It’s the fact that they’re animals that makes them more human, because it makes us think about it and fill in the gaps. Kinda like how monsters are more scary when they’re unseen, since our mind fills in the gaps. That’s why Aesop’s Fables works so well with animals, because we are the ones who will actively fill in the gaps.
After their rap-deathmetal showdown, I think it's implied that Ton lowkey thinks highly of Retsuko. Saying "One day, you'll be a shitty boss too" I felt reveals that he thinks Retsuko is the one most likely to rise to his level in the corporate ladder out of everyone in his department.
yeah that's a hell of a backwards compliment that shows he really respects her, in his own way. The fact that ton is so good at improv raps about coworkers he hates also implies that when he was younger he used the same coping method as retsuko, just replacing metal with rap.
Yeah, I never thought about that. Albeit id di thought about how in the end what make him "hostile" toward Restuko is the potential he see in her(big hint for everybody, if your boss give lot of work to you is because he know YOU CAN DO IT PROPERLY- you know your work.) but her meek, as you pointed out self centered, attitude unnerve him and what put him on war territory is the notion that she is looking to quit, essentially meaning that she don't give a crap about her job, that he consider important for the company(also kudos for explaining the meaning of company or society). Eventually they do come to mutual understanding. Albeit they still are on two opposite battlefield so to speak. Also I think that, much like Washimi and Gori, see a little bit of his yougner selves in her (and this add to his bad mood). Damn i too I have many theories about these guys. GIMMME A BOARD A THREAD ANYTHING!!!
I really don’t think that’s the case, I think it’s just the natural progression of an office job that if one person works long enough somewhere it’s enough to move up the ladder. A good example was my supervisor who wasn’t at all good at her job and regularly needed to be talked to even though her actions weren’t ill intended but the company needed a new supervisor so they just went with her because she was there for about 15 years
It's always nice to see media which takes these sorts of problems seriously, acknowledging that they're valid and that adults needing help to solve them is just normal.
I actually like how Resasuke and Retsuko's relationship ended. I enjoyed seeing a failed relationship not necessarily being because one or both partners are terrible to each other, but more that one can't meet the other's needs. Resasuke will never be the ex that you talk about behind clenched teeth, he's just not right for her. As for him, as his cluelessness suggests, he may not be the sort of person who is ever interested in relationships, and kept things going with Retsuko because his coworker kept insisting upon it.
I especially like how Retsuko realized that Resasuke isn't who she was pretending he was. After suddenly turning into a death metal goddess and insulting him in his face, all he does is clap and ask what she wants to do next. While he is someone who does not care about Retsuko's true side, it's for the wrong reason: he doesn't actually understand what it means.
I think Resasuke's plants also implies he's a "herbivore man" which is a japanese term for a man that's not actually looking for a partner nor cares that he doesn't have one; an indifference to relationships. which is kind of what he does when he only takes ritsuko out cause his coworker suggested it, and not really noticing anything during their date. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men
Resasuke is how people see Retsuko from a outside perspective. He going through a lot of trouble because of him own flaws in a sector that does not fit his personality. He is also are tryng the best to fit in social pressure even if he does not understand why he needs a girlfriend. Resasuke is addtive to coffee because of stress. This similarity with retsuko is what make them have a moment in the bar. But the coffee bugs Retsuko mind. After falling to connect with Resasuke through fantasy, she come to the conclusion he needs the same thing she does to get real with people, But Resasuke is not surprise. He really is a another person with others needs and really needs a coffee over a beer to get through life.
My one disagreement. I believe you were rather harsh on Risasukue. He's not really an inconsiderate jerk, he's just always off in his own world, and doesn't know the first thing about socializing. He's not a jerk, he's just incredibly oblivious.
Derray Productions Actually i was rewatching it with a friend. She has dissociative identity disorder and often is walking around trying to just function normally. Between remembering to eat and being an honor student shes often off in her own little world and wont notice anything unless you actually say “hey im hungry you got any food”. Shes not actually inconsiderate, shes just not there in the moment. We actually kind of realized he was similar to her in a way. Kind of recoloring his actions. He did not want to date, he just wanted to be seen as a normal person. And normal people date. He also did not want to disappoint anyone, he knew he was unfit for it - but his friend wanted him to date, and she liked him. He was just going with the flow and hopping not to drown. But at end of day, his work, a few friends, and his plants is about as much as he can handle. And he can not fully handle that even some times. Hes not a bad person, he just cant focus on the things at hand.
I think he may be on the autism spectrum. He doesn't seem to grasp social cues and he seems to do awkward things without caring what other think. When he saw the ferris wheel, he was so focused on it that he literally walked through the water fountain lol
So this series started off as a bunch of small shorts that you'd expect to see between tv shows. The hippo character, Megumi, had one episode that meant a lot to me, where Retsuko was feeling under the weather. Megumi came over to her house to check on her, make sure that everything around the house needed to be done, but because it was her first time actually being there, she had to keep asking the ill Retsuko, "Hey, where are your pots? Where are your cleaning supplies?" It got to a point where Retsuko was about to belt out like death metal, but she was so ill that she just had a coughing fit. When Megumi leaves that day, she leaves Retsuko with a hot pot of soup full of the necessities for curing a cold. The episode ends with Retsuko commenting that it tastes pretty good. For those of us that have seen the original anime, this is like giving it a higher budget and allowing for even greater storytelling than a five minute block could provide.
I think Resasuke isnt intentionally a jerk. He was basically pushed into a relationship he doesnt seem emotionally ready for. Which i guess makes it more depressing at the end for him. Im impressed the show got me to go from being hostile and disliking a character so much to actually sympathizing with them...which happens to three or four characters in two and a half hours, while humanizing even more. Incredible!
i was thinking exactly the same, it was clear that he didn't have the intention to date Retsuko, yet he's directly told by his workmate that "he must have a girlfriend", and it is clear he was not truly enjoying the whole thing
Kaiser Crimson i think Manumaru was well intentioned-maybe he thought Resasuke needed someone to keep him grounded? But Retsuko just isnt the type to enjoy burdening herself with all the emotional labor in a relationship, like most people.
I was about to say the same thing. I don't think the ending was depressing for him, but rather he was happy to be out of that relationship. That's the impression I got anyway.
mitkitty Yeah. Usually, when a show makes the "bad boyfriend " character they make him an abusive asshole. This guy isn't a monster, he just can't give her what she wants because he lives in his own head too much. It's a subtle touch that many other shows rush right past in their need to hammer home the message of not setting got the wrong guy.
mitkitty I know it's stupid but when he walked into his house full of plants I felt really bad. As it's clear he has socializing problems as seen on his date and has only been able to communicate with the only "people" that he understands his plants when he said "I'm back". It's also really good symbolism for the state of men in Japan usually single and working lacking social skills or the drive to really make friends or have a relationship. As Japan has a serious problem of really low birth rate. This is why I personally loved his character but hey Mr.Ton is in my top 3 favorite character in the show so I have a strange taste in characters.
Ahem. Komiya is not a weasel. He's a meerkat. You know, one of those hyper, annoying guys fixated on keeping the team together no matter how dysfunctional it is or how much everyone has to sacrifice for it, while working through the hierarchy to be as close to the pack leader as possible.
Komiya is voiced by Todd Haberkorn in the English dub. He’s best known for voicing Natsu from Fairy Tail, Death the Kid from Soul Eater, Italy from Hetalia, and Ling from Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood.
Stuff like this makes me wish there was a special age rating for movies/series meant for adults but not containing any extreme violence or swearing. Children could watch this but I doubt they would find it interesting while adults might gloss over it due to it's childish seeming visuals.
Yeah, there need to be more "adult" cartoons that are "mature" but not sexually explicit or vulgar. I hate that both those words have become innuendo for media containing sex, violence, other content inappropriate for children.
I’m a teen (16) and I’m afraid of bringing this up with my parents and let me tell you I needed this show, it’s actually surprisingly accurate to my school life currently
Spoiler: two whole generations before you have *never* actually figured out how to adult. -) Ask your parents what they've been doing during the Disco craze! Don't expect a truthful answer. ))
@@thecleitom9497 As someone from the future and after three seasons in during the show, what you said is definitely on point (and part of why I love the show)! ^^
I like how Ton tells Retsuko that one day she'll be the one people are calling shitty boss. It sounds like an insult, but at the same time he's revealing that he thinks she has what it takes to grind up the corporate ladder and take over what was once his position. It also shows that he may be acting the way he does because he feels that his position isolates him from others, so he feels out of touch and lashes out at those around him. Sure, he's a jerk, but he may be that way because he feels alone. Decades of work in a toxic environment have jaded him into becoming the same. It makes his character sort of tragic, really.
Misha Leontiev In the end, everyone's a bit like that. The world isn't so black and white and how people turns out depends on how they have been treated in their surroundings.
"This is what strong 3Dimensional humans look like, flat 2D animals" - Geoff Thew Damn, i dunno if it's just me, but this quote felt really deep for some reason...
If anyone drops that "cartoons for kids" thing on me, I normally give them the Usagi Drop anime (not manga, do not mistake the two.) Unless I'm feeling utterly sadistic, and I give them Grave of the Fireflies instead.
Here's the thing, Since the Drinking party, Ton has Out right told her, He respects her, thinks she's good enough to actually make it, and is hard on her to keep her sharp enough to deal with it. When he's Grilling her for who turned him in, He asks out right if she's going to Quit, or keep at it. She says keep at it and From then on he pushes her even harder than he did form the beginning, leading to "I'm not a nice guy, I'm a bastard But-" Having dealt with "his kind" before, he is in his twisted way, Grooming her to take his place. And for those who missed it in the Eng Version, He lied when he said he didn't remember the party.
I know right!! He's out right suggested he was Trained "Military Style" and is Training her too. if she can take his shit and walk, there's nothing her underlings could do to her.
Just an assumption, and my own Fat Bastard Drinking problem, but, every time he talks to her in person, he's telling her what she NEEDS. and "I remember" would have done nothing good for her... I know it's bit baseless but it FEELS like that was his game. (I may or may not have had to tell a similar lie)
I'm glad you said what I observed about Ton and Retsuko's relationship. Hell the dude killed her with his rap and her only response was raw emotion and he accepted it.
I really liked how showing Resasuke's apartment full of healthy looking plants allowed the viewer to see that he wasn't as inattentive as everyone at work truly viewed him. It was really cute
Just Some Guy with a Mustache heh, come on man, we can all tell what you’re really talking about, heck the VA for best boy Haida had an encounter with those awakened people
It’s weird. I was relieved when Retsuko’s crush for Resasuke faded and she decided what she wanted. However, I relate to Resasuke on a ton of levels. I never cared for dating or relationships. Literally the only reason for it is because “everyone needs a girlfriend”. I am socially... I don’t even know what to call it. Inept? I find it extremely hard to hold a basic conversation with someone. I can barely start one. I usually give short answers like “yes, uh-huh, I’m fine” and I know how repetitive it can get but I don’t know how to improve socially without it being forced. Like Resasuke, I’m more comfortable talking over text mostly because I can change what I say when typing. I tend to be pushed around by the few friends I have mostly because I’d rather not say no. I daydream a lot because I get bored easily and have trouble focusing. I wouldn’t say he’s a jerk because like him, I have trouble reading cues that other people give off. I don’t know if I would be incorrect in a situation like that. idk
I not gonna lie I liked that character too, I was like "I hope this doesn't hurt him to bad" when they broke up cause dude not a bad guy just not for her.
Oof, Haida is all to real. From the situation he's in, the way he goes about it, how he acts, even to the fucking Punk rock scene. I'm pretty sure I have that exact jacket. But goddamn, when he mentioned the whole "liking the idea of her" it really hit home. It's been 5 years now and I still love that girl to death. Maybe I'm in Retsuko's situation and I just don't know it. The show paints it all really well by letting the personalities and the situations they are put in do the talking. It feels as if I've met all of these people before. Its honestly some of the best writing I've seen in a while.
I thought I was the only one that absolutely loved haida's character. He's just so *real* . 3 years ago I was the same person as Haida, in the same situation as Haida. Stuck liking a girl to afraid to say it and ending up losing to a space cadet with there being nothing I can do about it because just how in the show, haida was never considered, neither was I.
I was like Haida but one day I did get the nerve to say something one day......but nothing came of it, and yet she is still in my head. We were friends for a long time but I had developed a thing for her but then she got with some asshole for awhile and then ended up leaving her. After a few months I told her but she wasn't interested in dating friends, which I am fine with regardless of what she said we would still be friends because I care about her a lot. However Im glad in a way she said no, I have learned over time that I shouldn't be with someone. All I do is fuck things up for either myself or others, and I utterly hate myself everyday. I don't see any redeeming factors at all. I leave not impact in anyone's lives, its even a fucking miracle that I even have a handful of friends.
It is worth noting that Hello Kitty has been losing market share over the past few years. Her old audience just grew up and aren't interested in the more idealistic view of life. They've been looking for more relatable characters, and after Gudetama blew up, Sanrio realized it as well.
I'd say cute like in not giving the characters disproportionate features in a borderline desperate attempt to make them look cute and still give me a smirk from time to time with clever dialogues and such.
That description is the entire reason why my favorite final fantasy game, despite playing and beating a ton of the numbered series is the crystal chronicals game on the GameCube. Super deformed cutie heroes running what's essentially a second edition D&D campaign on dragon's keep. It's the most metal square enix has taken the a game with chibi anime heroes in a while.
This show has genuinely helped me through depression and the seething rage that adulthood can induce. It's taught me a lot and I'd recommend it as a "what-to-expect" for viewers of all ages; particularly those about to enter the work stage of their life. You will receive some insightful ideas on how the world and its inhabitants function.
Is it possible that all the protagonist girls are Best Girls? Honestly, I've never watched a series where I literally can't decide which one I like the most, for different reasons.
also look around the net for the shorts that came like 2 years ago. many of the characters appears, but the shorts are only about ritsuko stressing and singing metal
Kinda bummed this came out when it did because Kabae (the one you called Megumi) got a huge development in the second season when she's the only one that's able to get to Anai and ended up becoming this mom character whom I treasure so much.
I got the impression that there really won't be anyone that will eventually date Resasuke. Not because of some fault of his, but because he honestly didn't seem interested in the idea of dating in the first place. And it's a good message to put forth, really, that a person doesn't have to date to be a complete person.
ZeonTwilight You don't have to be "asexual" to not date, not end up getting married, not be interested in a romantic relationship, etc. That kind of thinking is just another way of putting people in a box.
I'm well aware there are a ton of reasons that one may not be interested in dating both within one's control and outside of one's control. Personally, he vibes Asexual to me, but you know what, you're right, I really shouldn't label others even if they are just characters in a show.
I feel like making the characters animals and anthropomorphising them really showcases their human qualities (like you said) and really makes them ironically symbolic.
"Tom is the most unlikeable character in the entire cast..." No, no. At least he has some humanity. Even some skill and use. HIs asskissing weasle flunkie is the most unlikeable person because he has yet to show ANY redeeming quality."
That may be true. Like good LORD he pisses me off to no end. But what if that's on purpose? What if he was made to be that way only to hit us with something particularly tragic about him further down the road? I hope they take that route with the weasel, I really do.
Retsuko's friend is a bit of an asshole as well, in one of the episode she pretty much just says "Be responsible so people like me don't have to be responsible ourselves" that's pretty selfish
BurntBacon You know, that was how I felt, but then again retsuko actually envied her way of living. On the other entrepreneurs are by nature responsible, putting their all and risking everything into their baby. Also, she seemed interested in work with the startup, but not really set on a career.
Not gonna lie, this show kind of reminds me of the message One Punch Man gives: Life is hard, and not even a dream job can help make your life happy and self fulfilling (nor do they exist to), but the people around you can help you get through the day.
Sean Taylor Take messages as you will, but Saitama did take on the challenge of becoming a hero only to find it not that fulfilling as he thought it was hyped up to be. The system is incredibly flawed and he doesn't feel anything from being a hero because there is no longer a challenge for him now that he has the strength (and is still ignored by the failed system all because he failed a written test when getting his license, thus lowering his rank, ignoring his god like capabilities). It's only when he's surrounded by people he grows to care about or people he has affected (like Mumen Rider, who is both in one) that he feels a sense of fulfillment or happiness in life. It's also one of the few times he see him smile, and not out of sarcasm. The job of being a hero wasn't all it cracked up to be, and that's the case of real life dream jobs. A job is a job, even if you dreamed of it your whole life. Saitama got lost in the fantasy of being a hero after leaving his previous job that made him miserable. He still does heroic things, but he's pretty desperate to feel something for the job again. He only looks up when surrounded by people who are genuine to him. So take what you will from the show, but I am going to have to disagree with you on how it was taken. But if it motivates you or anything, have at it.
"he doesn't feel anything from being a hero because there is no longer a challenge for him now that he has the strength" - This is literally the point I made. Saitama wanted to be the strongest but when he achieved that goal he found that nothing he fought offered him any sort of a challenge. When the show starts, he's merely existing and bored half to death and he wasn't even a hero yet. He only became a hero after Genos told him about the organization. His reason for wanting to join was he wanted to be popular like the top heroes, which was only a shallow "band-aid" solution for his utter boredom with life. Also a dream job isn't some perfect scenario where everything goes right. A dream job is a job that allows you to live life the way you want while earning a living doing something you love.
Sean Taylor You told me how you took the anime but it also sounded like you were trying to correct me with your wording, so I stated my argument. We agree he feels a no challenge, but we disagree about how that is handled in the series. Seriously though, go with what you see. We don't have to agree on this.
It's kind of ironic how many of the shows with the most "human" charcaters in the last few years are about anthropomorphic talking animals (Aggretsuko, Bojack Horseman).
It's actually pretty common, humans are very complex, and you cannot go much about them, cause superficially we're pretty much the same face. With Anthropomorphic beings is easier to see their intentions cause we usually have a general idea of what a character that it's a pig can act like, or a snake, then now that you have a clear picture of said characters is up to the writer to make it work.
Another example that comes to my mind is the video game Night in the Woods. I actually see some similarities between that and this show. Maybe not plot-wise or presentation-wise, but the concept is the same and they both have a very minimalistic artstyle.
iota-09 If you dont find it relatable you probably aren't a mid to late 20 something who worked at a job with a horrible boss. Where you just have to put your head down and go along with the bullshit because you have to pay your bills, and the job market is uncertain so leaving is hard.
Crescent Moon yeah, and i can't see myself resorting to that and bowing down my head given what my life led to in these 22 years. I guess i'll just keep be unable to appreciate it.
iota-09 We all have diffrent expirences 😁 Give it a few years, Im almost 30, and Ive worked some great jobs, and some really shitry ones. Some times you take what you get.
ah yeah, thats.. it's a bit different, if we were talking about my brother i could see that taking place in a couuple years, but e? yeah no, simply for the fact i get an invalidity pension.
Fenneko found her way into my heart the second she popped on screen, but it got SO much better.....worse? :P when the mixer episode and it's aftermath happened. Like I'm a fan of fennec foxes and characters based on them to begin with, so I was doomed from the start, and then her social media stalking/detective work and the deadpan humor sealed the deal...but it was so...I don't even know the right adjective to use, but I loved seeing her show a softer caring side when she gets apologetic for letting Haida down by not keeping Retsuko from finding someone to date at the mixer. And then right at the end when she leaves the two of them alone in the hospital room and goes all 'just tell each other how ya feel, ya twits'. Gold.
Watching this after watching season 1 2 and 3 is so shocking. You realize how spot on and right this dude was with what he said, Especially the part (A bit of a spoiler coming up) where he said retsuko and haida go to karaoke. Insane dude
You know... three minutes into this video I was just about to stop watching it and never give this anime another glance... I'm glad I continued watching :-)
Good on you, it really is a great series. I just finished it a week before this vid came out, a friend let me know about it, and he got me hooked simply by sharing the clip of Ton and Retsuko having their drunken music battle....after saying 'This is by the same people who did Hello Kitty. Prepare to be amazed' XD
I don't think Resasuke is a jerk, he's just a bit of a air headed daydreamer who is so trapped inside his own head that he forgets the simplest of things. Yes, he appears inconsiderate, but not on purpose. He just has a hard time reading others and empathizing with them. I sort of headcanons him as autistic, as I'm autistic myself and I can relate to some of his traits: his interest taking up most of his room, his trouble with keeping up with people who expect him to read their mind, and him daydreaming so much he's practically sleeping with his eyes open. He's still nice when he understands whats going on, like helping Retsuko when she's drunk
I don't even think it's fair to call him inconsiderate. He wasn't the source of Retsuke's pain. Retsuke was too timid to be forthright about her needs, and Resasuke took her statements literally.
She was also just as disinterested and unattentive to the 'real him' as he was to her, for different reasons, of course, but she quite literally saw him look completely different from what he actually looks like the entire time. Neither of them were a good match for each other.
The funny thing about the show is that none of the episodes (as far as I remember) have any explicit gore or sexuality, or even jokes that cover those topics. It’s entirely a mature anime because it covers topics children wouldn’t be able to to relate to. That already makes this a top tier adult anime.
Vicente Ortega Rubilar I too would like to kidnap an undersized girl with animal ears and carry her off in my backpack. ... Did I misunderstand what you meant?
Regarding Retsuko asking Haida if he'd want her to work, I honestly thought she was just asking him as a point of reference of if ANY man would want his wife to work. Since he's the only man she's on friendly terms with. She got her answer from him and walked away. I do think she did this selfishly, but I didn't think she was asking him about if THEY were married.
That's a valid interpretation. But she also specifically asks him, "if we were married, would you still want me to work?" While I don't think she intended it the way it came out, the wording she used was pretty important to Haida. It was pretty thoughtless of her, but that's kinda the point.
I was confused about this as well until I realised that the dub says "if we were married" but in the sub it's "if you were married" or something similar. It totally changes the context in my opinion
You know that's funny you said that... Martin Scorsese said the same thing about movies that young people see old people in movies and now the another way around that old people see young people on the pictures instead... funny thing right ...! 😁😎🎬
That actually makes tons of sense for stuff like South Park, Rick and Morty or Family Guy that most of the viewers are teens, but I don't think a teen can relate to Aggretsuko themes like an adult.
One of my favorite parts with Ton is when he’s rapping and he says that Retsuko isn’t that great of a worker! What’s great about that is that when you step back and really look at it, you realize that he’s right. She’s just kind of getting through things she’s not going above and beyond at her job. Of course he still hate him but at the same time you realize that he’s right. And after she destroys him with death metal, he even says someday they’ll call you a shitty boss. That shows it at one point he was in her position, and is even letting her know that someday she’ll be a boss and people will treat her the same way he was treated. It’s a really great show and I can’t wait to watch it again. Great video🙌
Kicks Yo Very hard to go above and beyond when other people's work gets foisted on you because they know you'll do it. How is she supposed to have the time and energy to go the extra mile when she has more work?
Thank you for making a video about this. I watched it the day it came out on Netflix because I was wondering what the fuck it is and I instantly fell in love with it because it's genuinely great. And nobody's talking about it!
I noticed it while browsing Netflix like two weeks ago, checked it out, watched it in two days, and then like three days later everybody I know started posting about it on facespace.
it's funny how nobody seems to notice that resasuke is a pretty typical introverted aspie/HFA. bet he only understands irony on an analytical level and takes impeckably well informed care of his plants. that little scene, where he comes home after him and retsuko breaking up, makes me wish for a "space cadet" spin-off, that's highly unlikely to happen.
Cuda FX That's what I thought too. Considering the way he didn't pick up on any of the indirect cues Retsuko was trying to use, like "aren't you tired of walking?" or "it's cold out," I pegged him as ASD right away. (That or he's whacked out on canned coffee 24/7.)
Very noticeable. Especially his full blown lack of interest in her. He doesn't seem to have a concept or desire to date her and it's only his coworkers fantasy and plans that result in their date. He seems very happy with his plants.
I've been in Haida's shoes more times than I'd care to admit. He is also what I kinda strive to be: a genuinely good guy through actions instead words who really just wants to help his friends and see them be happy whether or not he gets anything out of it.
I think they did Resasuke dirty. The moral of that arc shouldn't have been that he was inattentive and 'too boring'. Most of the trouble she had with him came from being passive aggressive instead of outright with her needs. Instead of saying "my feet hurt, can we take a break" or "I'm cold, can I borrow your jacket" we get "you want to get some food and sit a while" and "crazy how cold it got". It feeds this idea that our partners should be mind readers and pick up on any subtle hints we drop, else they're an asshole. The arc should have been about resolving her larger issue (her inability to stand up for herself). Dumping Resasuke without taking any of the blame for how their relationship turned out was cheap in my opinion. Also I really wanted her to just be like "fucking do it then" when Ton threatens to fire her "eventually". It's clearly just a tactic to get her in line, I would have loved to see her call his bluff.
I don’t think that was really the problem. She would’ve overlooked that if she actually liked him, but he was boring. The decisive moments in the relationship was when he would only respond “yeah” while shopping and when he didn’t have a reaction after her metal song. That made her realize they didn’t even have anything in common to actually bond over
She's not that kind of character, she's more of a passive aggressive kind of character. She isn't one to be blunt about how she feels until she literally can't take it anymore, and lashes out at who she perceives as someone who has wronged her in some way.
This anime is honestly one of the best shows I’ve seen in a long awful while. The first few episodes of Aggretsuko seemed like it was going to a be a nice, innocent, cute little anime that’s very relatable. But after Retsuko meets Space Cadet, the show starts to get a lot more serious showing how much love or relationships can turn yourself around and change you. The last 3 episodes of season 1 is a experience that I will never forget. I love how even the Christmas special is part of the canon and has more to the continuation because I needed to learn more. I can’t wait for season 2.
I watched this whole show in one sitting in the first week it was released. I went in, expecting a meme or an alright comedy. What I got was better. You explained everything I love about this show and added more insight to it
Same here. I honestly didn't know what to expect. But I loved all the exaggerated facial expressions in the show. Overall I thought this show was sooo good!
I appreciate what Aggretsuko tries to do for it's audience. I don't see a lot of cartoons for adults that poke fun at the things that we all struggle with but explore it in a really cute and fun narrative style. Sometimes we need a dose of cute passive aggresive sarcasm to make our day. #goribestgirl
Sanrio actually made more mature products since the 70's, Chirin no suzu is still considered as far as I know one of the darkest children's movie in Japan at the point of being banned in some countries, here in Italy the movie has still yet to see the light of day despite being like 43 years old and Italy is a country that has always been highly influenced by Japanese animation since the early 80's, Jewelpet is also a show that took the route of being targeted to adults and kids alike, while it started as a toy franchise in 2008, Sanrio did notice how in 2009 the anime had a cult following between adults and adult males in general, becoming like MLP before FiM was even a thing, the second season especially got an OVA that was specifically made for adult fans after the request of seeing what happened to the characters after the end of the series, people always give praise to Gudetama and I've never understood its appeal, it's literally one punchline of being lazy and "I have no will to live" just to satisfy the internet girls with the whole "OMG so relatable, I'm so unique and special", Aggretsuko on the other hand is a way more dimensional character than Gudetama, I see the appeal in her and the anime is pretty good, but Gudetama?He's too one dimensional to be relatable, implying that lazy cute mascots have never been a thing...
manu villada It's as positive as Bojack Horseman instead that the main characters start in a better place than the ones of Bojack Horseman who have a lot more issues.
When I first started to watch this, I assumed it be some funny office anime. But, your essay really sums up all the heart and great character development that this anime surpised me with!
Recovery of an MMO Junkie is up on Crunchyroll from last fall, Wotakoi: Love is Hard for Otaku is airing on Amazon this season. I'd recommend them both.
And even though I have yet to watch Aggretsuko, this is now my favourite episode of Mother's Basement... and considering how much I freakng love the PSA's, welp that is an accomplishment.
I love kitty. But it has to do with the idea that you can be a whole person and uncompromising while still resulting as cute. A lot of people don't look too deeply at her because they only know her image but her story is one like retsuko. She is a girl who is satisfied with herself. And to be honest girls everywhere need kitty. We need that center in our lives.
have u done a review of the Christmas special btw? she says no. tho i think the secretary bird friend seems at the end to be encouraging them together (just at her on pace)
South Park isn't just animated visuals on an adult comedy. It takes full advantage of its visuals and designs all the time to further it's style and themes, along with the absurdist style. Also don't group it with Family Guy, if anything the other animated adult comedy is the Simpsons.
Mother's Basement South Park and Aggretsuko are extremely different, specially in the way they represent their themes, but neither of them can be compared to your average The Simpsons clone.
+alexandra galici As a circumcised male myself, there's nothing wrong with male circumcision at all. It doesn't impact my quality of life in any way whatsoever. All of the controversy surrounding the topic just boils down to people being grossed out by the practice & overreacting.
To be fair; Resasuke was pushed into the relationship by his coworker. He wasn't ignoring her out of malice. He spaced out so much that it's his office nickname.
I think my favorite character in this show is Ton. He's such a fascinating character to watch. Because on the surface he's a lazy, abusive boss drunk with power, but that's all an act. He says in Season 1 that it's because its how his bosses treated him so he feels compelled to pass it on that way, but I think that's a lie. I think he plays the hardass to both push his employees to be better and to sort of give them a common enemy to talk smack about behind his back. And the reason I believe this is because every single time when push comes to shove, he shows that he's willing to go to bat for his employees. ESPECIALLY for Retsuko. Like, that Calendar bit is all for show. He has no intention of firing Retsuko ever (unless he thinks it's for her own good). And when the busy season hits, he isn't sitting behind his desk angrily barking orders. He gets down in the trenches and more than pulls his weight in the office.
when cartoony mascot animals are more human than actual human characters from other anime
seriously
SAO
There's something almost poetic about that observation.
It’s the fact that they’re animals that makes them more human, because it makes us think about it and fill in the gaps. Kinda like how monsters are more scary when they’re unseen, since our mind fills in the gaps. That’s why Aesop’s Fables works so well with animals, because we are the ones who will actively fill in the gaps.
Facts.
After their rap-deathmetal showdown, I think it's implied that Ton lowkey thinks highly of Retsuko. Saying "One day, you'll be a shitty boss too" I felt reveals that he thinks Retsuko is the one most likely to rise to his level in the corporate ladder out of everyone in his department.
yeah that's a hell of a backwards compliment that shows he really respects her, in his own way. The fact that ton is so good at improv raps about coworkers he hates also implies that when he was younger he used the same coping method as retsuko, just replacing metal with rap.
Oh shit, I didn't even think about that lol.
I think that may also be why he makes her do so much work
Even when he knows it’s unreasonable
Yeah, I never thought about that. Albeit id di thought about how in the end what make him "hostile" toward Restuko is the potential he see in her(big hint for everybody, if your boss give lot of work to you is because he know YOU CAN DO IT PROPERLY- you know your work.) but her meek, as you pointed out self centered, attitude unnerve him and what put him on war territory is the notion that she is looking to quit, essentially meaning that she don't give a crap about her job, that he consider important for the company(also kudos for explaining the meaning of company or society). Eventually they do come to mutual understanding. Albeit they still are on two opposite battlefield so to speak. Also I think that, much like Washimi and Gori, see a little bit of his yougner selves in her (and this add to his bad mood). Damn i too I have many theories about these guys.
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I really don’t think that’s the case, I think it’s just the natural progression of an office job that if one person works long enough somewhere it’s enough to move up the ladder. A good example was my supervisor who wasn’t at all good at her job and regularly needed to be talked to even though her actions weren’t ill intended but the company needed a new supervisor so they just went with her because she was there for about 15 years
“Best Girl Fenneko”
You’re god damn right.
hell yea she is i wanna meet her Japanese va so baaad
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You're all doing it wrong! It's like this:
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Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha
Haida is the bestest best boy in any show ever.
He is quite a gem
Voice actor of daichi from devil survivor
Jaune Arc: Am I a joke to you?
_lol probably not a popular opinion but he's my best boi ever._
@@chrishansen1842 same my dude same, but at the same level
Yeah.
It's always nice to see media which takes these sorts of problems seriously, acknowledging that they're valid and that adults needing help to solve them is just normal.
Yep. The last thing my dad taught me was how to drive. Being an adult means pretending you know what you're doing.
[FAZE] FAZESGT.JOHNSON fake it till you make it
I actually like how Resasuke and Retsuko's relationship ended. I enjoyed seeing a failed relationship not necessarily being because one or both partners are terrible to each other, but more that one can't meet the other's needs. Resasuke will never be the ex that you talk about behind clenched teeth, he's just not right for her. As for him, as his cluelessness suggests, he may not be the sort of person who is ever interested in relationships, and kept things going with Retsuko because his coworker kept insisting upon it.
daffyphack exactly. This is not portrayed in media and anime enough. I thought it was brilliant and mature the show showed a relationship like this.
I especially like how Retsuko realized that Resasuke isn't who she was pretending he was. After suddenly turning into a death metal goddess and insulting him in his face, all he does is clap and ask what she wants to do next. While he is someone who does not care about Retsuko's true side, it's for the wrong reason: he doesn't actually understand what it means.
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It is rather unique, isn't it?
@@richardsantanna5398 and it's not something you usually see in this kind of media. And I love it.
I think Resasuke's plants also implies he's a "herbivore man" which is a japanese term for a man that's not actually looking for a partner nor cares that he doesn't have one; an indifference to relationships. which is kind of what he does when he only takes ritsuko out cause his coworker suggested it, and not really noticing anything during their date.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men
Yeah, he is not a thoughtless jerk at all.
Tbh i think he might be aromantic or somethin.
EYYY HI QINNI
I read Resasuke as more socially inept he's just not good with social cues.
Resasuke is how people see Retsuko from a outside perspective. He going through a lot of trouble because of him own flaws in a sector that does not fit his personality. He is also are tryng the best to fit in social pressure even if he does not understand why he needs a girlfriend. Resasuke is addtive to coffee because of stress. This similarity with retsuko is what make them have a moment in the bar. But the coffee bugs Retsuko mind.
After falling to connect with Resasuke through fantasy, she come to the conclusion he needs the same thing she does to get real with people, But Resasuke is not surprise. He really is a another person with others needs and really needs a coffee over a beer to get through life.
My one disagreement. I believe you were rather harsh on Risasukue. He's not really an inconsiderate jerk, he's just always off in his own world, and doesn't know the first thing about socializing. He's not a jerk, he's just incredibly oblivious.
Derray Productions You really butchered the spelling of his name. Ah, the Japanese language never fails to amuse me.
Derray Productions
Actually i was rewatching it with a friend. She has dissociative identity disorder and often is walking around trying to just function normally. Between remembering to eat and being an honor student shes often off in her own little world and wont notice anything unless you actually say “hey im hungry you got any food”. Shes not actually inconsiderate, shes just not there in the moment.
We actually kind of realized he was similar to her in a way. Kind of recoloring his actions. He did not want to date, he just wanted to be seen as a normal person. And normal people date. He also did not want to disappoint anyone, he knew he was unfit for it - but his friend wanted him to date, and she liked him. He was just going with the flow and hopping not to drown.
But at end of day, his work, a few friends, and his plants is about as much as he can handle. And he can not fully handle that even some times.
Hes not a bad person, he just cant focus on the things at hand.
I whole-heartedly agree.
Glad to hear that i wasn't the only person who thought that.
I think he may be on the autism spectrum. He doesn't seem to grasp social cues and he seems to do awkward things without caring what other think. When he saw the ferris wheel, he was so focused on it that he literally walked through the water fountain lol
So this series started off as a bunch of small shorts that you'd expect to see between tv shows. The hippo character, Megumi, had one episode that meant a lot to me, where Retsuko was feeling under the weather. Megumi came over to her house to check on her, make sure that everything around the house needed to be done, but because it was her first time actually being there, she had to keep asking the ill Retsuko, "Hey, where are your pots? Where are your cleaning supplies?" It got to a point where Retsuko was about to belt out like death metal, but she was so ill that she just had a coughing fit.
When Megumi leaves that day, she leaves Retsuko with a hot pot of soup full of the necessities for curing a cold. The episode ends with Retsuko commenting that it tastes pretty good.
For those of us that have seen the original anime, this is like giving it a higher budget and allowing for even greater storytelling than a five minute block could provide.
yah.. the short eps and longer ones are both great.
And the protein guy... they totally missed an opportunity there.
I thought her name was kabae!
I think Resasuke isnt intentionally a jerk. He was basically pushed into a relationship he doesnt seem emotionally ready for. Which i guess makes it more depressing at the end for him. Im impressed the show got me to go from being hostile and disliking a character so much to actually sympathizing with them...which happens to three or four characters in two and a half hours, while humanizing even more. Incredible!
i was thinking exactly the same, it was clear that he didn't have the intention to date Retsuko, yet he's directly told by his workmate that "he must have a girlfriend", and it is clear he was not truly enjoying the whole thing
Kaiser Crimson i think Manumaru was well intentioned-maybe he thought Resasuke needed someone to keep him grounded? But Retsuko just isnt the type to enjoy burdening herself with all the emotional labor in a relationship, like most people.
I was about to say the same thing. I don't think the ending was depressing for him, but rather he was happy to be out of that relationship. That's the impression I got anyway.
mitkitty Yeah. Usually, when a show makes the "bad boyfriend " character they make him an abusive asshole. This guy isn't a monster, he just can't give her what she wants because he lives in his own head too much. It's a subtle touch that many other shows rush right past in their need to hammer home the message of not setting got the wrong guy.
mitkitty I know it's stupid but when he walked into his house full of plants I felt really bad. As it's clear he has socializing problems as seen on his date and has only been able to communicate with the only "people" that he understands his plants when he said "I'm back". It's also really good symbolism for the state of men in Japan usually single and working lacking social skills or the drive to really make friends or have a relationship. As Japan has a serious problem of really low birth rate. This is why I personally loved his character but hey Mr.Ton is in my top 3 favorite character in the show so I have a strange taste in characters.
The new animal crossing looks great
boops4lunch you slave away at work to payoff your house.
And no creepy undertones.
Dude nit gonna lie you just won everything
Tomnook would be the ceo
boops4lunch I wish
The Office: The Anime
Omg yes
No God please God no!!! Noooo!!!
IDENTITY THEFT IS NOT A JOKE JIM
the office had *depression?*
No. This is actually good. The Office is trash. lol
Ahem. Komiya is not a weasel. He's a meerkat. You know, one of those hyper, annoying guys fixated on keeping the team together no matter how dysfunctional it is or how much everyone has to sacrifice for it, while working through the hierarchy to be as close to the pack leader as possible.
simples!
Komiya is voiced by Todd Haberkorn in the English dub. He’s best known for voicing Natsu from Fairy Tail, Death the Kid from Soul Eater, Italy from Hetalia, and Ling from Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood.
I thought Weasels were the worst.
Then you reminded me that Meerkats exist.
So... Its timon and pumba
Princess Jello Ahmagerd.
Stuff like this makes me wish there was a special age rating for movies/series meant for adults but not containing any extreme violence or swearing.
Children could watch this but I doubt they would find it interesting while adults might gloss over it due to it's childish seeming visuals.
Yeah, there need to be more "adult" cartoons that are "mature" but not sexually explicit or vulgar. I hate that both those words have become innuendo for media containing sex, violence, other content inappropriate for children.
I’m a teen (16) and I’m afraid of bringing this up with my parents and let me tell you I needed this show, it’s actually surprisingly accurate to my school life currently
i'm a child and i find this pretty interesting-
Sally Is Best girl cool, actually recently my 12 year old brother started watching it too
@Conrad Kuntz But it's not overly vulgar like most adult cartoons.
We need more of these kinds of shows. I can't adult for shit, teach me animation industry!
Spoiler: two whole generations before you have *never* actually figured out how to adult. -)
Ask your parents what they've been doing during the Disco craze! Don't expect a truthful answer. ))
@@triprs4896 every generation dude. All adults there are never were adults before, so they actually don't know much either. Dunno if made sense ._.
@@thecleitom9497
As someone from the future and after three seasons in during the show, what you said is definitely on point (and part of why I love the show)! ^^
@@Scarshadow666 I struggle to understand my own comment now, but yay c:
@@Scarshadow666 yess
I like how Ton tells Retsuko that one day she'll be the one people are calling shitty boss. It sounds like an insult, but at the same time he's revealing that he thinks she has what it takes to grind up the corporate ladder and take over what was once his position. It also shows that he may be acting the way he does because he feels that his position isolates him from others, so he feels out of touch and lashes out at those around him. Sure, he's a jerk, but he may be that way because he feels alone. Decades of work in a toxic environment have jaded him into becoming the same. It makes his character sort of tragic, really.
Misha Leontiev In the end, everyone's a bit like that. The world isn't so black and white and how people turns out depends on how they have been treated in their surroundings.
"This is what strong 3Dimensional humans look like, flat 2D animals" - Geoff Thew
Damn, i dunno if it's just me, but this quote felt really deep for some reason...
Flat is justice!
I’m just saying this: Haida deserves to be protected and loved
FACTS FACTS FACTS
PREACH
Amen to that!!!!!!
YES YES YES YES AMEN
FACTS
*sends this to everyone who is like “you’re almost 30 and you still watch cartoons???”* gonna binge this today :)
"I sure fuckin' do, sport. Wanna have a Jojo marathon?"
Yinz are my people 😭❤️😂
"Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional." -Mantra of every otaku, gamer, and general all-around geek everywhere.
If anyone drops that "cartoons for kids" thing on me, I normally give them the Usagi Drop anime (not manga, do not mistake the two.)
Unless I'm feeling utterly sadistic, and I give them Grave of the Fireflies instead.
Here's the thing, Since the Drinking party, Ton has Out right told her, He respects her, thinks she's good enough to actually make it, and is hard on her to keep her sharp enough to deal with it. When he's Grilling her for who turned him in, He asks out right if she's going to Quit, or keep at it. She says keep at it and From then on he pushes her even harder than he did form the beginning, leading to "I'm not a nice guy, I'm a bastard But-"
Having dealt with "his kind" before, he is in his twisted way, Grooming her to take his place. And for those who missed it in the Eng Version, He lied when he said he didn't remember the party.
Dram Springfeald oh!😨
I know right!! He's out right suggested he was Trained "Military Style" and is Training her too. if she can take his shit and walk, there's nothing her underlings could do to her.
You are correct, but how'd you know ton lied about forgetting? What tipped you off?
Just an assumption, and my own Fat Bastard Drinking problem, but, every time he talks to her in person, he's telling her what she NEEDS. and "I remember" would have done nothing good for her... I know it's bit baseless but it FEELS like that was his game. (I may or may not have had to tell a similar lie)
I'm glad you said what I observed about Ton and Retsuko's relationship. Hell the dude killed her with his rap and her only response was raw emotion and he accepted it.
I really liked how showing Resasuke's apartment full of healthy looking plants allowed the viewer to see that he wasn't as inattentive as everyone at work truly viewed him. It was really cute
Aggretsuko, the show that'll awaken something within you. Something you may not have wanted. I, of course, am talking about a love for death metal.
Just Some Guy with a Mustache heh, come on man, we can all tell what you’re really talking about, heck the VA for best boy Haida had an encounter with those awakened people
gameb9oy his VA is literally haida (i mean his personality) he is chill and nice af
haida's va discovering vore is something i never knew i needed in my life
James May it’s amazing
I wonder if it'll also awaken the inner furry in some people
It’s weird.
I was relieved when Retsuko’s crush for Resasuke faded and she decided what she wanted.
However, I relate to Resasuke on a ton of levels. I never cared for dating or relationships. Literally the only reason for it is because “everyone needs a girlfriend”. I am socially... I don’t even know what to call it. Inept? I find it extremely hard to hold a basic conversation with someone. I can barely start one. I usually give short answers like “yes, uh-huh, I’m fine” and I know how repetitive it can get but I don’t know how to improve socially without it being forced. Like Resasuke, I’m more comfortable talking over text mostly because I can change what I say when typing. I tend to be pushed around by the few friends I have mostly because I’d rather not say no. I daydream a lot because I get bored easily and have trouble focusing.
I wouldn’t say he’s a jerk because like him, I have trouble reading cues that other people give off. I don’t know if I would be incorrect in a situation like that.
idk
I not gonna lie I liked that character too, I was like "I hope this doesn't hurt him to bad" when they broke up cause dude not a bad guy just not for her.
Yes
I mean you probably still want to be in a relationship. Just bad at initiating one
Well, shit... you just mostly described me too.
Yeah same thing for me
Oof, Haida is all to real. From the situation he's in, the way he goes about it, how he acts, even to the fucking Punk rock scene. I'm pretty sure I have that exact jacket. But goddamn, when he mentioned the whole "liking the idea of her" it really hit home. It's been 5 years now and I still love that girl to death. Maybe I'm in Retsuko's situation and I just don't know it. The show paints it all really well by letting the personalities and the situations they are put in do the talking. It feels as if I've met all of these people before. Its honestly some of the best writing I've seen in a while.
I thought I was the only one that absolutely loved haida's character. He's just so *real* . 3 years ago I was the same person as Haida, in the same situation as Haida. Stuck liking a girl to afraid to say it and ending up losing to a space cadet with there being nothing I can do about it because just how in the show, haida was never considered, neither was I.
I was like Haida but one day I did get the nerve to say something one day......but nothing came of it, and yet she is still in my head.
We were friends for a long time but I had developed a thing for her but then she got with some asshole for awhile and then ended up leaving her. After a few months I told her but she wasn't interested in dating friends, which I am fine with regardless of what she said we would still be friends because I care about her a lot.
However Im glad in a way she said no, I have learned over time that I shouldn't be with someone. All I do is fuck things up for either myself or others, and I utterly hate myself everyday. I don't see any redeeming factors at all. I leave not impact in anyone's lives, its even a fucking miracle that I even have a handful of friends.
Jericho Strayker I relate and disagree with that notion
He's "realism" in character form.
It is worth noting that Hello Kitty has been losing market share over the past few years. Her old audience just grew up and aren't interested in the more idealistic view of life. They've been looking for more relatable characters, and after Gudetama blew up, Sanrio realized it as well.
The only thing better than cute things acting cute is cute things acting distinctly not cute.
It's the kind of "I should hate everything you do and say, but you're so damn cute" moment, which I really enjoy when they work.
I'd say cute like in not giving the characters disproportionate features in a borderline desperate attempt to make them look cute and still give me a smirk from time to time with clever dialogues and such.
Happy Tree Friends?
DustyO'Rusty Ah, a man of culture, I see.
That description is the entire reason why my favorite final fantasy game, despite playing and beating a ton of the numbered series is the crystal chronicals game on the GameCube. Super deformed cutie heroes running what's essentially a second edition D&D campaign on dragon's keep. It's the most metal square enix has taken the a game with chibi anime heroes in a while.
This show has genuinely helped me through depression and the seething rage that adulthood can induce. It's taught me a lot and I'd recommend it as a "what-to-expect" for viewers of all ages; particularly those about to enter the work stage of their life. You will receive some insightful ideas on how the world and its inhabitants function.
7:20 "Best girl Fenneko" Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.
Pauvlychenko Is "man of culture" some new slang for "Frequently mispronounces Washimi"? :33
Is it possible that all the protagonist girls are Best Girls? Honestly, I've never watched a series where I literally can't decide which one I like the most, for different reasons.
true normally you can tell by how much depth they havebut man if personality were boobs they would all have d cups
I may be a 6'3" burly man, but I'd put a Fenneko keychain on my backpack no sweat
BenSeawalker You are a brave man.
You did it again.
Time to check this out.
Thought it was a kids show but now I know better.
also look around the net for the shorts that came like 2 years ago. many of the characters appears, but the shorts are only about ritsuko stressing and singing metal
Not just 2 years ago. They actually ended quite recently, just before I found out about the story version.
You gotta really look at the age rating on stuff, this is definitely not a kid show
My niece watches it, she knows better then to swear and I use the Japanese Dub
My niece watches it, she knows better then to swear and I use the Japanese Dub
Kinda bummed this came out when it did because Kabae (the one you called Megumi) got a huge development in the second season when she's the only one that's able to get to Anai and ended up becoming this mom character whom I treasure so much.
I got the impression that there really won't be anyone that will eventually date Resasuke. Not because of some fault of his, but because he honestly didn't seem interested in the idea of dating in the first place. And it's a good message to put forth, really, that a person doesn't have to date to be a complete person.
Yep. That lil' Red Panda is Asexual as fuuuuuck.
ZeonTwilight You don't have to be "asexual" to not date, not end up getting married, not be interested in a romantic relationship, etc. That kind of thinking is just another way of putting people in a box.
I'm well aware there are a ton of reasons that one may not be interested in dating both within one's control and outside of one's control. Personally, he vibes Asexual to me, but you know what, you're right, I really shouldn't label others even if they are just characters in a show.
I feel like making the characters animals and anthropomorphising them really showcases their human qualities (like you said) and really makes them ironically symbolic.
That scene with Mister Ton giving Restsuko advice is amazing.
I remember that
"Tom is the most unlikeable character in the entire cast..."
No, no. At least he has some humanity. Even some skill and use. HIs asskissing weasle flunkie is the most unlikeable person because he has yet to show ANY redeeming quality."
SquirrelSword His skill is that he has a great evil princess laugh*
That may be true. Like good LORD he pisses me off to no end. But what if that's on purpose? What if he was made to be that way only to hit us with something particularly tragic about him further down the road?
I hope they take that route with the weasel, I really do.
Retsuko's friend is a bit of an asshole as well, in one of the episode she pretty much just says "Be responsible so people like me don't have to be responsible ourselves" that's pretty selfish
BurntBacon You know, that was how I felt, but then again retsuko actually envied her way of living. On the other entrepreneurs are by nature responsible, putting their all and risking everything into their baby. Also, she seemed interested in work with the startup, but not really set on a career.
I always thought he was a meerkat
Not gonna lie, this show kind of reminds me of the message One Punch Man gives: Life is hard, and not even a dream job can help make your life happy and self fulfilling (nor do they exist to), but the people around you can help you get through the day.
I'm pretty sure the message One Punch Man gives is: Without challenge life would be boring. Also dream jobs do exist
Sean Taylor Take messages as you will, but Saitama did take on the challenge of becoming a hero only to find it not that fulfilling as he thought it was hyped up to be. The system is incredibly flawed and he doesn't feel anything from being a hero because there is no longer a challenge for him now that he has the strength (and is still ignored by the failed system all because he failed a written test when getting his license, thus lowering his rank, ignoring his god like capabilities).
It's only when he's surrounded by people he grows to care about or people he has affected (like Mumen Rider, who is both in one) that he feels a sense of fulfillment or happiness in life. It's also one of the few times he see him smile, and not out of sarcasm.
The job of being a hero wasn't all it cracked up to be, and that's the case of real life dream jobs. A job is a job, even if you dreamed of it your whole life. Saitama got lost in the fantasy of being a hero after leaving his previous job that made him miserable. He still does heroic things, but he's pretty desperate to feel something for the job again. He only looks up when surrounded by people who are genuine to him.
So take what you will from the show, but I am going to have to disagree with you on how it was taken. But if it motivates you or anything, have at it.
"he doesn't feel anything from being a hero because there is no longer a challenge for him now that he has the strength" - This is literally the point I made. Saitama wanted to be the strongest but when he achieved that goal he found that nothing he fought offered him any sort of a challenge. When the show starts, he's merely existing and bored half to death and he wasn't even a hero yet. He only became a hero after Genos told him about the organization. His reason for wanting to join was he wanted to be popular like the top heroes, which was only a shallow "band-aid" solution for his utter boredom with life.
Also a dream job isn't some perfect scenario where everything goes right. A dream job is a job that allows you to live life the way you want while earning a living doing something you love.
Sean Taylor You told me how you took the anime but it also sounded like you were trying to correct me with your wording, so I stated my argument. We agree he feels a no challenge, but we disagree about how that is handled in the series.
Seriously though, go with what you see. We don't have to agree on this.
Sean Taylor King's life has no challenge and he doesn't seem bored or unhappy.
For children ages 20+ you say? Sounds like the show for me!
Sure....."children." 😂
More like children 5+
I watched this last year. I was 17. I didn’t think this was 20 and up. It’s kinda wholesome for an adult cartoon.
It's actually age TV-14
@@SassafrasTee7366 It's actually age TV-14
On a side note, hyienas live in matriarchical groups, so if Retsuko and Haida do get together Retsuko's gonna be the dom.
:3c
>:3c
negative man Oh God! Avatar checks out?
!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's the truth! Females do outrank males in Hyena Societies
It's kind of ironic how many of the shows with the most "human" charcaters in the last few years are about anthropomorphic talking animals (Aggretsuko, Bojack Horseman).
It kinda shows that in order to make characters that show human emotion, we sometimes need to take a step back from the 'Human' aspect.
It's actually pretty common, humans are very complex, and you cannot go much about them, cause superficially we're pretty much the same face. With Anthropomorphic beings is easier to see their intentions cause we usually have a general idea of what a character that it's a pig can act like, or a snake, then now that you have a clear picture of said characters is up to the writer to make it work.
Another example that comes to my mind is the video game Night in the Woods. I actually see some similarities between that and this show. Maybe not plot-wise or presentation-wise, but the concept is the same and they both have a very minimalistic artstyle.
Honestly, I was amazed at the show's writing. Spot on.
I binged this with a friend and we kept exclaiming that this was too relatable, and the Retsko is literally us. She is a pretty realistic character
how?
this feels as relatable as damned ken from fist of the north star.
iota-09 If you dont find it relatable you probably aren't a mid to late 20 something who worked at a job with a horrible boss. Where you just have to put your head down and go along with the bullshit because you have to pay your bills, and the job market is uncertain so leaving is hard.
Crescent Moon yeah, and i can't see myself resorting to that and bowing down my head given what my life led to in these 22 years.
I guess i'll just keep be unable to appreciate it.
iota-09 We all have diffrent expirences 😁
Give it a few years, Im almost 30, and Ive worked some great jobs, and some really shitry ones. Some times you take what you get.
ah yeah, thats.. it's a bit different, if we were talking about my brother i could see that taking place in a couuple years, but e? yeah no, simply for the fact i get an invalidity pension.
What I enjoy the most about this show is how much of a perfect example it is when explaining to someone how animation isn't just for kids
Haida is fucking wonderful. I don't think he was a "Nice guy" but an actual nice guy. The way he was worried for Ritsuko was from the heart.
She's not a cat, she's a cat shaped girl.
Quiet Wyatt actually, she's a girl in a cat costume
Haha I almost forgot Hello Kitty ISN'T a cat! XD
But... does that mean the animals in this show.... are actually NOT animals too???
Trisha Yuu idk, are they even real? Are they drug induced hallucinations? P.T.S.D? Metaphor for communism? Smoking commercial? Who knows
And with that comment, rule 34 images doubled
She’s the most human red panda I’ve ever seen.
Fenneko found her way into my heart the second she popped on screen, but it got SO much better.....worse? :P when the mixer episode and it's aftermath happened. Like I'm a fan of fennec foxes and characters based on them to begin with, so I was doomed from the start, and then her social media stalking/detective work and the deadpan humor sealed the deal...but it was so...I don't even know the right adjective to use, but I loved seeing her show a softer caring side when she gets apologetic for letting Haida down by not keeping Retsuko from finding someone to date at the mixer. And then right at the end when she leaves the two of them alone in the hospital room and goes all 'just tell each other how ya feel, ya twits'. Gold.
Watching this after watching season 1 2 and 3 is so shocking. You realize how spot on and right this dude was with what he said, Especially the part (A bit of a spoiler coming up) where he said retsuko and haida go to karaoke. Insane dude
You know... three minutes into this video I was just about to stop watching it and never give this anime another glance... I'm glad I continued watching :-)
Good on you, it really is a great series. I just finished it a week before this vid came out, a friend let me know about it, and he got me hooked simply by sharing the clip of Ton and Retsuko having their drunken music battle....after saying 'This is by the same people who did Hello Kitty. Prepare to be amazed' XD
I don't think Resasuke is a jerk, he's just a bit of a air headed daydreamer who is so trapped inside his own head that he forgets the simplest of things. Yes, he appears inconsiderate, but not on purpose. He just has a hard time reading others and empathizing with them. I sort of headcanons him as autistic, as I'm autistic myself and I can relate to some of his traits: his interest taking up most of his room, his trouble with keeping up with people who expect him to read their mind, and him daydreaming so much he's practically sleeping with his eyes open. He's still nice when he understands whats going on, like helping Retsuko when she's drunk
I don't even think it's fair to call him inconsiderate. He wasn't the source of Retsuke's pain. Retsuke was too timid to be forthright about her needs, and Resasuke took her statements literally.
True very true
i havent watched this show but ur comment may also suggest that resasuke may just be apathetic or socially anxious (?)
She was also just as disinterested and unattentive to the 'real him' as he was to her, for different reasons, of course, but she quite literally saw him look completely different from what he actually looks like the entire time.
Neither of them were a good match for each other.
The funny thing about the show is that none of the episodes (as far as I remember) have any explicit gore or sexuality, or even jokes that cover those topics. It’s entirely a mature anime because it covers topics children wouldn’t be able to to relate to. That already makes this a top tier adult anime.
Haida is possibly Ben Diskin's best voice role yet
and is none too pleased about all the gay smut lol
Umm...you do know that he gave his voice for Numbuh 1 in Kid's Next Door, right?
I said POSSIBLY. Also, yay! Another Berseria fan!
The poor dude discovered what the internet is after voicing Haida though
Chill down mate what the fuck
Also... Tom is right, Retsuko should have use the 45 degrees angle.
That was the moment Ton became the most relatable character.
Gustavo Wadas Lopes it amazes me how many people get this wrong.
Domingo Infante I always wondered if that was better, they don't actually teach this stuff.
I talk from experience. It's better to read. Try it with 3 pieces of paper each. You will notice the diference.
Alternate title:
Aggretsuko - Arthur got a job.
This looks more interesting that what I expected. I want a backpack with this character in it.
IN it or ON it???
Vicente Ortega Rubilar I too would like to kidnap an undersized girl with animal ears and carry her off in my backpack.
...
Did I misunderstand what you meant?
Hot topic has patches for 5 bucks!
yES
James Schultz what? I’m confused
Regarding Retsuko asking Haida if he'd want her to work, I honestly thought she was just asking him as a point of reference of if ANY man would want his wife to work. Since he's the only man she's on friendly terms with. She got her answer from him and walked away. I do think she did this selfishly, but I didn't think she was asking him about if THEY were married.
That's a valid interpretation. But she also specifically asks him, "if we were married, would you still want me to work?" While I don't think she intended it the way it came out, the wording she used was pretty important to Haida. It was pretty thoughtless of her, but that's kinda the point.
I was confused about this as well until I realised that the dub says "if we were married" but in the sub it's "if you were married" or something similar. It totally changes the context in my opinion
At the same time I don't think Retsuko was aware of Haida's crush, she was just posing a hypothetical with a platonic male friend in her view.
When Aggretsuko first came out it actually hit me in the feels and motivated me to get out of my dead end job! Thank you Aggretsuko!
20 years old
Children
Something doesn't add up
sounds like the cast of a hentai to me.
Mother's Basement Yeah basically
I'm not like regular teens.
I'm 27.
Legal Loli boi
Mother's Basement Dude be careful this guy is everywhere it's not natural he might be a demon.😨
"best girl fenneco"
Welp, you earned my thumbs up.
fenneko's laugh though
is just
gold
Younger people watch cartoons that are directed at older people and older people watch cartoons that are directed at younger people.
"Animeforolderpeople"
Just Some Guy without a Mustache Did you even watch the video?
"...it's structured like a children's cartoon while tackling issues that apply to the lives of people aged 20 and up."
Please watch the video.
You know that's funny you said that... Martin Scorsese said the same thing about movies that young people see old people in movies and now the another way around that old people see young people on the pictures instead... funny thing right ...! 😁😎🎬
That actually makes tons of sense for stuff like South Park, Rick and Morty or Family Guy that most of the viewers are teens, but I don't think a teen can relate to Aggretsuko themes like an adult.
One of my favorite parts with Ton is when he’s rapping and he says that Retsuko isn’t that great of a worker! What’s great about that is that when you step back and really look at it, you realize that he’s right. She’s just kind of getting through things she’s not going above and beyond at her job. Of course he still hate him but at the same time you realize that he’s right. And after she destroys him with death metal, he even says someday they’ll call you a shitty boss. That shows it at one point he was in her position, and is even letting her know that someday she’ll be a boss and people will treat her the same way he was treated. It’s a really great show and I can’t wait to watch it again. Great video🙌
Kicks Yo Very hard to go above and beyond when other people's work gets foisted on you because they know you'll do it.
How is she supposed to have the time and energy to go the extra mile when she has more work?
I should watch this.
It looks like it was animated in Flash, and I'm the last person alive who still likes Flash.
Matt Roszak no you're not
I exist
I too love flash started with NG ^^
I too love flash started with NG ^^
You better not be coding EBF5 in flash, considering they're phasing it out.
Browser game's aren't my main market anymore, it doesn't really matter if Flash stops working there.
Thank you for making a video about this. I watched it the day it came out on Netflix because I was wondering what the fuck it is and I instantly fell in love with it because it's genuinely great. And nobody's talking about it!
Watsuda I saw everybody flipping out about it and I thought they were talking about the webtoon and decided to watch this. I was pleasantly surprised.
But... everyone's talking about it
I noticed it while browsing Netflix like two weeks ago, checked it out, watched it in two days, and then like three days later everybody I know started posting about it on facespace.
He probably meant on youtube, because MT was the first to make a vid about Aggretsuko out of all my subscriptions
it's funny how nobody seems to notice that resasuke is a pretty typical introverted aspie/HFA. bet he only understands irony on an analytical level and takes impeckably well informed care of his plants. that little scene, where he comes home after him and retsuko breaking up, makes me wish for a "space cadet" spin-off, that's highly unlikely to happen.
Cuda FX That's what I thought too. Considering the way he didn't pick up on any of the indirect cues Retsuko was trying to use, like "aren't you tired of walking?" or "it's cold out," I pegged him as ASD right away. (That or he's whacked out on canned coffee 24/7.)
YES THANK YOU!!!!! I was looking for a comment like this!!! ❤❤❤
Very noticeable. Especially his full blown lack of interest in her. He doesn't seem to have a concept or desire to date her and it's only his coworkers fantasy and plans that result in their date. He seems very happy with his plants.
I've been in Haida's shoes more times than I'd care to admit. He is also what I kinda strive to be: a genuinely good guy through actions instead words who really just wants to help his friends and see them be happy whether or not he gets anything out of it.
I think they did Resasuke dirty. The moral of that arc shouldn't have been that he was inattentive and 'too boring'. Most of the trouble she had with him came from being passive aggressive instead of outright with her needs. Instead of saying "my feet hurt, can we take a break" or "I'm cold, can I borrow your jacket" we get "you want to get some food and sit a while" and "crazy how cold it got". It feeds this idea that our partners should be mind readers and pick up on any subtle hints we drop, else they're an asshole. The arc should have been about resolving her larger issue (her inability to stand up for herself). Dumping Resasuke without taking any of the blame for how their relationship turned out was cheap in my opinion.
Also I really wanted her to just be like "fucking do it then" when Ton threatens to fire her "eventually". It's clearly just a tactic to get her in line, I would have loved to see her call his bluff.
sorapokeball
It’s like a real life bad relationship
I don’t think that was really the problem. She would’ve overlooked that if she actually liked him, but he was boring. The decisive moments in the relationship was when he would only respond “yeah” while shopping and when he didn’t have a reaction after her metal song. That made her realize they didn’t even have anything in common to actually bond over
She's not that kind of character, she's more of a passive aggressive kind of character. She isn't one to be blunt about how she feels until she literally can't take it anymore, and lashes out at who she perceives as someone who has wronged her in some way.
If it was Washimi, she'd do what she said an kick Resasuke to the curve.
Knowing her, she'd literally KICK him to the curve with those powerful legs..
Joe Fandome Which is why I was hoping for more character growth, but it was only season one after all
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This anime is honestly one of the best shows I’ve seen in a long awful while. The first few episodes of Aggretsuko seemed like it was going to a be a nice, innocent, cute little anime that’s very relatable. But after Retsuko meets Space Cadet, the show starts to get a lot more serious showing how much love or relationships can turn yourself around and change you. The last 3 episodes of season 1 is a experience that I will never forget. I love how even the Christmas special is part of the canon and has more to the continuation because I needed to learn more. I can’t wait for season 2.
I watched this whole show in one sitting in the first week it was released. I went in, expecting a meme or an alright comedy. What I got was better. You explained everything I love about this show and added more insight to it
Same here. I honestly didn't know what to expect. But I loved all the exaggerated facial expressions in the show. Overall I thought this show was sooo good!
Nice to see Aggressive Retsuko getting some of that appreciation. It was almost non-existent bc no one cared to watch it. Retsuko is relatable too.
SaltyLee I plan on watching the series now, it looks really good
This show was surprisingly good. I want more.
I appreciate what Aggretsuko tries to do for it's audience. I don't see a lot of cartoons for adults that poke fun at the things that we all struggle with but explore it in a really cute and fun narrative style. Sometimes we need a dose of cute passive aggresive sarcasm to make our day. #goribestgirl
Asiah Norman you should probably go and watch Dilbert, you can find all the episodes online on Kisscartoon.
Sanrio actually made more mature products since the 70's, Chirin no suzu is still considered as far as I know one of the darkest children's movie in Japan at the point of being banned in some countries, here in Italy the movie has still yet to see the light of day despite being like 43 years old and Italy is a country that has always been highly influenced by Japanese animation since the early 80's, Jewelpet is also a show that took the route of being targeted to adults and kids alike, while it started as a toy franchise in 2008, Sanrio did notice how in 2009 the anime had a cult following between adults and adult males in general, becoming like MLP before FiM was even a thing, the second season especially got an OVA that was specifically made for adult fans after the request of seeing what happened to the characters after the end of the series, people always give praise to Gudetama and I've never understood its appeal, it's literally one punchline of being lazy and "I have no will to live" just to satisfy the internet girls with the whole "OMG so relatable, I'm so unique and special", Aggretsuko on the other hand is a way more dimensional character than Gudetama, I see the appeal in her and the anime is pretty good, but Gudetama?He's too one dimensional to be relatable, implying that lazy cute mascots have never been a thing...
The Dream Land Otaking I like gudetama because I have chronic depression and that fucking egg is absolutely saying the things I think at times. Lol
"Its a very human show"
>All the characters are animals
I suppose that's the irony of it all. I'm sure that had to be the plan from the beginning.
Same thing with bojackhorseman
Same thing in Beastar.
persona 3 ost huh ...
i see you're a man of culture as well
Dlimix92 I thought that was persona 4 ost?
Someone should go back and watch his Persona videos, cuz he hasn't exactly hidden his love for Persona music lol
yep, p3 and p4 ost ^^
3? It is 4
There’s also some Persona 4 music!
So it's like a healthy version of bojack horseman..
more like hello kitty gets a job.
Hello Kitty? More like Hello Depression
manu villada It's as positive as Bojack Horseman instead that the main characters start in a better place than the ones of Bojack Horseman who have a lot more issues.
Season 4 has Bojack out of his funk and make changes to improve his life, and ends the season happier
Finally someone said it! When I watched this anime, I couldn’t help but notice the similarities between the two shows.
You know that this is a good anime....
**When even their animal cast act more human then actual humans in other anime**
When I first started to watch this, I assumed it be some funny office anime. But, your essay really sums up all the heart and great character development that this anime surpised me with!
Having “I’ll face myself” play while explaining how Retsuko must confront her reality was a nice touch 👍🏽
"life is hard and there are no easy outs of that"
me holding a gun to my head: That's where you are wrong kiddo
That's a cheat code... Please share it
But unless it's America it's hard to get.
Also, wouldn't a noose be better?
@@cuturtimeshort1450 yea, noose is a cheap way.
Hey are you still alive? 😅
Who *doesn't* have a thing for beleaguered office women?
Vito C Who knows I actually believe the answer is that everyone loves office women but maybe its just us
Right? They're some of the most skilled, and have no time to waste with lollygagging.
Can anyone tell me what the names of the other shows he was referencing there? That are some of his other recent favorites about office ladies?
Recovery of an MMO Junkie is up on Crunchyroll from last fall, Wotakoi: Love is Hard for Otaku is airing on Amazon this season. I'd recommend them both.
Otaku ni koi wa muzukashii and Net-juu no Susume
And even though I have yet to watch Aggretsuko, this is now my favourite episode of Mother's Basement... and considering how much I freakng love the PSA's, welp that is an accomplishment.
I hope you would able to do a review on Aggretsuko season 2. It's really deep in many different ways.
He needs to watch seasons 1-3
Clearly the best character is the yoga teacher.
Gabriel Andrade PROTEIN!
Prooooooteeeeeeen
First thing: Protein. Second thing: Protein. Third, Fourth and Fifth: More protein!
That man is an enlightened sage!
we need a movie about the PROTEIN guy
truly inspiring
Ah....i think i need to watch this anime to see if I remember how to make friends with people...
HAIDA IS BEST BOY!!!!!
Yesssssssss
FACTS
Yeee
Bring on season 2
adam hewitt
Next year!
Well Season 2 is coming May 31
Hello Kitty was kinda creepy to me, but I can see her appeal. Heavy metal Retsuko is cuter IMO.
SamuraiFighterChick as a kid i prefered my melody much more
I love kitty. But it has to do with the idea that you can be a whole person and uncompromising while still resulting as cute. A lot of people don't look too deeply at her because they only know her image but her story is one like retsuko. She is a girl who is satisfied with herself. And to be honest girls everywhere need kitty. We need that center in our lives.
I just never got why Hello Kitty has a yellow nose. It makes no sense and I've never been able to find a reason.
have u done a review of the Christmas special btw?
she says no.
tho i think the secretary bird friend seems at the end to be encouraging them together (just at her on pace)
Fenneko best grill of course, good job Geoff
you goddam right :D
South Park isn't just animated visuals on an adult comedy. It takes full advantage of its visuals and designs all the time to further it's style and themes, along with the absurdist style.
Also don't group it with Family Guy, if anything the other animated adult comedy is the Simpsons.
this is fair, and I absolutely love south park, but at the same time it's a very different kind of cartoon from aggretsuko
Mother's Basement
South Park and Aggretsuko are extremely different, specially in the way they represent their themes, but neither of them can be compared to your average The Simpsons clone.
Martin Txiki Well, the first 8 years or so of the Simpsons anyway... At this point its just Family Guy with the vulgarity taken out.
All three of them are ass though and way past due on their time
+alexandra galici As a circumcised male myself, there's nothing wrong with male circumcision at all. It doesn't impact my quality of life in any way whatsoever. All of the controversy surrounding the topic just boils down to people being grossed out by the practice & overreacting.
For some reason 20+ looks a lot more innocent than 18+
It's actually age TV-14
Lashing out from being fed up at work and metal music? I need to check this anime out!
Radical video, my man.
"Nice Guy"TM might be the greatest joke I've ever seen from one of your videos.
THUMBS UP!
This is the only anime I’ve seen where the relationship between the main characters sucks and they responsibly decide to end the relationship.
Also Manumaru (the guy who hit on Fenneko) is voiced by Sonic the Hedgehog's current VA in the dub and i revel in that.
The boss is voiced by the same VA who did Roadhog from Overwatch in the dub too.
Haida's voice actor is well known as Numbah 1 from Kids Next door.
Fever Pitch holy CRAP thats some range, there!
It’s about time dude. Glad to see people finally giving this series. Look.
To be fair; Resasuke was pushed into the relationship by his coworker. He wasn't ignoring her out of malice. He spaced out so much that it's his office nickname.
Japanese Bojack Horseman
Your Mom yeah actually just waaaaay happier
this doesnt make me want to blow my brains out like bojack does
Yeah, I was going to say way less depressing to watch.
True
Meh, not really.
depressed japanese office ladies is a drug
you need to control yourself
He should really read some feminist literature and watch Mad Max Fury Road a few times
I think my favorite character in this show is Ton. He's such a fascinating character to watch. Because on the surface he's a lazy, abusive boss drunk with power, but that's all an act. He says in Season 1 that it's because its how his bosses treated him so he feels compelled to pass it on that way, but I think that's a lie. I think he plays the hardass to both push his employees to be better and to sort of give them a common enemy to talk smack about behind his back. And the reason I believe this is because every single time when push comes to shove, he shows that he's willing to go to bat for his employees. ESPECIALLY for Retsuko. Like, that Calendar bit is all for show. He has no intention of firing Retsuko ever (unless he thinks it's for her own good). And when the busy season hits, he isn't sitting behind his desk angrily barking orders. He gets down in the trenches and more than pulls his weight in the office.
*Yells in Death Metal*
Bilboquetsa Nice profile pic -Best- "Worst" boy best loser Kumagawa.