Why CYMA AKs Refuse To Die
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- In today's video, Eric and Lane discuss their experiences with CYMA's AK models and why the line has stood the test of time.
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I bought my akms when I was dating my wife, I am married for 14 years, it still runs, I upgraded a few parts but the only thing that broke was a gear and it was this year, it is my backup gun and got lend to many new players, I have kept it original it just keeps working
I don't remember the year the CM028 released, but I still have mine from 17 years ago with the old school millions of screws assembly.
Cm028s is my first airsoft, the year is 2007
The Cyma 028 and the A&K S-System were practically the guns that started the "clone wars." Good times way back in '06.
Started in 2001 and I remember when CYMA released the first tm AK clone. I don’t remember the model number but it was definitely around 2005-2008 time frame
This is true, I started airsoft with a CYMA AK-74 and lasted me 5 years until the trigger contact died out. Replaced it with the Jefftron Leviathan V3 and it keeps on going to this day. 🔥🔥🔥
What battery did you use? Lipo 11.1v?
I had a CM028 shortly after they came out, 2007 sounds about right. I remember the LPEG/MPEG/AEG distinction on Airsoft Retreat
Forum.
The CM028 was a really solid option, and upset the market a bit initially. I had the CM028 along with their Krink, an ICS 74M, and a Tokyo Marui underfolder, which represented most of the brands available at the time.
They age well, the paint finish scrapes off the pallet wood furniture dings up and before long your gun looks better than when you got it new.
Ah the CM028, that’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time!
Been playing since the mid - late 00s in the UK!
Back when if you were slinging .25g you were elite 😂
The only parts of a Cyma that I wish they'd change is the non-QCS gearbox and the slider hopup. The rest is just bulletproof.
Tonnes of good aftermarket parts to turn a cyma into an absolute beast. Begadis hop up unit is absolutely phenomenal.
i have a CM 040c and it's my ol' reliable, yeah has one of those fancy tube rail handguard set, but every single factory component from the gearbox (besides a mosfet) is there and is one of the best replicas i own (i own a stock krytac and gives it a run for it's money)
The first MSW I went to was Volgograd last October and I brought a sport series 105. The Friday rained and got chilly and the gun still shot. Saturday night got colder and after I woke up my gun was covered in dew and C O L D. Gun and battery still went strong into the final assault. Gonna be hard for someone to talk me into an LCT after that
Cyma rules I have had mine 5 years with no issues and the ak hop up will reach out and touch em!! I out distance most people I go up against!! Thanks for sharing.
My CM035A is almost 12 years old, and still going with nothing done to it. A little loose/wobbly is places, but still holds.
Cyma make simple, affordable, basic AEGs that just work. Plus they make almost every AK variant you thin of. And they've lately become such a big player the they OEM for brands like Cybergun, Lancer Tactical, Evolution Airsoft, Specna Arms and many more. I own a CM40C (AK74 M) and couldn't be happier with it.
My second aeg that I bought was the cyma contractor Ak (first was a colt m4 from Dicks sports). It is great, all I have done to it was replace the inner barrel and bucking. I might have changed the spring but Im not sure. Now I run an Mtw or my eps hk416
Alongside the JG G36 series, heroic workhorses.
Same version gearbox, no?
@@ventroid4473Exactly right. V3 Gearbox. Trigger can be a bit annoying to fit, otherwise arguably easier to work on than the more common V2 setups.
I was there before the clone wars of the late 2000’s. Bought a Classic Army M4 in 06 when they were “pre upgraded” to 320 FPS
I bought my Cyma .028 when i was still in highschool (2007). The box that come with the gun do not even have CYMA branding. Although it is no longer working, i still have it in my collection.
got my cyma for 8+ years and still working. keepin is at backup gun with real izhmash plum handguard. now i have it replaced with E L74N and arcturus ak-12 and i must say arcturus is pretty high tier
Ham Sandwich in an AK hahahaha (CarniK Con Flashbacks)
Big CYMA AK Fan first good Airsoft Gun I had it lasted so long it still works the externals failed on it before the gear box and motor did 😂 and I play almost every weekend
I want to say the 028 came out around 07. I started playing in 2010 and got one used for a loaner. Thing was a few years old and beat to shit, but it fired every time.
My first ak was the CYMA CM.028 with the fold under stock. I put that thing through so much abuse over 7 year span. Rain, snow, mud, landed on a few downed trees, smacked down on concrete more times than I can remember before the stock motor gave out.
I swear by Cyma AKs, I had the cyma 522 £90 ak when I bought it and it was amazing out the box and still working several years later
You are on point on the 2008 era AK!
Never was an airsoft guy. Always kinda associated it with little kids playing with toy guns. Two years ago a friend invited me to an airsoft game and I went with him. Was fun, he borrowed me a gun, an M4 which had trouble feeding. So for the next game I bought an E&L AK-74 and and I'm quite happy. If Cymas are already so good then I guess this E&L will last me forever.
"Psy-mah" I've always pronounced it "see-ma"
I appreciate CYMA releasing variations of the same CM.040 model, they’re providing a great mod platform in various configurations, with valid quality at a good price. What’s not to like?
Ordered the CM.040I from my local store after watching your vid, I just got into the hobby, having my own sure beats using a rental that looks like it survived nuclear fallout.
Thanks for the insights ;)
This is a perfect video, ive been considering getting a cyma for a week now and this is great, thanks guys
I've never had an airsoft AK before, but I got the itch now!!
Great videos
The CM.028 came out in 2006, shortly after they had released the CM.027J their clone of the TM MP5J which is basically 'the' gun that kicked off the whole Chinese made (proper) AEG thing.
The very first CM.028's had proprietary (simplified) hop units (possibly because CYMA couldn't make the more complex cuts for a TM spec hop at that point) and plastic high cap mags,
I had one of these guns and it came from the factory missing its barrel retaining tab, meaning you could with minimal effort pull the gun in half ....they really have come on light years since those days
at that time the CM.028's were exactly half the cost of the TM AK47's they were clones of (at least where I was),
owe a lot to that gun, could never have afforded to get into airsoft back then if it wasn't for the 028.
Well I've had one Cyma AK die on me, a pretty horrid death too unfortunately
A CM047D
BUT
It lasted well over five years with hard use and minimal to no maintenance. When I first got it, I had some small upgrades added. So honestly it refused to die until the bitter end where it caved suddenly. Unfortunately attempts to fix the problem and even replace the gearbox met complications with the tech I gave it to, so I just bought a new Cyma CM040D and moved the accessories over...
Still have it. Used it for a good two years completely stock with no internal upgrades on the gearbox (swapped out the barrel and rubber). Last month got a friend who doubled as a tech to do some work on it and I'm a happy lad. That's not to mention a CM045C I sold to a friend, which still works after 6 years of hard use. Sadly they're more expensive in the UK now due to import issues, but I've found that Specna Arms current AK lineup are holding a candle to those who miss affordable Cyma AKs
I remember CYMA airsoft like 2006-2008? and this was in some Chinese owned discount store in Santa Ana. Evike reviews for the CM.028 go back to 2008. CZcams review go back that far as well. On a similar vein, I have an old Gen 2 E&L which I bought new in 2023, but I knew it had been sitting in the warehouse at AirsoftGI for a long time since the spring settled to 355fps (because I wanted to get it when it was still in print back in 2018). It still works and I thoroughly enjoy how simple it is.
That being said...want to use my Arcturus AK06?
The last AK I bought an LCT. Love the AK12 but I wish I bought a Cyma lol
My cm046 (akm) shoot 440 fps with .2 bb without any part change, i only shim stock gear & fix compression on cylinder and hop up chamber
Arcturus is a branch of the company that does E&L
MOS manufacturing
Don't know when the CM028 released, but I was running a Cyma M14 Socom in '07. Cost me $110 and ran for many years.
Have a cyma M14 bought in 2007 and it's still kicking
A CM028 was my first back in 2011 😂. Without any mosfet and no gear jams at all
in unfortunately got a lemon. i didn't hive mine long before the cutoff broke and when I got it with any other bucking besides stock, the air seal was horrendous. I think they sent me a boneyard by accident. the bule cyma ak's had been out or a couple of years at this point and mine wasn't the blue. it also had the ferrite motor. I had that fixed. when the cutoff broke i had an aster fitted and now if it ever gets the slightest bit of dirt, it starts fucking up. its either the trigger or selector that's acting up selector that goes. im probably going to hpa it
My CYMA 74u just died after 10 years of using it with a 11.1 wihout a mosfet :(
Wish yall would’ve talked about the differences in construction based on model numbers. The vfc clone cyma is vastly different than the older TM based AKs. Also lately cyma has been putting better motors and field legal springs in their aks. My most recent cm.048 didn’t need any changes out of the box. It was good to go.
Some of the models you can find today are TM Classic Clones like the CM047D, good for what they are but they do have some nitpicks and weaknesses on the external receiver. Still decent guns if you can find them for super affordable prices
As far as I know if you were to buy a cyma today you are getting a high torque motor. Unfortunately, I happen to get an old one that I think was part of a boneyard because it didn't take long for the cut off over to break which prompted me to put a gate aster in it which is the biggest mistake I've ever made. If it getsdirty either the trigger or selector doesn't work the way it should. Austin, with my shop installed the aster the motor died which they replaced with an e&l m170. Same specs as the asg infinity 22k that I was going to get later. For MOSFETs I only care about 11.1 and low battery. The rest is if I have it why not use it. You could give me a cyma fresh ootb And I will run it all day. My aks74u has never stripped a gear or piston and that's just a plastic piston and I had evike downgrade the spring for cqb. If ha had hotter a newer one I would say it's 100% a tank. I'm confident that you can bury one in the dirt for years on end and dig it up and it will still work just like its real steel counterpart.
sounds about right. started playing in 99.
I remember one forest winter game where we took 5 replicas. Conditions were extremally bad, It was -8C and literally blizzard. Four of our replicas stop working because of low temperature. Guess which one still worked? Cyma. Don't say Cyma is not good for CQB. I play over 100 games in CQB and I love to play with Cyma (I'm talking about normal CQB not speedsoft). I also have 2 LCT guns (AK74 and AKSU). LCT is overpriced but external quality is 10/10. When you hold Cyma you think "It's nice" but when you hold LCT you think "WOW It's amazing!". When you play with Cyma nobody notice but when you play with LCT many ppl will ask: "Can I hold it?" ;)
I'm old as feck, I started airsoft in 1999 and I vaguely remember the years when the cheap chinese clones came out. As much as I love my Marui, the rise of cheap metal chinese aeg's made a massive difference in the hobby. Finally, aeg's that didn't creak or flex when used.
Mines 7 years and counting still trucks
My TM AK Beta Spets survived for 17 years before retiring... I do remember when CYMA was the terrible brand you stayed away from, but it's wild seeing how things have changed today!
Before buying a Cyma AK , consider the E&L Essential series. The externals are incomparable for slightly more upfront . E&L's are built really solidly and can take all standard V3 upgrades if need be.
I own an E&L and I confirm they are build solid! Love my AKMS!!!
@@bushs6882 I have a Ak105 - "Alpha Clone" and am much happier with the purchase. Owned Cymas in the past and they cant compete.
whats the best cyma model to get for a more intro gun? should i get a real wood/full metal one or would the polymer/fake wood ones be alright?
what spring is needed and where do you buy them ?
Try the Specna Arms edge 2.0 ak-105. It’s great and my best out the box AK
Yes, because it's made by... yes, Cyma.
Arctic Saratov....those who know KNOW! Coldest game I've ever been to in over 15 years of playing!
I think it was 2009/2010 for the CYMA.
My newest CYMA AK is 5 years old, so I hope that says something.
I had a cyma and a lct ak74u but i prefer my lct tbh
Been on and off airsofting since 2005 and I remember the first wave of Chinese clones. How Cyma have managed to effectively outlive BIG brands and to have been considered actually good the whole damn time is incredible. Where I live averages 88% humidity btw so a lot of "fancier" brands electronics corrode like a motherfucker and even rust and mildew is a serious issue but aul Cyma just does Cyma things; I've an OG LCT AK conversion kit from prior to them releasing complete AEGs and that needs regular external maintenance to prevent the aforementioned rust or mildew.
Dboys ak74 for the win! Beautiful vfc clone
a cyma replica of nearly any variety with some BASIC upgrades (hop rubber, barrel, perhaps a better motor down the road) will outperform pretty much any airsoft player. if you cant do well with that then you wont do better with anything more expensive.
Cyma has cheap metal though. E&L has better steel (real steel-like) externals (but also needs new hop, motor)
E&L is held back by the fact that their sidefolders have proprietary pins that make them very limited in aftermarket stock compatibility, their receivers are also built to the Type 56 standard meaning that you need to do more filing/fitment when mounting new handguards.
It's a workhorse!
LCT internals arent as good as CYMA. The only aegs i have that broke from normal use were LCTs. The CYMAs have a MUCH more durable gearbox.
As someone who has been a huge cyma fan boy for about 14 years. I've just got a taste for lcts. Lct externally are miles ahead. Internals don't matter as you can upgrade them. It's hard to upgrade externals
CYMA is the most reliable, LCT really disappointed me. my CYMAs and My E&L are reliable.
I remember when the cm.00028 AK beta aeg that u speak of, came out and changed the world n CYMAs reputation. Right after the UTG MP5 did.
CYMA AK are obsolete, E&L is much better choice in the same price range, at least in EU.
Come to the dark side, we have AK's and bananas.😃
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thnx GOD u dont have that gay in ur videos anymore ...