Absolutely amazing detail. You are a guitar wizard.
A counter-sync drill bit is used to make a chamfered edge on a hole, how you were mentioning for some of the screws for the trem pivot points.
No for two reasons: 1) the sustain depends on the strings vibrating not on the "dead" part sunken in the tremolo. 2) the incidance angles the strings enter the bridge (which are the main responsible of strings tension and sustain) remain the same. Indeed you should find some sustain increase as more energy is directed and remains to the vibrating part of the string.
@swing8th It's a fine vibrato you can manage it as any other "two pivots like"
At 4:40 you refer to a self centering drill bit, cheap and widely available. It's mainly used in machine shop lathes for centered holes.
Countersunks aren't always the best way to smooth the edge of a hole.
I don't recommend carving screws, unless of course you are able to do it professionaly,
and with stainless steel screws. Common alloy screws won't stand the stress and
may bend or fracture.
For real stability and extreme tremoloing, lube the nut (with graphite from a pencil tip)
very cool series. I wont do all the suggestions but I will definetely use some of them. But I thought your suggestions were quite sound. Very good.
How about a video on adjusting the tremelo when changing the gauge of strings.
@Juni41 Mmhh strange... No it does not change anything also because they are perfectly aligned with a CNC machine. I am going to post a video on how to setup these 6 screws properly for the best tremolo performance.
thanq you man!!!! this videos are really helpful
@komoru That kind of tool will reduce the smoothnes of the arm movement compared to a well adjusted tremolo and also harden its movement.
awesome video, thanx!
@JPIndustrie Yes the VSV and VS300 from Gotoh / WIlkinson sports some of these mods already
@MrEmBerna you have to use a driller mounted on a support.
Great video! Are there drop in replacement bridges that I can buy that already have all these modifications? Wilkinson's perhaps? Thanks!
Thanks a lot you are the best
conversely it will halp your string to maintain its structure (which on the lows is pretty complex) by not facing many tensed angles
@encoreyaya Because most of the probelms happens due to that portion of string that goes from the ball end to the saddle
To make the modification of the screws you can also use a drill where to fix the screw, the bit enters the vice of the drill, and during the rotation make the mod. with an appropriate file.
I don't know if you understand what I mean 😷
Thank you. Structurally speaking, I suppose that's very cool. But you know Strat players---'authentic' and 'vintage' are the most important words we know, after Fender and 'Stratocaster'. In a stock vintage tremolo, the first inch or so of the string is resonating along, with everything else, within the sustain block. What I want to know is if drilling the sustain blocks to 'full bore' will alter the resonance sufficiently that you can hear it. Great vids, BTW, thanks for posting.
I've been working to improve the tuning stability of my strat tremolo. I notice that I have notches in my saddles from the strings. I saw this Fender video that recommends polishing the groves away but maybe you don't recommend this? Fender Custom Shop Master Builder Tips: Lubing the Saddle Nut & String Tree Could you please explain? Thanks!
@Flatted357 Must be a wood at least hard as basswood not less than this if you're using 6 screws, not less than alder if you're using pivots..
How does deepening the sting hole in the bridge sustain block help? Great Videos btw.
@nativeclan Will do :)
Thanks for this very usefull video. I just wandering, is it possible to readjust the old strat tremolo with 6 points to the new and, everyone says, better version which has a 2 point by instaling those special 2 point screws and expanding the first and the sixt hole on the tremolo. Thank very much...
Yes it is but as I demontrated in other videos and in thiese ones, a vintage tremolo can be set to work perfectly and will sound better than a two pivots one.
Hello Frudua, is there is a way that i can send to you my bridge so that you can make that tipe of modification? And also want to mention that we are are all waiting for the pickup adjustment video. Thanks for teaching us such great secrets, inthink you are a real genious!!
@z3r0sh1ft Nothing it's there just to show you an example of the the slot you should carve out in the other screw.
Have special drill bit manufactured to your drawings specs, to sharpen the bridge plate screw holes edge?
Then go to a machine shop and have them carve a small slot 2 mm below the head of the six bridge screws?
Should I demand they do not deviate from your crayon schematics?
You sound like a pussy
How tight or loose should I leave the 6 screws holding the tremolo bridge? I have had some guitarists tell me to keep each screw 1/16" above the base of the bridge, while others tell me to keep them all screwed in snug to the bridge.
I am planning to build a VH1 with ASH of course, possibly a might mite?? What should I keep in mind when choosing a body as it relates to installation and stability of a fender tremolo system (vintage) or other important functions or tone??
Frudua do you know if pre-drilled block or entire vibrato bridge system can be purchased Off The Shelf, if so where can I buy one. Thanks
Frudua - would it be ok to just follow the last piece of your advice, removing the four internal bridge screws, without having done any other bridge modifications?
Solicito, por favor traducir este info./gracias.
Thank bro for theses videos, they are really interesting and well explain.
At 7:00 : Official Fender website strat setup guide do recommend to loose theses 4 internal screws for better smooth tremolo movement. However does it really change your tone to do that? What do you think?
Won't fixing the strings up towards the top of the sustain block, after drilling open string channels, alter the tone?
@cksmith007 I am striving to do this but in the end they would only be a pale copies of these videos.
What do you think of the Wilkinson 5+1 tremolo and do you think it needs all the mods you talk about in this video or does it have this improvements allready?
hey i have an ibanez gio series guitar (has tremolo similar to fender stratocaster).. can i put tune lockers in that guitar ?? i know the neck is bent but still ... because i loosened the tremolo string but still no help ...
Tanks Frudua Tv for all your info. but why don't manufacturers make these modifications as standard?
Hi Maestro Frudua, do your GFF Mix guitars have notched screws on the vibrato bridge? Thank You
@Kitarraman no vai tranq. Sustain e suono dipendono da manico e qui sul blocco inerziale stai comunque togliendo pochi mm rispetto alal massa che ha di suo.
auto focus is almost painful. again tripod, fixed focus = better quality presentation, and as always great information :)
Ok thank you again :D
hi the non-vibrating prtions of the strings are NOT resonating. Drilling the hole won't affect the tone.
You're referring to the counter-sync drill bit.
they say to losen not fully remove.like 1 turn above the outer edge.
Oooooooooooouh shit....
Vabbè vedrò di aggiustarmi da solo ;)
Grazie mille x la risposta!!
Excuse me, another question: how to deepen the hole in the sustain block? (U show it at 1:46 but I don't know what to use to do that... The special drill bit U show after, perhaps? ;) )
@alangriff1 Frankly is a mistery for me as well.
How do you deepen the sustain block's hole?
John Suhr who worked at Fender and now owns his own guitar company, speaks about the problems more comprehensively. the thing is that any Strat trem has a problem with the G and high E. don't believe it? tune the guitar, play a G major, dunk the bar, play again, now bend the G string one whole step anywhere on the fretboard and you'll see it goes flat. if you dunk the bar now it goes back to pitch again. take a look at Gotoh 510T trem block options with FST or FTS dunno what it's called.
First...thank you for your VERY informative videos. I thank you for them.
Next, I don't quite understand your response to MrEmBerna stating to use a drill mounted on a support. Would you possilby be willing to make a video showing this process please?
Where do you live/work? I would LOVE to bring you my strats!
Again, thank you very much for your videos!
@z3r0sh1ft with a same diameter drill bit
If you don't want to alter your guitars I have made a video where I eaplin how to perfectly to use the tremolo without mods
does the contact point should be oiled somehow??
Hey, What will the black screw does in 6:26?
Tensile strength is a dead heat for hardware store wood screws made of mild steel or low grade stainless. But...... but....... stainless is significantly softer and has a tendency to gall. So........ stainless is iffy. Stainless (304 - 316 series) is stain resistant, it is not necessarily strong. The fact is no wood screws are highly graded, mainly because they go into wood, and that's not strong at all.
Where / how can I get these special bits and stuff to modify a bridge like this? what tools do i need to use?
With a dremmel and a drill machine with a progressive tip you should be fine.
Ciao Frudua, sono un italiano che vuol sapere da chi dovrebbe portare il ponte per ottenere tutte le modifiche che consigli qui (perché dal video non riesco a capirlo -ho un inglese molto limitato...-), evitando così il rischio di rovinare tutto il ponte :)
Ciao grazie anticipatamente x la tua risposta
@MrEmBerna Ciao Sorry non conosco nesusno in Italia in grado di fare questo.
@davey1272250 Never say yourself you're an idiot. Always speak to yourself/desrribe yourself using appealing names. Trust me! In this paricular case change it in "yet unprepared" (or simlar meaning english words)
fucking great!!!
@Kitarraman E' prob la più importante
@davey1272250 This won't make a much unfortunatly.
counter-sink
@saglio Porque no todos entienden o hablan italiano xD
no!
I'm blocking my trem! Thanks
Not necessariliy
this is not new!!! maybe 30 years..